Tuesday, January 4, 2000
© 2000 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Gail (William).
Elias arrives at 1:26 PM. (Arrival time is 28 seconds)
ELIAS: Good morning!
GAIL: Good morning, Elias. (Elias chuckles) Well, as I’m
sure you heard, I want this conversation to be different than normal.
I mean, I’m not sure why, other than I would like it to be more on a friend-to-friend
term as opposed to a teacher/student term. I do have some questions
that I’m curious about, but for the most part, I would like it to different.
ELIAS: Very well.
GAIL: Well, let’s see. This is kind of strange for me! (Laughing)
I mean, I have feelings that it used to be like this, where it was much
more, for me, relaxed, and I would like it to be that way. Do you
understand what I’m talking about?
ELIAS: Quite, and we may engage in conversation, if you are so
choosing. What shall we converse of this day? Which direction
would you be pleased with in your incorporation this day?
GAIL: Well, let’s see. Maybe I’d like to talk about something
that I enjoy, which is photography.
I definitely like that, and I’ve been doing a little bit of it. It
seems to ... I guess I allow it to take me into directions that make me
happy, taking pictures of nature and people and animals and that kind of
thing. I’m interested in doing a little bit more of that.
ELIAS: And allowing your expression of creativity and your incorporation
of interconnectedness, for this allows you an avenue in objective terms
of exhibiting in physical terms a lessening of separation, for it allows
you the opportunity to be communing with or engaging empathically with
your subject matter without actually assuming the empathic experience,
which moves you in a different direction than is familiar to you in this
empathic sense, is it not?
GAIL: I can say yes, and I’m not quite sure. I mean, I’m
not quite sure what you’re saying, ‘cause I don’t know that I’ve felt that
yet. I mean, I feel that I like the spontaneity, like taking the
pictures of the little girl on the beach with her dog. I really like
that.
ELIAS: What I am expressing to you, William, is, this is a new
avenue of exploration, not merely with your creativity, but also in your
expression of your empathic sense, which you exercise quite easily, but
your empathic sense is not always felt in the manner that you are accustomed
to. This that you are familiar with in engaging your empathic sense
creates a situation in which you are moving yourself into mergence of such
an extent that you are assuming the experience of any other element within
your reality — be it another individual or a creature or even a plant —
as though it were your own experience. This [other] type of activity
allows you the opportunity to be incorporating elements of your creative
expressions, and allows you to continue to be exercising your empathic
sense without assuming the experience of the other individual — or the
subject matter, so to speak — as though it were your own experience.
Therefore, you allow yourself to expand your incorporation of your empathic
sense, bringing to your creativity a new element of dimension, so to speak.
GAIL: Hmm. Well, I’ll keep going in that avenue and trying
to ... I’m trying to feel the difference. I do know what you mean,
like if I can connect with someone and I do feel what they’re feeling and
I do take it on as my own, it’s hard for me to separate the feeling.
ELIAS: I am not expressing to you that you be examining this action
that you have incorporated, for if you are moving your attention in this
type of direction, you are also incorporating altering the experience,
and the experience presently is offering you pleasure and a free flow of
your creativity. Therefore, I am suggesting to you not to be clouding
this by examination of what you are engaging within your empathic sense,
but merely allow yourself the recognition that you are expanding your avenues
of exploration in your abilities, and you may be acknowledging of yourself
in your incorporation of this action.
GAIL: Well, I do want to just simply have fun. I am so tired
of (sighing) thinking about things and dissecting them and analyzing them.
This definitely gives me the ... I guess I give myself the permission to
have fun with it, and not be so structured with it.
ELIAS: Ha ha! And be playful!
GAIL: Yeah, that’s true. That’s something I would like to
do.
ELIAS: This offers you an opportunity to incorporate this action,
and allows you a time framework to be relaxing and allowing a free flow
of energy. It also offers you the opportunity to view how often and
how intensely you do incorporate the analyzation of all of your reality,
which — I shall be in agreement with you — may be quite exhausting within
physical focus! Ha ha ha ha!
GAIL: Boy, I’ll say! (Laughing) Let’s see ... well, I do
want to say, because this pops into my head, I get like little flashes
of when I was young, and for some reason ... I don’t know if I’m like correlating
this to a movie or not, but you would just kinda like appear and come out
of a ... this sounds silly, but out of like a corn field, and come over
and sit, and we would just sit and talk like this. Is this ... am
I recollecting this right, or am I just like creating fantasy?
ELIAS: This is not fantasy. This is a recalling in imagery
— imagery that you have assigned to an action which has occurred within
consciousness and within energy — and your translation of this is to be
assigning a physical scenario of imagery. But it is not wrong....
GAIL: Yeah, I understand that. I understand that it’s not
wrong. It’s just that I wasn’t sure if it was like dream imagery,
so I could understand what I was connecting with.
ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes, but also be remembering that
your dream imagery is quite real. It is not contrived, so to speak.
What you incorporate as imagination is imagery that you create, in reality,
of reality. It is merely a translation of different movements of
reality within consciousness. Therefore, it is not incorrect.
It is the imagery that you have assigned to it in your translation.
How goes your interaction within your relationship?
GAIL: Well, I have to say, sometimes it’s kind of this push-pull
thing. Lately I feel like I have another aspect around quite often.
So, it’s like I connect with Danny, and sometimes I don’t want to connect
with him, and I connect with him, and I don’t want to connect with him.
It’s really a strange kind of push-pull thing, but overall I definitely
love that guy! He’s very encouraging and inspiring, and I enjoy being
with him a whole lot, ‘cause it’s like when I am with him, it’s like nothing
else bothers me.
ELIAS: And you are experiencing no conflict?
GAIL: Yeah, none! I mean, it’s just really, really strange
to not have ... I mean, in the time, in our linear time, that we’ve been
together, like a year-and-a-half, we’ve not had like one argument or disagreement
or anything, and I really just enjoy that immensely, and he seems to understand
me, and we can connect on all kinds of levels.
ELIAS: And how are you incorporating your individual exploration?
GAIL: My individual exploration? What do you mean?
ELIAS: In relation to self, in conjunction with this wave in consciousness.
GAIL: Well, I’m sure as you know, I have another yeast infection,
and I’m not quite sure ... I mean, I know that it’s fear, but I wasn’t
sure if it was connected to my parents coming out here soon, or if was
connected to the little situation I created over the weekend with Danny’s
brother and his father ... I’m not sure, but it’s definitely bubbling to
the surface.
ELIAS: (Chuckling) And what is your assessment of this situation
in light of our discussion previously?
GAIL: Well, I was reading a transcript, the last one of our session
together, and we talked about openness and vulnerability, and I think I
put myself into a situation where I felt vulnerable and too open, so I
realized like a day later that I had shut myself down. It took me
a little while to realize what I did, but yeah, I think it was the fear
of somebody not accepting me, and knowing that he’s a mirror to my own
feelings about myself. But I’m not quite sure what I don’t accept
about myself.
ELIAS: I shall express to you that there are many areas in which
you may be viewing elements of a lack of acceptance, in like manner to
all other individuals within your planet. But I shall also express
to you that in this particular creation that you incorporate, we have spoken
of your response to vulnerability and your openness, and your responses
within the action of this wave in consciousness.
And in this, let me also express to you that it is not merely the incorporation
of relationship with this one individual that creates within your beliefs
a response in energy and reaction, so to speak, but also the idea of relationships
with other individuals.
And in this, there are other aspects of the belief systems that are
incorporated, and this moves you many times in a direction of creating
physical affectingness within yourself in a type of blocking in some areas,
but in some areas, it is also a type of punishment and a type of protection
simultaneously.
GAIL: I’m punishing myself and leaving myself open at the same
time?
ELIAS: You are incorporating many different actions simultaneously.
There are underlying elements that are occurring in conjunction with beliefs.
I may express to you that the one element that is common within all of
the incorporations of aspects of beliefs is the assessment of self and
the acceptance of self in that assessment, but in this, there are other
aspects of relationships and of sexuality that are being incorporated all
simultaneously.
In the belief system of relationships, you incorporate aspects of loyalty
and aspects of betrayal, in which you hold strongly to your identification
and your definitions of these terms. Therefore, in the direction
of loyalty, you incorporate a strong expression to be enacting that action
that you define as loyalty, and you also incorporate a strength in energy
to be repelling of other types of expressions such as what you identify
as betrayal. Betrayal may not necessarily, in your alignment with
beliefs, be an actual physical expression. Betrayal within your definition
may also incorporate thoughts and emotional expressions.
GAIL: Yeah, that’s probably true. That’s that whole push-pull
thing I’ve got going inside of me, huh?
ELIAS: Yes.
GAIL: Is that another aspect, or is that just myself within this
belief system doing this push-pull thing?
ELIAS: This is not another aspect of you ... although we may address
to that subject matter also, if you are so choosing. But in this
particular expression, this is not another aspect of you.
This is your allowance of yourself to be viewing certain responses that
you hold in the influence of beliefs that you align with, and this offers
you the opportunity to view your individual behaviors and creations and
responses, and how these aspects of beliefs are affecting of what you are
creating within your reality.
Therefore, as you allow yourself the creations of certain physical affectingnesses,
you also gain your attention, and as you turn your attention to what you
have created, you allow yourself to be moving into the direction of allowing
yourself to identify and recognize the aspects of beliefs that are influencing
of these creations, and the initial movement in that direction is what
you are experiencing in what you identify as the push-pull, for you are
beginning to be recognizing that there are different aspects of belief
systems which are at play simultaneously, and they may not be in harmony
with each other. You may have very different aspects of beliefs incorporated
simultaneously, and this creates a type of tug, so to speak.
GAIL: Yeah. I know I’ve thought about this. I know
that I believe that if you’re in a relationship, you’re committed to that
person, so you’re not with anyone else, but we’ve talked about the fact
that I’m not in prison and he is, and that I will consider being with someone
else. But it’s like those belief systems are coming into play, and
there is a definite push-pull to be loyal. But there’s another —
I don’t know what you call it — side of me that says it’s okay to be with
someone else, and it’s just an expression of emotion.
ELIAS: Quite, and these are the differences in beliefs that you
are beginning a recognition of, and this creates this push-pull.
GAIL: Is that why I’ve created this infection?
ELIAS: Yes, for you are creating the physical effect in energy
as you are creating this struggle, so to speak, between different aspects
of beliefs.
One element of you incorporates a desire to be accepting of self and
incorporating the recognition objectively that your choices are choices,
and that they do not in themselves attach to right or wrong.
Therefore, within your thought process, you have incorporated this philosophy,
so to speak, but within other expressions of beliefs that you do continue
to align with, there is quite a different expression which is also incorporated
and expressed. Therefore, you are incorporating both elements simultaneously,
and this is creating a conflict and a struggle.
GAIL: So, is it more that I have to choose one over the other?
ELIAS: No. This is the action which you move into to allow
yourself the incorporation of acceptance. It is not a situation of
choosing black or white, either/or. It is also not a creation of
eliminating one belief or changing one belief....
GAIL: It’s accepting that I carry both beliefs?
ELIAS: It is the recognition that they ARE beliefs, and within
themselves, they are neutral. It is the attachment of duplicity which
alters that neutrality and attaches judgments of good and bad.
And in this, the acceptance is not the elimination of either/or, but
the recognition that you DO incorporate both, that it IS acceptable for
you to be incorporating many different beliefs and different aspects of
beliefs — it IS acceptable for you to be incorporating emotional qualities
in ANY expression, it IS acceptable for you to be incorporating thought
processes in ANY manner — and that you need not be attaching the judgments
to them.
This is also an opportunity for you to be examining your definitions
of your terms, your incorporation of your absolutes, for the conflict arises
in the either/or expression, and the either/or expression arises as you
hold absolutes in definitions.
Your definition of loyalty is an absolute. Your definition of
betrayal is an absolute. These become absolutes in opposition to
that which you view as an acceptance of self.
GAIL: I’m not sure I understand. I mean, I’m understanding
that I hold both ideas, and the idea of both of those is very duplicitous,
and if I allow myself to acknowledge that I view both of them, both perspectives....?
ELIAS: Let me express in this manner to you, William. Your
definition of acceptance of self also moves in the direction of an absolute,
for the definition of the acceptance of self, as it is camouflaged — not
in its actuality, but as it is camouflaged in conjunction with duplicity
— is that as you incorporate a complete acceptance of self, you move in
a direction of expressing to self that the incorporation of other individuals’
perceptions matters not.
GAIL: Hmm. So I’m concerned ... well, I am concerned about
Danny’s response to what I choose to do.
ELIAS: Now....
GAIL: Is that what you’re saying?
ELIAS: I am viewing the direction that you are moving into with
what I have just offered to you, and this is slightly off the mark.
GAIL: Okay! (Laughing)
ELIAS: I am not expressing to you that you are concerning yourself
with the perception of another individual ... although you are.
GAIL: Yeah, I am.
ELIAS: But this is not the point.
GAIL: Okay.
ELIAS: The point is that the definition of your idea of self-acceptance
is that if you are incorporating self-acceptance, the perceptions of other
individuals shall matter not to you. This is an incorrect definition.
GAIL: Okay. Good! (Laughing)
ELIAS: My expression to you all is not that acceptance of self
shall eliminate your caring, in your physical terms, of the perception
of other individuals, or that you shall no longer hold an opinion or a
thought or an assessment or an emotional quality in conjunction with the
perception of other individuals, but that you shall not place judgment
upon the perception of other individuals, nor shall you place judgment
upon yourself in your assessment of self or in your choices.
Therefore, I am not expressing to you that you shall become unresponsive
or incorporate a lack of emotion or thought or opinion in the incorporation
of acceptance of self or of your beliefs.
You are not eliminating self and you are not eliminating beliefs.
You are moving in the direction of acceptance, and the acceptance is merely
the lack of judgment. It is not the lack of emotion. It is
not the lack of thought. It is not the lack of philosophy or opinion
or choices. It is the lack of judgment in the midst of the incorporation
of all of those elements of your reality.
GAIL: Hmm. Well, no wonder that stood out so strong in Danny’s
and my conversation last night, when he used that word judgment.
I think I definitely judge myself harder than anybody does.
ELIAS: Ah, and many individuals may rival you in this particular
expression! You are all quite accomplished at incorporating extreme
judgment in the direction of self.
GAIL: Yeah....
ELIAS: Let me also be reminding you, William, any expression that
you may be creating in judgment of any situation or any other individual
that you perceive to be outside of you is expressed in fraction of what
you shall express within self, for any expression of judgment outwardly
is a mirror of the judgment that you incorporate inwardly.
GAIL: Hmm. Wow.
ELIAS: Without the judgment that is incorporated inwardly, there
is no expression of judgment outwardly.
GAIL: Hmm. Well, that’s definitely gonna give me a lot to
think about, and what’s really interesting is, when I’m listening to you,
I’m trying to take in all this information, but I like hear this other
little voice in the background like talking to me, and it’s just very distracting,
and I hope I soak in all of this stuff that you’re telling me at some point
in time, ‘cause I feel sometimes overloaded with information.
ELIAS: I am quite recognizing of what you are expressing, and
in this, I am also understanding of what you are expressing presently.
You shall assimilate this information, and there is no expectation that
you be assimilating the information now.
GAIL: Well, maybe not from you, but definitely from myself. (Elias
chuckles) I think I’ve always kind of held that.
ELIAS: But in this, recognize your distraction, for this distraction
is not what you may identify as a negative. It is beneficial, and
it is yourself incorporating a lightness in the face, so to speak, of this
information. It is a recognition of yourself, in not incorporating
the familiar of seriousness and the tremendous expectation that you place
upon self to be immediately assimilating objectively all that you input
within self.
GAIL: I’ve always done that.
ELIAS: Ah, but how have you approached this day in this conversation?
In your expression to myself that you wish to be incorporating a difference
and that you wish to be not engaging in this heaviness.
GAIL: No, I don’t.
ELIAS: Therefore, I am acknowledging to you that you are incorporating
quite well, for you are allowing yourself to be listening, participating
in the conversation, and assimilating some of the information which is
offered, and storing some of the information, so to speak. (Chuckling)
GAIL: Yeah, I definitely realize that I’ve done that all my life,
just constantly put pressure on myself to know more and understand more
faster than I seem to be able to take it in.
ELIAS: Listen to yourself in this, for this also is an example
of how you may be turning your attention and allowing yourself more of
an incorporation of acceptance, for your movement into the want objectively
of incorporating information immediately or faster is the expression of
your assessment of better.
GAIL: Yeah, I know. I know that one!
ELIAS: In this, you are already best.
GAIL: Is that the new puppy? (Laughing, as the dog is barking
loudly and the bird is squawking, and Elias laughs) It sounds beautiful.
ELIAS: Allow yourself to be offering yourself permission to not
be pushing so very intensely!
GAIL: Yeah, I know. Gee, I feel it in my body! (Laughing)
ELIAS: Allow yourself to be relaxing and continuing to be incorporating
fun!
GAIL: Yeah, it’s not something I’m used to. I’m gonna work
on it.
ELIAS: Ha ha! Ah, but this is the action of this shift in
consciousness, to be moving into expressions of unfamiliarity!
GAIL: Oh yeah! Boy! Leaps and bounds! (Laughing)
Well, I noticed that our New Year went off just fine. It was funny!
ELIAS: As was predicted. (Grinning)
GAIL: Yes. It was very interesting to feel the intensity
when I went into the market though, and to walk out and recognize that
feeling of fear. I mean, it’s something I’m familiar with, but it
took me a while to like pick up on it. It’s like, wow!
ELIAS: It is quite interesting and it is quite fascinating to
be watching the movement of energy in its intensity that you may collectively
be creating in physical focus, and how intensely this may be affecting
of you objectively, even within the time frameworks that you are objectively
opposing the movement of the energy.
GAIL: Hmm. Is there anything that you would like to say
to Danny?
ELIAS: You may offer my encouragement to this individual, and
you may also offer my greetings.
GAIL: He’s a pretty wonderful guy.
ELIAS: I am not moving into a direction of intrusiveness, and
therefore you may merely incorporate my greetings.
GAIL: Okay, I will. (Elias chuckles) Well, I do have one
question for my wee one that’s laying over here, and I think it’s okay
that I ask this. I was very curious about what’s going on with her
back, since it’s been hurting her for so long. (Pause)
ELIAS: I shall express to you the invitation that Lanyah may be
incorporating this questioning herself, if she is so choosing.
GAIL: So it is the idea of not wanting to know quite yet?
ELIAS: Not listening quite yet.
GAIL: Okay, alright. Well, I’m doing the mom thing and trying
to encourage, but you know, they step when they want to step, huh?
ELIAS: You are correct ...
GAIL: Okay, I got that one loud and clear!
ELIAS: ... as with you all! (Chuckling)
GAIL: Oh yeah! Hmm! (Elias chuckles)
Well, I’ve enjoyed our conversation and your helpfulness in this, and
I just want to tell you that I care about you a lot.
ELIAS: I extend my affection to you, and I also offer to you energy
from myself in a continuation of encouragement.
In this, be recognizing that you are merely struggling with self in
different expressions simultaneously, but you are also offering yourself
tremendous opportunities, and although I hold an awareness that many of
you view this term of “opportunity” to be an annoyance recently, I shall
continue to express to you that in the presentment of opportunities, you
also offer yourselves freedom and you offer yourselves the lack of limitation,
and therefore a movement into widening of awareness. And this, within
your very strong beliefs, may be viewed as positive!
GAIL: Okay! (Laughing)
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!
GAIL: Yeah, that good old term! (Elias chuckles) Well, I’m
sure it’s time for Mary to come back. I’ve been feeling her.
Is that right?
ELIAS: I shall be compliant.
GAIL: Okay.
ELIAS: In this, you may also offer my greetings to Lanyah.
GAIL: Alright, I will.
ELIAS: To you in lovingness this day, au revoir.
GAIL: Thank you. Bye.
Elias departs at 2:19 PM.
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