Friday, August 25, 2000-1
© 2001 (Private/Phone)
Participants:  Mary (Michael) and Pseudo (Nym).
Elias arrives at 8:49 a.m. (Arrival time is 17 seconds)

ELIAS:  Good morning!

PSEUDO:  Good morning, Elias!  How are you?

ELIAS:  As always, and yourself?

PSEUDO:  I am fine, thank you. (Elias chuckles) (Pause)

ELIAS:  You may proceed!

PSEUDO:  Okay.

ELIAS:  Ha ha!

PSEUDO:  I don’t know what I’m gonna say this morning! (Laughing)  I do have a couple questions, but a lot of it is probably just general knowledge, and maybe you’ll even share some information with me that I might not know.  So, I don’t know where this conversation is going to go, and I hope that’s okay with you.

ELIAS:  Very well!

PSEUDO:  Okay.  You told me that my essence name was Zaabe, which translated into a language on the continent of Africa.  You told me that in the first session, and as much as I’ve tried ... not deeply, but I’ve tried briefly to go on the internet and do a search to come up with anything that contained that name, and I was unsuccessful.  So, I’m wondering if you could clarify for me what language that it actually translates into. (Pause)

ELIAS:  I may express to you that this is translatable within a physical language of a small tribe within a central location of this continent, which if you are directing your investigation in that area, you may be accessing this small tribe or group of individuals.

PSEUDO:  What is their name, the tribe? (Pause)

ELIAS:  This naming of this small tribe, Zaahili.

PSEUDO:  Could you spell that for me? (Pause)

ELIAS:  Z-A-A-H-I-L-I.

PSEUDO:  Not Swahili, but Zaahili.

ELIAS:  Correct.

PSEUDO:  Okay, alright.  You told me that when I was a Dutch merchant in the 18th century, as far as my measurement of time goes, I was in a city in South Africa.  What city was that? (Pause)

ELIAS:  This would be an identification of a well-known city within your identification — Johannesburg.

PSEUDO:  Oh, Johannesburg.  I was wondering about that.  I kinda felt that it was, but I guess I needed some verification. (Elias chuckles)

When you ... it was funny because a friend and I were speaking one day, and we were speaking of tone, and I wasn’t certain at the time ... it was only, I think, my first, or it might have been my second session, and this is now the third.  We were discussing tone, and I said, “Are we speaking of color, or are we speaking of vibration?”  She said, “Gosh, I don’t know.”  So, could you clarify that for us?

I think vibration ... but I was thinking tone, but I don’t know why.  She should have been the one thinking tone, because she’s the artist that works with all the different colors and everything.  But I was thinking, when you were saying tone, that we were talking of a shade, not necessarily like a specific color of someone’s scan or something like that, but just a tone, a color in the spectrum of colors.

ELIAS:  I may express to you that this terminology of tone may be partially translatable into sound or color, but you are correct — it is a vibrational quality.

PSEUDO:  Okay, alright.  Just out of curiosity also, would you say that my tone is ... how would you identify my tone?  If you had to identify my tone, as far as at the bottom being very mellow and at the top being like schizophrenic, how would I fit in the middle?

ELIAS:  HA HA!

PSEUDO:  Or would I fit in, period?

ELIAS:  (Chuckling)  I may express to you, in terms of tone, this type of gauge would not quite be applicable, for you are speaking in terms of personality qualities, which is different from a vibrational quality of essence.

PSEUDO:  Okay.

ELIAS:  What is your impression as to your gauge?  Ha ha ha!

PSEUDO:  Actually, I think I’m probably somewhere like right along the middle.  Sometimes I go up, you know, and it’s hard to ... most of the time, I think I’m pretty much right in the middle, but in the last couple years, I think I kinda went off the edge here and there a bit, but I feel like I’m coming back down and I’m grounded again, and I’m more focused and I can see where I’m going, and the waters aren’t so cloudy, so to speak, and I’m not so obsessed with things as I was.

ELIAS:  And this is your validation to yourself of your movement in your widening of awareness.

PSEUDO:  My widening of the where?  Is that what you said?

ELIAS:  Awareness.

PSEUDO:  Oh, awareness, yes.  Yes, and I think a person comes to a realization in their lifetime that, you know, some things that they do, they just can’t ... you know, I can’t explain why I did it, but it just happens, and I just try to go with the flow, but sometimes I realize that the flow becomes like this raging stream, and you start to get sucked under, and all of a sudden you come up gasping for air, and you get your feet on solid ground again, and think more clearly and stabilize yourself again. (Elias chuckles)  You know where this is leading, so I’m just gonna ... I don’t want to beat a dead horse, so I have a couple more questions.

There’s been some monumental things recently; not recently, but in the last few months, since I’ve spoken with you, my partner reached one-half of a century.  That’s a scary thing, as far as measurement of time, and I also reached ... I turned 48 last year, and my godson ended up in detox.  We had a conversation about his addiction in our last session, and basically I have realized that it’s his focus, and I have hopefully ... I’m going to withdraw from my relationship with him, for the time being.  I realized that I was doing nothing except enabling, and my whole lesson out of this was, I learned more about who I am, and that it’s not my job to try to fix him.

And of course, he comes to me when he hits bottom, so that makes it especially hard.  I don’t want to say no, and he manipulates me and knows exactly how to work me to get what he needs out of a situation, and I have been falling prey to that.  So, I’ve decided that I’m not going to do that anymore.  It’s my choice not to do that, and I just pray that he doesn’t kill himself in the meantime.  The sad part of it all is that ... I mean, you told me, “Yes, he is going to get it,” but I hope he DOES get it, because he really needs some serious help.

ELIAS:  Hmm! (Chuckling)

PSEUDO:  I mean, I totally realize that I never ... I guess it was the denial portion of realizing and admitting, yes, he is definitely a substance addict, in every true sense of the word, but the one part of me didn’t want to believe it, and was always thinking that I could help, I could make it go away, but I can’t make it go away.  Only he can make it go away, and I just hope that he chooses that path soon, because it’s taking a toll on his body already.

ELIAS:  Let us discuss this situation once again, as this is occupying your attention.

PSEUDO:  Yes, but I’m trying to let it all go, so this might help.

ELIAS:  Now; in this, express to myself, what is the motivation in your choice to be removing yourself in this situation?

PSEUDO:  What is my motivation?

ELIAS:  Yes.

PSEUDO:  Because it constantly occupies almost every free moment of my mind.  If I’m not focused on working or doing something specific, like having a conversation, it’s always there in the background, and I’m just really ... it’s making me weary, it’s dragging me down, and I just don’t want to be in that space anymore.

ELIAS:  Therefore, you identify that your removal of yourself from this situation and interaction with this individual shall present you with less conflict.

PSEUDO:  Yes, that’s correct — less emotional stress.  I just don’t need it.  I had a health problem a couple years ago, and I don’t want my thoughts to only be occupied with this individual, this obsessive compulsion to always be thinking of him.  It’s an enabling situation that I’ve gotten myself into, and something I didn’t even know about myself!  So, that’s particularly upsetting to me, because I’ve always pictured myself as being in charge and in control and strong.  If you want something, you just go out there and make it happen.  That’s how I’ve lived a lot of my life.  When I see something I truly want, I go and I work for it.  But this is different, and I don’t want to be in that frame of mind.

ELIAS:  Now; in this motivation, in offering yourself less conflict, are you recognizing within yourself and identifying that this may be merely a temporary action, and that within this time framework, you are allowing yourself to be altering your perception, incorporating this time framework of removal, so to speak, to allow yourself a clarity in the identification of your participation, and addressing to self rather than holding your attention upon the other individual?

Let me express to you, this question holds significance in relation to your motivation and your accomplishment, in what you seek to be accomplishing in this situation.

PSEUDO:  I recognize ... I mean, as far as my mind goes, it’s the occupation of this other individual constantly being there.  That’s what I want to free.  I love him with all of my heart, and I don’t want him out of my life totally.  I don’t want to slam the door in his face and never speak to him again.  I still want him to be part of my life.  I just want my interactions with him to be different.

ELIAS:  I am understanding of this point that you are expressing.  What I am expressing to you is that temporarily, in situations such as this that you have presented to yourself, it may be quite helpful for you to be removing yourself from this interaction, that you may allow yourself more clarity objectively, and that you may allow yourself the opportunity to be focusing your attention upon self without interruption or distraction.

But I am also expressing to you to be aware in this action that the point is to be in actuality turning your attention to self, not disengaging interaction temporarily from this individual but continuing to hold your attention outwardly upon the choices of this individual.  Are you understanding what I am expressing to you?

PSEUDO:  I believe ... well, what I’m getting out of it is that you’re saying that I’m not shutting this individual out of my life totally in all aspects.  What I’m trying to do is to get him out of my thoughts, like from my waking moment until the time my head hits the pillow at night.  I mean, I probably think of him throughout the day at least 50 times, and wonder if he’s using, is he doing this....

So, that’s what I am gathering from your conversation, is that I am working towards eliminating that part of it, but he will still be in my life as far as ... you know, you don’t just cast someone out.  You don’t throw someone away because they have a problem, and that’s not what I want to do.  I just want to stop myself from thinking that I can fix that problem for him, because I can’t.

ELIAS:  I am understanding of what you are expressing.  Now, let me express to you, no, this is not what I am expressing to you.

I am quite understanding that regardless of your choice, you are engaging a choice of probabilities presently to be continuing in relationship with this individual throughout your physical focus.  You are concerning yourself with the type of relationship that you are engaging with this individual, which is quite understandable, for the type of relationship, in its design presently, that you engage with this individual creates much conflict within you.

But the viewing, in your attention, of the exhibition of behavior within yourself, such as occupying your attention in what you term to be every waking moment with the thoughts concerning this individual, is merely what you may term physically as a symptom.  This is a surface action.  This is not what I am addressing to in this conversation.

I am understanding that you yourself may engage more of an ease in allowing yourself to turn your perception if you are not distracting yourself with actual physical interaction with this individual temporarily.  This is understood.

What I am expressing to you is that you allow yourself in this time to be turning your attention from outside of yourself, where you are placing it now in relation to this individual and his choices, and rather, turn your attention in genuineness to yourself and your beliefs and your perception.

Now; this is not accomplished by expressing to yourself objectively, “I am realizing that this individual creates their reality, and this is fine with me, and I shall turn my attention and not be interactive with this individual, and I shall express to myself, I am stopping this action of attempting to be fixing this individual.”

These are surface directions, and in this direction, what you are in actuality expressing is the continuation of holding your attention outside of yourself.  Your attention has not been turned yet to self.  It continues to be focused upon the other individual, for what you are expressing is in relation to the other individual, not to self.

PSEUDO:  Yes, I understand.  It’s the other individual that’s making me wish to do this, but it’s not the other individual that I need to do this for.  I recognize that I need to do this for myself, not for him.

ELIAS:  No, this is not what I am expressing either.

PSEUDO:  Well, what?  I’m confused here!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha!

PSEUDO:  What ARE you expressing?  Please!

ELIAS:  (Grinning)  Very well.  Now; we shall attempt again.

In this, as you allow yourself a temporary time to not engage this individual, ALSO allow yourself to hold your attention with YOU, moving in directions that YOU choose to move in, recognizing that YOU are creating YOUR reality.

No other individual, temporarily, let us say, shall enter into your sphere, in a manner of speaking.  Your attention shall only be upon self, and in this, you may allow yourself permission to express, it matters not ANY choice that ANY other individual creates.

(Firmly)  What is creating the conflict is not the other individual’s choices, but how you view them.

PSEUDO:  Yes, I understand.  It’s just difficult to say that it’s okay.  I mean.... (Sighing)

ELIAS:  And this is the point....

PSEUDO:  I can accept a lot of things, and I accept that he has this problem, and that it’s more than just ... it’s a very, very addictive drug, and although I know he doesn’t want to use it, he still chooses to use it because of the hold that it has on him.  I’ve had this with other relatives in my family, as well as other people’s families that are close to me, and I know it’s a very, very, very addictive drug.

It’s just that ... it’s just hard for me to say, it’s okay for you to do this — to kill yourself, to destroy your liver and your cornea and everything else that all the data tells you that it does to you, this substance.  It’s not like he’s using a pure substance in this matter.  It’s street drugs, and it’s just ... and I’m worried about the health part of it.  I don’t want him to die.

ELIAS:  I am understanding, and this is the point.  This is what we are discussing — these very beliefs.  What shall it matter if this individual disengages?

PSEUDO:  Because I’d like to have him around.  He’s a very nice person.... (Becoming emotional)

ELIAS:  THIS is what we are addressing to — YOU, YOUR beliefs, YOUR emotions, YOUR thoughts, YOUR expressions; not the choices of the other individual — the beliefs that YOU engage.

One is your belief that the individual is victim to a substance.

In this, you translate in your beliefs that the substance is an entity within itself, and that it in itself expresses a power of action, and therefore creates an interaction with the other individual as a perpetrator.  You are speaking of a substance.

PSEUDO:  Yes, I understand.  I know I’m speaking of a substance, but from everything I’ve read and all of the experience I’ve had with it, it’s a very addictive substance.  It’s something that is not easily let go.

ELIAS:  And what I am expressing to you is the very core of the movement that we are addressing to, and this is in relation to beliefs, for these are extremely powerful and ARE quite influencing of each of your perceptions.

This actually, in reality, creates your reality.  This is the base line.  This is what I am expressing to you in ALL of this information that I am offering to you, the addressing of your....

PSEUDO:  You know, when I first started speaking to you, I felt that he was a victim because of his circumstances, his childhood, and his mother’s addiction with men, always marrying someone different.  But I’ve come to accept that he is not a victim.  He does create his own reality, and he alone is responsible for his own choices, and now I recognize that, finally.  It’s taken me awhile, (Elias chuckles) but I recognize that.

But I can’t ... what purpose is there, Elias, that someone would choose this path?  I mean, if he chooses to disengage, that’s fine, you know, because he’s already had two people in his family that are gone because of substance abuse and addiction.  I’m just praying that he will figure it out on his own before he disengages.

ELIAS:  Ah.

PSEUDO:  Because a lot of people really love him.

ELIAS:  I am understanding of what you are expressing.

Let me say to you once again, this is the point — the opportunity that you are presenting to yourself to view — to allow yourself to view the strength of these beliefs that are influencing of you.

You express to me, it is acceptable within yourself that this individual shall disengage.  I express to you, no, within your beliefs, it is NOT acceptable.  It is acceptable if this individual is choosing to be disengaging within certain criteria.  If this individual is choosing to be, in your very physical terms, killing himself in the use of these drugs, no, it is not acceptable.  You view this to be hurtful, and you are responsive to these choices quite strongly, and this creates an emotion of sadness within you.

Now; the emotion of sadness is neutral, and this is quite acceptable as an expression of emotion, but what we are addressing to are the beliefs that are influencing of that expression.  You may be expressing compassion and love and affection and understanding, caring — all of these expressions that you physically identify with within your physical focus — and you may also simultaneously allow yourself to recognize the beliefs that are influencing of you.

Let me express to you, this is the reason that I have expressed many, many times that there is trauma in association with this shift, for this shift is an action of addressing to your belief systems and moving into acceptance of them.  This is an extremely challenging and difficult action for many, many, if not most, individuals within....

PSEUDO:  Like me — definitely me!

ELIAS:  For this is very unfamiliar!

You express the identification that you DO associate this individual with the role of victim.  I have expressed quite clearly and quite definitely, there are no victims within your physical reality, period.

PSEUDO:  And I accept that — I finally accept that!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha!

PSEUDO:  I finally get it — I do, I do!  I get it.  He makes his own choices; I make my own choices.  Everything I do, I do because that’s my choice, and I want to do it, and if I want to do it, I will do it, regardless of the consequences ... not necessarily.  Sometimes your conscience steps in and stops you from doing something that you don’t want to do ... or that you want to do, but you know you shouldn’t do.  But sometimes you just say what the hell and you do it, and then you jump in feet first and you think later, and it’s later that there are the consequences to pay.

I mean, I’ve gotten myself embroiled in this situation on my own, because of my own choice that I made the first week that I saw him.  So....

ELIAS:  I am understanding, and accept from myself, I am not expressing chastisement to you.

PSEUDO:  Oh, no.  I understand.

ELIAS:  I am offering a possibility of direction that you may allow yourself to be contemplating, allowing yourself to perhaps turn your perception, realizing that the movement into acceptance is not the expression of disengaging your emotions.  You continue to be engaging your emotional expressions....

PSEUDO:  I just don’t want them to control me.

ELIAS:  And this is....

PSEUDO:  (Clearing throat)  Excuse me.

ELIAS:  This is the choice of movement into you addressing to self.

In this, as you recognize what YOU are creating ... I may express to you, in your association with this individual, you are creating a very similar expression to his choice of expression, merely in a different type of design.  You view him as being the victim of this drug, which creates a hold upon his reality, regardless that it be his choice.

PSEUDO:  Yes.

ELIAS:  You also view yourself to be the victim of his hold upon you.

PSEUDO:  How do I disengage that?

ELIAS:  By turning your attention to self and recognizing/identifying which belief systems are influencing you, allowing yourself to be paying attention to you, allowing yourself to begin identifying and recognizing your own beliefs and how they are influencing of your perception.  For I am not expressing that all of these actions are not quite real, for they are.  In this, each of them is identifiable by an aspect of a belief.

PSEUDO:  You know, I’m not trying to be (Elias smiles warmly) ... to say that I have never done anything that was not acceptable, because quite the contrary, when I was growing up, I experimented with drugs, drugs that I consider hard drugs.  I don’t consider ... I know pot is a drug as well, but I don’t consider it to be destructive unless it’s used in excess.  I think any drug that controls your life because you let it or whatever — it’s your choice — I think that ... I think it’s the individual.  You’re right — it’s probably not the drug.  It’s the individual and their perception, their own beliefs as to what is okay and what’s acceptable and what’s not acceptable.

ELIAS:  Yes!  Yes, and this, I shall offer to you one point!

This IS the identification — the individual and their perception and their beliefs concerning a particular substance.

The substance in itself, regardless of how you identify it, or what is associated with it in mass belief systems, and whether it may be identified as natural or as you view synthetic — it matters not.

ALL substances are a creation of YOU, and therefore, they are an extension of you in physical creation and they are an aspect of you, and in themselves do not incorporate ANY innate negative OR positive qualities.  They are neutral within themselves.  It is your beliefs and your perceptions that create the effects physically that are exhibited as you engage these substances.

PSEUDO:  Do you think, Elias ... I mean, to me, it seems like a lot of it goes back to, “You are who you associate with.”  I’ve tried to let him know that when you surround yourself with good people, good things will happen.  When you surround yourself with bad people, bad things happen.  It’s just one of the forces of nature, unfortunately.

Do you think that because it was acceptable, like to his family, not his family meaning like his mother or his little sister or that sort of thing, but he grew up with a family that had many, many addictions to alcohol/drugs, so I guess in their family, there was an acceptance of that, and again, here is a belief system, so perhaps he recognizes that because it’s always been in his life, it’s okay.  It’s a part of his life, and the unfortunate thing is, for me ... I feel it has just taken hold of him rather than him being in charge of it.

ELIAS:  In addressing to your question, I shall express to you that there are some assumed beliefs, in association with the family members, that this individual has adopted, so to speak.

I may also express to you, one of the aspects of beliefs that is influencing of this individual, in like manner to other individuals in his particular family unit, so to speak, is not necessarily that this action is acceptable, but rather an alignment with mass belief systems that it is NOT acceptable, and it is incorporated to be reinforcing of another aspect of his own beliefs, in like manner to family members, that he himself or that they are not acceptable.  Therefore, they reinforce this belief concerning self with an action that they also believe to be destructive.

PSEUDO:  Yeah, I’ll say. (Sighing)

ELIAS:  Now; let me also express to you, as I have offered to you previously, as you continue to be expressing an alignment with this belief also, there is a recognition of this in energy by this individual, and this reinforces this movement.  As you express the unacceptability of this type of action also, this is a confirmation to the individual.  It lends energy to the very action that he is choosing to be creating, for you are in agreement with him.

PSEUDO:  (Sighing)  Okay, I think I get it.

ELIAS:  Ah! (Chuckling)

PSEUDO:  Do you think ... this is just a thought because I recently had a conversation with my sister, who is with a gentleman younger than her who was diagnosed as being manic-depressive or bipolar.  Do you think that my godson’s energy field could just be out of whack?  Doesn’t that naturally happen in people sometimes, that their energy is just out of alignment?  Do you think he might be bipolar?

ELIAS:  I may express to you that it is not necessarily a question of being out of alignment.  I may also express to you that this is not a malfunction or a dis-ease.  It is identified through your society as a malfunction.

It is a choice of the individual to be creating a reality through a different type of perception, and what is creating of conflict — or what YOU term to be problems within your reality — for the individual and for other individuals that associate with the individual, is that the individual[s] themselves align with the mass belief system that they are creating a malfunction.

PSEUDO:  No, but you know what?  This is one of the things that I do love about him!  He is a non-conformer!  He does not ... I mean, yes, he is probably, I’m sure, controlled by a lot of his inward beliefs, but he is a little rebel, you know?  Everything I hate about him are the very things that draw me to him!  So I guess that somewhere down deep, I must also have that rebel in me, (Elias grins) or I wouldn’t do some of the things that I do, just because I want to do them!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha!

PSEUDO:  Why is it that when we are together, our energy is just so ... it hums, it arcs, and it’s just too powerful sometimes.  Why do two people create that type of energy between them?

ELIAS:  You create this type of interaction in energy between you, for you hold a recognition that you may be quite beneficial and challenging to each other.  You allow an openness, and in that openness, you also allow each other to challenge yourselves in addressing to each of your directions and choices.

In this, you allow yourselves, in a manner of speaking, a comfortableness, although objectively, you identify that you are quite uncomfortable many times.  But let me express to you, were you not to be engaging this openness with each other, you would not be expressing the identification of uncomfortableness.

PSEUDO:  Well, then how do we not be open?  I mean, he holds in what he really feels, and I hold in what I really feel?

ELIAS:  No.  Why shall you create a lack of openness?  This is not the point.  Merely to allow yourself an action of recognition and acceptance — which shall eliminate much of the conflict associated with your openness — is the point.

In this, you may continue to be expressing openness, and you may even express challenging to each other, for this is in actuality quite stimulating to you both within each of your physical focuses.

I am expressing to you that you allow yourself to be channeling this energy into an expression in which you become more familiar with self and accepting of self, and this shall automatically eliminate much of your conflict.

And in that, you may approach these interactions quite differently, and in your challenging and your complementing of energy with each other, you may be expressing without the conflict quite differently, and expressing emotional qualities quite differently, in actuality.

PSEUDO:  Well, that’s a good thing, because I need to do that.  I don’t know how it got so out of control, to tell you the truth.  It was like this frenetic, frenzied energy, with me trying to impose my beliefs on him, and him rebelling against it, but I think we’ve both really grown a lot in the last few months.  In fact, when I saw him last, which was just a couple weeks ago, I left him with the tape of my first session with you, so he could listen to it and maybe figure out why we interact as we interact and understand it better, as I’ve come to, somewhat.

So I’m curious, when I do see him or speak to him, to see what his reactions are to this tape, because I have no idea.  I didn’t tell him anything about it.  I just said, just listen.  There’s a lot of really good information here, and that’s the whole purpose of what Elias is trying to do in communicating with us in our dimension, is just to share the information to alleviate conflict and hopefully stress in our lives.  So I’m curious to see, whenever I do see him again, if he’s had a chance to listen to it thoroughly, and I told him, you have to listen to it more than one time, because each time you hear it, there’s something that you missed the time before.

ELIAS:  Let me express to you also, my friend, you may also allow yourself to be noticing and paying attention to emotional expressions and qualities, and how you associate with emotional expressions, and even how this other individual associates with emotional expressions ...

PSEUDO:  He’s very emotional!

ELIAS:  ... for there is a leaning in a direction of association with you each to be expressing a dissatisfaction with emotional expressions at times, and associating a lack of acceptance of the emotions in themselves in a negative manner.

It may be helpful to you to be exploring these types of associations, for in the acceptance of your emotional expressions in the moment, you may also be eliminating of many aspects of conflict within yourselves and between you, for your expressions in emotions are neither good or bad.

PSEUDO:  They’re just out there.  The emotions I’m okay with, for the most part.  Well, not really, but....

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha!

PSEUDO:  I accept them for what they are as they happen.  I recognize that it’s a natural thing that occurs whenever you are so involved in something.  What I want ... the withdrawal, for me, I want to be more on a physical nature, because I don’t want to always be calling every two or three days to see if he is okay.  That is what I don’t want to do.  I don’t want to get myself sucked in as deep as I was, you know?

I love him, as I told you, and you know that, but he’s a master manipulator.  I mean, I’m telling you, he’s a seduction artist, and he’s gone his whole life being able to have other people do for him what he really should be doing for himself, but ... I don’t know.  I just want my participation in that manner to cease.

ELIAS:  I am understanding, and I shall be continuing to offer you much energy from this essence to be helpful in your exploration.

PSEUDO:  Well, hopefully, this will be one of the last conversations that we have on this, because I feel like I’m beating a dead horse!

ELIAS:  Ah....

PSEUDO:  I want the freedom — I want my freedom of mind back!

ELIAS:  I am understanding, but do not be discounting of yourself.  You are not “beating a dead horse,” so to speak.  You are merely inquiring for more information, that you may be allowing yourself more of an ease in the movement that you are seeking.

PSEUDO:  Yes, I guess I do have to follow that path, but I just have so many other questions!  I hate wasting a whole hour on this subject all the time!  Know what I mean? (Laughing)

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

PSEUDO:  Anyway, alright.  Well, I feel better!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha!  I express great affection to you, my friend!  You ARE accomplishing! (Chuckling)

PSEUDO:  I feel like I am, because I want to.  I think when I totally come to the absolute reality that I just need to take care of me, and let others take care of themselves, I’ll be fine. (Elias chuckles)

And with that, I bid you au revoir! (Mimicking Elias)

ELIAS:  HA HA HA HA!

PSEUDO:  How’s that for an Elias imitation?

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha!  Very good!

PSEUDO:  Very good, he says!

ELIAS:  I shall express to you, be playful!  Attempt!

PSEUDO:  Thank you!  I had forgotten, you know?  I had forgotten how to be playful! (Elias laughs)

But you know what?  I bought my husband a beautiful motorcycle for his 50th birthday in hopes of being playful this summer, and then he went off and got a job, and now he’s gone till October, so it’s just sitting here, and I look at it every day, thinking, I was gonna have a lot of fun this summer!  What happened?  So that’s another subject.  We’ll go there soon!

ELIAS:  Very well! (Laughing)

PSEUDO:  Alright.  Listen, you have a great day!

ELIAS:  To you in tremendous affection, au revoir!

PSEUDO:  Au revoir!

Elias departs at 9:52 a.m.

© 2001  Vicki Pendley/Mary Ennis, All Rights Reserved

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Copyright 2000 Mary Ennis, All Rights Reserved.