Thursday, April 12, 2001 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and a new participant, George
Elias arrives at 12:30 PM. (Arrival time is 24 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good day!

GEORGE: Good day! I'm very grateful and honored to be able to speak with you.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) And what shall we be discussing this day?

GEORGE: I have a series of questions which I may stray from. So, I'll just start with them, okay?

ELIAS: Very well.

GEORGE: I'm going to make statements about where I think I am. I've read a number of your transcripts, and I think I understand a good deal. I am in a soft focus, a final focus as an observer, not necessary to produce children, with a task that might include overcoming the illusion of what we call "material physicality" and learning to operate in the now on this planet, and also to demonstrate and develop the concept of what might be called radical shape-shifting in the realm of healing and transcending aging. Am I on target, or is it a lot of nonsense?

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha! I may express to you my friend, you are not offering nonsense! (Laughing)

In this, I am acknowledging of you, and your awareness of your intent in this particular focus and the direction which you have chosen to be exploring, and your understanding of it.

GEORGE: The next one has to do with the use of the words "essence" and "family alignment." My belief or understanding is, are essence and family and alignment names equivalent indicators of one's level of conscious spiritual development, and maybe also a way of identifying soul mates, groups, and guides?

ELIAS: I shall offer to you, the identification of essence name, family and alignment is NOT an indication of your movement in what you term to be development, so to speak. It is an identification of the tone of your essence in its entirety in the name, which is a translation into your physical language.

The identification of the essence families are the association that your essence has created in relation to this one particular physical dimension. Therefore, in relation to this physical dimension and your essence's participation in creating manifestations in this physical dimension, your essence groups itself together with other essences in belonging to a particular group, which is identified as an essence family.

The individual focus thusly also chooses an alignment with an essence family, in conjunction with their choice of direction within their particular individual manifestation. Therefore, each focus of one essence is belonging to one essence family, for that essence in its entirety of manifestations in this particular dimension chooses to be participating in relation with one particular essence family; but the focuses of attention of that essence also hold the choice to be incorporating an alignment, or an association, with ANY of the other essence families, and therefore displaying qualities in that particular focus which shall be in alignment with the intent and the qualities of that particular essence family that is chosen.

Now; the beneficial aspect of objectively knowing the identifications of essence families in a particular focus is that you may allow yourself a fuller or clearer understanding of the qualities in this particular focus that you incorporate, and it may also be helpful to individuals in recognizing the essence families that are incorporated by other individuals, lending more of an objective understanding of your interactions with other individuals, recognizing the qualities that they may be incorporating in difference to the qualities that YOU express within your focus. This is NOT an identification of what you term to be, in your beliefs, spiritual development or growth or position.

Now; let me also express to you my friend, many, many, many individuals within your physical dimension align with a very strongly expressed belief that you manifest within this physical dimension to be learning, and therefore attaining to higher spiritual levels.

GEORGE: Oh, I think I hear you!

ELIAS: And I may express to you quite definitely that there are NO LEVELS within consciousness, and this is not the point. You manifest within this particular physical dimension for it offers an extremely diverse expression of physical ability of exploration of consciousness. This is an extremely intricate and complex physical dimension.

As I have stated previously, this particular physical dimension is one of the most complex and diverse physical dimensions that is expressed within consciousness. Therefore, you incorporate manifestation within this physical dimension to offer yourself a tremendous variety of exploration in the physical aspect of consciousness, but you are not aspiring to or attaining levels of consciousness. This belief, in actuality, is inconsistent with consciousness itself, for you ARE consciousness. You are essence; therefore, you occupy all areas of consciousness. Therefore, what shall you attain to that you already do not incorporate?

GEORGE: What amazes me, this is exactly what Franklin Merrell-Wolff wrote and talked about.

ELIAS: Correct.

GEORGE: Right, so I am understanding you - I think I am understanding you. Can I go on to the next slightly different area?

ELIAS: You certainly may.

GEORGE: The last few weeks my normal physical elimination processes have drastically slowed down, and of course, I have this lesion on my face and a few other things. Can you offer any insight into my progress in dealing with these or the energy I need, or whatever is going on?

ELIAS: (Pause) I may express to you my friend, you may be incorporating the action of viewing your physical energy centers and aligning these energy centers, balancing the rotation of them, and this may be also influencing of your physical manifestations.

GEORGE: In other words, there are positive changes that are happening, and they are connected in the manifestation with these other things that I regard as difficulties.

ELIAS: Correct. But in this, you may also be affecting in an ease of these physical manifestations if you allow yourself to incorporate a simple exercise of aligning your physical energy centers. You incorporate eight physical energy centers in association with your body consciousness, and in aligning these energy centers, you may also be easily affecting, in what you term to be a desirable manner, your physical expressions that you have been incorporating to this point. Are you understanding?

GEORGE: I think I am understanding. I was going to suggest or ask, if I don't feel or perceive these energy centers as such, will the simple act of imagining that they are being aligned, or attempting to visualize them being aligned, be sufficient to accomplish the alignment?

ELIAS: Yes.

GEORGE: I've read a good deal recently, several books by several experienced authors, on hypno-regression into past lives and between lives, and my question is, will hypno-regression help me to identify and eliminate any past life bleed-throughs that may be causing me problems, and to locate where I came from - although it may not be necessary to locate where I came from?

ELIAS: I shall express to you, allowing yourself to be investigating and viewing other focuses that you incorporate in this physical dimension may be beneficial to you in allowing you a clearer objective understanding of yourself in this focus, and of your essence as it manifests in this particular physical dimension. Therefore, I am continuously encouraging of individuals to be allowing themselves this type of investigation.

Now; I may also express to you, all focuses of a particular essence incorporate that which we term to be bleed-through energy with each other, and I may express to you also, you draw energy from other focuses of essence quite intentionally to be enhancing choices and experiences that you incorporate within your focus.

Now; in investigating other focuses, the point shall not be to incorporate the action of eliminating bleed-through or affecting energy that may be deemed or viewed in this focus as negative, but rather that you allow yourself to become familiar with the experiences of other focuses, and allow yourself an objective understanding of why you, in this focus, draw to yourself the energy and the experiences of some of these other focuses, what experiences are you creating within this particular focus in which you draw energy from other focuses to enhance the experience within this focus, [and] offering yourself information to allow yourself to become more familiar with yourself and how you create what you create within your reality.

GEORGE: That is beautiful. I thank you very much! I'll relish going over that again.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome, my friend.

GEORGE: Now in connection with this, through near death experiences of many people, the idea of a conscious life review is now widely known. Is it possible - can I do it, can other people do it - to actualize a conscious life review in this focus, that would hasten all these things coming together, you might say?

ELIAS: I may also say to you, first of all, yes, you may allow yourself this type of experience without incorporating the extreme of what you identify as a near death experience. You may allow yourself to access your own expression of your essence, and therefore view all of your focuses in this particular physical dimension and their experiences, or merely this one focus in review, so to speak.

Let me express to you, this shall not necessarily expedite whatever movement you are choosing to be creating in this particular focus. What you are expressing in this questioning is, once again, the implication that if you are incorporating certain types of experiences within this focus, you shall skip forward yourself into a greater enlightenment, which in actuality, simply put, is merely another type of expression of moving to or attaining to higher levels of consciousness.

GEORGE: I see; yes, thank you.

ELIAS: I shall express to you, my friend, that many individuals that incorporate this type of experience do create considerable alterations of their individual focus and their experiences in that focus. I may express to you that individuals may allow themselves more of an openness to widening their awareness in jolting their objective awareness, so to speak, through the action of this type of experience, or they may provide themself sudden movement through a particular issue of fear, so to speak.

I may also express to you that the experience of life review, or some other experiences that are commonly expressed by individuals that incorporate this particular choice of near death experiences, are quite influenced by your physical beliefs. In actuality, at the moment of the choice of death, so to speak, in this physical dimension - your disengagement of participation in this physical dimension - you do not necessarily in actuality incorporate many of these actions unless your beliefs are held in great strength, in which you may be choosing to project that type of imagery initially in your movement prior to the action of transition.

But as I have stated, these types of experiences are translations of your beliefs into imagery that you hold in understanding in relation to your physical dimension.

GEORGE: Okay. That makes more sense, and again, thank you.

ELIAS: You are very welcome.

GEORGE: I'm sticking another random question in here: what is your relationship, or can you make any comments on Sai Baba or Franklin Merrell-Wolff?

ELIAS: I may express to you, my relationship to any of these essences that focus manifestations within your physical dimension is the same as my relationship with all of you that I interact with within this forum in our discussions together. I, as an energy personality essence, focus attention in many areas of consciousness.

This particular aspect of attention that you speak with this day also is interactive with many, many essences focused in your physical dimension and not. I may express to you that the term "relationship" in correlation to essence holds a different type of meaning, so to speak, than is incorporated or understood within your physical manifestation and your objective understanding of "relationship," for I hold the recognition of essence and its interconnectedness with all other essences and all other expressions of consciousness.

Therefore in a manner of speaking, in response to the question of my relationship to these other essences as consciousness, we are all one. Therefore, I may be viewed as they, and they as myself, for there is in actuality no distinction, so to speak, within consciousness. The only distinction is the expression of personality energy, which creates the identification of aspects of consciousness which are identified as essences.

GEORGE: Is your use of the word "essence" congruent with the word "individual" or "individuality"?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, but not in the association that you understand within your physical manifestation.

You have chosen to be manifesting a focus of attention in a particular physical dimension, and in this physical dimension, all that you incorporate within your understanding is filtered through an association with what is known within the design and the blueprint of this physical dimension. Outside of this particular physical dimension, the associations may be expressed quite differently. There is an identification of uniqueness and individuality in association with personality energy, but not in the singularity of what you view as individual.

GEORGE: The thing that I'm seeing because of my background, and I think other people are seeing, is what we term the "physical" - this physical focus or physical dimension - physically is only apparent because of the way we use our nervous system. Our nervous system produces a narrow-band view of something.

But we now know from what's happening in physics and a lot of other places, if you look at things microscopically you find out that everything is really patterns of energy (Elias nods) or patterns of consciousness, perhaps. So, what is arising is the opportunity, apparently, for many people - many beings, essences - to become aware of things from that viewpoint instead of just from the viewpoint of their narrow-band five-senses focus. Am I making some sense?

ELIAS: Yes, I am understanding; you are correct. You incorporate a physical understanding, to an extent, of the movement of your physical manifestations, and as you continue within this shift in consciousness in this century, you begin widening your awareness objectively to also incorporate more of an understanding of consciousness and that you manipulate energy as an expression of consciousness, and you choose specific patterns to be expressing certain manifestations, but it is all an expression of consciousness. It is merely the choice of how you shall configure different patterns of links of consciousness together to be creating any particular expression within any area of consciousness, but in relation to yourselves in particular within this physical dimension.

GEORGE: I'll skip one of these questions and get back to it. So, what I'm gathering is that one can unravel this transition. This shift that you speak about can be experienced in this so-called physical focus, and it can also be experienced by people who are involved in a non-physical focus.

One of the reasons I bring this up is because there's some talk out there that when one gets into a non-physical focus they really can't do very much about their evolution. There seems to be divided opinions about this, and I'm beginning to take the opinion or the idea that one can work equally strongly and directly whether one is in a physical focus or a non-physical focus.

ELIAS: And I may express to you my friend, you are quite correct, for the nature of consciousness is becoming. This IS the movement of all of consciousness. Therefore, it is expressed in every aspect of consciousness. You are as any expression, as any focus of attention of consciousness, continuously in exploration of beingness.

GEORGE: And that brings up the thought that a focus is equivalent to a belief system, and whether that is a physical focus or a non-physical focus?

ELIAS: No. Belief systems are a design which is incorporated in this physical dimension, and these belief systems that are incorporated in your physical dimension are relative to your physical dimension and are not necessarily relative to other areas of consciousness or to many other physical dimensions. Your physical dimension is not the only physical dimension that incorporates belief systems.

But the belief systems that you do incorporate are unique to your physical dimension, and are relative to the expression of your physical dimension. They are, in a manner of speaking, an intricate element of the design of this particular physical dimension. They are an aspect of its structure.

GEORGE: Also, I want to go back to some of this work that I've been doing. Do you want to make any comments on the usefulness, the value or whatever, of my personal healing work?

ELIAS: Specifically, what shall you identify as your question in relation to this work?

GEORGE: Is it useful to continue this work? I'm having the feeling from your responses, and from things that happened earlier this week, that I have the tools necessary to go ahead or to do what needs to be done - let's put it that way, even though that expresses a belief - and I wondered if you had any comment on it. You might not want to comment on it.

ELIAS: I may express to you encouragement. I may also express to you to allow yourself an awareness of the beliefs that you incorporate in association with your work, so to speak. For in this, you may allow yourself more of a familiarity with yourself and your expressions, and it may be quite beneficial to you objectively to be recognizing the influence of your individual beliefs, for this is quite influencing of your interaction.

What may be beneficial to you in recognizing your beliefs - not to be eliminating them, but merely to hold an awareness and a recognition of them - is that this awareness may allow you more of an accepting interaction with other individuals in relation to your movement in your relationship.

GEORGE: That's very helpful. Again, I'm very grateful. I think I can actually skip this next one. I was going to ask if a prior focus is at the root of my problems and so forth, and I think you've told me enough that I can handle this on my own. So, I want to move on.

I've been involved with something called the Indigo Youth phenomenon - I'm sure you know what that is - and I've written a manuscript to deal with transforming education. I'm simply going to ask you, is the Indigo Youth Education project blessed by you and others in your focus? Do you have any comments or advice for forwarding this work? I think it's necessary, but I welcome your comments.

ELIAS: I shall express to you, my friend, an encouragement in your involvement in this type of expression, for what you are expressing is a recognition of the awareness of small ones that are choosing to be manifesting in this time framework.

I shall express to you that essences focusing attentions in manifestations that you view to be young or small ones in this time framework are intentionally focusing these attentions in alignment with this shift in consciousness. Therefore, they already incorporate much of the manifestations of this shift in consciousness. They are allowing themselves an openness to the remembrance of essence, and not incorporating as much of the expression of separation that many of you incorporate within this physical dimension. They are already incorporating in their few years within your physical dimension the manifestation of this shift in consciousness, which is becoming more and more evident objectively throughout your globe.

GEORGE: And that's why they need to have access to the kinds of things that you are representing and doing.

ELIAS: I may express to you, these small ones also, in a manner of speaking, provide a type of movement in expressing a motivation for individuals that incorporate the years of adulthood to be altering your physical reality and the movement of it, in accommodation to them.

Now; this also is significant in relation to this shift in consciousness, for as I have stated many times, you are not eliminating or changing beliefs. You are moving into the expression of continuing to incorporate beliefs but accepting beliefs, and therefore allowing yourself the openness to greater exploration and choice.

Now; in this particular subject matter, you offer yourself an example objectively of how you may be moving in relation to your beliefs and simultaneously greatly altering your objective reality, for the motivation is expressed directly in conjunction with your beliefs which are held en masse concerning your responsibility to the care of small ones, and in this, you move easily within the design of your beliefs, but you also create a movement in beginning to alter the structure of what is expressed in your belief concerning the responsibility to be caring for and providing for these small ones, in their instruction and growth, so to speak.

GEORGE: Well, again, thank you. Can I access your help through the use of a pendulum and/or meditation, or both?

ELIAS: If you are so choosing, yes, you may access my energy and my interaction with you in any manner that you are so choosing. You may be incorporating a focal point, and allow yourself to be concentrating your attention upon that focal point, and this may be facilitating in your individual expression of your allowance of your recognition of my interaction with you. I may express to you, my friend, you may incorporate any type of focal point in relation to your interaction with myself, EXCEPT that which you identify as the Ouija board.

GEORGE: (Laughing) Oh, I hear you! Absolutely, that would be the farthest thing from my mind. (Elias laughs)

You had mentioned in one of the other transcripts four types of beings, and I just felt spontaneously that I would be categorized in the religious type. Is that correct? Maybe partially, or whatever?

ELIAS: I may express to you, my friend, you are correct.

GEORGE: Well, thank you. This has been very wonderful, and if you have any teaching comments or anything, please speak.

ELIAS: I express to you, my friend, this day, that you may be allowing yourself a noticing of your interactions in conjunction with your beliefs and your automatic responses, and you shall allow yourself more of an expression of intimacy in your relationship with yourself, and this shall create an automatic by-product, in a manner of speaking, which shall spill forth to the individuals that you interact with presently, and may also serve as an example in encouragement to these other individuals.

I am acknowledging of your movement in this particular focus. You have offered yourself many avenues of information. You have allowed yourself to be incorporating many philosophies, and in that exploration, you have also created an ability objectively to view the similarities in the different expressions, and this is quite helpful in movement into a genuine expression of acceptance.

You also incorporate an understanding of self in your movement in this particular focus of attention, which I am acknowledging of and greatly encouraging of your continuation in your movement in relation to other individuals. For you express what may be identified in your physical terms as a gentleness and a genuine compassion for other individuals, and a recognition of the interconnectedness of all individuals throughout your physical dimension. I am greatly encouraging of you, my friend.

GEORGE: I thank you, the most warm and grateful thanks for your help, and blessings on your work and continued success. It's been an honor to speak with you. I hope we can do it again some time.

ELIAS: I anticipate our next meeting. Until that moment within your time framework, I express to you tremendous affection and a loving au revoir.

GEORGE: Thank you, thank you.

Elias departs at 1:25 PM.

(1) Stated originally as: "But as I have stated, these types of experiences are translations of your beliefs into object ... imagery that you hold in understanding in relation to your physical dimension."

(2) George is referring to the four ways in which individuals process information: emotionally focused, thought focused, political focused, and religious focused. For more information on this topic, go to: http://www.eliasforum.org/digests/essence_elements.html

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