Saturday, October 7, 2000-3
© 2001 (Group/New Jersey)
Participants:  Mary (Michael), Ben (Albert), Curtis (Juva), Frank (Christian/X-tian), Jim (Marion), John (Vito), Linda (Robert), Luanne (Inez), Marj (Grady), Pat (Treice), Robin (Renea), Rodney (Zacharie), Ted (Cara), and eleven new participants: Anne, Art, David, Deborah, Eileen, Elizabeth (Elizabeth), Jose (Darrith), Marc, Marion (Li-tah), Rich, and Robert (Ben-adi).
Elias arrives at 5:47 p.m. (Arrival time is 23 seconds)

ELIAS:  Good evening!

GROUP:  Good evening, Elias!

ELIAS:  And welcome to you all this evening!

This evening, I shall be offering the forum to all of you, and allowing you to be presenting your questions, if you are so choosing, and I shall be offering my responses to your questions.

TED:  Elias, remember back when you came to New Jersey the last time, in Ocean City, we offered you a crystal ball which was defective?

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha!  I am aware!

TED:  You suggested that we might provide you with a cauldron so you could conjure up some parlor tricks, so we brought you a cauldron!

ELIAS:  Ah! (Laughter)  Very well!  I shall be practicing with this apparatus to be conjuring our spells and some of your parlor tricks!  Have you provided instructions?

TED:  Of course.  They’re buried inside of the cauldron.

ELIAS:  Ah, very good.

FEMALE:  Under the candy! (Laughter)

ELIAS:  This is quite acceptable!

MARJ:  There’s a nice witch in there for you too.

ELIAS:  Ah!  How appropriate! (Chuckling, and the group laughs)

MARJ:  All the new people probably want their essence names and family alignments and so on — anybody that doesn’t have them.

FEMALE:  They don’t even know what they are! (Laughter)

ELIAS:  And if they are so choosing, they may present this to myself in their question!  Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! (Laughter)

CURTIS:  I’m Curtis.  Can I have my essence name and alignments? (Pause)

ELIAS:  Essence name, Juva; J-U-V-A. (joo’vah)  Essence family, Sumari; alignment in this focus, Zuli.

MALE:  Who’d have thought that?

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha ha!  Orientation, for the interest and benefit of Grady.... (Everybody cracks up)

MARJ:  Well, you know me — I’m always being helpful!

ELIAS:  Quite! (Laughter)  Common. (Chuckling)

CURTIS:  Thank you.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome.

JOSE:  Elias, my name is Jose.  What would be my essence family name and alignment, please?

ELIAS:  Very well. (Pause)  Essence name, Darrith; D-A-R-R-I-T-H. (dar’ith)  Essence family, Sumafi; alignment in this focus, Milumet; orientation, common.

JOSE:  Thank you.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome.

RODNEY:  Excuse me, Elias.  I’d like to tell the group to identify yourselves when you speak, so that Vicki can transcribe this, okay?  That’s the only way she knows who’s talking.

Vic’s note:  You are my hero, Rodney!

TED:  Thank you Rodney!

ELIAS:  HA HA HA HA HA! (Everybody cracks up)

RODNEY:  That was Ted! (Laughter)

MALE:  Elias, in our last session, you said that my wife and I, because we’ve felt we had a common bond and we’ve known it since we were kids, were ... counterpart action.  Could you explain that more for me?  My feeling is that we’ve had prior lives before — or future lives, I’m not sure — but you simply said that it was a form of counterpart action.

ELIAS:  Correct.  You are also correct that you engage other focuses together, which you hold the ability to be investigating, if you are so choosing, and I may be encouraging of you to do.

As to the offering of information that you engage counterpart action, in this, you do not engage counterpart action, in your terms, “because of” your choice to be creating relationship with each other, or that you have engaged other focuses together.

You have chosen to be engaging counterpart action in this focus to be offering the expressions to each other of latent qualities that each of you individually express, and offer the experience to the other.  Those qualities that you do not express within your focus, your partner is expressing of, and vice versa.

You create a complement to each other in energy and experience to offer both of you a fullness within this choice of relationship, allowing each of you to be experiencing more fully the expressions within this particular focus that you have chosen without entirely physically creating all of those experiences individually.

MALE:  I think I got that. (Laughing, and Elias chuckles)  So, we have prior lives or future lives ... and/or future lives?

ELIAS:  Yes, both.

MALE:  Okay... (inaudible comment, and Elias chuckles).  Could you give us our alignment and family names and so forth?  The last time you gave it, you were giving it to a large group, and we’re not sure which was which, whose was whose.

ELIAS:  Ah, you may be inquiring of Michael in this association, for he holds this information.

MALE:  Okay. (Elias chuckles)

JOHN:  Elias, it’s John/Vito.  How are you?

ELIAS:  (In unison with John)  As always! (Laughter)

JOHN:  I’d like to ask the alignment and orientation of Ariella; the incoming essence, I guess you would say.

ELIAS:  Ah, the alignment and orientation!  For I have expressed to you that this alignment and orientation was not chosen at our previous meeting.

JOHN:  Right.

ELIAS:  In this, I may express to you that the orientation of this individual is chosen to be common.  The alignment is fluctuating.

JOHN:  Between all of the alignments, or is it narrowed down?

ELIAS:  No, not between all of the alignments.  There is a fluctuation between a choice of alignment to the family of Borledim and the family of Zuli, but the choice has not been implemented yet.

JOHN:  Okay, thank you.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome ... and I shall be informing you in the time framework in which the choice is created! (Laughter)

Let me also express to you that this incoming focus, so to speak, may not choose an alignment immediately, for at times, individuals may not be choosing an alignment in the immediate action of entering into physical manifestation.  At times, an individual focus may not choose an orientation immediately.

But generally speaking, each manifestation shall choose these types of alignments, which are expressed quite strongly throughout an individual focus, within a relatively small time framework, if not prior to the entry within physical focus.

JOHN:  Okay, thank you.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome.

JOHN:  I have another question, if everybody doesn’t mind, about the tile I created.  It’s on the website, and it’s .  It’s purple with like three black brackets, and there’s kind of a glowing around it.  I think Ron made it for me.  I described what it was, and he sent it back.  I think it’s like a transition.  I forget what Ron expressed he thought it was, but if you could comment on it?  I know there’s no right or wrong, but....

ELIAS:  What is your impression?

JOHN:  I think it’s a transition of the four steps into acceptance.  It depends how you look at it, how you perceive it.  If you look at it from the top, it looks like it’s going in ... if you look at it like a gateway, in a manner of speaking, I guess you could call it.

ELIAS:  And shall you make an attempt in an entry to the game? (Grinning, and laughter)

JOHN:  Sure!  As far as family, I’m thinking Sumafi.  That’s the first thing that popped in my mind.

ELIAS:  And I shall express to you, one point! (The group applauds enthusiastically)  And so it shall be entered! (Laughter)

RICH:  Hi, I’m Rich.  When I inquired about what you would be doing today, they said you might have some advice about how to get through the earthly plane, if I’m paraphrasing correctly.  Because a lot of times, I feel like I can’t make sense of like, why am I here, number one, and as far as just making my way in this world, it doesn’t seem to make sense to me, with all the things that are going on, you know, the violence and everything in the world, and all the horrible things that are happening.  It just seems like ... there doesn’t seem to be like a point to existence sometimes.

From your point of view, does it make any more sense to you?  What advice do you have for like the travelers that are traveling now, as far as making our way, like connecting with spiritual ... like can we call on certain spirits to help us with things, and will they come to us?  I know I asked you like several questions in one! (Laughter)

ELIAS:  You are quite correct! (Grinning and chuckling, and more laughter)  Very well.

Why are you here?  Why have you manifest within this physical dimension?  Is the purpose of this action clearer to myself than it may be to you within this present moment?  I may express, quite!  Yes, it is quite clear to me why you have manifest within this physical dimension, and I view that it is quite unclear to you why you have manifest in this physical dimension.

In simplicity, you have manifest in this physical dimension merely to explore and experience.

You are not engaging a mission.  You are not placed here by any higher power.  You are not subject to this physical dimension as identifiable by a lower or learning plane, for you are not learning.  You are not teaching; you are not learning.  You are experiencing.

And I may acknowledge you in your identification of terminology, for you are, quite accurately, a traveler.  You are a traveler through this physical dimension, choosing to be exploring all of the wonders of how you may create a reality in whichever manner you are choosing, and all of the myriads of experiences that you may explore in relation to the design of this physical dimension.

This physical dimension is designed by you collectively to be experimenting and exploring through the channels, so to speak, of emotion and sexuality, and coupling those with a design of filtration of how you perceive all of your reality, which is defined as your incorporation of belief systems.

Within this particular physical dimension, the basic elements of this reality are belief systems, are the design of sexuality, and the exploration of emotional qualities and expressions.

Now; beyond this, it is the incorporation of your belief systems that influence you in the thought process that you have been placed in this physical reality, and that you may be called upon in some manner to be accomplishing some mission, some higher purpose.

In actuality, you already are your highest purpose.  Therefore, there is no action to accomplish in becoming greater or better or higher than you already are.

You become confused in this physical reality, for you have created expressions of separation.

You are an identification of consciousness.  You are all of consciousness.  You are identifiable, as consciousness individually, as an essence.  That essence is the identification of personality, a quality which defines you uniquely as an expression of consciousness, but simultaneously, you are all of consciousness.

In this, you occupy every aspect of consciousness.  Whether you identify a particular area of consciousness as physical or nonphysical, you are it.

You are not here IN a place.  You are here AS the place.

All that you view around you, all that exists within what you know objectively as your universe, IS YOU.  It is not outside of you.  It is not that you are placed within it as a small entity occupying this space, but that you ARE that space, and more.

What you identify presently as you, in this moment, in this physical manifestation, is a focus of attention.  That focus of attention creates a singularity in its concentration, and therefore appears to be separated from all else, within what you know.  But in actuality, it is merely the designation of that focus of attention that creates that illusion of separateness.

Now; I may also express to you, there are other essences that are not physically focused, or that may be physically focused, but not in this particular physical dimension.

There are many, many, many physical dimensions which are occupied by many, many, many types of manifestations.  There are many areas of consciousness that are non-physically focused.

What I am expressing in that identification is that the attentions are not focused in a manner in which they interact physically or in conjunction with physical matter.

This particular attention IS focused within a physical dimension.  You create physical matter.  You have created a physical body and form which you identify as you, but you are much greater than merely the expression of that one physical form.

You have chosen to be creating that physical form and participating in this physical reality to experience, to explore.

May you be interactive with essences — that you term to be spirits — which are non-physically focused?  Yes.  May you be aware objectively that you are interactive with these non-physically focused essences?  Yes.  May they be helpful to you?  At times, if you are allowing.  Shall they be responsive to you?  Yes.

I am a presentment of an example of that question.  Collectively, many, many, many of you, within consciousness, as manifestations of this physical dimension, have asked for helpfulness, have asked for information, and I, as one essence in conjunction with many other essences, have responded and continue to respond.

But I am not merely the only essence that shall be responsive.  There are myriads of essences that are continuously responding to energy and inquiries that you project, and I may express to you that within this time framework, this action occurs more frequently, for you collectively have chosen to be creating an action which we term to be a shift in consciousness.  This is evidenced throughout your globe presently, and becomes more so, day by day.

In this, many of the actions of this shift in consciousness are confusing objectively, and many are creating of expressions of conflict.  Many of the movements of this shift in consciousness create beyond conflict and manifest in trauma, and therefore, you have expressed individually and collectively that you wish to be receiving information that may be lessening of your conflict or your trauma as you continue movement within this shift in consciousness, and you have requested helpfulness.

The expression of helpfulness is not merely offered in interaction of communication or information, but in actual offerings of energy that essences express and project through layers of consciousness to you within this physical dimension to be helpful in your movement.

This is your choice, that you have engaged this action of this shift in consciousness, and in this time framework now, as you have moved linearly into your new millennium, you also are engaging the actual insertion of this shift in consciousness into your objective reality, your official reality.  Therefore, many more manifestations materialize, for in actuality, you become more aware, and this is the point.  This is what you have chosen.  This is your design.

This is what you are moving into quite purposefully: widening your awareness, opening your periphery within consciousness, and allowing yourself objectively — not merely in concept or theory and not merely subjectively, but objectively, within your waking state — to be aware of much more of you as essence, of consciousness in its entirety, and of your ability to be creating and manipulating in energy within all of consciousness.

You have created limitations within your physical reality for an extensive time framework quite purposefully, and this is not bad or wrong.  But you are choosing a new experience now, and in this new experience, you choose to offer yourselves more freedom, and in the expression of freedom, you choose to be incorporating more of reality in this physical dimension.

Now; I have stated that this action also incorporates trauma, and you are experiencing and witnessing trauma within your world.  How shall you move to be eliminating these expressions of trauma and conflict?  By familiarizing yourself with you, by familiarizing yourself with your beliefs, and allowing yourself to move into the expression of acceptance — acceptance and trust of self, acceptance of your beliefs; not elimination of self or of beliefs, but acceptance of those beliefs and of self.

This is the movement WITHIN your beliefs, the knowing that you hold beliefs that are basic to the design of this particular physical dimension, and not creating judgments upon those beliefs but allowing yourself the recognition of them, and in that action, eliminating the automatic response that you create in relation to them.

To this point, you have held belief systems in this reality and you have automatically responded to them, which eliminates many of your choices.  It narrows your field upon which you may play.  It also creates obstacles within your movement.

In this, as you become aware of the belief systems that you hold, you also recognize the automatic dictation that these beliefs express to your perception, and as you become more aware of this dictating by your beliefs in automatic action, you may allow yourself to choose, and choose other expressions, and not limit yourself to those that are familiar to you in the automatic responses.

Is this answering of your question?

RICH:  Yep! (Everybody cracks up)  Thank you.

ELIAS:  (Grinning)  Very well!  You are quite welcome.  Ha ha ha!

We shall engage one more question, and we shall break.  Therefore, you may offer one question before we are temporarily disengaging.

PAT:  I have a question about what you just said.  My name is Pat.  If we achieve an increased awareness as you are describing, will our individual perception of the trauma that is going on in the rest of the globe change, or will we still perceive that as trauma, and just not experience it personally?

ELIAS:  Ah.  As you widen your awareness, you also allow yourself to turn your perception.  Quite briefly, as I have stated previously, your perception is an instrument.  It is the instrument that creates all of your reality.  Your beliefs are the influence upon that instrument.  As you widen your awareness and as you incorporate acceptance of your beliefs, your perception is altered.  It moves.

Your perception is not a rigid instrument.  It holds the capability of being quite flexible, and in actuality alters quite frequently, and may alter instantaneously.  At times, it may be challenging to you to be altering your perception, and you may be experiencing difficulty, for you are attempting to be forcing your energy.  Within other times, you may be instantaneously altering your perception in quite dramatic manners.

As to your perception of what is occurring within your world and the trauma that is being experienced by individuals and groups, as you alter your perception in your awareness, you are not creating an action that eliminates your emotion, you are not creating an action that eliminates your preference, and you are not creating an action that eliminates your thought process or your opinion.  You may engage an opinion without judgment.

I may express to you, for the most part, most individuals have not incorporated an experience yet that may offer an objective understanding of that statement, but in actuality, you may continue to engage an opinion without a judgment, which is the incorporation of your opinion in acceptance.

The trauma shall not be affecting of you, IF it is affecting of you, in the same manner, for you eliminate the aspect of judgment, and in the elimination of judgment, you may continue to hold a preference, but are not creating a reaction to choice, for you are recognizing in genuineness, within your reality, the reality of choice.

You may hold a preference to not be engaging a specific action.  You may hold a preference within yourself to not engage an action of tearing your flesh.  Within your preferences, you choose not to engage this action.  You may continue to hold this preference without judgment, within self or within the association of another individual or any other expression of consciousness.

You may view the action occurring.  You may allow yourself a thought process in relation to the action.  You may continue to choose not to engage the action.  But simultaneously, you create a genuine awareness and recognition that there is no right or wrong or good or bad in relation to that action, with yourself or with any other expression of consciousness; not merely that you may not be bothered by another individual’s engagement of this activity, but that it shall bother YOU to be engaging this activity, but that you genuinely express no judgment to yourself either.

You merely create a preference, which is the expression of your choice, for your choices are all expressions of your preference, for you do not create choices that you do not prefer, even in the choices that you view to be undesirable.  Were you not preferring to choose them, you would not choose them, and you DO choose them.

You also may engage emotional expressions without judgment, without the association of good or bad or better or worse or right or wrong.

This is unfamiliar within your reality — for the most part, although not entirely — within this present now, for this is not how you have engaged creating your reality to this point.

But you are already beginning.  You are already, each of you, beginning movement into this type of awareness, and presenting yourselves with examples and experiences in which you are lessening your judgments, and you are allowing yourselves to view experiences as choices, and choices as neutral.

PAT:  Thank you.

ELIAS:  You are very welcome.  We shall break, and you may continue with your questions if you are so choosing. (Grinning)

GROUP:  Thank you, Elias.

BREAK:   6:34 p.m.
RESUME:  7:32 p.m. (Arrival time is 18 seconds)

ELIAS:  Continuing!

RODNEY:  Elias, I have a question.

ELIAS:  Ah!  And I am experiencing surprise! (Everybody cracks up)

RODNEY:  Thank you!

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome, my friend!

RODNEY:  It is Zacharie, Vicki!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha!

RODNEY:  We’re coming on that time of year where the celebration of the ... one of the aspects of Halloween is the thinning of the veil between the living and the dead, so to speak.

ELIAS:  (Dryly)  Ah.  Myself as case in point. (Much laughter)

RODNEY:  And this celebration is actually, I think, pretty uniform throughout many parts of the world at this time of year, and I was wondering if there are any aspects of our weather or of our culture or of our whatever that gives some substance to this idea at this time of year, and perhaps why did it come about, because it reminds me of the aspect of the shift in consciousness where we will be experiencing a greater view of other focuses and the like.

ELIAS:  And dancing with ghosts! (Grinning)

RODNEY:  And dancing with spooks, yes! (Laughter)

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

I shall express to you, Zacharie, in actuality, the celebration of this day, so to speak, in the configuration of your culture, is for the most part unique to your culture.

RODNEY:  Oh, I thought it was also true that like the Irish have a celebration like this, and the Germans have a celebration.

ELIAS:  There is an observance, within other cultural groups in some areas of your globe, of a recognition of the individuals that you define as passing into death, and this is associated quite strongly with religious belief systems.

But as to your celebration of this particular holiday, although it is incorporated in part, to lesser degree, in some other cultures within your world, it is in actuality an establishment of this particular culture and this particular country, so to speak, which is born of the religious belief systems that have been incorporated in this particular culture differently than they have been incorporated, for the most part, throughout your globe.

This particular holiday is associated with what you may term to be the establishment of your Christian belief systems.  There is a recognition in similarity within other establishments of religious organizations, in a manner of speaking, but it is not expressed to the degree that you afford in attention in this culture to this particular holiday, and in association with the type of Christianity which is expressed within this particular culture.

This particular belief system of Christianity may be exhibited in many, many cultures throughout your globe, and it may be incorporated into the belief systems of most of the countries and groups of individuals throughout your globe in many different types of expressions and interpretations.

This particular expression that you are referring to in actuality has been established in conjunction with the religious beliefs expressed through the Christianity that is exhibited through what you identify as the Roman Church of Catholicism, but has been incorporated in a different manner within your culture.

It has been expanded upon, in a manner of speaking, within the beliefs in association with the deviation of that expression of Christianity, in that which you now identify as the Lutheran or Protestant aspect of Christianity.

In this, within the early establishment of your culture that you recognize presently, the belief systems of the individuals in the time framework were expressed quite strongly, not in association with the Roman Catholicism, but within your unique cultural expression that you identify as Puritanism.

In this, as you have incorporated many aspects of fear and superstition in association with these beliefs, you have developed, in a manner of speaking, your own new unique brand of Christianity, which is more unique to this particular culture than any other culture throughout your globe, and the expressions of that religious establishment incorporate different colors, in a manner of speaking, different hues, and are more expressive and more dramatic than some other cultures which incorporate similar belief systems.

Vic’s note:  Boy, is Elias long-winded in this session or what!

ELIAS:  As to the identification of this holiday without its dramatic incorporation, and the observance, so to speak, of this holiday, it has been established not as a link between yourselves and those individuals that you view as dead, but as a reinforcement of the separation and as a reinforcement of the division that you create within your beliefs, as setting apart any individual that has engaged this action of death as moving into a position of “greater than.”

Therefore, the holiday is established not in the expression of this shift in consciousness, but in the expression to be acknowledging to yourselves the powerfulness of energy and movement and abilities of those individuals that engage death as defined as more powerful than yourselves, and the establishment of a belief which is rooted in duplicity and discounting of the individual which participates within physical focus.

For it is a discounting of yourselves that you offer attention, remembering, and homage to those individuals that have engaged this action of death, in the recognition that they are greater than yourselves and hold abilities that you do not, and may be helpful to you if you are subject to them and to their dictates, for you are “less than.”

This is in actuality the establishment of the belief which is associated with this particular holiday.

It is not a recalling of the dead in celebration.  It is not the recognition that this is merely a movement from one area of consciousness to another.  It is NOT the expression in recognition that there be a thin veil between yourselves and any individual that may be deemed as dead.  It is in actuality MORE of an expression of separation.

RODNEY:  Okay.  Was it at one time, in other cultures?  Was it more of a reverence or a memory of death in the thinness of the veil that exists?  I understand what you’re saying about our culture.  I’m asking, was it different in other cultures originally?

ELIAS:  As to the identification of thinness of veil, no.  As to a reverence to the identification and the memory of that which you deem to be the dead, yes.  And what is the expression of reverence?

RODNEY:  Well, I’m thinking of cultures where they go and dig up the bones of the dead people....

ELIAS:  What is the definition of reverence generally?

RODNEY:  Holding them as sacred.

ELIAS:  Quite, and what is this expression within you?  What does it deem you to be?

GROUP:  Less than.

ELIAS:  Quite, and therefore, it is a very strong expression of duplicity and discounting of the individual that participates in physical focus.

Any expression of reverence to individuals that have created the choice for death, for essences such as myself, for ANY individual — other than yourself — is an expression of discounting of yourself automatically, for it is an automatic setting of another expression of consciousness, be it physical or nonphysical, in raised position to yourself.  It is unnecessary to be expressing reverence to ANY expression of consciousness.

RODNEY:  Thank you, Elias.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome, my friend! (Laughter)

JOHN:  Elias, it’s John.  On a lighter note....

ELIAS:  Very well!

JOHN:  I would like to know the color and note that I am associated with in essence.

ELIAS:  And what is your impression? (Much laughter)  Or are you holding an expectation, my friend, that I shall merely present this information to you without any participation from yourself? (Everybody is cracking up)

JOHN:  The note would be G, and the color is either ... sometimes I think it’s red, and then I think it’s purple.

ELIAS:  I shall express to you, be acknowledging of yourself in your impressions.  In specific, I may express to you G minor.  In specific, I may express to you a shade of wine.

MALE:  Blush? (Laughter)

ELIAS:  Not blush!  This would be within the pink, which I am not expressing to you.  Therefore, shall we express, more of a Merlot? (The group cracks up)

Vic’s note:  I am guessing at some words here, as the group is laughing.  Usually I can read Elias’ lips during these times, but someone walked in front of the camera during Rodney’s last question, and the camera defocused, and never refocused again.  Arrgh!

JOHN:  And if I may add, I would like to ask you, what is the deal with spiders and me?  I have a great fear of spiders, and I thought or had an impression ... I have a focus in Peru that I know of, and I don’t know if I was bitten by a spider in Peru.  I’ve seen spiders in my house ever since I was little, and now I’ve moved into a different house and I have spiders.  I don’t kill them anymore; I try to catch them and let them go outside.  But if you could comment on that?

ELIAS:  I may express to you that you hold this incorporation of fear in relation to this particular creature in similarity to many other individuals.

(Humorously)  Now; I may offer to you a cosmic explanation (laughter) incorporating other-focus activity in which you have been traumatized by this small creature....

JOHN:  Not so small, I don’t think!

ELIAS:  (Dramatically)  And therefore, this is bleeding through into your present awareness and continues to be a source of conflict ... BUT! (Laughter)

I may express to you, in actuality, this small creature — regardless of your assessment of its size (laughter) — appears quite threatening to many individuals.

Now; this creature creates a reality within your physical dimension which is not objectively understood by you.  It also creates a reality which, in a manner of speaking, flies in the face of your beliefs, and how you assess the natural order, in your terms, of how “things,” so to speak, shall be manifest and function within your dimension.

Now; I may express to you, there are some individuals that hold no fear expression of these creatures.  There are also some individuals that hold no fear of the creature within your seas that you identify as sharks.  But for the most part, you — many, many, many of you — share this fear of these tiny creatures and these immense creatures, and the reason that you hold them as suspect is that you do not understand their function and their creation, and you hold no compassion for these particular creatures.

Now; in this, you hold no empathy — not empathic, but empathy — for either of these creatures.  This is an expression of a lack of understanding of experience.  It is outside of your design of your experience, and as you have created this separation which creates the illusion that there are entities outside of you that are not a part of you — those being sharks and spiders — in a manner of speaking, you are challenged in the comprehension of their existence within your reality.  You view each as holding the potential, regardless of size, to be quite dangerous and to be quite hurtful to you.

In this, as you assess that this is a creature that is holding the potential to be hurtful to you — and has expressed the creation of what you assess to be hurtful to any other creature that it encounters, even its own species — this is quite distasteful and distrustful to you.

Now; let me express to you, the reason it becomes distrustful to you is the belief system of duplicity, and how you view yourself.

These types of creatures create within your perception a threat, for you view in them and their behavior yourselves.  But within your beliefs, the behaviors of these creatures are unacceptable.  They are destructive.  They are hurtful.  They are suspicious.

Therefore, as you associate within your perception the similarity of your assessment of these creatures and yourself ... for you are quite influenced through duplicity of discounting yourselves through religious belief systems — of expressing that you are “less than,” that you are suspicious, that you are flawed, that you hold great potential for hurtfulness, that you are the most destructive creature upon your planet.

These are quite strong beliefs that you hold, and you all hold them.  They are mass belief systems, and as you continue to associate your viewing of yourself in this manner, you also view these particular creatures in this manner, for they exhibit similar behaviors and actions as do you.

They may, in your physical terms, turn upon their own species.  They may inflict harmfulness and even death upon themselves, and not as a merciful murderous act, but in mere function, and you view that you hold this same capability, and you view this to be very, very bad! (Laughter)  And as you view it to be very, very bad, you also view these creatures to be very, very bad.

This strikes in you fear, and fear is an expression of perceived threat.  As you perceive a threat within your reality, you create the expression of fear.

JOHN:  Okay, so that’s why they’ve been popping up around the house lately a little bit more, just to make me notice, or ...?

ELIAS:  To be noticing, and to be addressing to your association, and to be recognizing in genuineness the identification of victimhood.

Let me express to you also, another aspect that is reinforcing of your fear and your threat through the lack of understanding of these creatures is that they create behavior without emotion.

These creatures do not create interactions and behaviors within the belief of victim.  Even the victim is not a victim.  It is merely experiencing.  It has engaged interaction with another of its species, and has created a choice to be experiencing — without judgment, without emotion, and without the thought process that you attach to these actions.

This, in a manner of speaking, to an extent, is incomprehensible to you, for you view yourself to be a victim.  For you do not afford yourself what the tiny spider affords to itself, in the genuine knowing that it creates its reality in each moment in its entirety, and all that it creates is a choice.

But you do not create your reality in this manner, for you believe that you create certain aspects of your reality, and some aspects of your reality you do not create, and you fall prey and victim to.

FEMALE:  Elias, I have a question.  What’s the purpose of sexuality in our world?

ELIAS:  It is an exploration of expression and manifestation.  It is an exploration of manipulation of energy in different manner than is expressed within other physical realities and dimensions within consciousness.  It is also an expression of physicality.

You have created an identification of genders within this physical reality.  This is an expression of sexuality.  It is not the entirety; it is one expression of sexuality.

You may notice throughout your reality, you identify all of your reality in terms of sexuality.  You view all of the elements of your reality in terms of gender, and in association with those genders, you attribute qualities.  You attribute these qualities to what you assess to be living and non-living aspects of your reality.

This is an exploration in manipulating energy in a physical manner, incorporating sensation, incorporating thought, emotion, and all of the physical functionings of the aspects of your reality — yourselves, your creatures, your elements, your seas, your mountains, your weather — it matters not.  ALL of these elements — your planets, your movements — ALL are associated within your perceptions with some aspect and expression of sexuality, be it in gender or in some other type of sexuality.

This offers you a unique manner in which you may be moving your perception and moving yourselves within creativity.  It offers you also an expression of diversity.  You express one concept that offers you myriads of diverse expressions, and endless new possibilities for the incorporation of those expressions.  This is the purpose for the creation of sexuality within this physical dimension.

Now; I may also express to you that you have created extreme beliefs in association with sexuality in this physical dimension, many of which may be quite limiting and narrowing to you, for you create, quite strongly, judgments as to the aspects of sexuality that are acceptable and those that are not.

And I may express to you presently, you all continue to be participating within this wave of consciousness addressing to this particular belief system of sexuality.  This has not discontinued, much to your dismay! (Laughter)

You continue to engage this particular belief system within this present time framework to allow yourselves an awareness of all of the aspects of this belief system, and to offer yourselves an opportunity to be accepting of that and therefore to be offering yourselves new freedoms, not merely in the expression of physical sexual acts, but in the expression of ALL that is associated with sexuality.

And I may express to you, the reason that this particular wave in consciousness has been in continuation for extended time framework, within your linear time, is that there are very many aspects of this belief that you do not recognize.  There are many, many expressions that are associated with this particular belief system that you do not see.  Therefore, you continue to incorporate your time framework and you continue to present this wave to yourselves, that you may allow yourselves to become objectively aware of all of the aspects of this particular belief system.

And I may express to you all once again, much to your dismay, that this belief system of duplicity shall also be continuing for quite some time! (Laughter)

FEMALE:  On a more personal note, I’m wondering ... my whole life, I’ve had a tremendous attraction to everything iridescent, and I’m wondering what that’s about. (Pause)

ELIAS:  Ah! (Laughter)  Iridescence, or glowing.  I may express to you that this is an association that you hold in objective recognition with another physical dimension which creates its reality in this type of expression.

The beings, so to speak, present themselves in this manner.  They are quite unfamiliar to your identification of physical form, although they incorporate physical form, but it appears much more translucent and less solid than your incorporation of physical matter, and [they] also exhibit this quality.  And as you hold a recognition that you participate in other focuses of your essence in that particular physical dimension — in many manifestations, in actuality — you also associate that in translation into this reality in an expression that appears similar.  It is not the same, but there are similar qualities, that which you have translated into this reality, and therefore you experience the draw.

FEMALE:  I’m not sure what that means! (Laughter)  Is it associated with Pleiades, or perhaps the fairy kingdom?

ELIAS:  No.  This is another physical dimension which is unfamiliar to you in words and association, but quite familiar to you in essence and within your knowing within self.  Therefore, quite simply, you are an iridescent, glowing creature within another dimension in many, many, many focuses, and this is quite influencing of your knowing of yourself in this dimension in this focus. (Chuckling)

FEMALE:  Thank you.  That’s fascinating!

FEMALE:  Elias....

ELIAS:  Yes?

FEMALE:  Hi.  I’m really excited about this session!  I haven’t experienced this before.  If we have another focus, or say we’re having in this focus a real high or a real low in our life, we’re feeling that, would another focus be feeling some of that?

ELIAS:  Possibly; not absolutely.  It is not a rule.  Therefore, at times another focus may be experiencing a similar creation, or they may not.  You may be creating an experience unique and individual to you within one focus.

Each focus of attention creates their own experiences.  You are not subject to the creations of other focuses.  Even in your draw and your association with this luminescence, this is not an expression that the individual is subject to that draw, merely that there is an engagement of other focuses.

You draw to yourself, in relation to other focuses that you hold, those experiences and those expressions of energy that may be in relation to what YOU are choosing to be creating, that may be beneficial to you to be holding an awareness of, to draw your attention to some aspect of exploration that you wish to be engaging, but the direction is created by you, by each individual focus.

Once again, we return to our subject matter of victims, and NONE of you are victims.

In this, in any expression that you associate some action, some expression, some element is being thrust upon you — or is being, more softly, “given” to you — without your permission, you are becoming a victim, for are not expressing that you yourself are creating the choice, but that some other aspect of consciousness is creating a choice for you, and this is NOT correct.

(Firmly)  No other aspect of consciousness chooses for you, period.  You ALWAYS choose, in every moment, your reality, your movement, your expression.  NO expression is thrust upon you.

Therefore, in relation to your question — as to the relationship between different focuses, and shall one focus be experiencing the same or similar experience to another focus in the same time framework — this does occur, but not as an expression that is thrust from one to another.  Rather, it is an individual choice that is being created simultaneously.

If two aspects of one essence, two focuses of one essence, are creating the choice to be experiencing the same high, so to speak, or the same low within the same time framework, as you associated, this is being created purposefully by essence — which is you — to be experiencing different aspects of a similar experience, for each experience is not identical.  They are not the same; they are similar.

Each focus creates uniquely.  Each focus of attention holds the expression of free will and choice, and therefore, each focus of attention of each essence is creating their choice of an experience which may be beneficial to them, with the underlying knowing of all that is being created within every other focus. (Emphatically)

It is all a movement of harmony.  You are not randomly creating within consciousness.  You are not coincidentally creating.  You are not accidentally creating.  It is all purposeful and it is all precise.  It is all a movement of immaculate action, and in this, each choice holds with it an underlying knowledge of all that is being created in every other aspect of essence.  You may not afford yourself the objective recognition or awareness of all that you create as essence, but you do hold an underlying awareness.

I have expressed many times, there is no difference of myself and yourselves, other than I remember and you do not.

This is merely an expression of attention, and you have created a singularity of attention which blocks the incorporation of the remembrance.  It is not that it is not present.  It is not a situation that it does not exist.  It is merely that you have focused your attention very precisely and directedly, and in this, you do not view all of the remembrance of you.  But this also is an action which is incorporated within this shift.

You would not be participating within this exchange were you not participating within this shift in consciousness.  You would not be inquiring of these matters were you not widening your awareness and participating in this shift in consciousness.  You ARE participating.  You ARE widening your awareness.  You ARE incorporating your periphery.  You are becoming objectively aware of more of yourselves, of the remembrance of consciousness, and in this, you have sparked new curiosities within yourselves. (Pause)

You do not choose to be creating a high or a low in conjunction with another focus “because” another focus is creating that.  But you are ALL creating ALL of your focuses simultaneously.  Therefore, it is not merely an association of “at the same time,” for all that is occurring is at the same time.

FEMALE:  Thank you.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome.

MARION:  Elias, what’s my essence name and family and all that, please?  My name is Marion. (Pause)

ELIAS:  Essence name, Li-tah; L-I-hyphen-t-a-h. (lee’tah)  Essence family, Tumold; alignment in this focus, Milumet; orientation, common.

MARION:  Could you spell them?

ELIAS:  You may inquire of Michael, and he shall be offering you clarification subsequent to this session as to this information.

MARION:  Okay, thanks.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome.

CURTIS:  Elias, it’s Curtis.  Could you tell me if I’m a final focus, and maybe a little about some other focuses that are (inaudible)?

ELIAS:  And what is your impression as to....

CURTIS:  I am a final focus.

ELIAS:  And you are correct.

And I shall deviate momentarily and express to you all, the identification of a final focus or a beginning focus or what you may term to be a continuing focus is held quite strongly in you each.  There may be expressed little question within any of you as to these identifications, for you offer yourselves clear impressions in association with these identifications.

Individuals that are deemed to be beginning focuses know they are beginning focuses.  Individuals that are final focuses know that they are final focuses.  There is little question.  Individuals that do not identify and assess either of these expressions know that they are neither of those designations.  Therefore, to all of you, do not be discounting of yourselves and your impressions, for this is a clear and easy impression! (Chuckling)

As to your engagement of other focuses, I shall express to you, as I have expressed to other individuals, you hold the ability to be investigating of this, and I am greatly encouraging....

CURTIS:  (This is inaudible, but it must have been something like, “Easy for you to say!”)

ELIAS:  Ah, very well! (Pause)  Ommm....  (Everybody cracks up)  I am tuning to my cosmic awareness of other focuses! (Laughter)  Do not be interrupting of concentration. (Laughter)  This is quite challenging and difficult! (Laughter)

MALE:  You’re not focused enough!

ELIAS:  You are correct! (Laughter)  Ah!  The illumination of bright light has brought to me.... (laughter) HA HA HA!

MALE:  Am I a final focus? (Laughter)  I’m just kidding!

ELIAS:  (Chuckling, and then to Curtis)  I may express to you that you hold one focus that you may easily be identifying, within the physical location of what you identify as Scandinavia; in this, a time framework of mid 1700s; male individual, also participates with a family unit.  This individual may be easily identified by you if you are allowing yourself a relaxation, for this holds a very similar tone to yourself, and also incorporates many similar beliefs.  This individual also incorporates many similar experiences; not entirely the same, but similar.

If you are so choosing, you may also be investigating of another individual within northern location of Portugal.

CURTIS:  Portugal?

ELIAS:  Yes.  This individual is of the gender of female...

CURTIS:  A Spanish dancer?

ELIAS:  ...does not incorporate similar objective experiences as yourself, but does incorporate similar beliefs, and similar associations within those beliefs to other individuals.  Therefore, either of these individuals may offer you information as to yourself, and may be helpful to you in clarifying some of your expressions within your beliefs.  And I may express to you, yes, this individual does dance. (Laughter)

CURTIS:  Thank you!

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome. (Chuckling)

MALE:  Elias, at this point in time, could you give us a brief update on the nine children — and they would be about five or six now — and whether or not they’re aware of anything, or if anyone involved with them is aware....

ELIAS:  Oh, they are quite aware of many things, so to speak! (Laughter)

MALE:  Are they affecting yet?

ELIAS:  They are affecting in like manner to YOUR affecting. (Short but emphatic pause)

And I may express to you that these individuals, as I have stated previously, are NOT creating an intention or an intent to become the new manifestations of messiahs!

Their intent and their action, in relation to their particular essence families, each of them, is to be expressing an embodiment of movement, once again, in what YOU associate as the male to the female expression in the action of this shift, and as I have stated, each of these manifestations are male for this express purpose, so to speak, to be lending energy to the accomplishment of this shift in consciousness, not necessarily in flamboyant manner, but to be a representative of each essence family in the movement from the association of male energy in expression into the female expression of energy, which lends energy to you all in your movement.

Vic’s note:  Funny — a telephone is ringing loudly here.

ELIAS:  (Jovially)  Other than this expression, I may report to you that all are well, (laughter) and experiencing what you deem to be normal childhood experiences!  Ha ha ha ha ha! (Chuckling)

BEN:  Elias, are there any other individuals ... who else in this room, besides Vito and Michael and myself, have focuses acquainted with the Oscar focus?  Are there other people in this room today? (Pause)

ELIAS:  Yes, indirectly; not necessarily in direct association; one in brief interaction and encounter; for the most part, individuals that may be associated within that time framework and within locations that are associated with those individuals, but not necessarily directly interactive with the particular individuals that you are referring to.  Are you wishing for identification? (Laughter)

MALE:  Of course!

BEN:  Unless they know who they are already!

ELIAS:  I may express to you, this individual, physical naming of Eileen, participates in brief interaction as comrade in the prison setting — not guard! (Laughter)

MALE:  Elias, I have an impression in the same time frame with the prisoner I was, and we were both in prison in the Oscar Wilde focus.  I know my first name is Henry.  The last name, the impression I got was either Blodgett or Bloodsworth, and I was wondering if you could comment on if it’s either one, or should I keep looking?

ELIAS:  You are correct in the first.

MALE:  Blodgett?

ELIAS:  Yes.

MALE:  Thank you.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome.  I am acknowledging of your trusting of your impressions!

MALE:  Thank you, sir.

ELIAS:  You are welcome.

EILEEN:  Excuse me.  Could I just ask what you are talking about? (Everybody cracks up, including me!)  You seem to know me....

ELIAS:  My friend has incorporated a question as to the participation of any individual within this room in the focus of attention which has been expressed by myself in the manifestation of Mr. Wilde.

In this, some individuals have participated in that focus also, and are presently manifest physically in this time framework.

The inquiry has been posed as to the identification of any individual presently within this gathering that participates in that focus, and in direct association, you hold another focus of your essence which manifests in that time framework, and also has created the experience of incarceration within this particular English prison, of which this essence [of Elias] holds objective interaction and knowledge of you in that focus.

FEMALE:  Thank you.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome.

MALE:  The guard that Ben speaks of, is that the same guard that you talked to me about?

ELIAS:  Yes.

FEMALE:  Elias ... I’m really excited about this!  I forgot what my question was! (Laughter)  Oh, when I disappear ... I got it.  When I disappear for a second, and I’m aware that I come back, and I almost can hear a conversation, like if somebody is talking and I’m engaged in a conversation, sometimes I disappear and come back....

ELIAS:  As you have within this moment!

FEMALE:  Just now! (Everybody cracks up)  It’s like I’m aware that I almost had a conversation, and I can hear part of that conversation I had for that split-second (snapping fingers) like that.  Is that when I’ve disappeared into another focus, or I’ve become aware of it?

ELIAS:  In a manner of speaking, yes.  This is what we term to be an objective awareness, partially, of the action of blinking in and out.

You create this action continuously throughout all of your manifestations, but you also create an illusion within your perception that your attention continues uninterrupted within any particular focus.  In actuality, you are continuously blinking in and out of each focus, and in that, you are allowing yourself to turn your attention, in those moments of blinking out, to other focuses and other experiences of your essence.

You view your attention to be quite singular and to be quite consistent.  View your experience of the alteration of identity, in meditation, of different faces superimposed upon one individual.  This is a physical example, in objective terms, of what I am expressing.  This is an allowance for your recognition of all of the focuses that are occurring simultaneously, and that they all occupy the same space arrangement and they all are occurring simultaneously, and that your attention is merely focused singularly upon one expression, one manifestation.

Therefore, you identify one singular individual, and you identify all of the other focuses as separate individuals.  In actuality, they are not.  They are all you, and they are all occurring now, and you are participating in them all by blinking in and out continuously, and moving your attention from one to another to another to another to another continuously.

What you have allowed yourself to participate within in that objective action is a melding of several within an objective recognition, not separating by blinking, but allowing yourself to view several simultaneously within one attention.

FEMALE:  Wow.  Thanks.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome!

FEMALE:  Elias, when I listen to Puccini’s music, I get so affected by that music.  It either takes me sky-high or I feel very melancholy or very sad at times, but it has such a profound effect, more so than any other music I listen to.  Could you tell me what evokes that?  Is there some tie-in with Puccini?

ELIAS:  It is the tone.

FEMALE:  The tone?

ELIAS:  It is not the individual.  It is the tone.

I may express to you, each of you may produce a musical note.  You may all produce what you view to be the same musical note.  You may all express that audibly, and every individual within this present forum shall express that same musical note differently, for the tone shall be different, for it is an expression of you — which is your essence — and that expression creates a unique quality of tone.  It matters not that the musical note objectively appears the same — it is not the same.

This individual creates a tone that you recognize, and therefore, this invokes a response within you in emotional expression.  You do not recognize it within thought, and you do not recognize it within philosophy.  You recognize this tone in emotion.

FEMALE:  And it’s me.

ELIAS:  It is not you.  It is a tone that vibrates with emotional qualities that you express, and therefore you recognize this tone.

As I have expressed to other individuals previously, at times you may be incorporating the listening to, so to speak, of musical notes that may expressed by another individual, and you may be simultaneously expressing those notes also, and at times, you may incorporate an actual physical recognition of vibration which is occurring within your physical body.

The reason that this is occurring is that you are creating a recognition of similarity of tone, and this creates a vibrational response within you.  This may be created physically.  It may be invoking of thought.  It may be invoking of emotion.  There are many different expressions that may occur in these situations, but quite simply, it is a recognition of.... (Here, the phone starts ringing again, obliterating the last word, but it’s probably “tone.”)

FEMALE:  Thank you.

ELIAS:  I shall be accepting of one more question, and we shall be disengaging for this evening.

ROBERT:  I have a question, Elias.

ELIAS:  Very well.

ROBERT:  I’m Ben-adi, and my question is kind of pertaining to what you just talked about.  What I’d like to know is, I’ve been noticing in the last few years my awareness towards other people’s vibrations, and being able to read them on an emotional level, and my question is ... well, what’s happening for me is, I’m finding I’m wanting to not get so involved in it, because it brings up a lot of stuff for other people.  What’s the message in that for me?  What do I really need to do with that information?

Vic’s note:  I just have to interject again and say that the phone kept ringing till almost the end of this question, and I’m sitting here thinking, “Why doesn’t somebody pick up the dang phone and get the message?”  The phone finally stops ringing right before Robert says, “What’s the message in that for me?”  Ha ha!

ELIAS:  This is your choice, my friend.  You are engaging your empathic sense.  All of you hold this empathic sense.  Some individuals allow themselves to be exercising this sense more frequently and more intensely than other individuals.  You have polished yours quite finely, and in this, you hold an ease in engaging this sense, which allows you to be merging with other individuals and incorporating an understanding, to an extent, of their experience, and to be incorporating the sensation of their experience also.

Now; as to the significance of this, you offer yourself information.  It is not your responsibility or your “job” to be expressing this information outwardly and offering that information to other individuals.  You may, if you are so choosing, but as you are aware, at times individuals are not compliant with your expression, and you are correct — it may be creating conflict, for they are not accepting of this action.

Individuals hold reluctance in being told what they are creating or what they are experiencing.  You each wish to be discovering your creations within yourselves.  You do not wish to be told ... except by myself, you wish to be told! (Everybody cracks up)  But you do not wish to be told by each other! (Much laughter)

In this, you do offer yourself valuable information, and you create this action and allow yourself this ability quite purposefully, that you SHALL offer yourself information. (The phone is ringing again!)

It offers you the opportunity to view how other individuals create their reality.  It offers you the opportunity to view differences in perceptions.  It offers you the opportunity to view within yourself how you create some expressions differently, but it also offers you the opportunity to widen your periphery and incorporate within self the recognition of other individuals’ experiences, that you may allow yourself to associate that within you.

ROBERT:  It happens too quickly most of the time, though.

ELIAS:  It matters not, for you hold the ability of recall and reflection, and in that action of recall and reflection, you allow yourself to view aspects of yourself that you wish to become more familiar with, in objective terms.

This is not necessarily an action that you incorporate to be altering an expression of yours or changing an expression of yours, but rather to merely become aware and familiar with your own expressions.  Many times individuals may offer themselves valuable information in viewing other individuals, for they are....

ROBERT:  Is there a switch?  Is there a switch so I can turn it off?

ELIAS:  If you are so choosing, yes, you may.  You hold the choice to be disengaging this action and not paying attention.

ROBERT:  It doesn’t seem to work, though, for me.

ELIAS:  For you are continuing to hold your attention in participating with it.

ROBERT:  Evidently, yes.

ELIAS:  And it continues to offer you a payoff.  Therefore, you do not switch it off.  Your payoff is that it turns your attention to you.  You may be experiencing frustration at times, but you are turning your attention to you in that frustration.

ROBERT:  True.  Thank you.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome, my friend. (Chuckling)

Very well!  I express to each and all of you great affection this evening, and great camaraderie.  You are glorious beings, every one, and it is of great excitement that we engage together!  I shall continue to be interactive with each of you, offering energy to you ... with the exception of Albert! (Everybody cracks up)  For I hold the awareness that it is quite irritating for me to be offering energy to you!  Therefore, I shall withdraw! (Much laughter)

Otherwise, I shall continue to be expressing energy with you all in encouragement, and lovingly ... and to you also, Christian. (Warmly)

FRANK:  Thanks, big guy!

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome.  I am always present! (Laughter)

FRANK:  Yeah, I’ve noticed!

ELIAS:  To you all this evening, in great lovingness, au revoir.

GROUP:  Au revoir!

Elias departs at 8:59 p.m.

FOOTNOTES:

(1)  I looked up Puccini in my encyclopedia to check the spelling, and found it interesting that this was said about his music: “Often overlooked is the variety of tone color and harmony in his orchestral writing, none of which, however, overshadows the voices.”

One final note ... since I’ve been rather chatty in this transcript, ha ha!  In my memory, this hasn’t happened before, where the camera defocuses and I can’t read Elias’ lips.  This was frustrating to me at times, and frustration is an emotion, and then the dang telephone kept ringing, and I kept thinking about this new concept of picking up the phone and getting the message behind the emotion.  Now, I’m not going to pretend that I actually got all of the message, because I know I didn’t.  But I think part of it is that all expressions and creations are beneficial, as not being able to see Elias altered my perception while transcribing, my angle of viewing, so to speak, and this created an entirely different transcribing experience for me.  And now I’m really shutting up, ha ha!

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