Disassociating From Reality
Topics:
“Disassociating From Reality”
“Exploring Sexual Pleasure”
“Excess is Not Good!”
Sunday, June 18, 2000
© 2001 (Private/London)
Participants: Elisabeth (Sebastia) and Gerhard (Doro).
Elias arrives at 12:58 PM. (Arrival time is 25 seconds)
ELIAS: Good afternoon! (Smiling)
ELISABETH: Hello, Elias!
ELIAS: We meet again!
ELISABETH: Yes! (Elias chuckles) I want to ask you a question
about my son again.
ELIAS: Very well.
ELISABETH: I want to know what he is experiencing when he is not
in this normal reality. Is it like a bleed-through of other focuses
of himself, or is it something else? I want to understand because....
ELIAS: I am understanding. (Pause)
Let me explain that within these types of manifestations in this dimension,
the individual has chosen to be experiencing their reality, in part, in
association with the official reality that you participate within, but
in part, they are disassociating themselves from this particular reality.
Now; understand, I have expressed previously, within this physical dimension,
there are many other expressions of consciousness which occupy this physical
space arrangement. You, within your perception and your recognition
of reality, create a veil between yourselves and these other expressions
of consciousness.
This is not to say that they are not very real and that they do not
exist, for they do. You merely do not participate with them objectively,
for you create a design of your reality in one direction and they create
a design of their reality in another direction.
Your son, in like manner to other individuals, does not create the veil
in the same manner as do you. Therefore, the awareness is held in
a manner in which he allows himself to perceive other expressions of consciousness
within this physical space arrangement that you do not physically see or
hear or engage with any of your outer senses.
This be the reason that for centuries throughout your history, the officially
accepted reality and the individuals that participate in that deem these
individuals to be delusional or engaging imagination continuously, for
there is a recognition that they are playing a different game.
You engage one game in this reality. They are physically manifest
in this reality, and at times, they are quite lucidly focused in this reality,
participating with you. But at times, they are not.
At times, he is allowing himself to be interactive with other focuses.
At other times, he is allowing himself to be viewing, watching, and even
participating with other expressions of consciousness that occupy this
space arrangement that you would view to be quite foreign from your norm,
so to speak. Even the forms are not identifiable to you.
Individuals such as your son have chosen to be manifesting in a particular
focus — not all focuses, but in a particular focus — allowing themselves
to experience different aspects and avenues of this physical reality.
In actuality, for the most part, most essences explore one or more focuses
manifest in this manner to be allowing themselves the experience of interaction
within a physical dimension, viewing much more of their physical environment
than you allow yourselves within your officially accepted reality.
Let me also express to you, you move in a particular direction and steer
yourselves, so to speak, within a certain course presently. Your
quest is to be offering yourselves information — correct? — to be objectively
gaining information and assimilating this information in relation to your
participation within this shift. I have expressed many different
aspects of the movement of this shift, and what you may recognize in your
movement within this shift.
Now; each of you that participate in your officially accepted reality
strive to be widening your awareness, engaging your periphery, and allowing
yourselves to view and participate with and explore more of your physical
reality, correct? Correct. In this action, you are striving
to be creating what your son already engages, for he does not hold the
veil that you hold.
Now; I have also expressed that in the action of this shift, you are
indeed, in actuality, altering all of your reality. You are moving
into a very unfamiliar expression. The design of your reality presently
is changing, and in this alteration, as you begin movement into the acceptance
of your beliefs, you begin the recognition that the identification of what
is exhibited by your son is NOT lunacy. This individual is not what
you term to be (pause) “un-normal” or malfunctioning....
ELISABETH: But this is not my problem with him. My problem
is that I can see that he is not happy with this, and that he is not able
to manage with this....
ELIAS: I am understanding.
ELISABETH: I care what happens to him. If only I could see
that he is not in this reality, and I could have the feeling that he feels
good with it, it would be good for me, and I could let him be there, even
if it’s not normal. But I see that he does not feel good with it,
that he is full of fears, and this is my problem.
ELIAS: Quite, and I am quite understanding of your concern.
I have offered this information, in a manner of speaking, as a background
information, that you may understand why I express to you the importance
of your acceptance, for what occurs with your son and with many other individuals
is that they view their choice to be different.
They recognize — HE recognizes objectively that his reality is viewed
differently. He is quite objectively aware that what he views within
his reality is different from what you view within your reality, or what
MANY people view within their reality. This creates a conflict, for
the mass belief systems — which you ALL participate within — are very strong.
Let me express to you, merely that these individuals — and your son
also — allow themselves to not be creating these veils does not create
an exemption from beliefs. They participate in your belief systems
to the same measure that you participate.
Therefore, as you or the masses are not accepting of what they are creating,
they also are not accepting of what they are creating, for they are assuming
the beliefs, in alignment with those beliefs, and are discounting of themselves,
expressing that there is some element wrong with their creation and their
interaction in reality.
I have expressed recently in this forum with individuals, although you
create a thought process that you express that you are appreciative of
differences — within behaviors, within exhibitions, within energy, within
ANY expression — for this offers you variety and diversity, in actuality,
you accept difference in very minute expressions. In actuality, you
genuinely wish for sameness.
Now; yestereve, I offered information within a group of individuals
which I shall offer to you also, that you may allow yourself an understanding
of why this individual experiences difficulty and distress with what he
is creating. This is directly related to the subject of difference,
and how you are not accepting of difference.
As you each create expressions and behaviors within your reality that
appear in sameness, you create an automatic action continuously, throughout
your focus, of comparison. This is the action of how you objectively
measure your worth and your acceptability.
As you create comparisons of yourself to other individuals outside of
yourself, and you view similarities and sameness, you allow yourself to
validate yourselves that you are the same. Therefore, you are acceptable,
and you create a rise in the measure of your worth.
As you view any expressions of difference, you become suspect, and you
express a question within yourself: “Why are you exhibiting behaviors and
expressions of your reality that is different?”
And you search for the expression of sameness outside of yourself to
validate, for this is your process, and as you find no validation, you
assess that your behavior and your creation of your reality is wrong.
It does not fit in alignment — in comparison — with other individuals and
how they create their reality.
And this wrongness is reinforced, for the masses also view the one that
expresses differently and they also assess, “Difference is not acceptable.
You must be creating the same to be validating.”
What he is creating, as I have stated to you, is not wrong, and if you
are allowing yourselves to recognize the movement that you are engaging
in relation to this shift in consciousness, you all are moving into the
very type of expression that he is already creating, and the difference
in that action is that as you, en masse, more and more create these types
of expressions, you begin to deem them as acceptable, but those who are
already experiencing the fullness of these experiences are deemed unacceptable.
It is confusing to him and conflicting to him, for he continuously is
attempting and wishing to be fitting himself into the expression that he
views as the norm, judging himself that his choice is wrong. This
be the reason that I express to you, I understand your expression of wishing
to be helpful, your want to understand, your want to be helpful.
What I am expressing to you is that in genuineness, your greatest expression
of helpfulness is to be accepting, for in allowing yourself to be accepting,
you provide the expression of validation that this individual is not wrong
and that he so desperately seeks, for without the outside validation —
which you ALL participate within and you ALL seek — he continues to attempt
to fit himself into expressions that are foreign to him and that he does
not fit within, and this creates a frustration, and the frustration creates
a lack of motivation, and therefore, he does not attempt any longer.
He expresses, “Why shall I attempt? I may not succeed. Therefore,
I shall not motivate myself to be moving in any direction. I hold
no control over my reality. I am doomed to the victimization of this
reality that I have created and I am a prisoner within it, seeking to be
validated and not acquiring that validation, and it is impossible for my
movement into the stream of the norm. Therefore, I shall give up.”
And he has created this action many times previously, in frustration.
But what a wondrous expression you may offer through your acceptance, in
the validation!
I am not expressing to you that if you are engaging this acceptance,
that he shall immediately recognize this objectively, and spring to his
feet and be joyful! (Grinning, and Elisabeth laughs) For he is quite
accustomed to creating his box, and he is quite accustomed to discounting
of himself and not accepting of outside validation. He is not trusting
of that outside validation any longer.
But as you continue to be validating through your acceptance and not
creating judgments, he shall move in increments, in the allowance of himself
to become more accepting of himself.
ELISABETH: And you think there is a probability that he is able
to accept himself?
ELIAS: Yes.
ELISABETH: Sounds good! (Laughing)
ELIAS: Within a time framework and with the interaction that you
offer in helpfulness, yes; in quite like manner, Sebastia, to myself.
Individuals approach myself in great fear and tremendous expressions
of a lack of acceptance of self, and as I offer an expression of acceptance
to them in time frameworks in which they are not allowing themselves to
express this to themselves, they do allow the expression from myself temporarily,
and they are accepting of that temporarily, to the point that they begin
to feel their own power of their own expression, and in increments, they
begin their own trust and their own acceptance of self.
You are no different. You hold this same expression. You
may be offering this same offering to your son, and it shall be equally
as powerful. (Smiling affectionately)
ELISABETH: Thank you.
ELIAS: You are very welcome.
GERHARD: I see that my impressions and connecting with focuses
are blocked by my impatient expectations, and that relaxing and opening
to more of the information that is available now will change this, as well
as the fact that I begin to let go of my wish to change it at all, and
just let it change by itself. Is this correct?
ELIAS: Yes. As you are not striving to be attaining, you
shall open to your periphery.
It is not a brass ring to be grasped! (Grinning) It is already
an element of you. Therefore, it is not a thing to strive for, but
merely an action that you may be engaging, as you allow yourself to relax
and be accepting of the position that you exhibit now.
As you continue to judge the expression that you create in the now,
and express to yourself that you are not accomplishing, that you are not
expressing well enough, that you need be better, you are creating this
hold upon your energy. “I am not good enough yet; I must strive to
be better, and accomplish.”
But as you allow yourself to be relaxing and accepting the expression
that you are creating now, knowing that what you are creating now is already
the best, you loosen your hold upon your energy and you surprise yourself,
for you allow yourself to open to your periphery, and you allow yourself
to be experiencing.
As you hold tightly to your energy, also you discount the information
that you allow to be objectively recognized through your impressions, for
you automatically discount your impressions.
“Ah, this is imagination. Ah, I am delusional. I thought
I may have experienced a moment, but no.” But yes! (Chuckling, and
Gerhard and Elisabeth laugh) Be playful! (Chuckling)
GERHARD: Thank you.
ELIAS: You are very welcome.
GERHARD: Now could you tell me essence names, family, alignment,
and orientation of some of the participants of the German mailing list?
ELIAS: Very well.
GERHARD: First, Brigitte. (Pause)
ELIAS: Demre; D-E-M-R-E. (dem’ree) Essence family, Sumari;
alignment in this focus, Vold; orientation, common.
GERHARD: Okay. Christine? (Pause)
ELIAS: Ben-ami; B-E-N-hyphen-A-M-I. (ben-ah-me’) Essence
family, Zuli; alignment, Gramada; orientation, common.
GERHARD: Thank you. Conny? (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Oleg; O-L-E-G. (o’leg) Essence family,
Tumold; alignment, Ilda; orientation, common.
GERHARD: Marlies? (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Mallory; M-A-L-L-O-R-Y. (mal’ah-ree)
Essence family, Milumet; alignment, Ilda; orientation, common.
GERHARD: And Jens? (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Ranatad; R-A-N-A-T-A-D. (ran’ah-tod)
Essence family, Borledim; alignment, Zuli; orientation, soft.
GERHARD: A question: Why is it that women quite often do not
want to have sex with their partners, even if they love them and would
like to have sex? Is there a mass belief involved?
ELIAS: I express to you, there is a strength within an expression
of mass beliefs — an aspect of the belief system of sexuality — which has
been expressed throughout very many of your cultures within your world
and for many, many, many centuries.
In this, the female gender is influenced by the belief that the interaction
of sexual actions — or intercourse sexually — is to be engaged for the
purpose of procreation, and not for the purpose of pleasure. This
belief has been reinforced tremendously through much of your history and
most of your cultures.
Now; I am understanding that within your previous century and this new
century, you are allowing yourselves more of an expression of openness
and discovery of pleasure in relation to this physical action, but even
within the cultures that are moving more in these types of expressions,
there continues to be a tremendous influence of mass belief systems, for
there continues to be many cultures throughout your globe that hold very
strongly in reinforcement of this belief.
Within this time framework, you are — as I have stated previously in
relation to this shift in consciousness — turning your attention to self,
allowing yourself to become more aware of your beliefs and their influence
upon your perception.
Be remembering, your perception creates ALL of your reality.
Therefore, if you are allowing an influence of beliefs to dictate to
your perception that sexual interaction, in physical action, is unacceptable,
or that it is not pleasurable, or that it is not “supposed” to be pleasurable,
or that it is a function designed for one purpose, you shall create a perception
which physically creates your reality, and may be even physically affecting
of the functioning of your actual body. Some individuals hold an
underlying alignment with these beliefs so strongly that they create an
expression of energy which is affecting of their physical body responses,
and do not experience pleasure in this action, and may even experience
discomfort.
I may express to you also that within the cultures that are beginning
to be allowing themselves, in the expressions of individuals, to be exploring
and recognizing your own designs of choices and your own seeking of pleasure,
there are many aspects of this belief system that are associated — or that
YOU associate — with the physical actions of sexual interaction.
Women, female individuals, express that they are more expressive of
emotional qualities; that they are not merely functioning in physical capacity,
but are needing of intimacy in expression of emotional qualities in conjunction
with the physical actions. This creates another aspect of the beliefs.
I shall express to you genuinely, the action of physical, sexual intercourse
is a physical action which creates, if you are allowing, in its natural
flow of energy, a physical expression of pleasure.
This is a very PHYSICAL action. You couple it with many other
types of expressions, for you associate it with intimacy. It is physically
the closest interaction that you may engage — within your perceptions —
to one another, for you have not allowed yourselves to be engaging other
expressions of intimacy that may create your identification of an even
closer interaction. You may be physically merging with another individual,
and create an even closer interaction than this action of sexual intercourse.
But within your perceptions and aligning with your beliefs, this is
your identification of your closest, most intimate expression physically,
as you occupy separate physical bodies, and in this, you associate that
closeness, that intimacy, with certain definitions of roles, of bonds,
of relationships.
You also associate very intimately with yourselves in this action.
As you associate that this is the closest, most intimate action that you
may be engaging with another individual, you underlyingly also associate
that in this action, you are opening yourselves, in your energy, to another
individual.
You are allowing a penetration of your energy field. You are creating
a vulnerability, an openness to another individual, and this creates an
element of reserve and suspicion, for you associate that as you become
vulnerable and open in relation to another individual, that you are opening
to hurtfulness. You automatically assume hurtfulness, or the potential
for hurtfulness, in relation to other individuals.
There are many, many, many aspects of beliefs that are associated with
this action, and you may express to yourselves that you have liberated
yourselves so very much sexually, and I may express to you that you do
NOT offer yourselves the expression of much freedom yet, en masse, in this
area! (Grinning) You continue to be creating your castle walls (chuckling)
and your fortresses about you, expressing caution and suspicion in this
action.
Let me also express to you, the mere action of pleasure within your
physical dimension is suspect! You view yourselves to be so very
liberated within your expressions and your beliefs, and experiencing such
freedom! (Chuckling)
I express to you, you limit yourselves tremendously, for you view many
aspects of your reality that are the presentment of pleasure ... ah, but
pleasure is not good! And especially the excess of pleasure, for
excess of ANY expression is not good! Pleasure may be associated
with vices, and these are quite not good! Ha ha ha ha! (Gerhard and
Elisabeth laugh) Playfulness and fun is irresponsible, and pleasure
is self-indulgent! Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk! (Chuckling)
These belief systems are difficult to be neutralizing. They are
difficult to be moving into acceptance of, for they are very strong, and
you automatically are reinforcing of them.
Even in your openness, you may look to some expressions and say to yourselves
and to each other, “Ah, sexual activity and intercourse is acceptable and
pleasure is acceptable in certain measure, in certain expressions, not
in other expressions.” I shall offer to you, your identification
of pornography is not quite acceptable, although it is an expression of
pleasure with many individuals. But this is excessive, and excess
is not good! (Chuckling)
But you create excess as you stifle yourselves, for the motivation to
be exploring in excess or extreme becomes greater if you are denying yourselves.
In the denial of self, you create either a tremendous lack of motivation
— as your son — or you create an extreme of motivation, which creates fanaticism.
(Chuckling)
GERHARD: Thank you. The time has just come to an end now,
so thank you very much.
ELIAS: You are very welcome! I express great affection to
you both, and much encouragement.
Acknowledge yourself, Sebastia. You hold the ability to be accomplishing,
and you shall move, and your son shall also.
ELISABETH: Thank you.
ELIAS: You shall both be helpful in this situation, and do not
discount yourself that the world does not follow. It matters not!
(Chuckling)
I express to you each, in great lovingness, an anticipation of our next
meeting.
ELISABETH: And we arrange it all the time! (Laughing)
ELIAS: And I shall be checking on your progress, so to speak!
Ha ha ha ha! And as we travel, we shall travel together, shall we
not?
BOTH: Yes!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha! And I shall be anticipating of our next
traveling!
To you, my friends, this day, au revoir.
ELISABETH: Au revoir.
Elias departs at 1:55 PM.
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