Tuesday, May 29, 2001 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Frank (Ulra)
Elias arrives at 10:19 AM. (Arrival time is 18 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning, Ulra!

FRANK: Good morning! How are you?

ELIAS: As always, and yourself?

FRANK: Oh, just fine today. (Elias chuckles) Nice to talk to you again!

ELIAS: And what interesting adventures have you been creating?

FRANK: Oh, I've got a couple to tell you about. But first I want to tell you, I saw you on TV last week.

ELIAS: Ah! (Chuckling) And express to myself how you chose to manifest THAT expression.

FRANK: (Laughs) I don't know, but on one of the cable channels there was a biography of Oscar Wilde!

ELIAS: And therefore you assess that you are offering yourself the complete information concerning Elias, in this one manifestation! Ha ha ha!

FRANK: (Both laugh) No, but that one was quite a character.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! As are they all!

FRANK: I guess so; that is true, isn't it? Anyway, it was quite interesting because I had heard of him but never really knew much about him, and so ordinarily I wouldn't have watched, but I thought I should check this one out.

ELIAS: (Very humorously) How very disappointing that this focus is so much more UNKNOWN than was intended! Ha ha ha ha! (Frank laughs) How shall I bask in my own glory if no one is paying attention!

FRANK: Well, I wasn't before, but I am now. (Elias laughs with Frank)

Anyway, on to the adventure here. First of all, let me ask you about something that happened a few days ago that I think was kind of interesting. I went to a hockey game in a stadium, and a guy came to sit next to me that was enormous; he must have weighed 300 pounds. At first I was getting like, "Well, he's so large and he's kind of taking up his seat as well as part of mine, too," and my first reaction was irritation. I was unhappy about it. Then I thought, "Maybe this is something that will help me to learn to accept people," and that sort of thing, and so I sort of shifted my attitude towards one of acceptance. All of a sudden somehow it seemed like he encroached less upon me, and shortly after he just moved and made quite a bit of room. So I am wondering, did I analyze this correctly in terms of what was going on there?

ELIAS: What you have offered to yourself is an example of shifting or altering your perception and therefore also altering the objective reality which is being presented.

FRANK: Good! It seemed quite effective at the time, and I was kind of pleased with myself for sort of figuring this out pretty quickly and shifting my perception.

ELIAS: Quite, and offering yourself the opportunity to objectively view and pay attention to what you are creating, and therefore also offering yourself validation in relation to your actual ability to be affecting of your reality.

FRANK: Right. Now, I noticed that he was wearing a blue shirt. Does this have anything to do with you? (Laughs)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! I may express to you that I have engaged no participation in this action other than observance!

FRANK: Okay, good. I really didn't think so (Elias laughs), but I thought I would check anyway.

Next, you asked about what sorts of things I've created. Well, one of the physical manifestations I created about three weeks ago was I guess you would call it a car accident and that, but it was a totally self-created one, where I tried to squeeze my car out of a tight spot and I ended up crunching the door in a pole in my driveway. (Elias chuckles). I thought pretty hard about this one - at least somewhat about this one - you know, what was the reason for this manifestation? I can't seem to figure it out. So, perhaps you can help me with that.

ELIAS: (Chuckling) In observing your experience surrounding this event that you created, what is your impression in relation to this event, but not merely the event, [but also] other expressions that you were creating in that time framework?

FRANK: Well, I'm not sure this is responsive to your question, but let me try if I can here. Number one, I was in a hurry; I could have avoided the whole thing had I not been in such a hurry. Number two, I was trying to squeeze through a tight place, so I feel like somehow this might be a metaphor for what was going on in other places in my life. That's about as far as I got thinking about it.

ELIAS: And I may offer to you that this assessment is correct, in actuality. What holds significance in this experience is the direction of attention and listening to yourself and your communication to yourself.

Now; what you present to yourself in this event and this imagery is a recognition, first of all, that you were creating an action of "pushing" yourself, and in this you also were offering yourself an awareness and communication of the potential of what you may engage in objective imagery in NOT listening to yourself.

I may express to you, in this now, viewing your energy and your awareness in that moment, you did offer yourself a brief recognition of what you were creating prior to the creation. This is not expressed in thoughts of, "I shall be creating damaging effects to my vehicle if I continue," but I may identify to you that you did hold a brief recognition that you were offering yourself a communication, but you were not paying attention. For you chose to be turning your attention in the direction of pushing yourself, and therefore obtained your attention in creating this event.

Now; the communication that was offered was an impression. Impressions are presented differently from an emotional communication or from other communications. At times, an impression may be translated initially into a feeling, although the impression itself is not a feeling, but may be translated initially into a feeling. It may be translated into a type of sensing of an energy or of an event, a sensing of movement that you are beginning to be creating.

Many individuals interpret some impressions as a communication in a type of sensing concerning a future event. This may be within a short time framework, or it may be in relation to a longer time framework. It may be within minutes, it may be within hours, it may be within days, so to speak, but there is an interpretation of a sense of an impending action.

You did offer yourself an impression, but continued in the movement that you had begun, anyway. This was an opportunity for you to practice paying attention, once again, to your own communications with yourself, but not in an emotional communication - in the communication of impressions.

In this, I may express to you not to be discounting yourself that you were not paying attention to the impression, for as individuals begin movement in listening to their own impressions that they offer to themselves, many times you do not pay attention, and this offers you an objective event that you may view as a consequence - although it is not a consequence - and this validates the communication of the impression itself. For what it validates is that you did offer yourself a communication and that you did recognize it, regardless of whether you choose to be paying attention and acting in relation to that communication. You do validate to yourself that you did offer yourself a communication, which futurely becomes helpful in your allowance of yourself to be more clearly recognizing those types of communications.

Now; your assessment of the imagery symbolically in relation to your movement in attempting to "squeeze through" certain areas within your focus is also accurate, for at times you do create this type of movement of attempting to squeeze through an action or an interaction or an issue that you are addressing to, rather than relaxing your energy and allowing that free-flow which creates more of an ease in moving into acceptance.

Therefore, what may be significant in viewing this type of imagery and this situation that you have created is that when you are not paying attention to self, many times you create actions that shall not merely gain your attention but may gain your attention in a manner that is unpleasant.

FRANK: Okay. (Pause)

ELIAS: I may acknowledge to you, my friend, as always, you do create quite interesting and objectively obvious events in your movement. Ha ha ha ha!

FRANK: See, I assumed this sort of thing is common. Is it some preference of my essence? (Laughs)

ELIAS: (Laughs) Not as common as you perceive, for your perception is that you create in like manner to all other individuals. You have chosen a flamboyancy in your objective creations to gain your attention, which are quite interesting in their expression of creativity! Ha ha ha!

FRANK: Well, at least it's finally starting to work. (Elias laughs) Before we get off this, let's just talk about one point that you brought up here. In terms of relaxing energy, you said instead of trying to squeeze through, just relax my energy and allow a free-flow into acceptance. How do I relax my energy?

ELIAS: By recognizing and noticing initially how you are creating tension, noticing in the now the movement of your physical body consciousness. For in your individual expression in your focus, you create a very consistent expression of tension in relation to your physical body consciousness, which is in actuality an excellent communication to yourself that may be easily recognized objectively.

Therefore, in addressing to you individually, as you allow yourself to be paying attention to yourself in the now - both - you may also notice, first of all, the moment in which you begin creating an actual physical tension within your body consciousness. This shall be your first indication. And as you recognize THAT tension, you may address first to that expression and intentionally allow yourself to relax your physical body [and] create an ease of breath. For I shall express to you, the concept of allowing yourself what you term to be deep and full breaths is not an expression of beliefs concerning how this shall be affecting of your physical body consciousness and its energy expression in tension, for the action of this type of breathing automatically influences a relaxation of your physical muscles and bones within your body consciousness. It is quite difficult within physical focus to be continuing to hold tension and create deep breathing simultaneously.

Now; as you allow yourself to be relaxing of your physical body consciousness, you may thusly turn your attention to your energy expression, and in this you may simply allow yourself to identify what you are creating within the moment that is influencing this tension, and as you recognize what you are creating within the moment, merely express to yourself STOP. LISTEN to your communication, and allow yourself to relax your energy. Offer yourself a stop-point, and this stop-point shall automatically be influencing of allowing yourself to relax your energy field and projection. Are you understanding?

FRANK: Yes, I think I am. In this regard, would following practices like meditation, transcendental meditations, something like that, be helpful? (Pause) I realize that's not something you do at the moment that you have the problem, but would that generally be helpful to reduce the tension?

ELIAS: In response to you, individually, I may express to you, yes, for this may offer you a practice in time frameworks in which you are not creating an event which is influenced by that tension, and it may allow you more of a familiarity with intentional relaxation, which thusly, in the moments that you are creating a tension, you may allow yourself more easily and more freely movement into an intentional relaxation, for you have allowed yourself to become more familiar with that action in other time frameworks. What you practice is what becomes automatic, my friend.

FRANK: Yes, just like many other things in life.

ELIAS: Quite, and you are correct.

FRANK: Great. Next, I would like to ask you about something that occurred in my business since we last talked. Shortly after our last conversation, a rather large client that had just agreed to do business with my company changed their mind and decided not to. So I was sort of curious as to how I created this and why, and what were the motivations on both sides. What happened there? (Pause)

ELIAS: And as always, first of all, I shall inquire to you what your impression is concerning this interaction.

FRANK: Well, let's see. First of all, there are sort of three sides to the thing - there's myself, there's my partner, and there's the client. From my side, I don't know, maybe it's ... I don't know if I would call it fear of success or a surprise at the success, but sort of a non-acceptance of the fact that things are going so well. In terms of my partner, I think it may have been almost sort of the same thing a little bit. In terms of the client, I don't really know.

ELIAS: Now; once again this is an opportunity for you to familiarize yourself with your energy, recognize the difference between your energy and other individuals' energies, and be paying attention to the communication that you yourself are offering to yourself. For I may express to you, your assessment of your partner's expression or movement is correct. Your assessment of your own expression is not correct. This is an automatic assumption that you have attached to yourself, for this is familiar to you within your expressions.

FRANK: But not the case here?

ELIAS: No. In this situation, I may express to you that you have in actuality offered yourself a recognition of your partner's hesitation, and have created your own responsiveness in this situation in relation to that expression and in relation to your own hesitation, but not for the same reason.

Your hesitation was expressed in an underlying recognition of the potential for conflict in future interaction with what you identify as the client in relation to yourself and the partner. Your translation of that was to be identifying within yourself that you were creating the same expression as your partner, but in actuality you merely assumed the expression of your partner in a camouflage, so to speak, in not recognizing or understanding objectively your own communication in hesitation. In a manner of speaking, you are expressing to yourself inwardly a warning concerning your recognition of future conflict in relation to this interaction.

FRANK: That's very interesting, because actually that's pretty close to my objective assessment.

ELIAS: Correct. Now; let me express to you, my friend, this also is an opportunity for you to view how some aspects of your reality are not always what they appear to be. For, the objective imagery may appear to be an absolute, and in actuality it is not, and it is quite changeable.

In this, what you may initially assess objectively as being a movement or an interaction that may be beneficial or good in your terms, as you pay attention to your own communications you may recognize that this is not necessarily what it appears to be, initially objectively.

FRANK: You're talking now about the new client coming in, when I was pleased that this client was going to be with us.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: Okay. (Pause) Actually, I do think I sort of recognized that objectively.

ELIAS: Yes! And this is what I am acknowledging to you, that you have offered yourself some recognition objectively, and therefore have created this action and the turning of the interaction in which the client recedes and chooses not to be engaging your services. This is not the action of the client which has been created - this is YOUR creation that you have set into motion in response to your own communication within yourself.

FRANK: Well, I was disappointed nonetheless.

ELIAS: Ah ha ha! Your disappointment is expressed in relation to your want, for you want to be creating this type of expression in relation to a client, so to speak, but you have also narrowed your viewing in your identification of merely one client, and now the expression which also influences the disappointment is your questioning of your ability to be creating another client which shall express what you DO want.

FRANK: Ah, yes, there you go. Now you're onto something there! (Elias laughs) So, let's go into that a little bit. What I was wondering is, has this changed my perception since our last conversation? I feel like it has.

ELIAS: Yes, in allowing you to be more aware objectively of what you are creating and how you are creating and paying more attention to your own movement, and therefore also allowing yourself to recognize, in your terms, more quickly the moments in which you are questioning your ability to be creating what you want.

This was not a failure. This action, in actuality, was a validation to yourself in listening to your own communications, and also an opportunity to recognize the communication of disappointment and what you are expressing to yourself in that emotion of disappointment, and therefore offering yourself an empowerment of choice, knowing that you have created this situation and [that] you also hold the ability to draw to yourself another client, so to speak, which shall NOT engage conflict and SHALL create what you want.

FRANK: Actually, it's interesting because pretty shortly after that a new one did sort of pop up. I mean, it's not a done deal yet, but it's moving in that direction. (Elias laughs) Do you want to pull out your crystal ball and tell me where I'm at with that one?

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! I may be expressing to you presently the crystal ball is malfunctioning, for the energy being projected by yourself is interfering with its transmission! Ha ha ha! HA HA! And this is directly concerning your choices and your allowance of yourself to genuinely boldly go forth, my friend, and trust yourself in your ability to be creating precisely what you want!

FRANK: (Laughing) Okay!

ELIAS: Ha ha! Assume your flag and stake your claim, my friend! Ha ha!

FRANK: As soon as I figure out how to do that, I will!

ELIAS: (Laughing) Become the warrior and conquer the territory! Ha ha ha!

FRANK: Should I get a gun? (Laughing)

ELIAS: I am not advocating of destruction, merely conquering the territory! (Laughs)

FRANK: (Laughing) Okay. The last time we talked, we talked a lot about perception and beliefs, and you talked about the things that influenced perceptions. It wasn't just beliefs - well, some of this you've said before - and how perception is influenced by information received by all avenues of communication. Can you talk about some of those things that are non-belief related, and what they are and how they influence us and that sort of thing, and what the ramifications of that is?

ELIAS: You engage many avenues of communication, as I have stated previously: your outer senses, your inner senses, your impulses, your impressions, your body consciousness, your emotions. None of these expressions in themselves are beliefs. They are avenues of communication that you have created in this particular dimension that offer you input of information.

Now; your beliefs influence the input, for your beliefs are a type of coloring of the information that you offer to yourself. They are, in a manner of speaking, a type of lens that, yes, you do filter the information through these lenses of beliefs, but the communications in themselves are not aspects of belief systems. They are not belief systems, they are...

FRANK: Okay, but what ... I'm having difficulty phrasing this question, but I guess what I'm trying to say is, the sense data that comes into me, what creates this sense data? What I'm trying to get here is that if my perceptions are what really create my reality, and if my perceptions are influenced by something I see in front of me ... let's say for example, am I creating this thing that I see? I mean, I'm getting the concept of free will and control of reality. Does that make sense?

ELIAS: Yes. In actuality, it is a type of circle, for you are creating what you see, but you are also engaging your physical sense of sight, which is creating an input of information, which you translate within your consciousness and create a projection of objective imagery through your perception, which thusly is what you see.

Therefore, in actuality it is not a situation of, in this example, that you physically see a tree with your sense of vision and input that information and thusly create imagery through the translation of your perception and therefore project a tree. What you engage in relation to your senses is energy - a recognition of energy that you and other individuals are participating in, in a configuration of links of consciousness together. Your visual sense inputs that information to you, and you filter that information through a lens of your beliefs, also coupling with other communications that you are engaging in the moment. These are offered to the mechanism of your perception, and your perception creates the actual physical projection outwardly of the tree.

FRANK: I'm going to have to see the transcript on that one! (Laughs)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! Let me express to you, my friend, you are not co-creating reality with other individuals, as I have stated previously, for this implies that you are creating only part of your reality and that other individuals may be creating other parts of your reality, and this is quite incorrect. But you ARE participating together in the creation of your physical dimension and your officially accepted reality in the lack of separation. Therefore, there is interaction, but the interaction is in energy.

The physical aspect of your reality is YOUR creation. Therefore in the example of the tree, your actual understanding objectively is that you open your eyes, you engage your visual sense, and you see a tree. In actuality, what is occurring in a simultaneous manner is that you are recognizing a configuration of energy that you are participating with in the construction of moving links of consciousness together to create a particular configuration of energy, of consciousness. This is the input. Subsequently, the information is translated and is projected through the perception, and THAT creates the tree and what you see physically.

FRANK: Well, again, I will need to listen to the tape and...

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! This is the reason that your tree and another individual's tree may actually visually appear similar, but not entirely the same.

FRANK: We're seeing the same tree; we're both looking at the same...

ELIAS: Correct! You are both inputting information through a particular sense concerning energy configurations, but your translation of that, once projected through your perception, shall be slightly different.

FRANK: Now, you're saying it MAY not look the same, but it sounds to me like they would almost never look exactly the same, but nobody would ever know that.

ELIAS: Correct. Although I may express to you - with no intention of further confusion (grins) - BUT at times, you may be engaging your empathic sense also, for you do not engage merely one sense in one moment. You engage many communications in every moment, and in a particular moment you may be engaging your empathic sense and merging with another individual, and in that situation, what you view as the tree MAY be the same.

FRANK: Okay, it MIGHT be.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: All right, I will ... I'm joking, but I do want to listen to the tape and think about that, and maybe have some more questions next time we talk.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Very well.

FRANK: A couple other quick things here before we depart. I wanted to ask you about a dream I had last night. I don't remember much of it, but what I do recall is that I was at a party. It seemed like a rather large party, a lot of people there, at a very nice, fancy expensive home. Then all of a sudden, it was like we were in the middle of a war, and there were bombs being dropped and everyone was kind of running around. I may be getting this wrong, because it's very fuzzy and the dream is leaving me at this point, but it did happen last night and I was curious to know what the interpretation of that dream is.

ELIAS: I may express to you, you are offering yourself imagery concerning another focus.

FRANK: Oh, really?

ELIAS: Yes, and I may be acknowledging of you, expressing my congratulations, for you have been attempting to allow yourself this type of expression and concentrating some aspects of your attention and energy in this direction, and you have accomplished.

This is in actuality being lent, in a manner of speaking, a tremendous expression of energy through movement of other individuals en masse, for I may express to you in this present time framework there are extreme numbers, in your terms, of individuals that are allowing themselves a connection objectively with a specific time framework and a specific movement. This imagery that you have presented to yourself is, in actuality, a viewing of a focus that you participate within in the time framework of your second World War.

FRANK: Really? And where did this take place?

ELIAS: And your impression, presently?

FRANK: Germany?

ELIAS: I may express to you, this aspect of the viewing of the event was expressed in the location of Austria. Now, my friend, you have opened the door, and you may allow yourself more of an ease in moving through the door to be investigating.

FRANK: Okay, but let me ask you something here. It's funny you bring this up, because you say that I've been doing a lot in this area but objectively I haven't, although I've had thoughts about it. So, this is all going on subjectively?

ELIAS: No, for objectively you have been creating a desire to be moving in this direction.

FRANK: Yes, I have.

ELIAS: Therefore, the objective and the subjective are moving in harmony, for your desire objectively is also creating an opening for you to be creating this type of movement.

FRANK: Yes, yes, you're right. I mean, I do know I have had that desire, and I've thought about it some lately, but I just hadn't done anything; but I think that gets into other things we've talked about in the past. (Elias chuckles) Well, interesting. I'll try to explore that one.

ELIAS: Very well!

FRANK: Two other quick things: my oldest daughter - it's sort of a long story - but in a show of school spirit, she dyed her hair blue (Elias chuckles) and actually did this several times, and then found she couldn't remove it; apparently she didn't follow the instructions properly on the dye kit or whatever. I'm curious as to what is going on with her subjectively on that. (Elias looks extremely amused at this question.)

ELIAS: (Chuckles) I may express to you that she may be paying attention to this imagery that she has created, for she has also engaged curiosity in my input in relation to her creations, but has also expressed within her energy a skepticism as to my existence in reality. (Frank laughs) Therefore, this is not a permanent situation, but the reality of the blue is not what YOU define as imagination. Ha ha!

FRANK: Now, explain that. What do you mean, not what I define as imagination?

ELIAS: Within physical focus, in your physical dimension, for the most part individuals define imagination as non-reality and merely the creation of myth or fantasy.

FRANK: In other words, she ... well, first of all, is she sort of tuned in on what you and I are doing here? I mean, did I understand you right?

ELIAS: Yes, but does not necessarily accept the reality of this interaction.

FRANK: It's all subjective for her, right?

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: It's not objective.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: That's very interesting.

ELIAS: But I have been interactive with this individual, and in that interaction there is expressed a skepticism as to the reality of the existence of this essence. Therefore, (humorously) I have merely offered a slight expression of energy to be emphasizing the reality of energies that may be unseen, but this is not to say that they are not present! HA HA! And she may be assured that this is not permanent. (Frank laughs) Ha ha ha ha! And NOT a coincidence to be choosing this particular color!

FRANK: (Laughs) You know, I never thought of that until now!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! Therefore you may express to her, if you are so choosing - or not - she may accept my introduction. HA!

FRANK: Well, maybe I should see about introducing you to her objectively. (Elias laughs with Frank) I don't know if she's ready for that!

ELIAS: This is the choice of the individual, my friend.

FRANK: Well, right, it would be her choice, is what you're saying.

ELIAS: Correct. (Laughs)

FRANK: But you inked my daughter's hair blue! (Laughing)

ELIAS: I consistently introduce myself to individuals prior to our actual objective meetings. (Grins)

FRANK: Interesting! (Elias laughs) Now, what about Lizella?

ELIAS: And what is your question?

FRANK: Are you talking to her, too? Are you communicating with her also?

ELIAS: I may express to you that I have been interactive with all of the individuals in the unit that you identify as family.

FRANK: That's very interesting! That's quite a way to close here. (Elias laughs) As always, thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome, my friend. I may express to you my pleasure in our interaction this morning.

FRANK: Same here! (Elias laughs) And I look forward to talking to you again soon.

ELIAS: Very well, and I shall be anticipating our next entertainment presentment! Ha ha ha!

FRANK: Very well! Thank you.

ELIAS: To you, in friendship and great affection, au revoir.

FRANK: Good-bye.

Elias departs at 11:22 AM.

(1) Originally stated as "In observing your experience surrounding this event that you created, what is your impression in relation to this event, but not merely the event, and other expressions that you were creating in that time framework?"

(2) Bobbi's note: I think I speak for most of us when I say thank you, Elias, for not turning our hair blue as an introduction!

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