Monday, February 26, 2001 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Frank (Ulra)
Elias arrives at 11:36 AM. (Arrival time is 19 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

FRANK: Good morning! Nice to talk to you objectively! (Elias laughs) I think we've been communicating subjectively.

ELIAS: You are correct!

FRANK: Ah, good. Well, we'll talk more about that later. I have many questions, so let me start right in here.

Last time we spoke, I asked you if we had known each other, you know, had focuses together, and you said we had and that I should investigate that. So I did, and one of the impressions I got is that I know one of your focuses in this focus right now. Is that correct?

ELIAS: In this present time framework, in actuality, there is one focus which may be identified as a future focus of this essence, and I may express to you this individual is objectively not known to you.

FRANK: Okay. So at this present time I'm not interactive with any of your focuses?

ELIAS: No.

FRANK: Okay. I have two other impressions, one was that we knew each other around the middle of this century in Germany, and the other one I got was a picture of a knight and that was it, a picture of a knight on a horse.

ELIAS: (Chuckling) Now; I shall express to you that you are offering yourself imagery in relation to Germany and your previous century in conjunction with many other individuals that are also allowing themselves impressions and viewings of focuses in that time framework, and the relation of those focuses to this present time framework and their manifestations in THIS present time framework. Many, many of these individuals are interactive in this forum, and this is what you are allowing yourself also to be tapping into, which lends an ease to you in recognizing your impressions and movement into identification of that particular time framework and your focus in that framework.

I do not participate in that particular focus for, as I have stated previously, in actuality this essence created its final focus within your linear time framework of 1900, at which point the other focuses of this essence either fragmented or disengaged also. Therefore, I may express to you, in the time period of your previous century and any identification of time subsequent to that century, there are no longer focuses of this essence manifesting within your physical dimension.

Now; as to your identification of the knight, you are correct. In this particular focus, which may be identified in the physical location of British Isles, you participate in that focus, and I also hold a manifestation in that focus as a sorcerer and advisor.

FRANK: Ah! Just like now!

ELIAS: HA HA!

FRANK: (Laughs) Okay. I'll keep investigating that area.

I have so many questions I'm not sure which one to ask you next, but ... well, okay. I have a mental condition that was the result of a removal of a tumor from my neck, and they refer to this as Fry syndrome. It's sort of a strange thing. What happens is whenever I eat food, the side of my neck starts to perspire very heavily. I would like to know, what are the reasons for this?

ELIAS: Offer to myself, first of all, your impression as to your creation of this situation.

FRANK: In other words, what do I think is the reason that I created this?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: I'm stumped on this one.

ELIAS: (Chuckling) In investigation of your creation, allow yourself momentarily presently to be identifying the time framework in which you created this physical affectingness and what you engaged within that time framework.

FRANK: Well, I suspect it was probably either related to employment and responsibilities there, or related to family responsibilities. I would guess perhaps maybe a fear that I would not be able to properly fulfill those responsibilities.

ELIAS: Correct, and therefore create a tension within your physical body consciousness; but let us examine more specifically, for you have created this physical affectingness in a specific area in relation to energy centers.

FRANK: When you say energy centers, do you mean chakras?

ELIAS: In your terms, similar, yes.

FRANK: Okay. Well, it's closest to the throat...

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: ...but I am not familiar with the energy centers and what the different ones relate to.

ELIAS: This would be what may be identified as the blue energy center, which is affecting of communication. Therefore, the issue within that time framework which instructed the physical body consciousness to be creating of this tumor, so to speak, in this particular physical location was directly associated with your communication in that time framework and your tension within self in expressing inwardly a doubtfulness in relation to the efficiency of your own expression of communication in relation to other individuals within that time framework.

Now; you also have created movement in relation to this particular issue and have altered your perception in relation to your ability to be efficiently communicating with other individuals in what you term to be your workplace and also in relation to family.

In that movement, you have altered the creation of the physical affectingness, but at times you continue to create a trigger experience, in a manner of speaking, with a physical affectingness in that particular location to be continuing to draw your attention to your interaction in communication.

It matters not that you create this imagery in relation to a physical action of consuming food, so to speak. This is merely an objective expression that you incorporate as a reasonable expression, offering yourself a rational explanation that as you create a particular action, this particular area of your physical body appears to be affected. In actuality, it is not concerning your consumption. It is an objective reminder, so to speak, that you offer to yourself in awareness of your interaction in communication.

FRANK: You say that I have experienced movement in this area?

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: But still I call this to my attention; and the reason for that is to continue the movement, or...?

ELIAS: Correct. For I may express to you, my friend, that you do continue to express some aspects of this particular issue. You do continue to create some challenges in this particular expression and some associations of doubt within self in your ability to be efficiently communicating with some individuals, as you are aware.

FRANK: Right. Cardelete, mostly?

ELIAS: (Laughing) And some other individuals! (Both laugh)

FRANK: As long as we're on the subject of communication, let me segue into something that I also wanted to ask you about which has to do with my relationship with and communication with Lizella, which seems to have improved greatly since we talked about that one or two sessions ago. Can you tell me subjectively what happened to change that?

ELIAS: I may express to you, this also is an example to you of your movement in this particular subject matter and this particular issue that you hold within your focus, for you have allowed yourself to be paying attention to self and incorporating what you have assimilated in information and applying, so to speak, what you have assimilated into objective actions in allowing yourself to be paying attention to self; and this creates a natural by-product of more of an ease in your communication outwardly, for it also creates a natural by-product of more of an acceptance in relation to the other individual. Therefore, you also present yourself with an objective example that you may incorporate in relation to other individuals.

FRANK: Actually, we had a laugh about it before, but I've also noticed that my relationship with Cardelete has improved. I think the communication is not quite where I'd like it to be, but that has happened also. So, that's another part of this whole thing that you're talking about?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct. And I may express to you, my friend, that in your movement, as you continue to be allowing yourself to turn your attention to self and be paying attention to what YOU are communicating within self, and not directing your attention as intensely to the other individual, you may be noticing that your expectations concerning the other individuals are expressed less and less, and in that, your expression of acceptance concerning the other individuals becomes greater and greater; and in that movement, your interaction in communication with other individuals becomes easier and also incorporates less conflict.

FRANK: Well, obviously that is what's going on, but the interesting thing from my perspective is that it doesn't seem like I'm paying more attention to myself. (Elias chuckles) Do you understand where I'm coming from?

ELIAS: Yes. Let me express to you, paying attention to yourself is not necessarily an action of THINKING about yourself, but it may be expressed in a movement of not creating automatic actions of reaction in relation to other individuals or situations.

FRANK: Well, yes, I definitely think I'm doing better there. (Elias chuckles) Well, not "better" - that's a value judgment!

ELIAS: (Laughing) Temporarily, I may acknowledge to you that you may associate that your actions are "better," as this may be reinforcing to you. Eventually you shall move into the expression of "it matters not," and you shall not be creating this value judgment of "better." Ha ha ha!

FRANK: Well, I'm moving in the right direction here! (Elias laughs) Okay, now let's see. I would like to ask you about a dream I had.

ELIAS: Very well.

FRANK: This was on the night of the 30th. In this dream I was on my driveway, and I saw an unfamiliar dog on the end of the driveway trying to eat a bag of garbage that I had placed there. I threw something at the dog, a rock or a stone or something, that I expected would scare him away. But instead he turned towards me and he started to growl, and I had the sense that he might attack me. At first I was very scared and backed off. But then somehow ... I don't know if I gained some measure of lucidity in the dream, but I either realized it was only a dream or somehow I got the courage to stand up to this dog.

So at this point I may have realized that the image was keeping me away from what I thought at the time was the Gates of Horn - I'm not sure as I wrote it down. But I went directly to the dog and stuck my hand in his mouth and pulled a key out of his body. The next thing I knew I was traveling very rapidly down some sort of a passage, and it had a lot of twists and turns and side passages that I didn't take but that I knew were there. During this time I was thinking that I was going to the Gates of Horn. So, that was my dream, and perhaps you could interpret that.

ELIAS: Offer to me your impression.

FRANK: My impression was that it was some sort of a breakthrough, you know, that I had fear of some subjective thing that was going on, or level that I was trying to get to, or breakthrough I was trying to make, in that I overcame my fear of it and moved in that direction. Since then, that's been sort of easing my movement.

ELIAS: You are correct in your interpretation. I may also express to you, in addition to your interpretation, that this was not merely imagery that you present to yourself in relation to hesitancy or fear, but also an initial presentment to yourself concerning distraction. As you create the imagery of the creature engaging its initial action, the element of distraction is that you turn to this creature in a movement of a lack of acceptance of his behavior. Correct?

FRANK: Yes, right.

ELIAS: Now; the imagery that you are presenting to yourself in that action is your identification of turning your attention and distracting yourself from your movement by concerning yourself with the action of the creature.

In this, once you turn your attention once again back to yourself, the behavior or the movement of the creature is no longer a concern to you, therefore is no longer a distraction. And in this, you allow yourself to approach the creature and recognize that in that approach and actual interaction with the creature, it offers you a key, an allowance for the movement that you wish to be creating.

Now; I may express to you, this is quite symbolic in the imagery that you have created, for this also is an expression that may be related to what you are creating and moving into objectively. As always, as I have expressed previously, your dream imagery in actuality moves in harmony with your objective imagery; they are merely expressed differently. But the subject matter, in a manner of speaking, is the same.

In this, as you are objectively moving into an expression of allowing yourself to turn your attention to self and not be distracted by what you view as outward interactions or the movement and choices of other individuals, you offer yourself a new expression of freedom in allowing yourself a fuller interaction with these other individuals, and as I have stated, more of an expression of acceptance concerning other individuals, for you are paying attention to YOU and expressing more of an acceptance of yourself, and in like manner to your dream imagery, this is key within your movement.

FRANK: Yes, it seems like a lot of things are happening for me lately, apparently good things. Oh, there's another value judgment! (Elias laughs)

A few days prior to that dream I went to bed with a bad cold or an allergy symptom or something. I felt so terrible but I woke up the next morning feeling much better, and the question that I had about this is, did something happen that night while I was sleeping, or is it just a natural body process, or again is this some message from myself or whatever? Why did I go to bed feeling so bad and wake up feeling so good? And I want to ask you about another event that happened right after that that relates to it.

ELIAS: First of all, I may express to you, in this you create an objective symptom of fatigue in relation to your beliefs of physical activity and their effect of draining upon your physical expression of energy, and as you engage your sleep state, you also are creating another expression of alignment with your beliefs that you allow yourself to regenerate your energy within this time framework and therefore awake expressing a refreshment, so to speak, of your energy. This moves in conjunction with mass belief systems also.

FRANK: Well then, let me tell you what happened later that morning. Later that morning my wife was out; she was going shopping or something or other. I felt great, so I went to my son and my daughter and I said, "Hey, I'll take you out to eat breakfast." They were getting ready, and I was getting ready and was in the shower or something, and in the mean time my wife came home and, I don't know, decided it was going to be too late to wait for me, and they just went out - they just went. I got out and everyone was gone.

I got incredibly angry at this, I think more angry than I've been in years. I'm not sure why I got so angry. At the time I thought about our previous conversation, and I said, "Okay, this is some sort of communication." But I couldn't quite determine what the communication was, and so I would like to ask you about that, and then also I'd like to ask you about why the people in my family participated in the whole thing. What was their motivation, particularly Cardelete?

ELIAS: First of all, I may express to you that you are correct, you have offered yourself this experience to be practicing in your identification of your communications.

Now; you have created what may be expressed within you as a slightly extreme situation that shall also offer you a clear identification of emotion and objective imagery, and how they are aspects of the same movement. In this, you identify the signal, so to speak, the feeling of anger, and you stop with that identification.

Now; anger, I may express to you, is coupled with other emotions, for anger in actuality is an extreme of frustration. Frustration for the most part is associated with communications that may also be expressed in the identification of other emotions.

Generally speaking, anger is not expressed singularly in itself. In a manner of speaking, anger is not a singular emotion in itself. It is an expression which is projected outwardly in relation to other emotional expressions or signals, and in allowing yourself the recognition that anger is, in a manner of speaking, coupled with other signals, you may allow yourself to explore what the other signal is, and once identifying the other signal you may also allow yourself to explore what that expression is communicating to you.

Now; in this situation, you create the automatic expression of anger, and within that signal the emotion which is expressed is disappointment. Within the communication of that emotion of disappointment, you may explore within self what you are creating inwardly that is expressing this particular signal.

FRANK: Okay, could it be disappointment that I'm not - I don't know how to put this - nurturing myself enough?

ELIAS: Not necessarily. Let us examine this particular situation, the imagery and the emotional communication.

In this, you create a situation in which you are interacting with family members. Initially you are interactive with what you recognize as yourself and the children, but your partner is not involved in that interaction. This is significant in the initial movement of this event, for in singularly interacting with these individuals, you view yourself to be expressing and acknowledging your role in importance and significance with these particular individuals, and this is reinforced in their attention to you and their expression of pleasure in relation to your choice of action. Are you following thus far?

FRANK: Absolutely, yes.

ELIAS: Now; subsequently you create a physical removal of yourself and these children temporarily. In this scene of your play now enters the partner. In this action there is also an association that the children value the interaction of the partner more than yourself, and that their attention moves automatically from YOU to your partner. In a manner of speaking, what you are creating inwardly is a vying for position.

Now; this once again is a projection of your attention outward and holding your attention upon the other individuals. All of these actions move together in an expression that you are creating in a discounting of yourself, and this discounting of yourself is reinforced in holding your attention outside of yourself and not holding to yourself within your attention, assessing your value through the expressions of other individuals, and therefore allowing other individuals to dictate to you.

Now; in actuality, I may express to you, this is quite a creative example that you have offered to yourself and quite clear also, for there is a clear identification of objective imagery that may be viewed in relation to the communication which is occurring.

Now; let me express to you once again a reminder that the actions that are occurring are not followed by a reaction of the emotion. The movement is already being created within you.

The emotion is not a reaction. It is a clear identification of what you are creating. The objective imagery is occurring simultaneous to what you are creating inwardly and communicating to yourself. It appears to you that the emotion follows the event, for your attention is directed outwardly in the objective imagery, and subsequently as the communication becomes louder, you turn your attention to self and recognize the signal which is being offered to identify the communication.

FRANK: I think I understand much better now. Okay, well, let's talk about another nightly activity here...

ELIAS: (Chuckling) Let me express to you, my friend, also this may be quite beneficial to you in allowing yourself recall of this particular experience, for it does offer to you a clear example of the relation of objective imagery and emotional communication.

Therefore, as you continue to turn your attention to self and pay attention to your communications, you may allow yourself movement in the direction of recognizing, noticing, and identifying your emotional communications, in a manner of speaking, before they become extreme.

FRANK: This example really brings home what we talked about in our last session.

ELIAS: Quite.

FRANK: I understand much better now what you were talking about then.

ELIAS: Very well.

FRANK: So you're saying it would be helpful for me to sort of revisit this and sort out the events and how they occurred, what happened with the emotions and all that?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: Okay. I will do that, now that I understand.

Next I want to ask you, about a week ago when I went to bed I asked you to help me create what I wanted more easily. Again, I woke up feeling tremendous but had no other apparent messages other than I had a dream that night where my eyebrows were incredibly long and I was cutting them with a scissors. I don't know if that relates to the communications I expressed to you that night and the way I felt when I woke up, but again, if you could comment on that. And do you get ... I assume you get these communications that I send to you?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: Okay.

ELIAS: You are correct. I may express to you, this particular imagery that you offer to yourself is quite humorous and playful, for in this imagery you are creating a physical image of yourself within these long eyebrows, so to speak, as a symbol of your own wisdom within yourself, and your expression of being pleased with yourself in your communications with myself, and the wisdom that you offer to yourself in that action. HA HA HA HA! (Frank laughs) Quite creative! Ha ha ha!

FRANK: You know, Elias, I always try to do something to give you a laugh in these sessions!

ELIAS: (Laughing) I may express to you, my friend, this is quite humorous!

FRANK: Okay, getting back to the situation, what did happen subjectively that night, if anything? Did you and I somehow communicate? Did something occur?

ELIAS: There has been an engagement of communication, and you have offered to yourself in that interaction more of an assimilation of this particular subject matter concerning your own communications to yourself. In your terms, as you express them, you were acknowledging to yourself that you "get it." Ha ha ha!

FRANK: (Laughs) Okay, well that's good! (Elias chuckles)

Let's move on to just a few nights ago. Again, about the time I was going to bed I communicated with you for assistance with help in one of my sales activities. Next day, I all of a sudden got an order from a totally unexpected source, someone who had previously turned me down, and suddenly this individual opened an account. Again, was there something that happened that night in terms of our communication, or something I did or recognized or whatever that caused this imagery to appear the next day?

ELIAS: In actuality, I may express to you that the communication from yourself was received by this essence, and in response I merely offered an expression of energy in encouragement of your own expression.

I have not offered you an actual communication in terms of information, so to speak, but in response to your request offered an expression of encouragement in energy in relation to your own trust of your abilities to be creating what you want within your reality, and in this, in your acceptance of that expression of energy, you allow yourself to be creating objective expressions that reinforce your own trust of yourself and your abilities to be creating efficiently and to be creating what you want in objective terms.

FRANK: More consciously.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: Well, that's one I still feel I don't have down very well.

ELIAS: (Laughs) And I may express to you, my friend, that you occupy good company, in your terms, for many other individuals challenge themselves with this type of expression also! But you are all moving in relation to this shift in consciousness and are allowing yourselves more and more opportunities to be creating what you want intentionally and objectively. (Chuckling)

FRANK: I'll kind of let that one go for now and come back to you with that one later. (Elias laughs)

But let me do ask you about something. Now that it seems like I am moving more rapidly, I guess, or however you want to put it, what would you suggest I do to improve my ability to consciously communicate with my essence?

ELIAS: You are already continuously communicating, so to speak, with essence, for essence is YOU.

FRANK: Umm, okay.

ELIAS: Ha ha! I may...

FRANK: I know that there are no divisions to the self, or at least subjectively.

ELIAS: Quite! And in this, it is not a situation of communicating with another entity or some other expression of you. All of the communication that you engage within self IS a communication of or to essence, for it is YOU.

FRANK: Okay, let me put it another way then. (Elias starts to laugh) I don't want to put you out of a job, but...

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!

FRANK: ...what I would like to do would be to directly ask other portions of myself the sort of questions that I ask you.

ELIAS: I am understanding, and this is the movement that you are creating moving into.

You interact with myself to offer you information concerning methods and processes, so to speak, that you may be incorporating objectively, redefining your reality and incorporating different avenues of movement that you may be experimenting with and practicing, and therefore eventually allowing yourself to be interacting with yourself in the manner in which you interact with myself.

In actuality, I may express to you, as you continue to turn your attention to self, becoming more familiar with yourself, recognizing and understanding your communications more fully and more easily, you eventually shall offer yourself clearer and more precise, more exact, responses or answers, so to speak, to your own questions than I offer to you.

For there are expressions in my responses to you, in an encouragement to you to be becoming more familiar with yourself, that incorporate expressions of vagueness in my responses at times with you, and I respond in this manner at times quite purposefully in an action of spurring you to be paying attention to yourself more fully and therefore allowing yourself to accomplish precisely what you are identifying now and questioning in this present moment.

FRANK: I always thought that was why you did that! (Elias chuckles) Well then, I'll continue in that direction. I think that's about it for now. (Elias chuckles) Oh, one last question: pain in my elbow. (Slight pause)

ELIAS: Continue - this is not a question! (Laughs)

FRANK: I have recurring pain in my elbow...

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!

FRANK: ...so let's see, I need to explore what I'm presenting to myself there. (Laughing)

ELIAS: (Laughs) Correct. Recognize also that what you create within your physical body consciousness is also another avenue of communication. Therefore, you may examine what you are engaging in the moments that you create this physical affectingness.

You may pay attention to the direction of your attention and allow yourself to be noticing the other avenues of communication that you incorporate in relation to this physical communication. This you may be incorporating as an exercise in examining all that you are communicating to yourself in any particular moment.

You do not merely create ONE expression of communication singularly in any particular moment. You incorporate many avenues of communication simultaneously, which this is the point of what we have been discussing in allowing yourself this familiarity with yourself and your communications, and therefore allowing yourself to intentionally objectively be directing of your movement of your creations and of your abilities to create what you want, for you offer yourself communications to be acknowledging and validating and verifying in each moment what it is that you are creating.

FRANK: Okay. Well, thank you. As always, it's been a pleasure.

ELIAS: You are welcome. I shall be encouraging of you in your experimentation with this particular physical manifestation of your elbow, and also of your neck in relation to this blue energy center, and your allowance of yourself to be paying attention to what you are creating and what your communications are. This shall provide you with efficient avenues of practice. (Chuckling)

FRANK: Okay, and I'll be in touch!

ELIAS: Very well, my friend.

FRANK: Probably tonight!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! I shall be anticipating our continued interaction. (Laughs) I express tremendous affection to you once again, and a tremendous lovingness in our interactions. To you this morning, au revoir.

FRANK: Goodbye.

Elias departs at 12:41 PM.


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