Monday, December 31, 2001 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Frank (Ulra)
Elias arrives at 12:21 PM. (Arrival time is 21 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

FRANK: Oh, good morning! Nice to talk to you again! (Elias laughs) It’s been a little while, from my objective point of view.

ELIAS: And how is your adventure proceeding?

FRANK: Oh, quite well, quite well! Yes, things are going good. I feel like I’m getting more and more control over my creations, I guess, is the way to put it.

ELIAS: Very well!

FRANK: So, let’s see. First, let me ask you about a dream I had the night before last. In this dream I was visiting my partner’s office, which I’ve never actually been to objectively, and when I entered this office, I was shocked because there were many, many people working there, and it turned out it was actually a fairly big company, which in objective reality it is not. I was very surprised by this, and that’s about the gist of it. There was more to it but most of it I’ve sort of forgotten between now and then. I’m curious as to what message I was giving myself with this.

ELIAS: And as always, offer your impression.

FRANK: I think that what I’m trying to communicate to myself is that things are going well, that I have in fact not objectively created what was in the dream, but it’s definitely moving in that direction and that this business that I’m working on is proceeding fairly well.

ELIAS: Correct, and also that you may be surprising yourself in your accomplishment as you continue to trust your ability to generate this type of environment.

FRANK: Yes, I guess I am surprising myself with regard to that, quite pleasantly so, too. (Elias chuckles)

Which kind of brings me to the next part: as you are probably aware, I’ve been working a lot on the concept of accepting beliefs as opposed to changing them, particularly with regard to this concept that we’ve discussed in the past about achieving things through hard work as opposed to achieving them in sort of an effortless way. That seems to be working, and the area that it seems to be most evident in is my employment or work, or however you want to term it. I was wondering if you could maybe address that a little bit, in terms of the things I’m doing in that regard and maybe advice as to how I continue with this or improve upon what I’m doing.

ELIAS: Be remembering, my friend, the concept of achievement, so to speak, in an effortless manner is a perception and not necessarily literal as to the incorporation of action. For individuals may be generating much action and also that which you may term to be effort in an objective physical manner of expression but also incorporate the perception of ease and effortlessness, for what they are generating is pleasurable and there is an appreciation for what is being generated. Therefore, although you may incorporate physically exerting effort, your perception moves in the creation of the effort not being an effort. Are you understanding?

FRANK: Yes, I think so. I think so.

ELIAS: In this, in relation to the movement of acceptance of beliefs, you allow yourself this type of action in recognizing that you do incorporate beliefs but that you also incorporate choice and that it matters not. The effort that may have been expressed in relation to the beliefs previously is dissipated or moved in another manner. For you may continue to be expressing what may be termed as a similar or even equal amount of action in choices, but there is an ease in the choices for there is not a force of energy being expressed in relation to the beliefs. There is less tension, less friction and less of a limitation which creates blocks or obstacles.

This is accomplished not in attempting to change beliefs but rather in merely recognizing the existence and expression of your beliefs and allowing yourself to discontinue creating the judgments and the expectations associated with the beliefs, moving your perception into a direction of genuinely recognizing that it matters not.

FRANK: Right. Well, I think I’m starting to move pretty rapidly in that direction. The approach I’m taking is, I sort of think about what the belief is, in this case this belief of needing effort and struggle and hard work to achieve things that are worthwhile, and try to realize that it is just a belief and it’s a belief that a lot of people hold. It’s okay as a belief if that’s what people want to believe, but I choose to activate a different reality...

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: ...or approach I’m taking, and it seems to be working.

ELIAS: Correct. For you are acknowledging that you incorporate this belief and it matters not, for you may incorporate this belief but the belief itself needs not dictate to you what your choice shall be in what you create objectively. This is not a matter of changing the belief and expressing to yourself, ’I do not believe THIS any longer,’ for you do, but you are allowing yourself to generate different choices.

FRANK: Now, that’s interesting. You say that I still believe that or still hold the belief?

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: But simultaneously I hold a different belief, correct? I’m creating a new belief that’s sort of side-by-side there. I mean, I guess what I’m looking at and kind of what I say to myself is that I have this belief and it’s okay as a belief, but I choose to act as something different.

ELIAS: This is a common misconception in viewing beliefs and expressing to one’s self that you are creating a new belief or that you are disregarding an old belief or that you are deactivating, so to speak, a particular belief and engaging a new belief, almost in a manner as though each of the beliefs were an object that you hold.

In this, you ALL incorporate all of these beliefs. It is not a situation in which individuals do not incorporate some beliefs and do incorporate other beliefs. The belief systems that are incorporated in this physical dimension, as I have stated many times, are an aspect of the design of this physical dimension. Therefore, every individual that participates in this physical dimension incorporates all of these beliefs. Each of you direct your attentions to be expressing different aspects of different beliefs, but this is not to say that you do not incorporate in the design of your focus all of them.

FRANK: I always thought that beliefs were just common to me...

ELIAS: No.

FRANK: ...I have my beliefs, some other person has their beliefs. They could be the same, they could be different, but they’re individual. But it sounds like you’re saying that they’re ... well, what you said is that they’re part of physical reality, they’re just sort of out there and that we all hold all of them.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: I’m understanding it. Okay, well, that’s a revelation.

ELIAS: It is a matter of attention, and this is the reason that I express to you each such emphasis upon how you are directing your attention. For you move your attention in association with certain beliefs, and in that action you allow the expression of the belief to direct your choice rather than directing your choice regardless of the belief. This is the expression of freedom which you are allowing yourself to experiment with and to move into in action.

FRANK: Well, that’s very interesting. This may be kind of a dumb question at this point, but would you define ’belief’ for me in the context that we’ve been discussing it? (Pause)

ELIAS: Beliefs in themselves are merely associations with your physical reality. They are objective expressions, explanations so to speak, of the interpretation of your physical reality, of every aspect of your physical reality.

FRANK: For how the world works?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, and beyond. They are objective explanations of your physical reality in every aspect of it.

Now; you also incorporate the belief system of duplicity, as you are aware, and this belief system has been created also as an explanation of your physical reality in a type of expression to be categorizing. It is an organizational belief system, and throughout your history of physical manifestation in this physical dimension, in a manner of speaking you have moved this particular belief system in a type of developmental manner, expressing it more and more precisely in more and more of an expression of separation; which has been purposeful to this point, but no longer serves you for you have explored the expression of separation in fullness.

Therefore, collectively you have chosen to be creating this Source Event of this shift in consciousness and inserting this master event into your objective reality, altering the direction of your reality, recognizing that the expression of separation is becoming obsolete, so to speak, and has offered you the opportunity to be exploring certain expressions within this physical reality, but has become limiting. And in the design of consciousness and essence, your natural action of continuous exploration and continuous becoming is being stifled now in the expression of separation. Duplicity has been designed to facilitate separation.

Now; duplicity also, as you are aware, is a belief system; therefore it also is an intrinsic expression in the design of this physical reality. Therefore, you are not eliminating this belief system, either. You are merely recognizing that you do incorporate the associations and the expressions of duplicity, but that you are not locked to it and that the expressions of it are not absolute, which therefore alters the expression of duplicity, eliminating the judgments but continuing in the recognition of preference.

FRANK: But there is a difference between preference and the concept of something is good, something is bad.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: Okay, that’s the realization that I need to come to.

ELIAS: Correct, and you already are moving in some expressions in which you have allowed yourselves to know genuinely, inwardly, the reality of this difference and allow yourselves to objectively express a movement in perception, therefore generating a different expression of reality.

FRANK: In terms of physical objective time, when will all of this sort of be generally accepted?

ELIAS: As I have stated previously, now that you have moved into your new millennium in objective terms of time, you are inserting this shift in consciousness into your objective reality, and in this the time framework which you incorporate to be objectively inserting is less than the time framework which you incorporated to be subjectively generating this movement.

Within your previous century, collectively you have afforded yourselves an entire century to be subjectively moving in association with this shift in consciousness. In this century you shall accomplish its insertion approximately within three-quarters of this century.

FRANK: So it’s still a while, from my point of view.

ELIAS: Within association of time, merely in your physical dimension. This is relatively quite short.

FRANK: Well, depending on how old you are. (Both laugh) The shift, will it be sort of progressive? In other words sort of continuously progressive, or will it happen in sort of jumps and leaps? Or does that question make any sense?

ELIAS: I am understanding. And this is your choice. It already moves progressively and at times in leaps.

In this I may express to you, this is not an event and it is accomplished by each individual. Therefore, YOU may accomplish what you term to be the completion of this shift in consciousness in your individual focus within any time framework, and that may be expressed quite prior to the time framework in which the entirety of your globe shall be expressing the insertion of this shift. For it is an individual movement, and each individual may be accomplishing the insertion in different time frameworks.

My response to your question is that within probabilities that you all collectively are generating and in agreement with, every individual throughout your globe in that time framework shall have accomplished this movement.

FRANK: So the world will be a much different place then.

ELIAS: Quite. (Pause)

FRANK: Next, I would like to talk to you about the concept of health and beliefs with regard to that, or where I am with regard to that. I think that perhaps now in terms of my professional life things seem to be going very well and now I’m sort of re-focusing on a new area. So, I guess I’d like to talk about that a little bit.

One of the things that I recognize is that I hold to this belief that as I get older my physical body will deteriorate, which I guess intellectually I understand is a belief, but I haven’t really made much progress in going much beyond that. So, can you sort of address to that as it relates to me and where I’m at, and how I can improve my general health? Which overall isn’t bad, but it seems to be sort of on the decline.

ELIAS: And what is the nature of your concern?

FRANK: Oh, I don’t know, as I get older it gets much more difficult to do the things I did when I was younger and I heal slower and all that. I guess I’m operating under the premise that it doesn’t HAVE to be that way, that that’s based on a belief system. So I guess the question is, maybe you could help me identify more of what my beliefs are in this regard and how I go about accepting them and moving in other directions.

ELIAS: Rather, identify your expression of judgment concerning this belief and what you THINK you want or wish for in relation to the expression of health and your beliefs, and identify what is the significance of expressing a different type of physical generation.

FRANK: I’m sorry, you’re asking me to identify that?

ELIAS: Yes. Allow yourself to view what you are actually expressing in relation to beliefs, that generating a different physical expression is better.

FRANK: Well, I’d like to say it’s a choice that I’d like to make.

ELIAS: For you associate that it is better, which is what we are speaking of, my friend, in this discussion this day concerning beliefs and your associations with them, and allowing yourself to accept the beliefs and therefore moving your attention in different manners which allows you a different expression of perception, which offers you the freedom to experience within this physical dimension in appreciation of all that you generate and create. As you move into an expression of ’it matters not’ in acceptance of your beliefs and what you are creating, you offer yourself freedom to manipulate energy in whichever manner you choose.

Now; in association with health or in association with ANY movement within your physical expression - but we shall incorporate health as an example, for this is the subject that you have chosen - as you concentrate your attention upon this belief that is expressed as a strongly incorporated mass belief, that as you incorporate older years your health shall decline so to speak, you continue to create that action.

Now; in allowing yourself to examine this belief and explore your expression of it, rather than creating conflict and forcing energy against it as you explore your own expression of it, you offer yourself the freedom of the experience and you discontinue the action of batting about the dead mouse.

FRANK: I’m sorry, I didn’t hear the last part.

ELIAS: You allow yourself to discontinue batting about the dead mouse. (Frank laughs) For what you are creating is holding your attention upon a particular belief, continuing to create in association with that belief and continuing to fascinate yourself with the creation in association with the belief, for you are not allowing yourself to recognize your choice.

This moves quite closely in association with the concept of learning. As you are aware, I have expressed many times you do not incorporate manifestation in this physical dimension to be learning or teaching. But in association with learning, you express within yourself that there are some expressions that you do not incorporate yet or some abilities that you do not incorporate yet and that they must be acquired through learning, and once they have been acquired you may allow yourself to incorporate different actions - and until they are acquired you fascinate yourself with what you perceive you DO hold, and you continue to create those expressions.

In this scenario, your association is that you must learn how to alter your belief and incorporate, once again, the new belief which shall thusly offer you the ability to create a different physical expression within your physical focus. But as I have stated, you already incorporate ALL of the beliefs; it is merely a matter of which aspects of beliefs you are directing your attention to. There is no ’thing’ to be acquired.

If your attention is directed to a certain expression, this is what you shall generate. If your attention is occupied in the expression of deteriorization of health, this is what you shall create. For your attention directs your perception, and your perception creates all of your physical reality.

FRANK: I’m sure you’re aware of this, and maybe you can help me to understand the difference if there is one, but I’ve tried to approach this whole concept of health, at least over the recent timeframe, in sort of the same way that I approached the concept of struggle being needed to achieve things that are worthwhile. So is it that in doing that I’m starting to move in the right direction but just haven’t fully done it, or I don’t really understand what I’m doing with this or...?

ELIAS: This is the method that you have chosen to be incorporating. Therefore in your expression individually, in association with the terms of working or not working in your terms, this method allows you an avenue in which you shall objectively accomplish, for you allow yourself a reinforcement. But you also quite strongly associate in methods with process and therefore you move initially more slowly to the point in which you have allowed yourself enough objective validation and evidence, so to speak, that you are actually accomplishing the movement that you want. Once you have offered yourself what you deem to be enough evidence, you allow yourself to move much more rapidly.

FRANK: But I don’t need to do that, obviously.

ELIAS: It is not a matter of what you need or need not be incorporating, my friend; it merely is the method that you have chosen.

FRANK: Here I am with the duplicity thing again, judging that.

ELIAS: Quite, and it matters not. It is merely the action that you have chosen, and in your words, this IS working.

FRANK: It’s so easy to fall into the whole thing of duplicity and judgment.

ELIAS: Quite! And this is the point, not what method you have chosen, not whether you are generating movement or not - for you are, you always are - but addressing to the intensity of association with judgments in association with duplicity and allowing yourself to be objectively aware of these expressions and the automaticness of them and the limitations of them.

FRANK: The thing is, a lot of times I realize all that but then, as you always talk about, the automatic reaction just seems to kick in so strongly and...

ELIAS: Quite, for this is quite familiar.

FRANK: I guess it’s sort of ’in the heat of the day or existence.’ In other words, when I just sort of sit back and think about things, I understand it a certain way, but then when things are moving rapidly and there’s all sorts of external stimuli, then I fall into these automatic reactions.

ELIAS: Quite, and this is the significance of noticing, and this is the reason that I generate such emphasis upon this action of noticing, practicing with your awareness objectively in paying attention to your expressions and noticing your automatic responses, which requires initially, so to speak, a concentration of energy objectively upon self and a noticing awareness in a continuous manner of ALL of your expressions, which is quite unfamiliar.

FRANK: Well, at least you’ve been consistent with that! (Elias laughs) But again, I must say, from when we first started these sessions to now it’s slowly all coming together as to all these things that you have been so consistently insistent upon.

ELIAS: I am aware. (Chuckles) You are all quite fond of some elements of repetition! Ha ha ha!

FRANK: Well, it’s the way we’ve chosen to do it!

ELIAS: Quite!

FRANK: Boy, I want to talk more about this next subject today but our time is not too much longer, so let me just throw it out there. We talked about this a little bit in our last session and in a session that just came over the internet. Just this morning I was reading about this, this concept of the fact that I create everything in my reality including other individuals that I interact with.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: What’s hard for me, and I suspect for a lot of other people too, is this idea that if I have totally free will and the people I interact with have totally free will, it just seems like there’s somehow got to be a clash, that if someone else wants something and I want something that are in opposition to each other, how can this work? And in thinking about it, it occurs to me that maybe we’re all basically in our own probable realities and that’s the explanation for this seeming dichotomy. Maybe you can talk about that, explain that.

ELIAS: In actuality, it is not a dichotomy. For as I have expressed, all of your individual reality is created through your perception. You are interactive with other individuals; you are not exclusively solely occupying this physical reality. You do interact with many other individuals - you interact with the expression of their energy. What is physically expressed is manifest through the projection of your individual perception.

In this let me express to you, my friend, quite simply, you may be occupying a particular room, so to speak, with several other individuals, and this room may be in your terms quite empty other than occupied with the individuals. There may be placed one singular candle in the center of this room, and each individual shall create their own physical reality of the candle, of the room, and of each other individual within the room. You shall all perceive uniquely.

Now; you may all interact with each other concerning the appearance of the room and of each other and of the candle, and in this, as you interact with the different expressions of energy, each individual shall filter that energy through their beliefs, their associations, and funnel that energy into the mechanism of their individual perceptions. Your individual alignments with certain beliefs and associations with certain beliefs shall be influencing of how you express your perception of each individual and of the environment.

Now; in this, it is your interpretation of the energy that you are interacting with that shall generate the physical manifestations. This is the reason, my friend, that it holds such significance that you all as individuals turn your attention to yourselves and allow yourselves an objective awareness of your attention, of your perceptions and of choice. For in this, you all express conflict and confusion in interaction with other individuals, or situations, or circumstances, or even objects if your perception generates outwardly a manifestation that you define as not good or uncomfortable and, many times, even merely different.

But what you do not allow yourselves to recognize is that every manifestation that is generated in your individual physical reality is a projection of an aspect of yourself. You are inputting information in association with the energy of other individuals, but you are outputting a reflection of yourselves, which in actuality is a highly efficient method, so to speak, that you all have incorporated in this physical dimension to offer yourselves a manner in which you may continuously be aware of yourself and what you are generating and what you are expressing, which aspects of beliefs you are aligning with, which aspects of beliefs you are associating with and generating expressions in association with.

FRANK: Well, I’ll have more for you on this later.

ELIAS: Very well!

FRANK: (Laughs) There’s much to think about there. I mean, there’s more I’d like to ask you on this, but again our time is short, so I’ll put that off till next time.

ELIAS: Very well.

FRANK: Two other quick things I have for you. There’s an individual who I’ve known for many, many years, a former employer of mine and I guess I would say a friend also, who lately is very, oh, I don’t know, sort of stand-offish when we meet and doesn’t seem to want to interact. I’m not sure exactly why I’ve created this, so can you maybe shed some light on that for me? (Pause)

ELIAS: And are you allowing yourself to examine the reflection?

FRANK: Well, I guess I really haven’t very effectively allowed myself to examine that, no.

ELIAS: For in this, you are creating a reflection of your own expression, partially in suspicion.

FRANK: In other words, I am suspicious of this other individual?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, as a reflection of your suspicion of yourself in attempting to define within yourself your genuine association with this individual.

FRANK: Can you elaborate on that a little bit? I don’t quite understand that.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, you are suspicious of your own creation of this individual and are attempting to define the nature of the relationship itself which you have generated, and in a manner of speaking once allowing yourself to recognize how you define your relationship with this individual, you may allow yourself to choose whether this is actually what you want to be creating or not.

I am not incorporating this term of ’suspicion’ in a manner of your automatic negative association. I am incorporating this term as a description of a specific type of curiosity, that you are attempting to evaluate what you have actually created rather than moving in the expression of automatic association with this relationship. In a manner of speaking, you have incorporated a perception previously of friendship, and in this time framework you are evaluating and expressing a curious suspicion within self in questioning, ’Is this relationship what I actually define as friendship?’

Once you have allowed yourself to evaluate and offer yourself a clear definition of what you are actually generating in association with this individual, you shall offer yourself the choice of how you shall proceed in what you genuinely want.

FRANK: Okay. But it could be anything I want, it could be friendship, it could be business, it could be...

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: It’s totally up to me what it could be?

ELIAS: Yes!

FRANK: Well, that’s very interesting.

On a related note, and I’m not even sure why I asked you this question, but I have another business associate who’s sort of connected with this first person I asked you about, who’s basically experienced the same thing as I’ve experienced and we’ve even discussed it. Is he going through this for the same reasons or does he have his own reasons for having this experience with this person?

ELIAS: In your terms, the reasons are different.

FRANK: I’m sorry?

ELIAS: In your terms, the reasons are different.

FRANK: The reasons are different, okay, okay.

Last question I have for you here: I have not personally ... well, that’s not the right thing to say. I was going to say that I’ve not personally created any major sort of physical manifestations or catastrophes for our little talk here (Elias laughs) but that one of my children has, but then I caught myself and realized in fact I have. What happened is my daughter backed into a mailbox a few days ago, put a couple of dents in my car. Nothing major, but you know. And I’m just sort of wondering, what was the reason behind this creation?

ELIAS: To allow yourself to objectively address to your association with the value of physical manifestations - to recognize your emphasis that you express in association with value of physical manifestations, as in actuality they are merely projections, and what actually you are moving into in association with value is not the expression of physical manifestations.

FRANK: It didn’t bother me too much.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: So what you’re saying is that this is a way of me sort of communicating to myself that I’m moving in this direction of not valuing physical things as much.

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: That’s interesting. I assume that my daughter had her own reason for doing this...

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: ...and that our joint reasons just sort of came together to serve each of our own purposes.

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: Okay, which kind of gets back to some of what we discussed earlier about how we all create our own reality.

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: Well, that’s enlightening. As always, it’s been a tremendous pleasure and I look forward to speaking with you again soon.

ELIAS: And I also, my friend, and I shall be offering my energy to you in the interim as you continue in your adventure. (Chuckles) And I shall continue to be playful.

FRANK: Good! I look forward to that!

ELIAS: Ha ha! Very well, my friend. As always, I offer you great affection. Au revoir.

FRANK: Goodbye.

Elias departs at 1:30 PM.

(1) Transcriber’s note: This passage seems related to ’Relay the force pattern as a source of tension,’ a dream equation Elias offered to Norm/Stephen in , 12/27/96:

ELIAS: I shall begin by offering an equation. Then you may continue with your questions. You may express thanks to your new friend for delivery of this dream equation, and you may deliver the equation to Stephen for his pondering. The equation is as stated: ’Relay the force pattern as a source of tension.’ ...

This has been relayed to you by one of your new friends as a remnance of a dream. It is a message. The key words to be focusing upon within this equation are relay, force pattern, and tension, for their meaning is not as it appears. Now we shall allow the scientist to engage his scientific ciphering. (Smiling)

(2) ’Batting about the dead mouse’ analogy, from , 12/28/97:

ELIAS: ...But if you are creating of what you believe to be a negative experience - a painful, a fearful, a hurtful experience - you hold to this. You play your game of your cat and mouse; and even as the mouse is dead, you continue to bat with the mouse and play and examine and toss about this dead mouse, for it fascinates you!

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