Friday, December 1, 2000-1 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael), Melinda (Sena), and Tom (Malhai).
Elias arrives at 11:40 a.m. (Arrival time is 21 seconds)
ELIAS: Good morning!
MELINDA: Hi there, Elias! How are ya?
ELIAS: Ha ha ha! As always, and yourself?
MELINDA: I am doing well. We just had a nice chat with Mary
about some of her latest revelations, so it was a good way to get started.
(Elias chuckles)
TOM: We wish you happy cosmic holidays!
ELIAS: Ah! The cosmic holidays! Ha ha ha ha ha!
TOM: I thought that was an interesting term. So many people
want the cosmic, you know! (They both laugh) Isn’t it all cosmic?
ELIAS: And I may express to you, eventually you shall all offer
yourselves the awareness that — you are correct — all of your reality is
cosmic! Ha ha ha ha!
MELINDA: Every day is a cosmic holiday!
ELIAS: Ha ha!
TOM: So, how shall we start this, Melinda?
MELINDA: Oh, I don’t know. Do you have any ideas?
TOM: Well, I guess we wanted to maybe have you get more specific
with how we support each other in the victim...
MELINDA: ...in our victimhood. Oh, that’s right! Yeah,
I would like to hear more about that. Elias, in your last session
with Tom, you mentioned how he and I kind of reinforce that. Would
you mind sharing a little bit more about that?
ELIAS: Very well.
Let me express to you first of all, this is not an unusual type of situation
or interaction that occurs between individuals. But in allowing yourselves
to move into an examination of the expression of being a victim or associating
that other individuals may be a victim, it may be significant that you
allow yourselves to examine more of the expressions of this subject matter
than you tend to examine in your automatic viewing of certain subject matters.
In this particular subject of victims, there are immediate associations
that you create in viewing the role or the action of being a victim, but
there are many more expressions in which you actually ARE associating yourself
as a victim than you allow yourselves to realize objectively, and as you
are choosing to explore this particular subject and this particular creation
within yourselves, it may be beneficial to allow yourselves to view how
you are reinforcing of this movement with each other, as I have stated
previously.
In this, many times there is created a camouflage of what you objectively
define to yourselves as an expression of compassion or empathy or sympathy,
even at times an expression of understanding.
Now; in this, as I have stated previously, you are incorporating a movement
in this time framework in which you are redefining your terms and also
your reality. As you move into this action of redefining, you allow
yourselves to observe your actions, your creations, your choices, your
manifestations — and those of other individuals — and you allow yourselves
to move into an evaluation of those expressions and redefine your understanding,
your direction, and your actual definitions of these movements within your
reality. You also allow yourselves to view, in an expanded manner,
your own expressions and interactions.
I have stated many times, expressions within your reality or creations
within your reality are not always what they may appear to be surfacely,
and that there are many more layers than merely one in every expression
that you create within your physical reality. You view your reality,
in actuality, in a manner of speaking, as though it were two-dimensional
and flat. You view it in one layer of objective expression or manifestation.
In actuality, as I have stated from the onset of this forum, you are
extremely multidimensional. This is not an expression that may be
viewed, once again, in a manner of flatness, in the association that the
definition of multidimensional holds the meaning of yourselves in this
focus of attention occupying one dimension, and that you also occupy many
other physical and nonphysical dimensions. This in actuality continues
to be a flat observation, for you continue to separate and associate in
segments and things, so to speak.
In this, one of the multidimensional aspects of yourselves is the countless
layers or dimensions of yourself, even within each focus of attention.
Every movement, every manifestation, every manipulation of energy that
you create holds countless layers of actions that are occurring.
Objectively, surfacely, many times you view one layer, and that layer
may be an expression of camouflage which overlays the other layers which
are in play. In that overlaying layer, you create a perception through
the identification of specific definitions — of your expressions, of your
behaviors, of your manifestations, of your interactions.
At times you are allowing yourselves objectively to view more than one
layer, and as you allow yourselves to view more than one layer, you also
allow yourselves to uncover this camouflage expression. But there
are many times in which you merely accept the camouflage as absolute, and
do not view the other layers of activity that are occurring within you.
This particular subject of victim provides an example of how you may
be accepting the expression of the camouflage in one layer, and not allowing
yourselves to view many of the other layers of activity which you are creating,
and therefore not genuinely identifying all that you are participating
within and that you are actually creating.
In interaction with each other, one may express a situation that they
may be participating within or they may be creating individually within
themselves, and this particular expression — hypothetically — may be relayed
objectively in communication to the other individual, and there may be
expressions of the first individual in a communication of conflict that
the individual may be experiencing.
Let us hypothetically express an example that you, Sena, may be communicating
with Malhai, and you may be relaying some experience that you are involving
yourself with, and you may be experiencing some element of conflict.
Now; in this, you may be in that conflict ... or I may express to you,
you ARE in that conflict, for conflict arises from the denial of choice.
Therefore, you are already experiencing some aspect of association within
yourself of victim. In this, you offer a communication to Malhai,
and express your identification of the conflict that you may be experiencing.
Now; in this hypothetical situation, Malhai may be responding to you
in what appears to be an understanding or a sympathetic or an empathetic
and compassionate manner, in the attempt to be objectively expressing what
you define as supportiveness.
Therefore, there is a communication from Malhai to you that is expressing,
“Ah yes, I am understanding. It is understandable that you shall
be experiencing what you are experiencing or that you shall be feeling
what you are feeling.” And in this, there is created a tone — which
translates in actual voice — and a movement of energy that you view, in
a surface layer of expression, as a projection of supportiveness and compassion.
In actuality, the other layers which are in play of that expression
— which are also influencing of inflection and tone and the manner in which
you are projecting your energy — these layers that you are not viewing
in actuality are expressing a reinforcement to you, Sena, in the expression
of, “Yes, you are correct. You are justifying and justifiably creating
the role of victim, and I am understanding of this, for I create this action
also.” Therefore, there is a validation offered in the exchange which
perpetuates the role of the victim.
This is significant to be allowing yourselves the observance of in interaction,
for you create these types of actions often; not merely you yourselves,
but many, many, many individuals within this physical dimension.
This is concerning your definitions of certain expressions, your definitions
of creations, how you define your movement, and how you view much of your
reality in this flatness of surface expressions, and not allowing yourselves
to engage an objective awareness of the other layers of the actions and
the interplay of all of the energy which is being expressed.
Now; I am not discounting of either of you, for you also do create many
situations and interactions in which you are allowing yourselves to view
other layers of your expressions and therefore hold more clearly an objective
awareness of what is being expressed, and in that, offer yourselves more
choices as to how you shall manipulate energy in your interactions and
with yourselves.
But the point is that you ARE widening your awarenesses, and in that
action of widening your awarenesses, you challenge yourselves, and you
— in a manner of speaking — seek to be evaluating and exploring more of
your expressions within yourselves and with each other, for this offers
you more of an expression of clarity objectively in your reality, which
also offers you more of an expression of freedom.
Therefore, in allowing yourselves to view — WITHOUT JUDGMENT — that
you do participate in these types of interactions at times, you also offer
yourselves the opportunity to engage your creativity and more of your choices,
to allow yourselves to turn your perceptions and engage your interactions
differently, and therefore not be perpetuating this expression or this
role of the victim, which limits your choices or eliminates your choices
at times.
Are you understanding?
TOM: Yes.
MELINDA: Um-hmm.
TOM: Are you?
MELINDA: Yes ... are you talking to me or Elias?
ELIAS: Ha ha ha! I am quite understanding! Ha ha ha
ha ha!
TOM: The layers seem to be the tricky part.
ELIAS: Be remembering, you create all of your reality, even in
interaction with other individuals.
(Intently) Therefore, what you present to yourself through the
interactions of other individuals — in every expression — is the opportunity
to view yourself through the reflection which is provided by the other
individual.
For although there may be times, so to speak, in which you may engage
an interaction with another individual, and you may objectively express
to yourself that you have not received the response that you want or that
you expected or that you are looking for, in actuality you are continuously
providing yourself with a reflection of you in every expression of the
other individual, and therefore you allow yourselves the opportunity to
view yourselves continuously.
As I have stated previously, you know all other individuals within your
reality. You hold little difficulty in identifying movements of other
individuals, of assessing situations with other individuals. You
clearly allow yourselves to view and recognize/identify beliefs and perceptions
within other individuals. The one individual that you do not know
is you. The one individual within the entirety of your reality that
you do not see is yourself.
Now; you have created this quite purposefully, in this design of separation
and individuality within your physical dimension.
But you also have extremely efficiently provided yourselves with another
avenue to be viewing yourselves and to be familiar with yourselves, for
you have created this design of your reality in which every expression
of your reality, be it interaction with other individuals, be it the expression
of objects or elements, your weather, your environment, your scenery —
it matters not — movement of your planets — EVERY element of consciousness
expressed physically within your reality is also a reflection of you.
Therefore, regardless of which direction you turn and which direction
you choose to be interactive with, you are continuously providing yourselves
with a reflection of you.
MELINDA: I really need to think on that.
TOM: So that’s why I used to think I had control of the weather.
ELIAS: And you do!
TOM: I know.
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
In this, you also provide yourself, in quite physical terms, the demonstration
of the countless layers of all that is expressed and all that is occurring
simultaneously within your individual reality.
Let me express to you, in quite physical terms, as you interact with
one other individual, do you create a reality which is devoid of any other
expression, any other physical manifestation, any expression of physical
matter or movement of energy besides the placement of yourself and the
other individual in flatness, in complete darkness, and you are merely
two figures interacting with each other, and there is no expression of
any other creation of consciousness within your reality within that moment?
No! You interact with another individual in a physical space arrangement
which encompasses the entirety of your universe, which is all in motion
and being expressed simultaneously, and YOU are occupying center position!
TOM: I am the universe!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
MELINDA: Not a bad place to be!
ELIAS: And in this, as you allow yourselves to view a physical
creation that is continuously occurring — your sun continues to move, your
planet continues to rotate, your solar system continues to be in movement
and in play, your wind continues to blow, your air continues to move, other
individuals continue to create other realities around you — all of this
is in play in the moment that you may be focusing your attention very singularly
upon a conversation with another individual — you are creating this all
simultaneously — all of the movement of your own individual body!
These are all actions that are occurring. They are a physical
display of the countless layers of reality that is all occurring simultaneously,
merely in this one physical dimensional space.
You provide yourselves with this wondrous reflection continuously, that
you may also allow yourselves the awareness that within you, there are
also multi-dimensions of movement and activity that is being created in
each moment — many, many layers — even within the design of your beliefs.
The movement is the overlapping and the interconnectedness of them, and
how one offsets another and how one may trigger many, many other aspects
of beliefs, and they are all in play simultaneously. These are the
layers of each action that you create.
TOM: And there can be different directions of energy moving in
the different layers?
ELIAS: Quite!
TOM: And it appears that way many times.
ELIAS: You are correct. They may be moving in many directions,
and in this, some of those expressions of directions may be conflicting.
MELINDA: Yeah, I think I’ve discovered those! (Elias laughs)
TOM: Hmm. (Inaudible)
MELINDA: What’s that?
TOM: I said, we are amazing beings, I guess.
ELIAS: Are you not! Ha ha ha ha ha!
TOM: It seems to be a conflict everybody has, is getting a handle
on the (inaudible), the multi-layers, the multidimensional aspects of it
or the flat viewing of it.
ELIAS: It is objectively unfamiliar to you, and in this, you are
presenting challenges to yourselves, and at times those challenges are
expressed in difficulty. And in this time framework, as you are aware,
you choose to be addressing to actual specific belief systems and the many
aspects of them. In this particular time framework, as you are aware,
you engage this belief system of duplicity, which as you are also aware
and as I have stated many times, this particular belief system expresses
itself differently than all the other belief systems, for the function
of this belief system is to actually couple itself with every other aspect
of every other belief system.
MELINDA: Sounds like a computer virus.
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Or, in your physical terms and
imagery, it may be likened to the expressions of parasites.
TOM: It attaches to everything, then.
ELIAS: Quite. Its expression in actuality, in a manner of
speaking, is dependent upon its movement in coupling with every other aspect
of every other belief, for within itself, it holds no expression.
TOM: This is why addressing to this one — to tie that into the
last session — will benefit us in accepting all beliefs and all aspects.
ELIAS: Quite, and it already is creating movement in which you
are allowing yourselves, individually and en masse, examples of widening
your awarenesses, and providing you with examples of how you ARE redefining
of your reality.
Even within your mass event that is occurring presently in your individual
country, the movement in the focal points of the mass event ... for they
are not individuals that are creating this mass event, and that you are
participating in some expression of energy with them. You are all
equally creating this mass event which is occurring, but you have designated
in agreement focal points of it — individuals and a communication establishment.
There are three focal points. There are the representatives of
the two individuals, and there is also what you identify as your media,
which is another focal point of this mass event.
And in this, already within those focal points there is being expressed
objectively a recognition of this elusive construct of perception and a
questioning of the expressions of duplicity — an objective, outward questioning
of the validity of the actual right and wrong, and movement into an exploration
of perception rather than the judgment of right and wrong — which is a
significant movement in the direction of acceptance.
TOM: That’s very interesting.
MELINDA: It’s really a big thing.
ELIAS: Quite. It is a very significant movement that you
are creating, and in this, you create once again an example. In this
time framework, you create an objective mass event example, of which your
world is watching!
TOM: And it’s only the beginning!
ELIAS: Quite! Ha ha ha ha ha!
MELINDA: Some people are going to shift whether they are prepared
to or not!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
TOM: Well, I think we’re all prepared, and those that aren’t are
choosing to leave?
ELIAS: You are correct, although I may express to you, in your
definition of preparedness, objectively you may not necessarily hold an
awareness that you are prepared!
You are engaging and participating in a choice. You are choosing
to be moving and creating in this manner in relation to this shift in consciousness.
But as you are individually aware, this is not to say that you offer yourselves
an objective realization or recognition — and therefore, in your terms,
preparedness — for what you may be choosing.
This be the reason that I have expressed, throughout this time framework
of my discussions with you all, that there IS trauma associated with this
shift in consciousness.
TOM: And not many objectively are prepared for trauma.
ELIAS: (Laughing) The preparedness is not an action that
you brace yourselves within in anticipation of a future occurrence or event.
But the actual redefining — of yet another term! — of preparedness may
be expressed in the now awareness objectively of what you allow yourselves
to view within your reality, not in anticipation, but in your now movement,
and allowing yourselves the very action of what we have been discussing
this day — the action of allowing yourselves objectively to view and recognize
the many layers that are in play in each of your movements and each of
your creations, each of your manifestations, and in this, the recognition
of your perceptions, and how your perceptions literally are the instrument
which creates the solidity, the being of your reality.
TOM: And our choices.
ELIAS: Your choices are the movement that expresses the implementation
of what your perception creates. Your beliefs are the influence.
They are the suggestion that is offered to your perception. They
are the influence of your choices.
Your choices are the direction of your perception, and your perception
is the instrument that implements the creation of your reality. It
is that construct which places into being your reality, as instructed by
your choices, as influenced by your beliefs.
TOM: And implemented by perception.
ELIAS: Correct.
TOM: Doesn’t allowing the viewing of these multi-layers, within
our perception of our infinite choices, as I’ve said before, allow more
choices?
ELIAS: Yes, quite.
TOM: So we no longer limit our choices.
ELIAS: And this is the point.
TOM: Right... (inaudible).
ELIAS: And the manner in which you accomplish all of this awareness
objectively is to be turning your attention to self and becoming familiar
with you and all of the aspects of you.
TOM: And we become familiar with exactly how we create (inaudible).
ELIAS: Quite.
In this, once again, you provide yourselves continuously in every moment
[with] objective evidences, reflections. Even within your own expressions,
you create an opportunity for yourselves to view your beliefs, your influences,
your choices in each moment — in your behavior, in your objective outward
expressions.
Any movement that you create, any expression that you create and you
project outwardly — even in the expression of thought, which you consider
to be inward, or emotion — you are creating a movement of energy that projects
into the forum of objective physical reality, and each expression that
you create in this manner provides you with the opportunity to view yourself
and become familiar with yourself.
Now; let me also express to you one final subject that you may allow
yourself to play with (chuckling) in relation to all that we have been
discussing. For in actuality, what we are discussing is the method
in which you may allow yourselves to become more familiar with yourselves
objectively, and therefore offer yourselves more of an expression of freedom.
In this, I shall interject another aspect of all of this movement, and
that is the identification of emotion.
In this, as you are aware, emotion is one of the base elements of your
reality — NOT THOUGHT — emotion and sexuality. Emotion is an expression
of communication to you. It is in actuality quite an efficient expression
of communication to yourself.
Now; I present to you, emotion is not created in reaction. You
define the movement of emotion as occurring in reaction to any particular
expression within your reality. In other terms, you define that some
action occurs first, and you create the expression of emotion in response
to it.
I present to you that it is another aspect of a circle, which may be
otherwise viewed as a type of process of how you express your reality in
the design of the constructs of the base elements of your reality, which
are emotion and sexuality.
The expression of sexuality is that which creates a movement of physical
manifestation. This may be in movement, it may be in interaction,
it may be singularly within yourself, or it may be outwardly with any other
aspect of your reality and other individuals. You create that expression,
and this projects energy outwardly which manifests in some type of physical
exhibition.
You incorporate thought as the interpreter of the base elements of your
reality — sexuality and emotion. Thought is the tool that you engage
to be defining, clarifying, and interpreting these expressions of communication
and manifestation.
In this, emotion is not a reaction. You do not create an event
or an action within your reality and react to it with the emotion of sadness
or react to it with the emotion of happiness. You create movement
and choices yourself. You provide yourself with reflection outwardly,
which is the engagement of the objective awareness.
In this, you create a direction of the objective and subjective harmoniously.
The subjective is moving and directing. The objective is expressing
in like manner and providing you with its exhibition of imagery, which
offers you the expression of reflection.
(Intently) The expression of emotion is not a reaction to all
of this movement, but is another avenue of communication that you offer
to yourself to be allowing yourself the awareness of the other layers of
what you are engaging. Emotion is an efficient expression of communication
that is not reactionary, but is the communication, in part, of the identification
of some elements of subjective movement that are what you view as underlying
or beside the objective expression.
Both are the same expressions. Both are the same movement.
Your subjective incorporates your belief systems in equal manner to your
objective. They are merely expressed in different types of imagery,
and the communication which occurs, that allows you an objective awareness
of all of these movements of layers and subjectivity in awareness, is the
presentment of emotional expression.
MELINDA: So in a sense, the emotions are really just a signpost
if you want to look for other layers. Follow your emotion, and it
will lead you to expanded awareness?
ELIAS: In a manner of speaking. They are another avenue
of communication.
Let me express to you, allow yourselves to incorporate the thought process
of memory within yourselves of any time framework in which you are experiencing
an emotional expression which you objectively are unable — in a manner
of speaking, in your terms — to couple with any event. All of you
experience this at times within your focuses, in which in certain moments
you are actually experiencing some type of emotional expression, and you
objectively view no reason for that emotional expression.
Now; many times in these situations you express confusion, and the reason
you express confusion is that you define emotion as a reaction — you shall
not create an emotional expression if it is not a reaction to some other
expression — and this is not in actuality the function of this expression.
Emotion needs no event to be invoking of it. It is an avenue of communication.
TOM: Would you say that the expression of emotion ... I’ve used
emotion at different times to create different layers of energy, to create
choices objectively. Is that what a person is doing in that?
ELIAS: At times, yes. In actuality, many times, yes.
TOM: So there’s multi-functions, so to speak, in all areas.
ELIAS: You are correct. Many times individuals incorporate
an emotional expression and deny choices in response to that communication,
or attempt to be forcing energy to not be listening to that avenue of communication.
MELINDA: Okay, that sounds like me! (Elias chuckles) I remember
... I mean, for years there was a lot to my emotions that I just didn’t
want to feel, so I went into my head about it, and this puts a whole different
spin on it, I guess, as to what the purpose of emotion is.
ELIAS: And also to what the function of thought is.
You have not created thought in this physical dimension, in the expression
of it and the movement of energy within it, to be overriding the base constructs
of your physical design, but you do attempt to incorporate that action
with this tool of thought, and therefore create obstacles, create confusion,
create conflict within yourselves.
For you are attempting to be incorporating this tool of thought as though
it were a base construct of your reality, and as I have stated previously,
I have not stated to you that the base elements of your reality are sexuality,
emotion, and thought, but that they are sexuality and emotion.
TOM: So we have a major aspect here that says, logic overrides
the heart, so to speak, or emotions, and that creates (inaudible).
ELIAS: Quite, and a lack of acceptance of your natural flow of
energy and your natural expressions.
MELINDA: Isn’t it interesting — something just hit me — how in
a way, emotions and sexuality have taken such a bad rap in our cultural
system.
ELIAS: Quite.
MELINDA: It’s like we spend a lot of time trying to contain them
and deny them and pretend we don’t have them, when we really do.
ELIAS: Quite.
MELINDA: And you’re saying, this is a base element of our reality!
(Laughing)
ELIAS: And view how intertwined they are! (Pause) Therefore,
you hold much information to be contemplating presently, do you not?
MELINDA: Our heads are full, Elias!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!
MELINDA: (Laughing) You’ve given us a lot to think about
today.
ELIAS: In this, I shall bid you both adieu in tremendous affection,
and anticipate our next meeting and the investigation that you shall be
engaging in the interim. (Chuckling)
MELINDA: Well, thank you Elias. It’s always a pleasure.
TOM: It’s been very much fun, and great information... (inaudible).
ELIAS: To you both, au revoir.
Elias departs at 12:51 p.m.
© 2001 Vicki Pendley/Mary Ennis, All Rights Reserved
Copyright 2000 Mary Ennis, All Rights Reserved.