Friday, October 5, 2001 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Jojo (Callwart)
Elias arrives at 1:43 PM. (Arrival time is 29 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

JOJO: Good afternoon, Elias.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Welcome!

JOJO: Thank you; good to talk to you.

ELIAS: Ha ha! And how shall we proceed?

JOJO: I'd like to start out with the usual: essence family, alignment, orientation, and your opinion of what my essence name is.

ELIAS: Very well, and shall you offer your impression to me first?

JOJO: Of what?

ELIAS: Of all this information.

JOJO: Oh, of all of that information, okay. (Elias chuckles) Family, Sumari.

ELIAS: Continue.

JOJO: Alignment, Tumold.

ELIAS: Correct.

JOJO: Really? And orientation, soft.

ELIAS: Correct.

JOJO: Color ... oh, I didn't mention color. Color! Lavender?

ELIAS: Violet.

JOJO: I'm not sure about essence name. Something that has the letters A, R, T? (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Callwart (CAHL whart).

JOJO: Could you spell that please?

ELIAS: C-A-L-L-W-A-R-T.

JOJO: Thank you! Gosh, there's so much! (Elias laughs)

Can you speak some about the conceptual sense? I'd like some more information about that.

ELIAS: And what are you inquiring of in regard to this sense of conceptualization?

JOJO: Gosh, I'm really not sure how to word it. So we have a concept of, say, a theme. Is a theme like a concept?

ELIAS: It may be. It is dependent upon your direction with this terminology. You may be expressing this term of a theme in relation to a concept, and in this, you may engage your inner sense of conceptualization to be experiencing that concept of theme and therefore offering yourself information concerning the concept.

In the action of engaging conceptualization, you allow yourself to turn your attention in a manner that allows you to become the action of the concept. Therefore in merging with the concept, you become the action of it, and in this manner you offer yourself information concerning this concept.

JOJO: Is a revolution, is that a concept?

ELIAS: In part, for revolutions are engaged in relation to a subject matter, a philosophy and a concept. Therefore, yes, you may view a revolution as a concept.

JOJO: I'd like to ask something personal.

ELIAS: Very well.

JOJO: I had surgery in 1997, and I'd like to know if at that time there was a stepping in of an alternate self? (Pause)

ELIAS: This is not what you would term to be stepping in, but I am understanding of your question. In this, you have allowed temporarily a shifting of positions of aspects of yourself, allowing another aspect to assume the primary position.

JOJO: Is that an aspect from an earlier part of this lifetime?

ELIAS: Let me express to you, you incorporate countless aspects of yourself, that which I have identified as the many yous of you, which are all contained within your individual focus and, in a manner of speaking, are all present continuously. It is merely a situation in which one aspect of you is chosen or designated as the primary aspect. Therefore all of the other aspects of you, the other yous of you, are viewed as recessive, in a manner of speaking. They are expressed, but they may appear to be more latent than the aspect that you recognize and identify as yourself in expression and personality.

At times, you allow another aspect of yourself, another you of you, to move into the primary position. Therefore the manner in which you express yourself may be different, and you may also objectively notice different qualities being expressed that you did not previously recognize.

Now; let me also express to you that it is not uncommon for an individual to move the aspects of self into the primary position repeatedly. Therefore, temporarily in one time framework you may be expressing another aspect of the self that you do not generally express in that position, and you may return your most frequently expressed primary aspect to that position in a continuation of your focus; and if so choosing, within another moment, you may move the same other aspect of yourself into the primary position again. It is dependent upon your individual direction of movement in a particular time framework and which aspect of yourself shall express that movement most efficiently.

In relation to your question concerning whether you have expressed that aspect of yourself previously within your focus, yes.

JOJO: What do y'all over there do for fun? (Elias laughs) I mean, do you do stuff for fun? (Laughing)

ELIAS: I may express to you, my friend, that unlike many of yourselves within your physical dimension, all that I incorporate in action is also an incorporation of fun! Ha ha!

JOJO: (Laughs) Yes, quite unlike those of us in the physical!

ELIAS: I may express to you, engagement of this phenomenon and objectively interacting with each of you is quite fun and playful, even in the moments that it appears to you to be quite serious. For in actuality, my engagement of interaction with you all is QUITE amusing! (Laughs with Jojo)

JOJO: Okay! Is there some type of a generational theme for young people, the young people who are just coming into adulthood, like in the '60s there was the flower children? Is there a generational theme like that, for that age group that is now in this timeframe?

ELIAS: Not necessarily. This, in actuality, is dependent upon the collective expression of what you identify as any particular generation, so to speak, and whether they choose to be creating a collective identification concerning themselves as a group.

In this timeframe presently, although individuals that you view as expressing a particular age group do incorporate many similarities in their movement and their awareness, they also express an open awareness of their individuality, being identified not necessarily as an expression of separation to the degree that other individuals express separation, but rather in a recognition of their ability and desire to be directing of themselves in the expression of their individuality, and not creating the expression of dependence of their choices upon the expressions or choices of other individuals but recognizing their individual freedom and ability to create in directing of themselves. Therefore, in relation to an expression of identity as a group, this moves in almost a contrary type of expression and identification to their movement in relation to this shift in consciousness.

JOJO: I don't understand that.

ELIAS: Within the generation that you identify as flower children - ha ha! - these individuals moved in an expression within a particular time framework of choosing to be identifying themselves as a group. This, in your terms, was an expression of a beginning movement in a recognition of a lack of separation, a lack of separation from each other, from all that you create within your physical dimension. This was the beginning expression of a lack of separation, which was defined through an identification of a collective, so to speak, a group.

In this time framework presently, those individuals that you identify as young do not express this type of choice, for their awareness moves in a fuller expression of a lack of separation but also moves in a fuller awareness objectively that they are directing of themselves individually. Therefore, their attention is expressed more in association with the individual, and therefore [they] do not identify themselves in terminology in association with a group. Are you understanding?

JOJO: Yes, thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

JOJO: This shift in consciousness, does it have a correlation with one of the three genders? Do you understand what I'm asking?

ELIAS: You incorporate two genders within this physical dimension; you incorporate three orientations.

JOJO: Does it have a correlation with an orientation?

ELIAS: Not necessarily, but it does correlate to an energy expression of gender.

JOJO: So going from a more male expression to more female expression?

ELIAS: Yes.

JOJO: There's no "other" expression? (Laughs, and Elias laughs) 'Cause sometimes, you know, I kinda feel like "other"!

ELIAS: (Laughs) This is an expression in relation to what I have clarified in the expressions of orientations. All three orientations are participating in this shift in consciousness equally.

JOJO: So, on the events of September 11: I know you've had a lot of questions about this lately. But the events of September 11, one of the first things that I noticed was that there was this strong pull, if I may use that term, between the male and the female in the events that happened in New York City. I'm not sure what I'm trying to ask with this, but...

ELIAS: I may express to you, this is quite observant. For, this is another layer of what is being expressed in this movement in association with this mass event that you have all participated within.

This mass event has been created, as I have stated previously, in association with your movement collectively in the insertion of this shift in consciousness into your objective officially accepted reality. You have, in a manner of speaking, allowed in this mass event a shattering of tremendously thickly held mass beliefs, in which you have shaken the foundations of these beliefs to allow yourselves the examination of them - not to be eliminating them, but to be recognizing their influence in automatic responses and therefore allow yourselves new freedoms in choice, in choosing how you shall be expressing yourselves in relation to your belief systems and not being dictated to by them.

In this, one of the expressions in relation to the movement of this shift in consciousness is also an allowance to view how you associate with the energy of male and female gender and the imbalance that is expressed in those associations, allowing you to choose to shift your perceptions and incorporate more of a balance.

Now; I may also express to you, my friend, quite definitely, in any of these emergences of awareness in association with beliefs, generally the manner in which you allow yourselves to address to the beliefs is to be creating movement in which you present an obvious expression of them.

Now; as I have stated, how shall you address to the expression of being a victim if you do not recognize that you create that? Therefore, you offer yourselves an experience in which you view yourselves to be a victim. Or how shall you address to the imbalance of energy concerning male and female gender if you are not presenting the experience to yourselves and recognizing that this is being expressed not by other individuals but by yourself?

You draw to your attention expressions that you choose individually to address to, and in actuality, you create this movement quite efficiently. If you are expressing a particular alignment with a belief or a particular association with a belief, and you are not yet recognizing your own expression of it individually but you incorporate the desire to be recognizing, that you may allow yourself more of an ease and less trauma in association with this shift in consciousness, you shall present to yourself an opportunity to view those expressions or associations that, in a manner of speaking, may have been disguised or hidden from you previously in your objective awareness.

JOJO: Regional Area 4, I'd like to ask some questions about that.

ELIAS: Very well.

JOJO: Is that where, once an essence goes through, or a focus has gone through the transition and has examined their lifetime and their beliefs and they've gone through that enough, do they then have a choice - or, well, I guess it would be "have a choice" - but do they stay there in Regional Area 3? Do they connect with their essence, go back into their essence, merge with their essence in Regional Area 3, or is that done in Regional Area 4? And if they do that, is that ... then they move into Regional Area 4, do they still have essences that can be physical or not? That's a lot for one question; that's about four questions! (Laughs)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! Let me explain to you, my friend. In movement into nonphysical transition, the action is to be not necessarily examining beliefs but to be shedding the belief systems and also the objective expression of awareness, for the objective awareness is unnecessary in nonphysical expressions of consciousness.

Now; as to your question of the movement of the focus, in your terms from that point it is not an action of mergence or absorbing back into essence, for you have not been non-essence (laughs) prior to transition. This is a matter of attention.

Within the physical expression of this physical dimension, you have created an action of separating attentions; therefore, you view this focus as singular. In actuality, it is not. It is merely a direction of attention. Therefore, in actuality, all of essence is expressed in your physical experience within this physical dimension, but you are merely paying attention to one expression, one direction in a particular time framework. This is the manner in which you have designed this particular physical dimension, in association with time and a specific movement and creation of it, and a specific singularity of attention in association with time.

Now; once moving through the action of transition nonphysically, you shed the expression of objective awareness, and therefore your attention is no longer singular. (Humorously) Therefore, it is not a matter of reincorporating into the mothership of essence, so to speak - ha ha ha! (Jojo laughs) - but rather the recognition of the lack of singularity of attention, and the allowance of your natural state within nonphysical expression to be recognizing all of your attentions simultaneously and allowing the individual unique expression of each attention, but also knowing that they are all you.

Now; in your terms, at that point it is the choice of each attention what direction they may incorporate. In association with myself, as an example, what you interact with, generally speaking, in the phenomenon of this energy exchange are several attentions which are focused in Regional Area 4 and [which] project an energy through layers of consciousness to engage an objective physical interaction with each of you. These attentions that you identify as Elias are a very few attentions of this essence. There are countless attentions of this essence, and there is an awareness of all of them simultaneously.

Therefore, what I may express to you is that a particular regional area of consciousness is not a designation of a level. It is a designation of an area of consciousness that may be associated with particular actions, explorations, movements; and in each of these designated areas of consciousness, so to speak, attentions choose to move in those directions in association with their choice of exploration and what may be translated in your terms as what they choose to be engaging as fun or playfulness in their fascination.

Therefore, an individual focus, so to speak, such as yourself, may choose to be disengaging from this physical focus, may be engaging the action of transition, shedding beliefs and the objective awareness, and where shall it move to thusly? This is your choice: wherever you choose to move in your exploration in playfulness and fun, of discovery, in whatever subject matter you are so choosing.

Now; you may be choosing to refocus that attention in association another physical dimension or you may not. You are entirely unlimited in your choice.

JOJO: So is that one of the things that's happening with this shift in consciousness, that in the physical we are moving more in line with that?

ELIAS: Yes, for you are widening your awareness and dropping the veils of separation.

JOJO: Is that why so many people are de-manifesting their jobs, so they can see their choices better? (Laughing, and Elias laughs) I know that's a problem with a lot of people, that they have jobs that they don't like and so they ... this mass action of a lot of people getting laid off their jobs. That offers them lots of choices...

ELIAS: Quite.

JOJO: ...and something different.

ELIAS: Quite, and also offers the opportunity in choice to be directing of themselves, to be paying attention to self, to be familiarizing themselves with themselves, and to be allowing themselves the choice to be directing of themselves in their own individual choices, rather than continuing in the expression of allowing other individuals to dictate their choices to them.

Many, many, many individuals are creating this type of expression, and this also is quite in alignment with this shift in consciousness: a redefining of your reality, a recognition that your responsibility is to self, not to expressions outside of yourself, and you do in actuality create every moment, every expression of your individual reality and therefore you also hold the choice of what you shall create. You are not limited by the beliefs that are expressed en masse within your society. You are HIGHLY creative beings, and you have also created an exceptionally diverse and fertile physical dimension in which to play, and in this, you incorporate tremendous choice in how you may create your reality. It is merely a question of offering yourself permission to create it. (Chuckles)

JOJO: Okay! So what is my intent this focus? (Elias laughs) A lot of what you've probably already covered.

ELIAS: I may pose to you the challenge, my friend, to allow yourself, first of all, to investigate, to discover what you began this conversation with this day, the theme. Allow yourself to investigate and to explore the entirety of your individual focus and discover what has been the THEME of your movement in this focus which directs your experiences.

JOJO: Okay, I'll work on that. (Laughs with Elias) Well, I guess that's probably all my questions. But I would like to know essence names and all that kind of information for my children.

ELIAS: Very well.

JOJO: My daughter, Teresa, her essence name, family and alignment, and orientation?

ELIAS: And your impression as to essence families?

JOJO: Tumold.

ELIAS: And?

JOJO: Ilda?

ELIAS: Reverse.

JOJO: (Laughs) That's interesting. Orientation, soft.

ELIAS: Common.

JOJO: Common? Really. My son Scott ... oh, wait, wait. Teresa, essence name?

ELIAS: Correct. Essence name, Polly, P-O-L-L-Y.

JOJO: Oh, how cute! Okay, Scott: essence name?

ELIAS: Essence name, Harry, H-A-R-R-Y.

JOJO: And family and alignment?

ELIAS: And your impression?

JOJO: Ohhh!

ELIAS: (Laughs) Do you anticipate that I shall not challenge you, my friend? Ha ha!

JOJO: (Laughing) Yeah, I kinda figured you would! Although I don't really know what all these other families mean, I know I do at some level. But anyway, Scott, Gramada. How do you pronounce that?

ELIAS: Gramada.

JOJO: Is that family?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

JOJO: And alignment ... hmm, he likes orange. He likes the color orange! (Elias laughs) That's Gramada right? Orange?

ELIAS: Yes.

JOJO: Alignment ... gosh, I don't know.

ELIAS: Sumari.

JOJO: And his orientation?

ELIAS: Common.

JOJO: My husband, Charlie, essence name, please?

ELIAS: Essence name, Shareed, S-H-A-R-E-E-D (schar REED).

JOJO: Oh, that's pretty. Family, Ilda? Is he an Ilda, too?

ELIAS: Essence family, Sumafi; alignment, Ilda.

JOJO: Is he common orientation also?

ELIAS: Yes.

JOJO: And what about ... I don't know what you call it, but is it thought? No. I don't know your terminology all that well - the emotional or thought or religious or political?

ELIAS: Correct.

JOJO: What was Teresa, what would Teresa be in those?

ELIAS: Emotional.

JOJO: And Scott? Harry! (Laughs) Happy Harry!

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Emotional also.

JOJO: Then Shareed; I like that name.

ELIAS: Political.

JOJO: Really! Wow, that's a surprise. And mine?

ELIAS: Emotional.

JOJO: Anything else that you ... well, I've got some Game things. Are we still doing the Game?

ELIAS: Quite.

JOJO: Okay! Do I only get one?

ELIAS: Yes.

JOJO: Ohhh! (Elias laughs) For trees - I have trees a lot in my life - Milumet, the Giant Sequoia?

ELIAS: Acceptable!

JOJO: (Laughing) What, no "one point"?

ELIAS: (Laughs) Ah, and within the expressions of your beliefs, my friend, I may express to you to try harder! Ha ha ha ha! Not!

JOJO: Not! (Both laugh) One other thing: I got the name Benjamin Murdock. Is that an alternate focus of mine?

ELIAS: Another focus of yourself, yes.

JOJO: Was he an inventor? Or the friend of an inventor?

ELIAS: I may express to you that the individual fancies himself as an inventor.

JOJO: (Laughs with Elias) Okay! And is that focus in the time framework of the late 1600s, early 1700s in America?

ELIAS: Late 1700s.

JOJO: And the area, in Massachusetts?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

JOJO: "Fancies himself!" (Laughing, and Elias laughs)

ELIAS: Quite!

JOJO: No Edison, though, huh?

ELIAS: Not quite, although quite creative and imaginative. (Chuckles)

JOJO: I'm back at that conceptual stuff again! There's stuff I would like to understand about it, but I don't know how to put it into words.

ELIAS: Allow me to express to you, my friend, allow yourself to incorporate practice with this sense of conceptualization as you explore the theme of your focus as your intent.

JOJO: This conceptualization, is that a movement?

ELIAS: Yes, it is an action. It is the allowance of yourself to become the action in your awareness, to move your awareness into the action of the concept. In this, if you are so choosing and directing your attention in this sense of conceptualization in relation to the theme of your individual focus and becoming the action of the theme, you allow yourself the expression of information to identify what your intent is in this focus.

JOJO: I'll have to hear that on the tape 'cause I just went off into la-la land. (Elias laughs with Jojo) I'm sure it got in there, somewhere! It's there.

Well, I think our time's about up. I know that I talked to Mary quite a bit before the session started, and I don't want to tax her body.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! I shall be compliant, my friend, but I shall also express to you it is unnecessary to be incorporating personal responsibility for Michael.

JOJO: (Laughs) I won't worry about it then.

ELIAS: Very well. To you I offer great encouragement, and I extend my invitation to you that we meet again and incorporate playfulness together futurely. I shall also be continuing to express my energy to you in fun. Ha ha ha ha!

JOJO: Okay! I appreciate that!

ELIAS: Perhaps I shall also incorporate a slight energy of tickling, that you may be aware in moments of excessive seriousness.

JOJO: (Jojo laughs) I just made the comment to Mary that "serious" is a "wirty dird." (Elias chuckles)

Have you been playing with my water in my house? (Elias laughs) I've noticed a lot of, uh, flow problems.

ELIAS: This may not necessarily be perceived as a problem but rather a flow. Ha ha!

JOJO: (Laughs) Okay.

ELIAS: I express to you tremendous affection, my friend, and anticipate our next meeting.

JOJO: I do, too.

ELIAS: To you in lovingness, au revoir.

JOJO: Au revoir to you. Thank you so much.

Elias departs at 2:43 PM.

(1) Jojo's note: I was having a hard time formulating this question and still didn't ask exactly what I wanted to ask!

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