Exchanging Aspects of Self
Topics:
“Exchanging Aspects of Self”
“How Other People View You”
Thursday, October 19, 2000
© 2001 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Mike (Mikah).
Elias arrives at 10:24 a.m. (Arrival time is 22 seconds)
ELIAS: Good morning!
MIKE: Good morning, Elias! (Elias chuckles) I have many,
many, many, many questions for you!
ELIAS: As always!
MIKE: Yes! (They both laugh)
Okay, I have a couple of focus questions to ask you. The first
one is, the focus of Hemingway, is that a focus of Rudim? (Pause)
ELIAS: No, although that essence does engage a focus in association
with that individual.
MIKE: Do I know a focus of the essence of Hemingway? (Pause)
ELIAS: Within this present time framework, objectively, no.
MIKE: Okay. Alright, let’s see. Do I have a focus
as a ... I’m having maybe an impression that it’s a professor of anthropology
at Columbia University. (Pause)
ELIAS: In association with that individual?
MIKE: Yes, as a focus of mine. (Pause)
ELIAS: Within that time framework?
MIKE: No, within any time framework. (18-second pause)
ELIAS: No.
MIKE: Yes?
ELIAS: No. You do hold a focus which engages as a student
of that subject matter.
MIKE: Okay. At Columbia University, or just a student of
anthropology?
ELIAS: At that university.
MIKE: Wow. Could you tell me what time framework? (12-second
pause)
ELIAS: Early 1900s.
MIKE: Okay, alright. And then, do I have a focus with Seth
as ... my impression is that we were fishermen. (Pause)
ELIAS: Correct.
MIKE: Okay. And then, how many focuses do I have as a samurai?
(Pause)
ELIAS: Four.
MIKE: Four, okay. That cleared a bunch of stuff up.
Alright, and then Joseph, my focus in New Zealand ... I know when I asked
you last time about his auditioning or whatever for that movie, you said
that he made an attempt. But at that time, I assumed that meant he
didn’t get the part, and I was wondering, did he get the part in the movie?
(Pause)
ELIAS: First express to me, what is your impression?
MIKE: My impression is, yes, he got the part.
ELIAS: And what is your impression of what you term to be the
part?
MIKE: As to what role he got?
ELIAS: Correct.
MIKE: I don’t know — like a background person or something.
ELIAS: You are correct.
MIKE: Okay, cool. I’m happy for him. Okay, now I have
a couple more focus questions. I’m trying to figure out these focuses
of relative fame. Do I have a focus as a magician? (Pause)
ELIAS: Yes.
MIKE: And then a focus of relative fame with ... I’m not sure
what instrument, but a stringed instrument player? (Pause)
ELIAS: Cello, yes.
MIKE: Okay, cello. An antiquities dealer? (Pause)
ELIAS: Yes.
MIKE: Okay, and a focus as a lawyer, and my impression as to why
he was relatively famous was because he was known for his ruthlessness,
or his ruthless tactics. (Pause)
ELIAS: Correct.
MIKE: Okay, and one more. Do I have a focus as an architect?
(Pause)
ELIAS: Yes.
MIKE: Okay. This architect, was he in Egypt? (Pause)
ELIAS: Yes.
MIKE: Okay, alright. Did he help with the pyramids? (Pause)
ELIAS: Yes.
MIKE: Okay, alright. Now I have a question for ... I made
contact with an individual. I don’t know his last name, but he’s
in Germany and his name is Stefan. I talked to him a couple of times
briefly. I hope you know who I’m talking about. I offered to
get his essence name and family and alignment, and I was wondering if you
could give those to me. (Pause)
ELIAS: Very well. Essence name, Shri Lu; S-H-R-I-capital-L-U.
MIKE: Okay, and the family and alignment?
ELIAS: Essence family, Sumafi; alignment, Borledim.
MIKE: Okay, alright. Now I can start on these other questions.
As we move throughout the shift and whatsuch ... and I managed to answer
part of my question the other day, but I’d still like to hear your answer.
As the shift progresses — the insertion of it — and we become more accepting
of ourselves and our abilities and whatsuch, will there be a more frequent
shift in the aspects of self?
ELIAS: As to a shifting of the positions of aspects?
MIKE: Yes.
ELIAS: This is dependent upon the individual.
MIKE: That was the answer I gave myself. Okay. (Elias chuckles)
As to my focus now ... I’m really interested in this aspect thing.
Am I, as a focus now, shifting aspects of myself on a regular basis, or
more than most people? I don’t know if this is an explanation to
that or whatever, but I know we’ve briefly touched on it before, but I
always get this thing like I’m fragmenting or something, and after our
last session, and talking about intent and aspects of creativity within
self and all that stuff, I figured that maybe this might be an explanation,
because I’m shifting positions of aspects on a regular basis. Would
that be true?
ELIAS: Partially. Now; let me also express to you that as
you “shift the aspects of self,” as you express, you are moving the primary
position of the aspects of self in relation to those that may allow the
expression of some latent qualities, but those that also hold close qualities
to the one aspect that you are familiar with.
In this, let me explain that within each individual in your physical
dimension, as you manifest, there are, in a manner of speaking, groups
of aspects that may express outwardly and objectively very similarly, but
that do exhibit some differences and some qualities that may be viewed
as latent or unexpressed in the other aspects within the particular group.
Now; in each of these groups of aspects, there are many, many, many
aspects of you. Therefore, you may be altering the position of the
aspects of yourself into the primary position, and you may be exchanging
with many different aspects of yourself in this primary position, but continue
to view your focus as uninterrupted and continue to create a familiar sense
of self, so to speak.
Now; as you move your attention to different groups of aspects of yourself,
you may be creating a movement of turning your attention to a different
type of aspect of yourself and placing that in the primary position, and
moving in a type of exchange of positions with that aspect and all of the
aspects in that group, and you may recognize some quite unfamiliar qualities
and expressions of yourself.
In these situations, individuals may objectively express that they do
not feel like themselves. They do not recognize some of their own
behaviors, and there may be some expressions that are more extensive than
merely not feeling as yourself, but in which you create an actual blocking
of objective memory.
You are not creating this type of exchange. You are exploring
the aspects of self within the group of aspects that is familiar to you,
but it is also noticeable to you that you may be creating this action of
exchanging positions with different aspects of yourself, even within that
group which is familiar to you objectively.
Are you understanding?
MIKE: Yes. Maybe along the same lines ... and I notice
sometimes now, and before I encountered this information, and occasionally
in this last couple of years, that I’ve sort of suppressed it — I don’t
know why, but I have — and it’s beginning to emerge a little bit now, and
it’s a little bit unfamiliar because it’s not something I’m used to, because
it’s been 2 or 3 years that I’ve been pushing it away.
But it’s — and I have to express natural, or I think it’s natural —
a knack for being quick-witted, and also being, I guess I could say, to
the point, as some would term it, and when I say this, I’m talking to the
magnitude of people jumping to the defense, and getting upset and offended,
and whatever else they get. I’ve noticed how at times this movement
is influenced by an automatic response, or related otherwise to a belief
system. But for the most part, I feel it’s natural.
The only judgment that comes out of this behavior of mine is the judgment
I put on myself for saying or doing many of these things, not on the person
that I’m saying or doing whatever about. But when I’m saying or doing
these things, it’s more like I find it funny, and it’s not because I’m
judging the other person; I could care less what they’re doing or saying.
I just say something or whatever because I find it funny. But the
judgment that comes out of it plays on me because of what I said or did,
‘cause I feel bad afterwards.
I was wondering, would this characteristic qualify as a natural movement
in my focus, or is this like a result of belief systems or something?
‘Cause it bothers me sometimes, because I end up falling into the trap
of duplicity.
ELIAS: I shall express to you that within your focus, it is a
natural movement. Now express to me why you create this judgment,
and [why you] express to yourself that this movement is unacceptable.
MIKE: Because a lot of the time — and I realize it in the moment,
but I still do it anyway — I accept what people are saying about why I’m
doing this, like, “You’re only saying that because you’re upset.
You’re only saying that because you don’t understand. That was quite
rude. That was bad of you to say. How could you say something
like that? How could you do something like that? Why would
you do something like that?” Stuff like that. So it’s like
I catch myself, I stop myself, I shut myself down, and I go into the thing
of just questioning myself as to why I did or said some of those things,
because I convince myself that they’re not necessary to say or do.
ELIAS: And without the convincing of yourself that your expression
is unnecessary, what is your assessment of why your expression may be unacceptable?
MIKE: I don’t know. I think for the most part, why I shut
it down or suppress it is because I equate the action with non-acceptance.
ELIAS: Of other individuals.
MIKE: Right.
ELIAS: And this is reinforced by the expressions of the other
individuals.
MIKE: Right.
ELIAS: Let me express to you, Mikah, you may be expressing a natural
movement within your focus, and you may be creating outward behaviors that
may not necessarily be expressing a judgment in relation to other individuals.
You may be merely adding voice to an observation, and another individual
may interpret that and may perceive that expression as a judgment.
Now; where is the responsibility in the exchange?
MIKE: (Laughing) On me!
ELIAS: And what is your responsibility to?
MIKE: (Laughing) For everyone I’m talking to!
ELIAS: AH! To be assuming responsibility for every other
individual and how they create their reality!
MIKE: (Laughing) Exactly!
ELIAS: Ah! Very well! (Mike laughs) Now that we have
brought clarity to the action and your responsibility in the interactions
with all other individuals, we need not be discussing this subject matter
any longer! (Chuckling)
MIKE: (Laughing) Okay, but really ... so this is the thing
of personal responsibility again?
ELIAS: I am understanding that within physical focus, your belief
systems are held quite strongly, and this creates an atmosphere, so to
speak, in which you present great challenges to yourselves in the actual
expression of acceptance of self.
Now; your choice of behavior to be verbally, outwardly expressing an
observation — or not to be — is merely a choice. Where it becomes
an issue, so to speak, is the point at which it begins to create conflict
within you.
In this, you are noticing — and have been noticing — that you are experiencing
conflict in relation to your behavior. You are attempting to be recognizing
and identifying the source, so to speak, of your conflict.
In this, no, it is not merely the expression of personal responsibility
for other individuals that is affecting of your choices in this situation
or in these types of situations. You also are concerning yourself
with the perception of other individuals — how other individuals view you.
In this, you equate how other individuals view you and how they assess
you with how you assess yourself. Therefore, it is also a question
of value, of worth of self, for as you are equating the expressions of
other individuals as the measure of your value and your worth and your
acceptability, you are turning your attention outwardly, and you are not
focusing upon self.
Now; in this particular situation, you ARE moving your attention to
self — which I am acknowledging of — for you are questioning. You
are questioning your behavior and your expression. You are inquiring
of me, “Is this a natural movement? Is this a natural expression
that I create within this focus, or is this an expression and a behavior
that I am creating in tremendous influence of my beliefs? Am I discounting
of other individuals?”
In this, you ARE looking to self. You are questioning, and you
are seeking the answers to these questions.
I have expressed to you, in this particular focus, yes, this is a natural
movement, a natural expression of you in this focus. It is not necessarily
a projection of a judgment, but merely a verbalization, an outward expression
of observation.
MIKE: Okay.
ELIAS: In this, you are merely outwardly expressing what you are
observing, in like manner to a verbalization of any type of observation.
It may be an observation of a creature — a rabbit crossing a field — and
your noticing of that, your attention which is directed to that, and your
outward expression of it.
I am quite understanding of the action and the behavior that you are
questioning, and I may express to you also the recognition that many times,
there is in actuality little or no thought process which accompanies these
expressions. They are merely observations that you are expressing
outwardly.
MIKE: Okay, good.
ELIAS: Now; I may also express to you that you are, in response
and reaction to that observation, incorporating the expressions of other
individuals, attempting to justify self as if you had expressed some wrong,
and you are discounting of self, equating yourself and your value with
the dislike of the other individual of your expression.
How another individual receives your expression is their responsibility,
but you also are influenced very strongly by mass belief systems, and concerning
yourself with how other individuals perceive you is quite strong.
MIKE: Yes. Okay, thank you very much.
ELIAS: You are quite welcome.
MIKE: I have three more questions, and then I have some questions
for Jene.
I’ve had a couple of interesting experiences, as far as jobs go, in
the last month, or two or three months or so. First, the last three
or four job applications ... and these are only the applications that have
come to my attention, so I don’t know about the other fifteen or so that
I’ve placed in the last year. But it’s come to my attention that
the last three or four job applications that I have put in have either
been misread, misplaced, or are mysteriously missing — they’ve disappeared.
So, I found out that people haven’t been getting my job applications.
One of the jobs I was actually quite excited to be taking because I
figured it would be a fun and creative way to get my membership back at
the gym, and the day before I go in to get the job, because they said they
had an opening, she tells me that they no longer have a job opening.
So, this caused me to notice what was going on, and I was wondering, what
am I creating that’s not allowing me to get a job?
ELIAS: What is your impression?
MIKE: The only thing I can come up with is that I may — somewhere,
somehow — feel that it may interfere with something that I’m doing now.
I don’t know; I’m kind of cloudy on it. It’s very confusing.
ELIAS: That is your guess. That is not your impression,
and I shall accept your statement that you are cloudy as to your impression!
In this, I may express to you a suggestion that you allow yourself to
view the types of jobs, so to speak, that you are applying for, and the
expressions of qualifications and duties that are expected within those
jobs, and in this, as you view the types of jobs that you have applied
for, allow yourself to view self.
You are engaging a tremendous movement in the direction of self-discovery
in relation to value and worth, and in this, you are creating imagery in
every area of your focus presently that shall provide you with an opportunity
to view this issue in many, many, many, many directions and from many different
angles, for you have chosen to be addressing to this issue, as you recognize
the value and importance of this particular issue and addressing to it.
In this, you may allow yourself to view how these particular jobs that
you are applying for reinforce the position that you have already created
within yourself and your assessment of worth.
MIKE: Okay, alright. That makes a lot of sense for a lot
of stuff. I’m pretty sure that now I know why I’m battling with myself
in this one issue. It didn’t even come to me when I was writing down
what I was thinking about asking.
Here’s a crystal ball question, but I feel that the answer is going
to evolve into another question which I think will be helpful, so I hope
you’re accommodating with the crystal ball question.
I’m looking to be applying ... and I haven’t told anyone yet.
All anyone knows is that ... which this in itself, me not telling anyone
about this, should be a clue to myself, in the question of worth and not
trusting self. I’m going to be applying to Columbia University, and
I’ve been telling people that I’m going to be applying for next year, but
what I’m really doing is, I’m applying for next semester.
And my question is ... because there has been a mini-battle going on
in my head, and I’ve been ... for the last couple of months I’ve been trying
to differentiate between impressions and influences of belief systems,
and just conflict within personality, and all that stuff in my head, trying
to differentiate the different voices. This one is a tough one for
me because I can’t differentiate which is which — which is my impression
and which is what I’m telling myself I can’t do when I really can do it,
that sort of thing.
My question is, is it more probable or less probable that I would be
accepted for next semester?
ELIAS: This is quite dependent upon your movement. As I
have expressed to you within this discussion, you are addressing to self.
You are beginning movement into a recognition of what you are addressing
to. You are beginning to allow yourself the objective realization
of what creates many of your obstacles, that being this issue of worth,
which you project outwardly in the expression of personal responsibility
to other individuals, and this distracts your attention to self.
But you are moving in the direction of addressing to this issue.
Now; I may express to you, as you continue — IF you continue — to be
addressing to this and turning your attention to self, and allowing yourself
a reprieve from your continuous expression of personal responsibility in
relation to other individuals, I may express to you that in what you may
be creating, it may be more probable that you shall allow yourself to create
this movement.
I may also express to you that if you continue to be creating movement
in expressing outwardly and not turning your attention to self, and assuming
personal responsibility for other individuals, it may be less probable,
for your attention shall not be centered upon self. It shall be held
in the direction of other individuals and their wants and what you perceive
to be their needs.
MIKE: Okay.
ELIAS: Therefore, the choice is yours, my friend.
MIKE: Okay. One more small question. It’s more of
a curiosity. After you had the session with Tom about the fluctuation
in essence names, I was curious ... I’m sure everyone’s essence name fluctuates
on a continual basis.
ELIAS: You are correct.
MIKE: So I was wondering, is there a tone that my essence name
fluctuates between other than ... well, other than Mikah, obviously.
I mean, is there like one tone, like on a more regular basis, that it fluctuates
between?
ELIAS: No.
MIKE: No. So it pretty much stays Mikah all the time?
ELIAS: There is a fluctuation, but it is not a constant.
What is the constant is the tone of Mikah. The other fluctuating
tones are quite varying.
MIKE: Okay. Just out of curiosity, could you tell me just
one of them that my tone fluctuates to? I’m just curious.
ELIAS: Most recent fluctuation in tone may be translated into
your language as Milsh.
MIKE: Milsh?
ELIAS: Correct.
MIKE: Interesting. Okay.
Alright, now I have some questions for Rudim. One of the questions
is, why is she experiencing or why is there a temporary reprieve in her
doing the numerology charts and counseling that she was doing? Why
has it stopped?
ELIAS: For she has created this. You may express to Rudy
to be looking to self and allowing the discovery of why certain expressions
that are familiar may be temporarily discontinued. I may express
to you, you may also express to Rudy that the looking to self is key —
a genuine looking to self, without outside influences, without outside
focal points.
MIKE: Okay. The next question is, are we — and I’m assuming
she meant herself, myself, and Candace — characters in Oversoul Seven?
ELIAS: I shall express to you, all of you may be expressed as
characters within these stories. They are not in actuality assigned
to any one particular individual.
I am aware that I have expressed previously that I have created an inspiration
with the individual that is known as the author of these books, in modeling
certain characters in relation to certain individuals that have been interactive
with this forum from the onset of this phenomenon. But these are
merely models, and those characteristics of the characters within the books
may be applied to all individuals.
MIKE: Okay.
ELIAS: Therefore, if you or Candace or Rudy view yourselves in
strong association with a particular character within these books, it is
not an accident.
MIKE: Okay. I have one more for Jene, and then I’m gonna
ask for Mary back so she can shut off the tape, because I have a couple
more questions.
Jene would like to know, what is her issue with cords, necklaces, electrical
wires, vacuum cords, et cetera? She doesn’t like them. They
bother her.
ELIAS: This may be also explained in relation to another focus
which she is allowing to be influencing, and if turning her attention to
self and allowing herself to SPEND SOME TIME WITH SELF WITHOUT OUTSIDE
DISTRACTION, she may be investigating of other focuses and may offer herself
some information which may be beneficial; NOT that the other focus is creating
this issue, so to speak, but that she is allowing this imagery to be created
within her focus to be motivating her to be investigating.
MIKE: Okay. For the moment, I will say good-bye. If
you could return Mary for me, she can shut off the tape, and then I’ll
talk with you again.
ELIAS: Very well.
Elias departs at 11:16 a.m.
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