Thursday, January 11, 2001-1 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Joe (Holden).
Vic’s note: Elias was very careful and deliberate throughout
this session, so I will just note that here rather than add comments.
Elias arrives at 11:19 AM. (Arrival time is 18 seconds)
ELIAS: Good morning!
JOE: Good morning, Elias. (Elias chuckles) A while back,
you and I had a session and I asked you about my back, and you pretty much
told me about my balance and about chakras. I had kind of set that
aside for a while because I’ve been so busy, and then I finally got around
to it, and now I’ve become fascinated with chakras. So, for the next
couple of sessions, if you don’t mind, I’d like to ask you about chakras.
ELIAS: Very well, and how shall we proceed?
JOE: I understand that the direction of spin is clockwise, correct?
ELIAS: Correct.
JOE: Now, what I don’t understand is, do they spin on a horizontal
axis relative to the spine, or are they spherical and they spin in a spherical
motion, like geometrically they’re a sphere? Or doesn’t it really
matter? I’m just kind of confused about the actual physiology of the placement
of these things and their actual geometric shape.
ELIAS: Correct. In this, I may express to you that these
energy centers may be visualized in a spherical form. This may be
the most efficient manner in which you may allow yourself to visualize
and engage these energy centers, in like manner to a ball, so to speak.
The energy centers are a concentration of energy which you create in
specific areas of your physical body consciousness that direct energy in
relation to certain functions and movements of the physical body consciousness
that you create in the physical manifestation in this dimension.
Now; each of these energy centers may be viewed in the core of its concentration
as a sphere, and they radiate energy outwardly from that core of spherical
energy, so to speak. The direction of the motion of these energy
centers moves not in the direction of the spine, so to speak, but crossing
the direction of the spine.
JOE: In other words, the axis of the rotation would be the spine?
ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes.
JOE: Okay. Now, can almost all healing be affected through
the manipulation of these energy centers? (10-second pause)
ELIAS: Yes.
JOE: Exactly how or in what way ... I’m not doing very good at
asking this question. How do you access these energy centers, and
how do you physically or mentally cause the manipulation necessary for
the healing? Is there a specific set of guidelines that you can give
me to be able to visualize, access, and control these energy centers?
ELIAS: Let me express to you, these energy centers are not entities
in themselves that are not an aspect of you, in a manner of speaking.
I am aware that within the physical thought association that each of
you create in relation to your reality in this physical dimension, you
automatically move into an association of viewing different aspects of
yourselves as entities and things in themselves, in a manner of speaking.
For example, you view your physical body to be an expression of you,
but you also automatically separate, for this is the design of your physical
dimension, to be separating. And in that separation, you view yourself
or what you identify as the essence of you — your personality, your mind,
that which is identifiable as the core makeup, so to speak, of yourself
— as being some expression without form that is challenging to allow yourself
an actual physical identification of.
In this, you view your body as somewhat separated from that core expression
of you, and in this, you view many different aspects of your body — your
organs, your muscles, your bones, your tissue — as once again yet another
separation, in that each of these aspects of your physical body are contained
within a structure of a physical form, but each of these aspects of that
physical form is a thing in itself also, and therefore separate.
Now; in like manner to these automatic associations that you create
in relation to your physical body, as you move your attention to an identification
of energy centers, you create the same type of association within your
thoughts and your identification of them, viewing them to be a physical
manifestation or an entity in itself holding a particular function; which
in a manner of speaking, this is correct, but it is also misinterpreted
somewhat.
For as you create that type of an association, you separate yourself
from these energy centers, and approach them and your interaction with
them as though they are things in themselves that you may be manipulating
in particular methods, as you would manipulate the movement of an object
that you perceive to be outside of your physical body.
What I am expressing to you is, the difficulty and the challenge that
is presented in this type of association is that you approach each of these
energy centers in similar manner to how you may approach a ball — that
you view to be an object outside of yourself — and your manipulation of
its movement, that if you are pushing the ball in a certain manner physically,
it shall move in a particular direction.
If you are interacting with this object in a different method, you shall
create a different type of action or effect. You may roll the ball
by interacting with it in a particular method and design of energy.
You may bounce the ball by creating a different type of action, which is
a different method. You may toss the ball. There are many different
movements that you can create with this object that you view as interactions
and methods of movement that affect different expressions, so to speak,
of the object.
Now; in relation to viewing energy centers, as you approach your interaction
with these energy centers and you are associating with them in a similar
manner to the ball — outside of yourself, so to speak — you may be in actuality
affecting much less of the movement or the instruction of those energy
centers than you shall be if you are allowing yourself to recognize that
these energy centers may be associated with you in the same manner that
you associate your identification of yourself as you — that undefinable,
formless aspect of you or expression of you associated with your personality
and your perception, which you automatically express and need no thought
process or direction through thought to enact its function.
Are you following thus far?
JOE: Somewhat.
ELIAS: Very well.
Let me express to you, I may offer to you the identification of these
energy centers and express to you that you may visually view them in a
type of form, for this is an association that is familiar to you.
You associate with aspects of your reality through what is known to
you in this objective physical experience and dimension, correct?
JOE: Correct.
ELIAS: I may not express to you the identification of some aspect
of reality that does not fit within the objective physical associations
that are known and familiar to you, for you shall incorporate a lack of
objective understanding and recognition of that information.
Therefore, [I am] recognizing that you have created a specific physical
dimension in which all of your objective recognition, understanding, and
knowing is associated with that which may be viewed through the physicality
of your dimension.
In this, as I recognize that this is the design of your physical dimension
and the design and blueprint of the function of your objective awareness,
I offer to you explanations and definitions of certain aspects of your
creations that may be translated into physical associations. This
lends to the objective assimilation and understanding of your interaction
with certain aspects of what you create, which may not necessarily be physical
expressions of consciousness or of energy.
Now; in this, I may express to you an identification of an energy center
in physical terms as a sphere and [as] creating specific functions and
movement in specific directions, but the point that I am expressing to
you now in relation to these energy centers is that they are not manifestations
of your expression of energy that need be directed through objective thought
or an actual physical manipulation of energy.
A physical manipulation of energy that you create may be to move your
physical legs to accomplish the action of walking. Although for the
most part it is unnecessary for you to engage a thought to be directing
of that movement, you may at times create a thought to be directing of
that type of movement, and it shall be expressed in the same manner as
it is expressed without the thought.
In relation to your energy centers, in a manner of speaking, you are
manipulating a physical action of movement. But in another manner
of speaking, you are creating a direction which is offered to the energy
centers which automatically and precisely follow that direction which is
expressed subjectively, not necessarily through thought.
Now; I may express to you, you may engage thought and you may manipulate
energy in a physical manner to be affecting of the movement of these energy
centers, but the affectingness of the movement of them shall be much less
in that type of action than it shall be in allowing the natural subjective
communication and direction to them.
Now; you are inquiring of specific methods in how you may be interactive
with these energy centers and be affecting of them.
In this, I have spoken to individuals previously in association with
the movement and affectingness of certain energy centers.
As I offer information to individuals, you may be noticing and recognizing
that my interaction with individuals shall also be associated with information
concerning their perception and their beliefs in what they are creating,
for these aspects of their expression are quite influencing of how they
shall be affecting of the movement of these energy centers.
For the mechanics of what is occurring in the movement of your energy
centers is that your subjective awareness is offering specific direction
to each of these energy centers in relation to all that you are creating
within your reality.
Therefore, as you are aware, your subjective awareness engages beliefs
as does your objective awareness, for these are an integral aspect of this
physical reality.
In this, as your objective and subjective awarenesses move in harmony,
incorporating many forms of communication between them, you create movements
and direction which is expressed through these energy centers. Some
of those directions may be involving the physical performance or function
of your physical body. Some of these directions which are expressed
to the energy centers create other manifestations.
The energy centers are the energy expression, or physical manifestation
in this physical dimension, of the essence of you. They are the expression
of consciousness, translated into physical dimension, which are in actuality
the essence expression of you in physical form, so to speak. Therefore,
all that is created within your physical reality, in the physical aspect
of it, is expressed and manifest through the projection of energy from
these centers.
Are you understanding?
JOE: I think so. I think I have a glimmer of it, but as
you already know, I can be pretty dense sometimes!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
JOE: Basically, I think in a nutshell — and you can tell me if
I’m right or wrong — these energy centers, or their dynamics, I should
say, are a function of subjective understanding, and they really aren’t
influenced that much by attempts at objective manipulation. Is that
correct?
ELIAS: In a manner of speaking.
Now; I may express to you, they are affected somewhat through an objective
manipulation or through what you term to be objective methods. You
may be somewhat affecting of them, or affecting of their movement.
As an example, I may express to you that you may allow yourself to physically
visualize any particular energy center [and] recognize the color vibration
that is expressed and associated with that particular energy center.
You may be noticing of its physical rotation and radiation of energy, and
you may choose objectively to be manipulating that movement by expressing
an objective suggestion or direction to that particular energy center,
and you shall notice that it shall follow your objective direction and
therefore alter its physical movement. But the affectingness of that
direction shall be expressed, in the recognition of your objective awareness,
in much less of a capacity than it shall be as you allow the direction
from the subjective awareness.
Now; in this, let me offer to you an example that may offer you more
of an objective clarity in relation to this type of interaction and affectingness.
Let me express to you that you may allow yourself to visualize your energy
center which is physically located within the solar plexus. You may
allow yourself to physically view the incorporation of the vibrational
quality in color of yellow. Therefore, you may view a yellow sphere
radiating this energy, so to speak, which expresses itself in relation
to that yellow vibrational expression.
Now; in this, you may notice objectively, as you are viewing this particular
energy center, that it may be radiating energy quite extensively.
In physical terms, you may view the energy radiating from this core sphere
as extending beyond your physical body and outwardly from your physical
body in a considerable extension in actual physical measurement, so to
speak, that which you commonly measure in inches and feet, so to speak.
Now; as you view this extensive radiation of energy, you may objectively
express a direction to this particular energy center, and the direction
may be to retreat that energy radiation closer to the core sphere, and
the energy center shall respond, and you may in actuality physically view
this expression of yellow energy moving or receding closer to your physical
body and receding within your physical body to the point that it may be
contained in a closer, tighter, so to speak, proximity to the core sphere,
in a manner of speaking.
Understand that these are objective physical expressions that I am offering
to you, that you may allow yourself an association that offers you an understanding.
In that action, you have offered a direction to the energy center in
physical expression, and it has responded and created the manifestation
of that direction. But what you have affected is merely a physical
manipulation of how that energy center may be expressing energy in physical
terms. You have not necessarily affected the actual function of what
that energy center is creating, or what it is expressing in actual physical
creation within your reality.
Now; let us express in this example that what the yellow energy center
in that time framework may be expressing and projecting to your avenues
of communication and to your perception — and therefore influencing your
perception to be creating an actual physical reality — may be an expression
of confusion.
Therefore you, in your expression of your reality through your perception,
are creating an actual manifestation within yourself, and also outwardly
in your reality, of confusion.
JOE: That’s pretty normal for me!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! (Joe cracks up) Ha ha ha! Now....
JOE: I didn’t mean to interrupt! (Laughing)
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
In this, as you direct objectively a movement of this energy center
and it alters its physical expression, the physical expression or FEELING
that you notice within your objective awareness may slightly subside, in
a manner of speaking, but it shall not create an action in which you eliminate
that confusion. You are merely altering your objective interaction
with it.
As you allow yourself to incorporate or to use your objective awareness
to recognize and define what you are actually creating through the movements
of these energy centers and through your subjective communications, you
automatically create a communication from the objective to the subjective,
and in that, you shall create much more of an affectingness of the direction
of these energy centers.
In a manner of speaking, it is a difference of expressing a communication
through many different channels, and creating a communication which interacts
directly with the source.
JOE: Which is the subjective self.
ELIAS: Correct.
And the manner in which the objective creates its communications in
relation to the subjective is allowing itself, so to speak — for this is
in actuality you — an understanding, a recognition, and a defining of what
you are creating. And the manner in which the objective awareness
creates those definitions and understandings is — in the circle of yourself
— listening to and translating the subjective communications, which are
expressed through physical affectingnesses, emotion, through impressions,
impulses, intuition. These are subjective communications.
The most obvious communications that you offer to yourselves from the
subjective awareness to the objective awareness are those of emotion and
physical expressions, physical affectingnesses in relation to your body
consciousness. These are communications that you offer to your objective
awareness that contain information, which I have been expressing to other
individuals also recently, and in....
JOE: Are we talking about subjects that are directly influenced
by the yellow energy center?
ELIAS: This is the example that we are incorporating in this now,
but the manner in which these energy centers function is the same within
them all.
JOE: Elias, this to me is fascinating, and this conversation that
we’ve had this morning just opens up a million new questions (Elias laughs)
that I have. I promised Mary that I would end this session at a certain
time, and I’m chafing at the bit here, but....
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! We shall continue, my friend! (Laughing)
JOE: Yes. I have another appointment on Sunday, and I’d
like to pick this up where we left off.
ELIAS: Very well, and so we shall. There is in actuality
much information which may be offered in relation to this subject matter.
JOE: And I appreciate it. Again, I really want to thank
you for this interaction.
ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend. I shall be anticipating
our continuation in our discussion. To you in tremendous affection,
au revoir.
JOE: Take care.
Elias departs at 12:10 PM.
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