Monday, September 18, 2000-1
© 2001 (Private/Phone)
Participants:  Mary (Michael) and Frank (Ulra).
Elias arrives at 11:38 a.m. (Arrival time is 20 seconds)

ELIAS:  Good morning!

FRANK:  Good morning!  Nice to talk to you again!

ELIAS:  Ha ha!  And what shall we be discussing this day?

FRANK:  Well, I thought maybe we would pick up with where we left off last time, which is the issue of previous focuses of mine.

ELIAS:  Very well.

FRANK:  Where to start?  I have several questions I want to ask you.  Well, let’s start with this.  One focus that I tried to investigate involved my relationship with my oldest daughter, Moorah, and what I got was this picture, or I saw a picture of myself and a little girl like maybe five or six years old, wearing a white dress and walking through a field with a person who was my mother who was also wearing a white dress and a white hat and I think gloves, almost like it was a Sunday morning or something like that.  Can you tell me what I got there?  Was that our previous focus, or was that something else that I was looking into?

ELIAS:  This is one.  And what is your impression concerning the information that you have offered to yourself?

FRANK:  I don’t know what I thought about that enough, or at all, really, other than ... what it seemed like to me was that this was taking place probably in the 1800s or maybe in the early part of the last century, and that I was the child and she was the mother, and we were both female, and it was a very sort of loving relationship.

ELIAS:  You are correct; in a physical location of what you identify as Britain.

FRANK:  Oh, okay.  And what time period was it?

ELIAS:  Physical time framework, early 19th century.

FRANK:  Okay.  Can you tell me any more about that focus? (Pause)

ELIAS:  I may express to you, there is an incorporation of some religious affiliation, and there is an establishment of closeness, in your terms, in relationship between these two individuals, creating an alliance, so to speak, with each other, and also in that alliance creating a type of protective shield, in a manner of speaking, psychologically, in relation to the individual that occupies the role of the father.

FRANK:  In other words, to be protected from that person?

ELIAS:  Yes.

FRANK:  Now, is that someone that I currently know? (Pause)

ELIAS:  Yes.

FRANK:  Can you identify who it is? (Pause)

ELIAS:  This individual has created the role of the mother to your partner in this focus.

FRANK:  Okay.  Very interesting.  Could this be the cause of current conflict between me and that individual?

ELIAS:  There is an element of what you term to be bleed-through, yes.

Let me express to you, the individual within that focus is not threatening, so to speak, of other individuals within the family unit, but is aligned quite strongly with religious belief systems and creates an atmosphere of rigidity within the home environment, so to speak.

FRANK:  Oh, okay.  Now, could this be an explanation for my current attitude towards organized religion?

ELIAS:  Let me express to you, partially, but also, no.  For understand that within each individual focus, you are creating your own individual choices, and you are allowing yourselves to be interactive with your reality that you create in the manner of your own individual design.

Now; there is an influence of other focuses, for they also are you, and in this, what we term to be bleed-through is in actuality what you may view as an underlying recognition of experiences that you are participating in simultaneously to what you are creating in this particular attention.  Therefore, there is some influence, but you are not subject to that influence.  You choose to be allowing a responsiveness or not.

In this, in returning to our analogy of viewing other focuses as different aspects of your physical body, you hold an awareness of different expressions of your body consciousness and the different functionings of them, although you may not be paying attention objectively to those functionings in any particular moment.

Now; as one aspect of your physical body consciousness is experiencing a certain affectingness that you subjectively have directed it to be creating, your attention may shift momentarily to that particular affected area.  But you also hold the choice to be altering your experience or turning your perception in relation to the affected aspect of this body consciousness.

Now; in relation to other focuses and the analogy of the physical body consciousness, as you affect any particular aspect of your physical body, you have created that action purposefully to draw your attention to a specific area of desire which you choose to explore.

In similar manner, you allow certain aspects of bleed-through of other focuses to be occurring, and that you shall allow yourself to be objectively interactive with the energy of it, that you may draw your attention to specific actions that you are creating or specific interactions that you are participating within.

Therefore, it is purposeful, but it is not a situation in which you are experiencing some action that may be deemed as out of your control.  Are you understanding?

FRANK:  Yeah, I think I understand completely.  I remember that Seth talked about how when we come into this life, we have free will over everything, but we’re sort of shot like a gun out of a canon in a certain direction, and we’re sort of likely to go in that direction.  Is this what you’re talking about?  I’m citing it wrong, but....

ELIAS:  I am understanding of this interpretation, although there is a implication in this type of a translation which suggests that you are not necessarily choosing the direction that you are proceeding within, or that some other element of consciousness may be directing for you in part, which in actuality is incorrect, for you are directing of all of the creations.

FRANK:  Right.  But at some level I’ve chosen to, for example, allow this bleed-through.

ELIAS:  Yes.

FRANK:  Which influences me in a certain direction.

ELIAS:  Yes.

FRANK:  And that was purposeful, and I assume chosen by me prior to entering this focus?

ELIAS:  Not necessarily!

FRANK:  It’s chosen by me now, on a moment-by-moment basis?

ELIAS:  Yes.

FRANK:  Okay, but obviously not on an objective level.

ELIAS:  Partially upon an objective layer, yes!  For this is the aspect of confusion that you incorporate within your focus, is the understanding that the objective and the subjective move in harmony, and that you do hold an awareness of the objective choices and participation.  You are merely not paying attention within the now as to what you are choosing within each moment.

This be the reason that I continuously am expressing to individuals, and to you, that you be allowing yourselves objectively to hold your attention within the now.

You create an action of automatic responses, and in these automatic responses, you are allowing yourselves to not objectively pay attention to what you are creating and the choices that you are incorporating, and thusly, you express to yourselves that your subjective awareness alone is directing of many of your actions, without your awareness and without your permission.

FRANK:  Um-hmm.  Okay, I understand.  I mean, I sort of understand!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

This be the reason that there is importance in continuing to hold your attention within the now, and noticing your automatic responses in what you are creating within your focus.  This familiarizes you with you, and allows you to move out of the role, so to speak, of victim, and allows you to be directing of yourself in an empowered manner in each moment.

FRANK:  Okay.  Well, that’s what I’m working on, and I think I’m doing better at it too! (Elias chuckles)  But let’s come back to this focus.  Was someone there named Mary, either me or my mother? (Pause)

ELIAS:  Yes.  Mary is the physical name of the mother.

FRANK:  Oh, okay.  So I got that pretty good!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha!

FRANK:  Okay, let’s see.  Next, we had earlier spoken about a focus that I had in Greenland with my son.  Can you tell us what our names were?

ELIAS:  (Humorously)  Ah, you hold the ability to be accessing this information, and you wish myself to be skipping steps in the game and creating the information for you, that you may be skipping ahead, so to speak.  But in this, you deprive yourself of the experience and of the acknowledgment! (Laughing, and Frank cracks up)  Quite crafty, I may say!  Ha ha ha ha ha!

FRANK:  (Laughing)  Okay, okay!  Well, I thought you would say that, but I thought I’d try anyway.  You’re right — I should trust myself more.  I got the impression of Zandamar.  Is that accurate?

ELIAS:  In this particular focus? (Grinning)

FRANK:  Um-hmm.

ELIAS:  You are correct.  NOW!  Why shall you inquire of myself, as you have already offered to yourself the information!  Ha ha ha ha!

FRANK:  I should trust myself, right?

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha!  But this is your opportunity to practice in trusting of yourself! (Chuckling)

FRANK:  That is true.  Well, I’ll keep working on that.  Now, the other thing I want to talk to you about is, the last time we spoke, we spoke of the Gates of Horn.

ELIAS:  Yes.

FRANK:  I will say that I didn’t expend a lot of objective energy in this area, but some, like prior to going to sleep, I would either say Gates of Horn or give myself the suggestion of exploring focuses in this manner, and at least on an objective level, I didn’t notice that anything occurred, or that I had any success with that.  So, can you speak to that?  Maybe I did come up with something, and I just don’t know it?

ELIAS:  Let me express to you, in this, once again, you view your actions very singularly, and in what we may say to be quite black and white terms, so to speak.  For you engage an action, and subsequent to that, you hold an expectation quite narrowly of what shall be occurring and the interaction that you may be participating within, and as you create movement and it is not matching of your expectation, you automatically, once again, discount the action that you have engaged.

Now; objective memory is not always the physical indication or evidence of what you may term to be your successfulness.

In this, you presently are allowing yourself an exploration of these concepts in more of an expression of depth, so to speak, than merely what you view surfacely.  And in this, as it is your desire and your creations follow your desire, you ARE in actuality creating the portal, so to speak, in the invocation of the Gates of Horn as you have engaged, but you are allowing yourself to be translating the subjective activity into objective action rather than thought.

Your objective memory of these types of action[s] is translated many times into thought, but this is not the only avenue available to you to be translating the action that is occurring within the subjective activity that you engage.

In this, once again I may be directing your attention to be noticing what you are creating within your mundane activities daily that are beginning to appear to you as flowing with more of an ease.

FRANK:  Hmm, okay!  Well, many things are flowing more easily for me.

ELIAS:  This is your evidence.

Many times you attribute the flow in ease within your objective creations and interactions to the concentration of your thoughts, and I may express to you that in a manner of speaking, at times this may be deceptive, for your thoughts are not always that which is creating more of an ease within your movement.  In actuality, there are other expressions of energy which, in a manner of speaking, precede the thoughts in the creation of more of an ease in your flow of movement.  Therefore, allow yourself to be paying attention to your actual directions and how you are directing of yourself.

In this, as you create a suggestion, so to speak, to yourself to be accessing certain triggers or portals within consciousness, you are creating this suggestion and action specifically to be accessing certain information.  You are not randomly creating this type of an action.  Therefore, within your objective waking state, it may be evidenced in other manners, and not necessarily merely within memory.

FRANK:  Okay.  Well, that’s very interesting, and that actually sort of relates to something else I was going to ask you about, which is, my current situation in terms of my business, you know, my employment situation, has been flowing much more easily, and I was going to ask you, how did I go from where I was to where I am?  And I guess this at least partially explains it.

ELIAS:  You are correct! (Chuckling)

Let me express to you, my friend, you shall always respond, or in your terms, answer you.  It is merely a question of whether you are paying attention to the response that you are offering to yourself.  But you, within self, as you create an objective communication with the subjective awareness, shall always provide yourself with a response.  There is a continuous interaction and communication that is occurring between these two aspects of awareness.

FRANK:  Okay, but the problem is, I don’t recognize the response?

ELIAS:  It is not necessarily that you are not recognizing it, for in some aspects, you ARE recognizing of it.  But you are not paying attention and you are not noticing what you are creating, for you are paying attention to your thoughts as the all-powerful expression of communication within you.

In this, you look to your thoughts as the method or the means of your provision of communication to yourself, but your thoughts merely incorporate one aspect of interaction that you create within yourself.  And in actuality, your thoughts, although this is an expression of energy which holds strength, are not in actuality the majority of energy expression which communicates to your objective awareness.

But once again, this is one of the aspects of your reality that you have created which dominates your attention.  This is another exhibition of singularity, which is extremely familiar to you all within this physical dimension.  This is what you are familiar with in your creating — the creation of singularity.

You incorporate many physical outer senses.  You singularly turn your attention to one or another to be dominant over all of your other physical senses.  You hold many inner senses, and you turn your attention to one and engage one in dominance to the others....

FRANK:  Can you give me an example of a different inner sense? (Pause)

ELIAS:  A different inner sense from the identification of which as a beginning point?

FRANK:  Well ... oh boy!  Now you’ve got me confused!  Well, you’re saying that ... okay, in this issue of singularity, that we tend to focus on the outer senses over the inner senses.

ELIAS:  No, no, no, no, no!  I am not expressing that you focus upon the outer senses more than the inner senses.  I am merely expressing to you that in any expression, you focus upon one of the variety, and create a dominance in that expression.

If you are viewing your outer senses, I shall express to you, regardless of how you view yourself to be identifying that you are more responsive to your physical sense of hearing than you are to any other sense, in actuality, by overwhelming majority, most individuals within this physical dimension are focusing their attention upon the stimulus of their physical outer sense of vision in dominance to all of the other outer senses.

Now; I may also express to you, as you move your attention to the inner senses, most individuals within your physical dimension shall focus their attention upon the inner sense of empathic in dominance to the other inner senses.

FRANK:  Okay, and I do the same thing?

ELIAS:  Yes.  In this, you also turn your attention to thoughts as your means of communication with self, and the thoughts dominate in your incorporation of communication avenues.

FRANK:  What you’re saying is, that’s what I’m expecting.  That’s how I’m expecting to get a response from my other portions, my subjective side of my being, through thought.

ELIAS:  You are holding an expectation that you shall incorporate communication through thought, yes; and in this, not paying attention to the other avenues of communication and how they are expressed.

FRANK:  Okay.  Well, let’s try to get to an example here.  Let’s say that my back is sore, which it has been lately, and so I give myself a suggestion or communicate to the subjective part of myself that I want to alleviate this physical symptom or know the reason for it or both of those things.  What ways other than through thought might I get an answer?  Can you explain that to me?

ELIAS:  Now ... yes.  In this, you have offered an example that is viable in this discussion, for as you incorporate this particular type of action, what are you expressing?  You are automatically turning your attention to the communication of thought.

In this action that you have offered in example, you are first of all automatically moving into an expression of a lack of acceptance.  You are expressing to yourself — through thought — an identification of duplicity, in labeling the affectingness that you are experiencing physically as bad or uncomfortable, and wishing to be, in your terms, uncreating of that action, affecting of it to be eliminating it, or altering the expression of it.  It matters not how you term this.  Your want is to be eliminating of what you have created, for you have automatically created an association in negativity, and you have created these communications to yourself through thought.

And I may express to you that many, many, many, many times, individuals are also automatically limiting their expression of affectingness of this situation, for first of all, you are allowing yourself an expression of singularity in merely accessing one avenue of communication which is quite limited, and that be the avenue of thought, and you are reinforcing the expression of duplicity through a lack of acceptance of what you are creating.

Now; in the expression of acceptance, the communication through thought many times becomes unnecessary.  You may not even engage the action of thought as communication to yourself, if you are allowing yourself an acceptance of what you are creating.

FRANK:  Well, I think I understand what you’re saying.  However, I would just respond that when my back hurts, it’s hard to say, “I accept this.”  Maybe I don’t understand acceptance, but....

ELIAS:  For you automatically deem this to be not good.

FRANK:  (Laughing)  That’s correct!

ELIAS:  And I may express to you, as you continue to believe and express the reinforcement of energy in duplicity that this is a negative, you also continue to experience that action, for you continue to create it.  You create....

FRANK:  Well, but ... excuse me.  But it seems that for me to objectively express anything else ... I mean, that’s the way I feel.  I feel like it’s negative.  So what are you saying?  That I just say to myself, this is fine, this is okay, and it’s just great the way it is, when I can’t bend over to ... when it’s hard to bend over to pick something up off the floor?

ELIAS:  I shall express to you quite literally that in the genuine expression of acceptance and the lack of association with limitation and what you view as this negativity, it shall not be affecting of you.

What you are creating in these actions is a physical obstacle.  You are creating a physical limitation, and you are reinforcing this physical limitation through thought — and at times with the incorporation of emotion also — by your assessment that you are a victim, that you hold no control, that you are being dictated to by some other element, and therefore you hold no power, and you express this in your creation as a mirror of the influence of your belief.

This be the reason that I speak to you all so very much in association with your beliefs and your perception, for your beliefs influence your perception, and your perception creates your reality.

Therefore, you shall create what you concentrate upon, and I am not expressing concentration through thought.  I am expressing what you believe.  If you believe that you are creating painfulness within you and that this is bad, so it shall be.

It IS in actuality, quite genuinely, quite simple.  But you complicate this concept, for you direct your attention very singularly, and you view that the method for your communication to yourself is to be concentrating your attention through your thoughts, and in this singularity, you are not paying attention to all of the other functions that you are creating, all of the other avenues of communication that you are creating.

FRANK:  Are you talking about communication from the objective self to the subjective self, or the other way around?

ELIAS:  Both!

FRANK:  Both, okay.  Okay, just again as an example, are you saying that one of the ways my subjective self communicates with me, like if I want ... maybe I create the situations, but then I don’t recognize them as containing a message for me?

ELIAS:  (Intently)  No.  Your objective and your subjective are moving in harmony.

Now; let me offer you a very physical example.  Let us hypothetically express that you choose to be walking across your room, and in this action, you create what you term to be an objective to move across your room and to be moving through a doorway.

In this action, your attention moves temporarily to some activity which may be occurring within the room.  You continue to be physically walking towards the doorway, but your attention focuses upon the activity occurring within the room.  As you continue forward within your physical movement, you walk into collision with the doorway.

Now; has your subjective awareness directed your feet to be moving without your permission?

FRANK:  You’re asking?  Yes.

ELIAS:  Ah!  Therefore, you have held no awareness that you have chosen to be walking across the room.

FRANK:  Well, when I started, I did!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

FRANK:  (Laughing)  But halfway across, I started thinking about whatever, something else.

ELIAS:  Ah, and therefore, some other elusive aspect of consciousness is directing you, and now you have become a victim.

FRANK:  Okay, I see what you’re saying.

ELIAS:  (Chuckling)  For YOU are not choosing to continue to move your feet and walk across your room, and YOU are not participating — in the objective expression of you — in this action.  Some OTHER aspect of you that is unknown to you is creating action FOR you, and therefore, you are subject to accident and mishap, and in this, you become victim.

I am expressing to you that your objective awareness is creating the choice to be moving across the room.  There is no exchange, that the objective initially was in completeness of control, but has relayed the control to the subjective to be continuing in the action.  Your objective awareness IS aware that you are continuing to be walking across the room.

Your attention is turned and is focused upon another action, which creates a situation of automatic response within your physical movement of your body consciousness, but no expression of accident is occurring.  You may move yourself into collision with the doorway to be snapping your attention back into the direction which you were creating an intention of previously.

In this, there is no “game” that is being played, with you as the pawn or the object of.  You view your objective and your subjective awarenesses to be two other aspects of you which vie for position of who shall be controlling the actions of you the individual as the physical manifestation — (chuckling) your character[s] of the angel and the demon upon your shoulders which are expressing directions to you in opposition of each other — no!

I am expressing to you, they are both moving in harmony with each other simultaneously.  What you are creating objectively, you are also creating subjectively, and vice versa.  You are merely creating those actions within different types of imagery.

FRANK:  Okay.  Well then, let me ask you about a related issue.  I have a habit of biting my nails, which I’ve done pretty much all my life.  Is there some ... what is the trigger for this?  You know, what’s the cause of that?  I mean, objectively, I wish I didn’t do it, although it’s not that big a deal to me.  But what causes, you know, that sort of a common ... an automatic response, I guess, is what it is.

ELIAS:  First of all, let me inquire to you, why are you wishing that you do not create this action?

FRANK:  ‘Cause it doesn’t look good.

ELIAS:  Ah!  Therefore....

FRANK:  I also just wonder why I do it.  I mean, it seems to me that there’s something behind this subjectively.

ELIAS:  I may express to you, many individuals create certain repetitive actions — as they choose to be incorporating a physical manifestation — as a focal point for their attention, in allowing themselves to be directing their attention within a particular manner, and in this, the physical action is what you may term to be an expression of a trigger to move your physical objective attention in a certain manner.

Now; this is not to say that this type of action is helpful to you, to focus or streamline your attention within a particular moment.  For in actuality, within yourself and in similar expression to many other individuals, as you incorporate this actual physical action, what you are creating a trigger for is to be turning your attention, defocusing it in part to what you are engaging, and focusing it in other areas.

This is not necessarily expressed in thought, once again, for as you engage this trigger physically, you may at times experience your thoughts becoming defocused, and this is the point.  It is a trigger within certain moments that you have incorporated as a focal point to turn your attention.  In certain situations, you choose not to be focusing your attention, but APPEARING to be focusing your attention outwardly (chuckling) ...

FRANK:  You know, we’ve talked about this before!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha!  ... and allowing yourself to drift within your objective awareness of the participation.

FRANK:  Okay, alright.  I understand that. (Elias chuckles)  You know, Elias, I’ve found in the past that many times when I just talk to you about something, it just goes away on its own.

ELIAS:  Ha ha!  And I may express to you, my friend, that this in actuality may be viewed as quite common.  Many times you may merely allow yourselves an identification of any particular action that you are creating, and the mere objective identification or recognition in your attention, in certain expressions that you create, allows you to discontinue participating in that particular action.

This also relates quite well to what we are discussing this day, for it is not necessarily merely your thoughts that communicate to you and hold your attention in certain expressions.  You may be creating many, many, many thoughts in wonderment as to why or how you may be creating of any particular action within your focus, and in this, as your attention is held singularly upon your thought, you are not paying attention to the other aspects of communication that are continuing the action.

Once you allow yourself to be assimilating information, and allow yourself to identify more of what you are incorporating in action within you, not merely within your thought processes, you automatically have gained your attention, and therefore, it is unnecessary to be continuing in the action that previously was puzzling to you.

FRANK:  It’s a good automatic response!

ELIAS:  Ah!  And we shall identify the good responses in automatic action and the bad responses in automatic action!  Ha ha ha ha ha!

FRANK:  I knew you’d say that!  Our time is short; I’d just like to ask you about one thing quickly.  As you have already noted, things are flowing more easily for me in terms of my business situation.

ELIAS:  Correct.

FRANK:  I am currently faced with I guess a decision, I would say, regarding taking in a new partner into a business that I’ve formed, and I was wondering if you can give me any insight into the current situation.  Surfacely it appears to be very good, or positive would be another way to put it.  I don’t have a strong positive emotional feeling about it; I mean, emotionally I’m neutral and maybe slightly negative.  I’m just curious to know if you can give me any assistance or insight into the situation.

ELIAS:  First of all, I shall inquire of you, stop momentarily and allow yourself to identify, what is your impression in this situation?  This is an opportunity — an opportunity to be listening to self and trusting of self.

FRANK:  My impression is, I may be selling myself short, so to speak.

ELIAS:  I am quite understanding of what you are expressing.

In this, my suggestion to you is to be trusting of your intuition and of your voice within you, regardless of the appearances surfacely and regardless of the fear that you may create in association with how other individuals shall view you and your choices.

Trust what you are expressing to you, for you are expressing communication to yourself already, and it is purposeful.

FRANK:  So I’m interpreting my communication correctly or accurately in this instance.

ELIAS:  Yes.

FRANK:  Okay.  Anything else?

ELIAS:  (Chuckling)  Merely a continued encouragement to you, that you be continuing to be listening to your small voice within you and trusting of that. (Chuckling)

FRANK:  Okay.  Well, thank you!

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome!

FRANK:  As always, it’s been a pleasure, and enlightening.  You always take me in directions I didn’t expect to go!

ELIAS:  (Laughing)  And you have offered yourself challenges in information this day!

FRANK:  Yes.  Thank you, and I look forward to speaking with you again soon.

ELIAS:  And I also, my friend.  I express to you acknowledgment and encouragement this day, and anticipate our next meeting.  To you I express in great affection, adieu.

FRANK:  Goodbye.

Elias departs at 12:44 p.m.

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