Session 65
Translations: ES NE

Exploring Physical Perception, Counterparts, Vibrational Tones, and Probabilities


“Stuck within the plastic oubliette of physical perceptions"
"Importance of inner and outer senses"
"Concept of counterparts and emotional involvement"
"Focusing on the 'Now' to eliminate conflict"
"Vibrational tones connecting with other essences"
"Probabilities are possible choices"
"Efficient probability incorporates no conflict"
"Pragmatism and truths beyond physical experience"

Sunday, January 7, 1996 © 1996

Participants: Mary (Michael), Vicki (Lawrence), Ron (Olivia),
Cathy (Shynla), Jim (Yarr), Guin (Sophia), Tom (James), Jeri (Fromasch),
Danny (Marcus), and arriving late, Jo (Joseph), and Ed (Topla). Danny and
Ed are both new participants.

Elias arrives at 6:41 PM

ELIAS: Good evening! Quite amusing, the conflict that Michael incorporates
within preparation for these sessions! I will explain, later, this conflict.
(Turns to Danny) Welcome to new essence.

DANNY: Yes. I am visiting.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

DANNY: Thank you.

ELIAS: We have been speaking of your physical focus; your regional area
one. I will express to you that you are stuck within the plastic oubliette
of your physical perceptions. In this, I will explain to you what is
my meaning. I use the term plastic, as this is a description of something
synthetic, something that you create, an element that you mold into what
you wish it to be. An oubliette is a place. It is a place of forgetting
and remembering. It is an isolated place. It is an old term, but it holds
to your present reality.

You view your environment as outside of yourselves. You view your world
as your environment; as being separate from you now. When you look within
your sea and you view a sea urchin, is the sea urchin part of the environment
of the sea, or is the sea the environment to the urchin? It is depending
upon your perception. If you are a fish, the urchin is part of your environment.
If you are the urchin, the sea is part of your environment; but there is,
in actuality, no distinguishing.

In this, I will explain to you that your manifestation is no different.
You have created physical bodies with physical senses. To your way of thinking,
these senses are there to perceive what is outside of you; or are you perceiving,
through your senses, what you are creating? Would you feel wind if you
do not incorporate a sense of touch? Would you smell a flower, its fragrance,
if you had not created the sense of smell? You perceive what you see, for
you have created your sense of vision.

Your senses create your reality. You may view yourselves, in
actuality, as having no actual substance other than energy; for if you
do not perceive through the senses that you have created, you do not exist.
This mechanical "vessel", as you view it, is more magnificent than you
realize, for it allows you to perceive the reality that you create. Without
your outer senses, you may incorporate thought energy and project out chemically,
as we have spoken previously, through your pineal
gland into physical reality and manifestation of matter, but you will not
have an awareness of any of your creations, for you have no senses to perceive
them. Therefore, I express to you that although it is important for you
to be focusing upon your inner senses and practicing, do not discount the
valuableness of your outer senses; for they make you who you are.

I have expressed to you that these physical manifestations are expressions
of essence. They are no different! They are only physically manifest. You
have exquisitely designed your "beingness"! Part of your beingness is also
other than your physical senses, which you may remove from. (Pause, and
then to Cathy, smiling warmly)

I will say nothing to you, Shynla. You need not anticipate confrontation
from me, other than wishing you well in your adventure!

CATHY: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome. This affords you a great opportunity to be practicing
with the concepts that you have learned.

CATHY: That's what I plan! (Elias nods in approval)

ELIAS: As to this conflict; I will address to this issue, as it has
manifest this evening differently, and also quite obviously. The connection
that is being made in this situation is a recognition. It is a recognition
of a similarity of essences. What is not known of this connection is the
underlying identification. I will express that within the three individuals
who are involved within this action within this group, they have all created
a situation with counterparts. This is the identification.

Each individual; Joseph, Michael, Lawrence; incorporates a counterpart,
but each of these individuals has projected, within consciousness, certain
elements of their focus that they wish not to be experiencing, and allowing
the counterparts to experience for them. Each of these individuals has
projected a degree of emotional involvement to the counterpart. Each of
the counterparts incorporate elements of fearfulness, this being the acceptance
of the projected elements. Each of the counterparts are not within your
Seer element.

(Long pause) Once again, we incorporate our group of mice, screaming
loudly within their thoughts and expressing nothing!

VICKI: Why is the reaction so much more, though?

ELIAS: Michael incorporated an identification with this element, initially
within our sessions, with Catherine. He was not understanding or consciously
identifying the connection or the action which has been involved. The recognition
has manifest once again, most strongly with Lawrence, for obvious reasons.
He is still unaware of what the connection is; but within, he has made
an identification of the existence of the connections. He only has not
defined it. (Pause) And ... ? (Fishing for another question from Vic)

VICKI: I don't know. I had a sense of what you were talking about earlier,
but I still don't really understand.

ELIAS: I will explain later, further. It is interesting, for reference.
You may understand that within your consciousness, even within your physical
focus, you may make agreements, and you may project out elements of your
focus that you wish not to be incorporating within your experience. You
may do this in the same respect as you do with an alternate self. Counterparts
hold great connections, for they experience elements of existence with

VICKI: Do all three individuals have the same intent?

ELIAS: Of the Seers, or of the counterparts?

VICKI: Of the counterparts.

ELIAS: (Pausing) No. They incorporate many similarities, but are not
necessarily connected, within intent, to each other.

VICKI: Well, is there any one specific similarity, besides intent then,
that is shared?

ELIAS: There are several aspects that are shared in these counterparts.
Personality type is shared. Acceptance of emotional focus is also shared.
If you are speaking of fragmentation, no.

VICKI: I was just curious if there was a specific element.

ELIAS: The manifestation of fear into physical
is shared by all three, this allowing each of these individuals to be incorporating
other emotional elements, so to speak, than their own, which they themselves
create, for they incorporate physical maladies to hold this burden; this
being why I have expressed to Joseph to look to this counterpart, that
he may view himself. (Pause) You may all learn many things from each
other. This is not to say that you project elements of self to another
individual, that you might view them and learn from them externally, for
this is not necessary. You and Michael have chosen manifestation within
thought-focus, and have efficiently transferred a great degree of remaining
emotional element away. Joseph, being emotionally focused, has projected
for the reason of being overwhelmed. Therefore, he has transferred to "lighten
his focus", so to speak; although Joseph will not be believing that his
burden is very light, for he incorporates much heaviness within this terrible
burden! We shall be connecting Joseph with a beast of burden; perhaps a
donkey! (Much laughter)

RON: One point!

ELIAS: Thank you! He is carrying much heavy load! His spindly little
legs may have broken, had he not projected some of his heavy burden away!
(More laughter)

Also he believes, as you have all heard within religious terms, that
God will not be giving you more than you may handle, I believe is your
terminology. I say to you, you will not create more than you wish to experience!
Therefore, what you do experience, you choose to experience!

(Pause, and then looking at Guin) Do not think I was not listening to
your little conversation with Michael, back and forth!

GUIN: So ... (Elias starts chuckling) Could you elaborate on the "now"

ELIAS: I will express to Sophia that I will postpone speaking upon this
personally with you, for I am still waiting.

GUIN: For?

ELIAS: When Sophia trusts enough to express this conflict, Elias will
address to it; but you are still holding your key, and I have expressed
I will not be intrusive; but I will also not be your soothsayer!

GUIN: Well then, how about just in general! (Laughter)

ELIAS: You are both correct that if you are focusing upon the Now,
you do eliminate quite a significant amount of your conflict. I have expressed
to you that if you are so focused, distract yourself! Ask Michael
if his distractions this evening were not eliminating, if only momentarily,
his conflict; for if he be honestly expressing to you, he will express
in the positive. Distractions focus you within the Now. If you cannot look
to your conflict and move through the conflict, distract yourself; for
you accomplish nothing by concentrating upon a static probability!

GUIN: How do you resolve or change the probability, if you're distracting
yourself in the Now?

ELIAS: Many times, you will find that within your distraction, a portion
of you is "letting go" of the conflict. In this, the more you incorporate
letting go, tiny bits at a time, you may find that you may come to your

GUIN: Why does it feel like it's getting worse?

ELIAS: For you are concentrating on this, and incorporating temper tantrums,
are you not???

GUIN: Not all the time! (We all crack up, including Elias) Well, you
don't concentrate, and then something will happen so you have to, and then
you don't for a while; and every time you do, it gets worse!

ELIAS: Concentrate upon the Now! Everything else will be taking care
of itself!

GUIN: There's gotta be that happy medium!

ELIAS: Why? (Grinning widely)

GUIN: Because we're in physical focus! You still have to ...

ELIAS: And I incorporate your own questions to you. Why?

GUIN: Because everything we do, you still focus on the future; physical
things ...


GUIN: So ... I pass! (Laughter)

TOM: The Now meaning this breath?

ELIAS: Exactly.

TOM: Not the second past, or the second ahead, but this breath.


TOM: I try that! It doesn't work! (Laughter)

ELIAS: For you have not practiced!

TOM: I practice!

ELIAS: Then you may practice more! Just as I have expressed to you previously,
you are very accustomed to manifesting your reality within one direction.
I have expressed the example of writing hands. You incorporate many, many,
many years writing with one. You may learn to physically write with the
other ...

TOM: (Interrupting) Okay. Now. I try this. I try this! I say my right
hand is domineering. My left hand is James. I try this! I try this when
I mirror-meditate! I get five different quick, short images, and I use
that as, left hand is, the left part of me is James. The right part of
me is, here I am now.

ELIAS: Incorrect! (Smiling)

TOM: How do I turn it around?

ELIAS: You do not "turn it around"!

TOM: How do I bring them together?

ELIAS: There! You are not one and another! You are one! (Staring intently
at Tom)

TOM: Okay. Thank you.

ELIAS: Think to what I have opened this evening with: You are stuck
within the plastic oubliette of your physical perception! You see one,
and you separate all others as to be individually different. They are not!
They are all one. They are all yourself!

TOM: So I, in actuality then, I'm making a big mistake by saying, when
I focus, "James, help me". I'm separating James from Thomas, when I should
be saying, "Let's do it, James"!

ELIAS: Correct. Within this expression, you
are creating the same idea as you have created for generations, and thousands
of years, with your gods. You look to the external as being more powerful,
and incorporating more than yourself! You demean your individuality
and yourself by incorporating the idea of a "higher power". Read to our
beginnings of these sessions, as James reads these transcripts so proficiently;
and what have I expressed to you? You are your highest expression! There
is no higher. There is no more. You are the more! You are the higher! By
separating James from Thomas, (turning to Jim) or Yarr from James ...

TOM: You do it too, huh?

JIM: Used to!

ELIAS: ... you are creating the same idea as God from me!

TOM: Well, I shed the God images!

ELIAS: But you incorporate James, which is the same within your idea.

TOM: Yeah, it is. You're right.

ELIAS: So therefore, you have only changed its name!

TOM: You're right!

ELIAS: The concept remains the same.

TOM: Thank you, Elias!

ELIAS: You are welcome, James! (Pause, during which Tom sighs)

JIM: So my entrance this evening, when Michael and Lawrence were sitting
out in front, and I got just the impulse to trip over the top step and
come flying across the porch, (laughter) and everybody thinking "Oh my
God", that was pure distraction, wasn't it?

ELIAS: I will express to you that this was quite well incorporated,
although your conscious waking self was not quite as aware of your action
as your essence was aware! Very good try at cover-up, though!

JIM: Yeah! That was quite artful, I thought!

ELIAS: Quite! (Turning to Cathy) Your aspect is correct!

CATHY: Oh, why thank you!

JIM: Can we play the game?

ELIAS: We shall incorporate a brief break, to which you may be focused
upon Michael, and holding his "shaking bones"! (Laughter)

VICKI: I do have a question before you go; the spelling of Wagga.


VICKI: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome. I will return after our break for our game,
and a brief interlude of questions. I mean not to be incorporating extreme
anxiety with Michael.

TOM: Is there three questions or two questions to be asked?

ELIAS: Ah! We are trying to "up the ante", so to speak! We are presently
incorporating two. You may discuss three, although I may not comply!

TOM: Do you want to have a pipe-load over this and think about it?

ELIAS: Ah! I will focus upon this when I am returning.


ELIAS: We will address first, once again, to a misunderstanding. I have
expressed that you do view physical manifestation, that you create through
chemical reaction through your pineal gland. If you were not incorporating
physical senses, you would not view, for you would have nothing to view
or experience with!

JIM: Okay.

ELIAS: I will also take one brief moment to offer a gift to Sophia;
Jaren is essence name of small one. And to our new essence; are you wishing
of essence name?

DANNY: Please, yes.

ELIAS: Marcus.

DANNY: Marcus. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

VICKI: May I confirm spelling? M-A-R-C-U-S?

ELIAS: Correct. (Quickly)


ELIAS: Correct. (After accessing his "computer")

VICKI: Thank you. (Pause)

GUIN: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome. Be encouraging to widening of all essences inquiring.

GUIN: Thank you. I will.

ELIAS: Now you may incorporate your questions.

CATHY: "K". Vibrational tone qualities;
we need to be able to ... I need to be able to understand this piece of
the game, so that I may be able to connect better, so that I may be able
to add some more things to our city.

ELIAS: Acceptable. You each incorporate a vibrational tone. This is
a vibrational resonating that you emanate from your essence. In this, just
as within a musical chord, you strike vibrational qualities that connect
with other essences or other consciousness, as all things incorporate consciousness.
Therefore, you may connect a vibrational tone quality not only with another
essence or individual, but also with what you perceive to be "things";
a tree, a stone, a flower; for all of these "things" incorporate consciousness.
Therefore, they all possess a vibrational tone. (Pause)

CATHY: So the actual sound of the word doesn't have to match the other
word ... or does it?

ELIAS: Correct. You are basing a correlation upon physical sound. This
is not necessary. I use the example of a physical sound, within a musical
chord, as an example that you will understand. (Pause)

CATHY: I'll work on it.

ELIAS: Use your empathic and conceptualization senses, and you will
find the tone qualities. Just as your vocal chords may strike a resonating
quality in connection and identification with a musical note, you may feel,
within your body, the vibration which occurs at the moment of connecting
tones perfectly. In this same way, vibrational tones connect within consciousness.

CATHY: Thanks. (Pause)

VICKI: I have a question. Can you give any further information on probabilities
and what they are?

ELIAS: A probability is a possible choice; therefore, there are
countless numbers. You incorporate them singularly, one at a time. You
choose one action. You choose from myriads of possibilities, which are
probable choices. Each of the choices that you do not choose manifests
elsewhere. All probabilities are actualized. All are not actualized
within your focus. You possess the ability to choose the most efficient
probability; efficient being the probability which incorporates no conflict.
You do not always find the probability which incorporates no conflict,
but it is always available to you. (Pause) But as you are within your oubliette,
you do not always view the most efficient probabilities, for many times
they are within the "pit" in front of you! (Pause, grinning at Vicki) Do
not complicate the issue of probabilities! It is a simple concept. It is
only choices; and this is what your regional area two is comprised of;

GUIN: Mostly collective, correct?

ELIAS: Within regional area two, all of your personal choices for your
individual focus are manifest. They also connect with all other individuals,
but this is not a collective consciousness area. That we will be reserving
for regional area three. I choose, within probabilities, (grinning) to
be holding on the subject of regional area three; for I wish not to divert
your attention to mass events before you have incorporated individual events!

GUIN: We'll never get there! (Laughter)

ELIAS: Such optimism! Such trusting! (Looking at Guin) Acceptance. You
will "get there"! (Grinning, and a pause)

VICKI: I have a question for Michael tonight too. I almost forgot. Do
you view yourself as a pragmatist?

ELIAS: (Laughing) I will express to Michael that in one respect, I will
be saying affirmative; but there also is a key point, within pragmatism,
to which I know differently; this being that you will find that your pragmatists
view truth as relative. Truth, in this philosophy,
is dependent upon experience. I express to you that there are truths
that are unchanging. A pragmatist incorporates all of philosophy, and
creates their own truth relative to their experience; but not beyond.

There are truths beyond physical experience; constants that are, within
themselves, a priori, to which a pragmatist does not subscribe; but with
the acceptance of reality, and also those things beyond physical reality,
yes. I would agree to this. You may express to Michael that I am quite
knowing that he incorporates the philosophy of pragmatism, as does also
Ron, as do also many of you. Your truths, you believe, are based upon your
experiences; and as they hold to be efficient, you hold them to be truthful.
(Pause) I will express to you also that your view of efficiency is distorted.

RON: Can you explain that?

ELIAS: You view efficiency as what may be easiest. You believe this
to be expedient. What you incorporate within physical focus may not always
be your easiest path, so to speak, but it may be your most efficient for
your intent. You may incorporate action which is needing of some effort
initially, for you have trained yourselves within one direction; but within
your action, your effortlessness comes. Therefore, the pragmatist views
the experiences as being true, if they are efficient, temporarily; but
once another philosophy introduces itself and they are viewing this as
efficient also, they are inclined to be discontinuing in one and moving
to another, much as a leaf blowing through the wind. It incorporates effortlessness
in allowing the wind to carry it, but it does not direct itself. In this
same way, the pragmatist floats with what he views to be an efficient philosophy,
on a temporary basis.

I express to you that there are truths which are unchanging. Pragmatists
do not believe in unchanging truths. All things, to the pragmatist, are
changing; even truths. There is no truth within pragmatism! They are very
aware of this fact, which they also incorporate quite well! Facts are very
much within their focus. If a fact is presented, it is accepted.

Facts are changing. Truths are not. Throughout your history, many facts
have changed! Within your present time, facts are changing! You will be
learning, not from me, but from those around you and from what you incorporate
around you, that many elements of your reality are changing; but these
are facts! Your scientists incorporate them as fact! You also incorporate
them as fact. They are learning that their facts are not so "factual"!

GUIN: Is that because of the simultaneous time, and the changing of
probabilities, would ultimately change the facts?

ELIAS: Correct. (Pause) You do not incorporate a basic understanding
of what and who you are. Therefore, how do you determine to understand
what you have created within a universe? You do incorporate what you choose
to call "genius minds". All of you possess genius minds, but you look to
these individuals as your geniuses, who connect slightly more, momentarily,
with some information. They offer this information to you as great revelations
of fact. They are, through their most powerful and magnificently gigantic
scopes, viewing a pinpoint of reality!

You are all multidimensional creatures, and you study one dimension!
Therefore, you base facts upon one dimension, and you express these as
temporary truths. There are myriads of dimensions! (Pause, looking at Guin)
Are you understanding of time is meaningless?

GUIN: I try!

ELIAS: No! (Looking at Ron) Are you understanding that all space is
here? (Ron nods his head) No! (Looking at Vicki) Do you view other dimensions?
(Vicki shakes her head, laughing) No! Therefore, how can you base truths
and facts upon one dimension? (Pause)

Your own outer senses, to which you trust in viewing a table or a wall,
prove you to be perceiving, and prove themselves to be truthful to you;
but you do not incorporate a trustfulness of these same senses when you
are viewing another visualization of yourself! You are hallucinating, or
your eyes are crossing, or you are being very creatively imagining! (Grinning
at everybody) Your self is your truest reflection to you; but you reach,
still, for objective facts. When your scientists learn to be reversing
their focus to be examining subjective reality, they will more incorporate
truthfulness than looking to the object outside! (Looking at Guin) Just
as your wider awarenesses go in, and in, and in!

GUIN: Speaking of wider awarenesses, you've talked about Ordin and Otha
and all the essences in the game. Where, in awareness, are Twylah and Ayla?

ELIAS: Whichever direction I am choosing to be expressing this to you,
you will be misinterpreting! I will express to you that Ayla would be what
you would consider a wider awareness.

GUIN: Of Twylah?

ELIAS: Correct; although this is an extreme distortion, through language;
this being the same as incorporating the answer of expressing Otha being
a wider awareness of Elias, which also is an extreme distortion, but it
is the most comprehensible to you. I am not liking of this idea, of this
is Elias (holding hands about a foot apart) and this is Otha (holding hands
shoulder-width apart) and this is Rose (stretching arms all the way out);
for this is incorrect!

GUIN: Maybe, once we practice and use conceptualization more, the understanding
of those terms would be better?

ELIAS: This would be very helpful to you. I have expressed this previously.
(Long pause)

JIM: I have a game question.

ELIAS: Ah! The game!

JIM: In the category of mythical creatures, with indigo, I would like
to connect Pegasus.

ELIAS: Incorrect!

JIM: In the category of constellations, I would like to connect, with
indigo, the constellation Orion.

ELIAS: One point.

JIM: It's interesting, the difference in perception I'm seeing.

ELIAS: Very good!

TOM: I have a question, Elias. In the constellations, Uranus with Minerva.

JIM: Uranus is a planet.

TOM: Isn't it a constellation?

JIM: No.

TOM: Okay. How about peyote with Mobowah?

ELIAS: Incorrect! (Pause) Welcome to Joseph ...

JO: Thank you.

ELIAS: ... and to new essence. (Long pause)

GUIN: Well, how about flowers as a new category?

ELIAS: Acceptable.

GUIN: Then I would like to connect a sunflower with Elias.

ELIAS: Incorrect!

GUIN: Okay, how about a sunflower seed with Elias?

ELIAS: Incorrect!

GUIN: Damn! Alright. I know it's in there! How about nutmeg, in the
spice category, with Ayla?

ELIAS: One point.

GUIN: And how about ...

ELIAS: (Interrupting) Be noticing of this spice, for it incorporates
different tastes to your palette, simultaneously.

GUIN: I will practice. For my second point, connecting in energy, wind
with Ayla.

ELIAS: One point. We will return to your spice, for this is a very good
connection, and this is a connection that Sophia should be viewing. It
incorporates sweetness, but bitterness also. (Looking intently at Guin)

GUIN: Okay. (Note: This is the first time I have seen Elias make an
issue out of a game connection. I wonder what that's all about?)

ELIAS: Continue.

CATHY: "K". Zimbabwe; (laughter) Tomkin; in the country category!

ELIAS: Ah! (Grinning at Cathy)

CATHY: I knew you'd have something to say! Here we go! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Shynla has been incorporating much time with this connection!
And you are saving this for your farewell connection, no doubt! One point!

CATHY: Okay. How about the god of Buddha with Ordin?

ELIAS: One point! (Pause)

VICKI: Okay. For Michael; to connect, in the desire category with Otha,
to add to that as to be connecting the Seers.

ELIAS: Very good! One point!

VICKI: And in the insect category, to connect Tomkin with a walking

ELIAS: One point.

VICKI: And for myself; in the insect category and the connecting essences
category, I would like to connect ...

ELIAS: No more beetles?! (Laughter) Once again!

VICKI: I would like to connect Ron and Shynla and Michael and myself
with a ... beetle!

ELIAS: One point!

VICKI: Thank you!

ELIAS: This was the most difficult beetle! (Laughter)

VICKI: And also in the connecting essences category, intersecting with
direction, I would like to connect Michael and Lawrence with the direction
of backwards!

ELIAS: (Laughing) Well, I'm not quite sure, Pepper ... One point!

JIM: Okay. In the category, then, of mythical creatures and alien beings,
I believe, I would like to connect Twylah with Yoda.

ELIAS: (Grinning) Incorrect, but close! You have identified a little
too specifically, within your fantasy.

JIM: Okay, but close, okay. I know where to go now. Thank you.

RON: I'd like to connect ... in the category of metals ... to Patel,

ELIAS: (Looking strangely at Ron) One point.

RON: And in the category of flowers, that sunflower that Sophia was
talking about.


RON: To Patel, as well.

CATHY: Who else? (Laughing)

ELIAS: (Also laughing) Slightly off the mark; very slightly!

RON: Must be with yellow, then.

ELIAS: Wrong, slightly. Once again?

RON: Red!

ELIAS: Very good! Ron is very good guessing! One point for guess!

TOM: How about coffee with Minerva?

ELIAS: And you will connect this within which category?

TOM: Spices.

ELIAS: Incorrect! (Laughing)

TOM: I should've said herbs. I pass. That was four strikes!

ELIAS: And Joseph???

JO: Oh, I'm not connecting this week! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Ah! This is what you would be expressing to be a "loaded" statement!
(Laughter) Acceptable. I will be working, within energy, in this direction

JO: You're doing that!

ELIAS: You may be experiencing your electrical lights disengaging as
you pass under, and may you be inspired to be connecting!

JO: Okay ... (Pause)

JIM: Okay, in the new category of flowers, in connecting Twylah with

ELIAS: Incorrect!

JIM: We get a lot of different perceptions, don't we?

ELIAS: Very much so, but these are for your noticing. Now that you incorporate
an awareness, you may be sifting through, and be noticing what belongs
to what.

JIM: We need to realize our perceptions. That's just as much a part
of the game as everything else.

ELIAS: Correct.

JIM: Cool!

ELIAS: As to your additional information of John's question, which was
not expressed originally; this essence physically manifested, and was remembering
who he is. (Jim is looking confused)

VICKI: Don Juan.

JIM: Oh!

ELIAS: Within this remembering, information was offered to those who
had agreement to be listening, as do I offer the same.

JIM: Yes! Very much! (Pause)

JERI: I would like to connect, in the new category of flowers, magnolia
blossoms with Elias.

ELIAS: Very good! One point! This will be intriguing to Michael. You
may inquire of this answer with him and be watching his response. Very
good tree flower! (Smiling at Jeri)

JERI: Can points be shared? I have to confess that, that was a shared
effort. The magnolia blossoms was my part, and the essence part came from
James. It was kind of a combined feeling that we had, so we should each
get 1/2 point.

ELIAS: You have asked the question. You have incorporated the point.
This does not diminish James. Therefore, do not take away from yourself!

JERI: Okay. (Pause)

CATHY: So, is Sue a fragment of Ayla??? (Ron and Vicki crack up)

ELIAS: (Grinning) We will issue one point for Shynla, for persistence!
Correct! Very good! I am wishing you each to turn your attention to Shynla's
bubble of energy, which has just contracted, as it was expanding with anticipation!
You may wish to incorporate this as an exercise; that you may view each
other, not within your physical focus as you usually view each other, but
view only your energy fields. You will see bright colors, within
a spherical type shape, which you may watch expanding and contracting,
dependent upon the expression of the individual.

As I expressed to you within previous sessions, I do not always focus
visually with you as you visualize upon me. I often view you, as this evening,
as energy expressions, to which your physical manifestation does not show
through. Your energy expression is visualized. You will also notice within
this exercise, when you are accomplishing, not if you are accomplishing,
that your other objects within your immediate space will seemingly disappear.
You will focus only upon the energy expression; to which objects that you
have created, such as your table, do not express enough energy for you
to visually see. Therefore, these objects will seem to not exist, and you
will only perceive the energy expression of the individuals around you.

VICKI: Speaking of energy, I'm noticing that it's interesting that there
are more people in this room tonight than there normally is, but the energy
appears to be less. I'm curious about that.

ELIAS: (Pause) This is not an unusual phenomenon. Many times, you incorporate
many individuals; but within your focus this becomes threatening, for you
are not wishing to be exposing of yourselves. Although you are not exposing
of yourselves, you view this as the occurrence. You view that within our
session time, you allow yourselves to be open, therefore connecting with
each other and receiving flows of energy. As you incorporate more individuals,
you close your energy flow. This is what you would term as a "protection
device" of yours. (Grinning at Vicki) Not very acceptable, correct?

VICKI: Correct!

ELIAS: But quite normal! (Smiling) Individuals believe that if they
are allowing themselves to be very open within their energy field, that
they are exposing themselves. We would not be wishing for another individual
to be intruding into our space!

VICKI: Is that what we're protecting ourselves from??? (Laughter)

ELIAS: They may actually touch you!

CATHY: Oh no, not that!

ELIAS: Oh no! Also, the response that Michael projects is affecting
to a small extent, for this sets an automatic response within each of you.
It is a connection. It would be the same if any other of you incorporated
this same action. If one pulls back, you all pull back.

VICKI: So, to go back to the probability thing, this is a choice to
pull back.

ELIAS: Correct.

VICKI: And we could change that choice.

ELIAS: Correct.

VICKI: So, how do we do that?

ELIAS: Formula?! (Grinning widely at Vicki)

VICKI: This would be happening in regional area two?

ELIAS: Correct.

VICKI: And we would agree there to change the choice, which we could
do instantaneously?

ELIAS: Correct. (Pause, grinning) Not so easy! For it is one issue to
be sitting within your space and collectively agree, verbally, 'I am wishing
to incorporate energy'. Within regional area two, some individuals may
not be in agreement; for within their self, they may not be wishing to
be connecting. This is resulting in a feeling of diminished energy. I will
also express to you that this is a feeling. It is a physical perception,
just as the wind is a physical perception against your skin; but your skin
may be the wind. (Pause) Individually, you hold the option to disassociate
with collective agreements, and incorporate your own probabilities and
your own action.

VICKI: Then that's what I'm doing right now!

ELIAS: Very well! (Pause) Are you wishing more questions? (Pause) Very
well. As I am not wishing to be intrusive upon Michael this evening, for
he has incorporated enough conflict, I will be temporarily removing my
focus; (to Cathy) but will be looking forward to experiencing your flying
carriage! Au revoir! (9:20 PM) Note: We decided to talk to Elias again
this evening, because he said he would address the issue of this evening's
conflict further. This conversation was held between Elias, Vicki, and
Cathy; 11:36 PM.

ELIAS: So, you are wishing more questions!

VICKI: More information on the situation that happened tonight. (Pause)
With the counterparts, with Michael's reaction. (Pause) There's more to
it! (He loves making me wait!)

ELIAS: I was reluctant to be expressing completely of this subject,
for one individual would be resulting in another conflict, which I am not
wishing to be incorporating; this being Lawrence's counterpart; although
within the subject matter to which we were discussing, this individual
was unaware of the issue. (Smiling)

There are elements of similarities within these individuals; these being
a type of counterpart, as I have stated,
that you have projected elements of yourself onto. This is not a case of
"throwing to them" elements to which they do not wish to incorporate, but
you are discarding unwanted elements of your own focus. They have made
the agreement to be accepting of these elements; but in this, this creates
a volatile situation with these individuals, for their fear is consuming;
this being the reason that they manifest physical ailments. In this respect
that their fear is incorporated so greatly, there is a reaction from other
individuals who are connected.

I will say to you that Joseph would be unaware, and not incorporate
this type of response to a counterpart of yours or Michael's. Although
he may partially identify through a slight response, it would not incorporate
the scope of the response that you or Michael exhibit. First of all, you
incorporate this response as a reaction in connection with your twin. Each
of you responds, respectively. What you respond to is the volatile nature
of these individuals; and although they may seem calm and helpless and
endearing, for they are very emotionally-focused, they are also very volatile.
They all incorporate the ability and the probabilities for "unusual" reactions.
I will not say to you that they are deceptive within an overt manner; for
they are, none of them, wishing to be untruthful; but they are all secretive,
which creates an untrustworthy situation.

Within this, each of you has recognized the untrustworthiness of these
individuals; and as a mother lion will spring to the defense of its cub,
so also will each of you incorporate a very strong response to the threatening
feeling that the other moves close to. The one moves close to the jaws
of danger, not incorporating the fear or the recognition, only identifying
the counterpart and the element that they have released within agreement
to the counterpart. The other views unemotionally, and recognizes the volatileness
and the danger. Therefore, they respond.

VICKI: Is there a real danger?

ELIAS: It is a possibility. Each of these individuals possesses the
probabilities for "dangerousness". This is not to say that any of these
individuals will be striking you with a sword, but they do possess a nature
of manipulation. In this, they are potentially dangerous, for all of them
possess very good mental faculties, and are very cunning.

VICKI: So, I would have to ask then, I'm sure that there's a specific
reason you have encouraged Joseph to invite her counterpart friend to a
session. Why? (The eternal "Why?")

ELIAS: These individuals pose no threat to me within the forum of these
sessions. They also pose no threat, within reality, to any of you. They
do offer the potential for you to be viewing another aspect of how physical
elements work within counterparts. You may incorporate reactions; but as
you see, and as you know, and as I know, Michael is fine. He has incorporated
uncomfortableness, but he is not hurt. He is not damaged. I would not be
incorporating danger within this forum.

VICKI: And this individuals will be helpful for Joseph?

ELIAS: This individual may be very helpful to Joseph. (Pause) This individual
possesses less affectingness to Michael. Michael's response was not of
this individual.

VICKI: I understand that.

ELIAS: Given the situation of Marcus not being incorporated, Michael
would have experienced his usual slight uncomfortableness. He may have
incorporated slightly more, but not much.

VICKI: Yeah, I understand about Marcus. I just find it curious that
this particular individual could be so helpful to Joseph.

ELIAS: Joseph is also emotionally-focused. Therefore, Joseph will be
open to a flow, and may incorporate information from this counterpart;
whereas Michael and Lawrence are not emotionally-focused, and their reasoning,
in projecting, is also different. Joseph has projected in an attempt to
be easing his own situation, or what he perceives to be his own situation.
Michael and Lawrence have projected for the reason of not wishing to incorporate
emotional focus. (Pause) You have thrown off or discarded what you do not
like; an unwanted part; but within agreement, and also incorporating responsibility
for that projection, in allowing yourselves each to connect with these

VICKI: Well, I certainly have always been very drawn to that individual,
until the forum of these sessions began, and then the draw dissipated.

ELIAS: He does not share your intent. (Pause) Are you feeling better

VICKI: Well, it's always good to have one's curiosity satisfied a little
bit. I wasn't feeling badly!

ELIAS: I shall rephrase. Are you feeling more "normal" now?

VICKI: (Laughing) I started feeling a lot more "normal" when that silly
light started going off and on!

ELIAS: Nice touch!

VICKI: Very nice! I've been looking at that light for a while now!

ELIAS: And do you not find this interesting that as we spoke, your light

VICKI: I find it very interesting!

ELIAS: As Lawrence expressed "I am not feeling the same energy as I
normally do", and Elias was blinking blinking blinking blinking! And as
Elias was blinking, was Joseph noticing of this electricity also, being
my departing words for him also! (Pause, grinning)

VICKI: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome. I will offer my adieu to Shynla, and I will
be incorporating you within our regularly scheduled time!

CATHY: Sounds good to me!

ELIAS: Therefore, there is no separation. There is no distance. There
is no time. All is meaningless!

(To Cathy) I shall see you as usual, (to Vicki) and you also!

Au revoir! (11:57 PM)

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