Thursday, August 30, 2001 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Carmen (Tirza)
Elias arrives at 1:48 PM. (Arrival time is 27 seconds.)
ELIAS: Good afternoon!
CARMEN: Hi, Elias. Okay, I guess I’ll start.
ELIAS: Very well.
CARMEN: First of all, I want to really thank you for the information you gave me last time and also for the many instances of imagery that have shown your support. It has really helped a lot, but I am still creating some turmoil within myself that I’d like to discuss.
ELIAS: Very well.
CARMEN: First of all, I’d like to start with my current mode of employment which, at the present time, I have decided to continue. Now, I definitely do see myself expanding creatively a lot in the future, but I’m trying to get myself to the point where, , I’m watching the street performers but I’m also open to noticing the strangers approaching me with gifts.
My first question does have to do with my current employment. The situation is that the client who has been my major source of currency has created a physical condition that is preventing her from working in the present now that I am choosing at this moment. I do have currency that I could live off of but I really don’t want to do that, so I’m trying hard to use my imagination as well as contacting people in my field to create a steady flow of projects.
The problem is that if I give myself any imagery in dreams or concrete symbols that I’m not creating or going to create what I want, I plummet. Now, right before this session I did get some hopeful feedback in the form of a potential new client, but there are times when I get so discouraged, and with that feeling I then feel like I’m sabotaging myself so I have to snap out of it and become really upbeat.
But would you please tell me whether I am creating strong probabilities of a steady flow of projects, even though sometimes I feel like it’s hopeless?
ELIAS: Yes, you are creating now these probabilities. You are battling within yourself between the familiar and trust. But be remembering, this is the battle between the large dog and the small dog. Listen to the small dog. Remember, the large dog barks loudly but it has no teeth.
CARMEN: Now that’s interesting. When you say no teeth ... now, the big dog is my fears?
ELIAS: Yes, and also the expression of familiarity in automatic responses.
CARMEN: Like my extreme ... like if something quote ’negative’ happens, I immediately think of the most dire consequences - me on the street, a bag-person or something.
ELIAS: Correct, and this is not what you are creating. (Emphatically) Look to what you are creating. Hold your attention, as I have stated to you previously, in the now.
The large dog turns your attention to the future and anticipation and speculation. In this, it barks quite loudly, for it is the expression of what is familiar to you, and it is the embodiment of your fear and your conflict and is the expression of your automatic responses in familiarity.
But the small dog is moving and is active, and as you continue to pay attention in the now to THAT expression, you shall be, in a manner of speaking, feeding the small dog and starving the large dog.
Even though the large dog presents itself and appears ominous, remember, it has no bite. It is merely noisy.
CARMEN: So when I do take a nosedive emotionally, I can just reassure myself. Because, boy, when I’m there, those fears seem like they have huge teeth and that the situation that I fear is very real. But if I just reassure myself that the small dog is active even when I’m just feeling hopeless, then that may ease some of that turmoil.
ELIAS: Correct. The small dog is within the now and reassures you that the noise that the large dog is expressing is merely noise. In actuality, although it may seem that it bears huge teeth, it does not, for the actual bite is not occurring.
CARMEN: Okay; yes. As you said, I’m still battling. Battling is a good term, because I’ll be doing, I’ll be thinking, feeling like the small dog, and then all of a sudden - wham! So I will work on that even more.
ELIAS: Allow yourself, my friend, to pay attention to what you are choosing and doing. And as you turn your attention to what you are DOING, you may divert your attention from the battle.
For the battle that is raging is between your thought processes and your emotional communications; these are the expressions that are in conflict with each other. You express conflict, for your struggle is attempting to choose between one or the other. But simultaneously you are already choosing actions; you are already DOING.
These two aspects of yourself, the emotional communication aspect of yourself and the interpreting/translating/thought aspect of yourself, are battling with respect to what you are doing, for they are assessing differently.
CARMEN: So is my thought process the little dog and my emotions the big dog?
ELIAS: No. Your thought process aligns with the big dog. This is a large source of the driving force of the circle that you create.
Let me express to you an explanation of what occurs. You choose a direction, and you choose an action in association with your direction.
Now; as you choose a particular movement or action, your thoughts are attempting to interpret and translate the action. They are translating your communication to yourself through your choice and offering you an interpretation. BUT your thoughts are also quite strongly aligned with your beliefs; therefore, the influence of your beliefs is expressed in strength through your thoughts.
Now; as your thoughts create the translation, which is strongly influenced by beliefs and strongly influenced through the belief system of duplicity, there are judgments that are expressed through thought. Your subjective awareness thusly responds to your translation objectively and creates an emotional communication.
Now; I am expressing this identification to you in a manner which appears to be what you may term as a following process. In actuality, it is not. In actuality, the doing aspect of you, or that which chooses, creates the choice, expresses the action. The thought process simultaneously is translating and interpreting, and simultaneously also the subjective awareness is communicating. They are creating three different functions simultaneously. They are not in actuality following each other consecutively. In this, you are offering to yourself three different actions within the same moment.
Now; what you are paying attention to is the translation which is being expressed through thought and the communication which is being expressed through emotion, but you are not entirely focusing your attention upon the actual communication of the emotion. You are paying attention to the signal, which is the feeling, and you are paying attention to the thoughts.
These are the expressions that are in conflict, for the emotional communication is not entirely being received. The signal is being received - the feeling that you identify as anxiety or fear or what you identify as depression. You are paying attention and recognizing the signal, but you are not entirely receiving the message that is being expressed to you, the communication of that emotion which is identifying to you in the moment precisely what you are creating.
CARMEN: Can I guess what the message might be?
ELIAS: You may.
CARMEN: Because I’ve really tried to be interpreting my emotions, and I do get stuck in just identifying them and sometimes I don’t even do that correctly. But when I feel panic and fear and depression, is the message that I’m not trusting the small dog?
ELIAS: Yes, but let me also express to you that your communication in actuality is more precise than the mere generalization that you are not trusting the small dog.
CARMEN: Can you give me a hint? (Laughs)
ELIAS: Let us view your example. You express to myself that you have offered yourself imagery that one individual that you interact with in relation to your job, as you term it, is not allowing you, in your assessment, to generate finances in the manner that you want. But you also have presented yourself with another individual that may potentially allow you to generate the finances that you want. Correct?
CARMEN: Yes.
ELIAS: Now; first of all, I shall express to you that I am speaking to you, in your terms, in relation to your beliefs, for in actuality another individual does not provide you; you generate this. But for the moment we shall proceed in this manner, as an example.
Now; in this, you present yourself with the imagery of the new individual and the potential.
Now; you have created that. There is an action that you have generated in the doing aspect of you, that aspect of you that generates choices. Therefore, you have already engaged and executed a choice. You have presented yourself with what you view as a potential.
Now; immediately your attention shifts from what you are creating to the thoughts, and the thoughts immediately begin expressing doubt and concern, and you begin thinking in a manner which is translating your imagery, or your choosing, through the filter of your beliefs.
CARMEN: Which have fear connected to them?
ELIAS: Correct.
Now; the thinking aspect of you moves into questioning of your actual ability to be creating and generating what you want. The thinking aspect of you is discounting of yourself and is expressing to you worry, projecting into the future, and expressing questioning ’what if?’
CARMEN: Exactly; yes.
ELIAS: Now; the emotional communication aspect of you is also immediately generated. It is not reacting to the thought process. It is simultaneously offering you a message which precisely identifies what you are expressing and creating within self in the moment.
It is merely that you are paying attention to the thoughts first. You wait to turn your attention to the emotional communication until the signal becomes loud.
Now; what you are expressing to yourself in the emotional communication, in an example such as this, is a precise identification and message that communicates to you, ’In this moment, you are creating automatic response to this belief, and this belief, and this belief. In this moment, you are discounting of yourself. You are not trusting your ability. You are projecting your attention outwardly. You are allowing situations and other individuals to dictate to you what your choices shall be and what your direction shall be. You are projecting your attention futurely.’
The influence of your beliefs in this present moment, which is being translated objectively through your thoughts, is that you do not hold the ability to generate what you want, you do not create all of your reality, and that you are victim to situations and other individuals. But you are merely receiving the signal - fear, anxiety, depression, sadness.
CARMEN: So it really is a matter of feeding that small dog.
ELIAS: Correct.
CARMEN: But it still sounds like that despite the periods of hopelessness, depression and anxiety, I still am creating some probabilities where I am creating what I want.
ELIAS: Yes.
CARMEN: That’s good to know, because I was getting the feeling that I had to be up all the time, and that if I let myself feel the feelings, that I was just back at square one.
ELIAS: No, my friend. You are creating a process in which you are continuing the battle, but in the battle you are also moving into an awareness of what the battle is, and in this, you are not discontinuing your movement. You are not ceasing your creations. You continue to be allowing yourself to generate what you want. You are merely continuing the battle between these two expressions of yourself.
But this also is an opportunity, for this offers you information concerning automatic responses and also how these expressions function within you.
CARMEN: Yes, definitely. I’m just amazed at what I’m creating for myself. (Laughing, and Elias laughs)
I’m almost going to apologize for my next question, because it does concern my relation with this individual who is creating her physical condition, but it also relates to how I relate to other people’s probabilities. Even though I know that it all starts within myself, I still feel like we are in this focus cooperating and relating to other people, so ... I’ll just let you say what you want to say after I ask the question!
She has provided me with a really good reflection of myself - what she creates outwardly, I create inwardly. This has been a challenge to work with, but I really have preferred her projects. They’re easy, she appreciates my work, she’s very creative, and she’s open to creativity, which I feel could also offer me opportunities to be more creative in the work that I do for her.
My question is whether or not she is creating probabilities where she will be moving through her condition in the next few months and returning to work in some capacity that also requires my services in some form.
I don’t want to be imposing my thought processes or directing them toward her, because even though I know that we can never impose anything on anyone else, I just don’t want to create that kind of static around her. But if she’s creating those probabilities, then I won’t turn my thought processes away when they go in the direction of a possible scenario like this.
ELIAS: Let me express to you (slight pause while Elias closes his eyes to access, then continues gently), this is not the point. My friend, listen to what I offer to you. Your choices are your choices. Your choices are what create your reality in directing the expression of your perception.
(Continues gently) Now; in this, what you have inquired of myself is a question concerning the other individual and her choices and her direction, which is not the point. This is what I am expressing to you, of how you create conflict within you by turning your attention to the other individual or to a situation. Your attention is outside of self, and therefore is not directed to you and what YOU want, and therefore you create much more difficulty in actually manifesting what you want.
Now; in this, I shall not say to you that you will not or cannot create what you want if you are not paying attention to yourself in the now, for all of you within your physical dimension DO create what you want continuously, regardless of whether you are paying attention to yourselves or not.
But in not paying attention to yourselves, in not familiarizing yourself with you and how you create your reality and what you want genuinely, and actively offering yourself permission to create what you want regardless of ANY situation or ANY other individual’s choices, although you may continue to create expressions of what you want, you manifest the expressions in thickness. You couch your manifestation of what you want in conflict and in struggle.
Whereas, in turning your attention to self and offering yourself permission to create what you want regardless of the choices of other individuals, you eliminate the thickness, you eliminate MUCH frustration, you offer yourself much more ease in your movement. For you validate yourself, you allow yourself to trust your abilities, and you allow yourself an objective recognition of the actual reality that you in actuality do create all of the movement within your reality and (still speaking gently, but quite distinctly) that no aspect of your reality is dependent upon any other expression, any situation, any circumstance or any other individual.
Now; you are expressing a want. You express a preference in relation to your interaction with this specific individual. You are also expressing a want to be continuing your interaction with this individual, for you allow yourself a freedom in the expression of your creativity in your interaction with this individual. But your question is posed to myself in relation to what SHE is creating - which I am expressing to you, it matters not.
YOU are creating your reality. This individual is a projection of your perception; you have created her and your interaction with her. Your direct interaction with this individual is an ENERGY expression. Your physical objective imagery, the actual physical manifestation of molecules and atoms that configure themselves to create the actual individual, is created through the projection of your perception.
Therefore, if you want to be continuing the interaction and the movement that you prefer with this individual, you may offer yourself permission to create it and you shall.
CARMEN: Oh my gosh. I have read the transcripts that if you’re in the room with someone, there are two of them and two of you, and I just really did not understand that, but I think it’s starting to sink in. It’s just so different from...
ELIAS: If you want this individual’s health to be expressed differently, create that. You are not creating for the other individual.
CARMEN: Gosh, I see it. Oh boy.
ELIAS: You are creating an actual physical flesh individual through your perception. Therefore, you also are creating the individual’s state of being.
CARMEN: Oh my gosh!
ELIAS: And you create that to reflect to yourself.
Now; as you have stated and have allowed an awareness of, this individual quite efficiently reflects to you what you create inwardly. Now allow yourself the genuine view: this individual IS you, for this individual is your creation as a reflection of you.
The manner in which you configure this individual is the reflection. You have created this individual to be expressing an illness. This is a reflection of what you are creating inwardly, a malfunction in your assessment, dis-ease. (Pause)
CARMEN: Oh, did you ask me a question?
ELIAS: No, I am expressing a precise identification of what you are creating outwardly and inwardly: DIS ease. (Elias pronounces this very distinctly here as two words.)
CARMEN: Yes, oh absolutely! I thought, ’She’s melting down physically, and I’m melting down emotionally.’ I made that connection. We were both headed for crashing into the wall, and we did.
ELIAS: Therefore, as you turn your attention to YOU and allow yourself to address to what YOU are creating, you also shall reflect that outwardly.
CARMEN: Yes. This really turns around my thought processes about just how much ... and I know you’ve said over and over and over that we create EVERYTHING. It still needs to sink in.
ELIAS: Quite, for this is quite an unfamiliar concept. You may walk about within your physical reality and you may verbally within your language express to yourself and to other individuals repeatedly that you believe that you create your reality. And I express to you, in actuality, you do not believe this. You do not accept this.
This is a very unfamiliar concept, for what is familiar is that you create the aspects of your reality that you assess to be pleased with, but you do not create those aspects of your reality that you are disappointed with; or you create the aspects of your reality that you are disappointed with, for you do not hold the ability to generate what you want, and in the moments that you assess some action is occurring that is pleasing or that you assess is good, it has been created by another individual for you, for you do not hold the ability to create that within yourself.
Either manner of expression - it matters not - there are movements and manifestations within your reality that you believe you do not create, that are created for you by other individuals or situations or even objects, and you create an expression of dependence upon these outside expressions or manifestations in relation to your own choices.
CARMEN: You know, I thought I’d been studying this stuff since I was 20, and I’m still readjusting my perspective. (Laughs)
ELIAS: Ha ha ha! My dear friend, let me express to you, this is the reason that I speak with all of you. For you are participating in this shift in consciousness, and as I have expressed many times, you are altering all of your reality, redefining all of your reality, and in that action is generated trauma.
CARMEN: Yes. (Laughs) Some of us create a lot more trauma for ourselves than others!
ELIAS: And this is the reason that you have asked for information, and this is the reason that I respond and offer.
CARMEN: I’m very appreciative. I mean, words can’t even express the appreciation. Because I just have felt, lately especially, just a need for something to support me, because, as I said, there have been times when I’ve felt like I just don’t know what to hang onto or how to reassure myself. (Emotionally)
ELIAS: (Gently) And I may express to you, in your terms presently, hang onto yourself. Genuinely, my friend, you shall not betray yourself.
CARMEN: It feels like it, but you’re right. (Emotionally, and a pause)
Okay, well, I have a question about periphery experiences. One is that I read in the transcripts that a ringing in the left ear is from our other focuses and a ringing in the right ear is from our essence. Is that correct?
ELIAS: Not necessarily. Let me express to you, many individuals create this type of action and imagery within their focus. Each individual creates it in relation to their individual movement. It may be expressed in one individual’s imagery and their method of communication to themselves that there is an identification of signal of these two communications in this manner.
I may also express to you, many, many times individuals create this type of manifestation in relation to other focuses within other dimensions.
CARMEN: Oh! Well, I hear a lot of ringing in both ears! Once I happened to be playing my flute and I heard this tone, I believe it was in my right ear. My physical translation of the tone of my essence is B-flat, and I thought ’Gee, I’m just going to test and see if it is.’ It sounded, when I played that note on the flute, close to that, and I was just wondering if I actually was hearing the tone of my essence.
ELIAS: In that moment. This is not to be translated as a continuous action or interpreted that this ringing that you experience is associated with the tone of your essence, for it is not. For you individually create this action specifically as a diversion of your attention.
CARMEN: Oh, really?
ELIAS: You specifically, individually, divert your attention from your communications and your translations by creating this ringing. It is a distraction and a diversion of your attention.
CARMEN: Do I do it to avoid addressing ... is it a diversion that I’m trying to not face the other stuff, or is it kind of a relief to distract myself a little bit?
ELIAS: It is not necessarily an avoidance. It is an action that you engage to be diverting your attention in relation to the battles that you create. For although you have become quite familiar with this diversion, and it is not quite as efficient as it has been previously, it does continue to divert your attention to a point, which moves your attention away from your battling.
CARMEN: Yes. Okay, that’s helpful.
Now I have a question about dreams. I read in the transcripts, but may have misinterpreted, that when we create a dream, dream imagery, it means that we have chosen that probability. I previously had thought that when we dream, we are presenting ourselves with a possible probability or information that with our waking consciousness we can then decide whether or not we want to go in that direction. Could you clarify that?
ELIAS: Dream imagery is another communication. Within dream activity you are actually engaging subjective action and communication.
The imagery of the dream is the objective translation of the action that is occurring subjectively; but as dream imagery is a translation to objective awareness, many times it appears to you to be distorted or confusing. In actuality, as I have stated many times, objective imagery is quite abstract and changeable. Therefore, what you create outwardly in waking state, in objective imagery, is actually more abstract than your translation of dream activity. For what you choose in translation in imagery of dream activity generally closely identifies what movement you are creating subjectively.
Now; be remembering, the subjective movement and the objective movement are always in harmony. Therefore, what you are creating within dream state is also what you are creating objectively in waking state. The dream imagery is the subjective communication to the objective awareness to identify that communication which expresses that the subjective awareness is creating the same as the objective.
CARMEN: So that would be, though, in that moment. This is a question, because I’m thinking that if you have a nightmare or something, and you wake up and you decide ’you know, I really don’t want to go in that direction,’ you can create a different direction then.
ELIAS: Quite! For you are always open to choice, you are always presenting yourself in every moment with choices, and in this, each moment in itself is an outcome and an actualization of some probability, and you may alter your choice in any moment. You may alter your direction within any moment.
CARMEN: Great - oh, that’s wonderful.
It’s exactly an hour, so I guess I really want to again express my appreciation. It really has helped. I can’t imagine ... I identify myself so closely with my objective self. One of the things I feel that I’m learning now is not only to kind of let that go a little but also to accept support from not only my subjective self but also from other energy essences. I really appreciate what you’ve offered me, Elias.
ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend.
CARMEN: So I guess I’ll just say ’until next time!’
ELIAS: Very well. I shall be anticipating our next meeting, and I shall be offering my energy in encouragement to you in the interim time framework. To you this day, in affection as always, au revoir.
CARMEN: Au revoir.
Elias departs at 2:53 PM.
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