Sunday, January 28, 1996 ©
1996


Participants: Mary (Michael), Vicki (Lawrence), Ron (Olivia),
Guin (Sophia), Tom (James), Jeri (Fromasch), and ... Shynla.


Note: Mary was not feeling well at all this evening. In
spite of this, Elias was very focused and very direct, obviously not incorporating
her physical symptoms at all. Also note that in Elias' phone conversation
with Cathy, he held the phone up to his left ear, which Mary can barely
hear out of.


Elias arrives at 7:07 PM.





ELIAS: Good evening. I will first address to a concern of another essence
which has interacted with Lawrence, taking issue with one of my analogies
at our last session. This essence of Ruburt
takes issue with my description of the interaction of Sumari and Sumafi
families. Therefore, I will clarify.


Your interpretation of my analogy may be distorted, this being why this
concern has been raised. In actuality, this essence is correct. There is
no before and after. There is all, simultaneous. I did not mean to be expressing
to you that one essence family would be appearing physically within physical
manifestation followed by another, and then the original following after
the second family; for they exist at the same time.


I am understanding of the concern of this essence, in the element that
you may be distorting of this information. Therefore, I clarify to you
that within physical terms, the Sumari does not "poof", appear upon your
planet! They are incorporated within all of your civilizations, continuously.
They only surface as a group with an intent, of moving and jarring your
existing cultures. Therefore, he is correct. There is no before or after.


I apologize for delivering an analogy that may be confusing to you,
as this particular subject is a very close subject to this particular essence,
and of great concern that it not be distorted. Therefore, my clarification.


TOM: Well, thank you, but I didn't see it as before and after. I saw
it all as one anyway.


ELIAS: I was assuring that these essences present would be incorporating
this information properly, but I am also understanding of concern of other
essence, which is very involved with the essence family of Sumari and not
wishing this family to be misinterpreted within physical terms. This distortion
is quite normal within physical manifestation; therefore the concern was
valid.


VICKI: (Picking her jaw up off the floor long enough to ask a question)
This Ruburt being the same Ruburt that I'm reading a book by right now???


ELIAS: Correct.


VICKI: Oh, wow!


JERI: You speak so softly, Vicki. The same Ruburt that what?


VICKI: That I'm reading a book by right now.


ELIAS: Being not physically manifest presently, but also being quite
a dream artist himself, and quite adept at connecting within dream state.


VICKI: Wow! (Pause)


RON: So does this have to do with the dream that Lawrence had? (Elias
acknowledges)


VICKI: Thank you. I was going to ask about that tonight.


ELIAS: You are welcome. (Pause) I will also offer to you, within this
example, that although I have offered you information of essence families,
you will now see, through interaction, that although you may be connected
with a particular essence family, there are no segregations. There are
no separations or divisions. All families cross over each other.


You may view these families to be the same as "psychic races", just
as you incorporate different physical races upon your planet with characteristics
of their own, but each also incorporating individuals with their own individual
focuses. In this same way, you align with these essence families, who may
be also interpreted as races. You each (Here, Jeri leaves the room, appearing
to be choking on something. Elias pauses, eyes closed, apparently accessing
the situation, and then continues) possess your own individual qualities
and individuality, but are belonging to essence families.


Therefore, just as within physical focus you may be manifest as of African
lineage, therefore your skin tone may be dark, but you may incorporate,
within your physical manifestation individually, very different qualities.
You may choose to become a medical practitioner which is dominated by another
physical race. Therefore, you also possess qualities aligning with other
essence families, even though you are incorporated within a specific essence
family. Are you understanding of these concepts?


RON: Basically.


TOM: Well, yes and no. So what you're saying is, in this physical focus,
is though we might be brown-skinned, we're all tied up in all our families
as basically as one, but we chose to have this choice as a brown-skinned
or a black-skinned person, let it be oriental, let it be white ...


ELIAS: Incorrect. I am using this as an example. View, on your one hand,
physical focus. Within physical focus, upon this planet that you inhabit,
you manifest within many races, correct? (Tom agrees) These races, within
themselves, focus individually in different manifestations. Certain races
excel in certain elements of physical focus. Some do not align with some
elements of physical focus.


On your other hand, in comparison to physical focus and races within
your physical manifestation, you incorporate essence families, which would
be in comparison to your physical races. In this, they mirror. You also,
within these essence families, incorporate elements which cross over the
designs of each essence family. I am making a comparison between physical
focus and non-physical focus, that you may easier understand essence families.
(Pause)


TOM: So these essence families, on one hand, is physically focused individuals
that we are here. Did that hypothetically originate from the beginning?
In other words, did these essences over here collectively have the thought
of creating this over here?


ELIAS: All that is physically manifest is a mirror image of what already
exists within consciousness. (Pause) You project outward and create what
you already know as reality. (Pause)


TOM: Gotcha.


ELIAS: I was not wishing, as I have stated, to be discussing these essence
families in the manner of perpetuating your issue of separation. This is
not the point. I have offered this information, that you may better understand
yourselves and your connections.


TOM: Thank you, Elias. I'll try to widen on that.


ELIAS: Be remembering also, in viewing this particular transcript, read
carefully; for I have gone to lengths being careful in choosing wording,
that you may not incorporate separation. You are not "born into" these
essence families. They did not come first. Your individuality is always
paramount. You magnate to essence families because you "like" them!


TOM: This is kind of off the beaten path. Have I ever had a physical
focus as a woman?


ELIAS: Yes.


TOM: I've been touching on that lately, I guess the feminine side of
me, more so in the last couple of weeks than ever in my life. Oh, excuse
me!


ELIAS: (Grinning) In this life! (Laughter)


TOM: Got a connection?


ELIAS: Continue with your connection; for the more information you provide
yourself, as to yourself, the more you widen your awareness.


TOM: Thank you. (Pause)


ELIAS: Yes, Lawrence?


VICKI: Well, I have more than one question tonight. I would like to
ask, in our game last Sunday I noticed, when I did the transcript, that
Ron and I both had quite a bit of trouble verbalizing a game question,
and I noticed you found this quite amusing, both times, in very much the
same way.


ELIAS: (Grinning) I will, in addressing to this question, ask you to
be stopping at this moment and connecting. Close your eyes and feel. Allow
yourselves to experience. (Pause, while we all attempt this) Now, express
to me: What do you experience? What do you notice?


VICKI: I noticed only a lot of what seemed to be light flashes.


GUIN: I noticed heaviness.


JERI: I went somewhere else when you were first explaining this. I missed
something before you said close your eyes and experience this, so I think
I missed out on what you were ...


ELIAS: It matters not. The experience will incorporate.


JERI: Well, I just saw ... lightness is a good word. Somebody used that.
Vicki used that word.


ELIAS: James?


TOM: I was trying to touch on the female side of me. I was also thinking
about what you had to say previous.


ELIAS: I am not speaking of thinking.


TOM: Oh. What did I feel?


ELIAS: Correct.


TOM: I felt the female side.


RON: I felt the same heaviness, and a lot of purple.


ELIAS: Now I will express to you, you are experiencing interference.
It is quite slight to each of you. It may be experienced as a slight confusion.
It may be experienced as a flash. It may feel heavy. It may feel very present.
At different moments within our sessions, you may experience what I would
term to be a slight disorientation. In this, you may be forgetful for one
of your seconds. This is not Elias. This is your pyramid side. This is
energy being sent, through consciousness, by Shynla, which will interfere.
She is not understanding of what she is incorporating, therefore her energy
is quite scattered; not very directed as of yet. Therefore, within our
session time, you may experience disorientation. You may also experience
forgetfulness, or heart-palpitating, or energy tingling; these all being
manifestations of consciousness being projected by another essence into
your physical space. Be aware that she is present.


VICKI: Is she quite a bit more present tonight than previously?


ELIAS: Her presence this evening is no more incorporated than previously,
although she is practicing and becoming more directed within her focus.
As she develops with her abilities, she may project more efficiently, and
you may be recognizing of her presence more; this being also the reason
Yarr was experiencing such difficulty in expressing himself at your gathering
previously, and also the irritation resulting from his lack of expression.
The energy was being felt, and each of you was responding differently.
You may connect with Shynla to exchange experiences, for she also incorporates
experience from this end, so to speak. (Pause)


VICKI: And is she making a connection with the pond?


ELIAS: I reserve comment, temporarily; for she may be investigating
and connecting more clearly, and Michael may draw his picture. (Grinning,
and a pause)


GUIN: I have a question about that, the feeling that I felt, the heaviness.
I've written down on notes that I've taken during the sessions since I've
been coming, and I've also expressed to Vicki different feelings as far
as heart palpitations, and the heaviness, and the head feeling like it's
going to explode, thinking that it was connecting to you, but obviously
not. Can you tell me obviously what those feelings are, that I was having
previous to what you just explained, just now, about Shynla? Obviously,
she was here before.


ELIAS: You are wishing to be understanding of these feelings generally,
or within connection to Shynla?


GUIN: The feelings that I have in the sessions ...


ELIAS: Are not connected with Shynla; this also being interesting; for
as you are aware already, many times I reserve explanation until you have
accumulated more information for yourselves. In this way, you learn more
efficiently, for you trust yourselves within your experience. (The following
refers to our meeting with Chuck Roberts)


In this, within this week of your time, you have all experienced many
movings, one of which was allowing new information of this phenomenon.
Although you, Sophia, were not present physically to be listening to the
exchange, you also have the benefit of the shared experience. In this,
I will address also to issues that were incorporated within the discussion.
We have touched upon this issue previously. It was unimportant at the time
to be expounding upon this issue, for essentially it would only accomplish
incorporating more fear. Now I may explain to you elements of non-physical focus
which are affecting of physical focus.


Within your desire to be connecting, you have employed much meditation,
and have also focused upon opening your consciousness. Be careful. I do
not express this to all individuals. I express this in response to certain
individuals, whose belief systems are influencing of their experiences.
Together with your own consciousness, you may manifest elements within
your physical expression that may be uncomfortable; and within an open
state, you may also invite mischief. I am not expressing danger. There
is quite a difference, for there is no evil; do not misunderstand me; but
there is mischief. In this, you may misinterpret mischievousness, and you
yourself may incorporate these energies into a fearful situation, for you
will create this. Are you understanding what I am expressing?


GUIN: Kind of.


ELIAS: Many essences incorporate the ability to be connecting. Their
intention is not harmful, but within your physical consciousness and your
limitations of understanding, you may misinterpret. Therefore, you may
create uncomfortable situations for yourself, incorporating other energies
within an open state.


GUIN: How do I know? How do I ... I don't understand. How ...


ELIAS: You know my energy. You may not think you know, but you do. You
are comfortable with my energy. All you need be aware of is yourself. Trust
within yourself and your desire, and you will be fine. Essences, I repeat,
are not intrusive. Therefore, as I have expressed to you previously, no
essence will intrude upon you without your permission; but within your
desire to be connecting and your desire to be experiencing, sometimes you
are in agreement. Therefore, be aware, and you will be fine.


VICKI: And this is what happened with Chuck?


ELIAS: Correct. This is not an intrusive situation. These essences were
not intrusive. They do not possess "powers of manipulation"! He, as do
you all, possesses equal power, so to speak. Within his desire, he was
inviting. If the invitation is extended, it will be accepted. We need not
worry of this with Ron, for the invitation is not extended! (Grinning)
Sometimes within the individual, their zeal for learning and wishing to
experience overrides their judgment. If you are clear, and if you are noticing,
you need not worry.


GUIN: That leads me to another question that I have written down. I'm
having a hard time understanding, or becoming more aware of being able
to notice, obviously, because you say it's already there, and I'm just
being a little blind, I guess.


ELIAS: I will express to you also that at individual points within your
attempt to be widening, you may be blocking.
I will express to you that within your dream states, the one element that
our dream interpreter has not connected is that you each involve an element
of conflict or blocking. In this, you are all incorporating this at the
same time, so to speak, for you are all riding upon your "wave of widening".
In this, you may each individually be widening in different areas with
different focuses; but as I have explained to you, you are all connected,
and as you each strive to be moving through issues and widening your awareness,
you affect each other. Therefore, what one incorporates is affecting of
all the others, and as you are all moving, you are all affecting each other.
Therefore, it is seeming to you that you are moving in waves. You all move,
or you all do not move, for you are all affecting of each other. You create
a "psychic wave", so to speak, which carries you all through.


Those of you who are seeming to be experiencing a more difficult time
at moving through issues will be furthered and carried along within this
wave, as resulting from those who are seemingly stronger within their focus.
You are all benefiting of each other. You are moving. You would not be
experiencing so many conflicts within your dream state, or meditative state,
if you were not engaging your issues.


GUIN: "K". Here, I want you to take these. (She holds her keys out to
Elias) Please! (Elias holds his hand out for the keys) They're my keys!
Take them! Now, tell me! (Elias chuckles) You have them!


ELIAS: I do not! (Drops the keys on the floor)


GUIN: Yes! (Laughter)


ELIAS: You speak not!


GUIN: Okay, so how do I give them to you, so you can ...


ELIAS: Formulate what you view to be your issue.


GUIN: I know it has to do with a fear. That's pretty easy, I guess,
and I'm trying to figure out if my conflict has to do with a few issues
or if it is just based with one, and I'm asking for your help or a hint
or a clue or something to point me in the right direction!


ELIAS: You must direct. You incorporate many issues. Focus and isolate.
In which direction are you wishing of helpfulness? (Pause)


GUIN: In all of them! (Pause, with Elias grinning widely) I'll just
be like this some more. It's alright.


ELIAS: Hmmm ... Never mind ... (Humorously egging her on)


GUIN: I don't know! I've been talking, like you said, and trying to
let other people help me figure it out too, and I don't
know!


ELIAS: Think to yourself, Sophia; you create your reality. You have
always created your reality! Therefore, your experiences are yours, for
your noticing. Let me explain to you; you view yourselves as one instrument
that may play limited notes and chords. View yourself as the symphony.
You are all of the instruments, and you are the director. Where your attention
projects to, the individual instrument plays, within every element of your
focus. Therefore, you create all of your experiences.


If you are focusing upon a composer, do you look to this composer who
has composed a symphony, such as your Beethoven number five; we will use
this for Michael's benefit; very harsh, tempestuous sound, very struggling,
tragic. Do you view this as bad? No. You do not ask the composer, "Why
would you compose such a terrible piece of music?" You feast your ears
and your senses upon the composition. You revel in its beauty of tone.
You view it as only different from this same composer's symphony of six,
which is light, and easy, and airy, and beautiful, and joyous. They are
both compositions. They are both beautiful. They are both creations, neither
being good or bad, but both being artful, and both offered for their experience.


In this same way, you orchestrate your developmental focus, incorporating
the tragic and the joyous, for the experience. There are times when you
orchestrate tragedy to experience the vitality of your being. This is not
to say that what you view as negative or what you experience as tragic
is more vital than joyous, but its intensity may be different; therefore
the experience is different. You focus upon these experiences more. You
are trying to "figure them out"; therefore they attract your attention.
In this, view your experiences. Understand that you have created them
for your own noticing, and view what you may extract from your experiences
to further your development and widening. You have asked me a very general
question. I have offered an all-encompassing answer. If you are wishing
for very specific answers, then I will be instructing you to be focusing
and formulating very specific questions. I have reasons for directing you
within specific areas. You choose to not focus specifically, therefore
you do not deal with your issues. You hold them static. Therefore, it is
equally important that you be able to formulate specific ideas and questions;
to isolate your uncomfortableness. Therefore, you offer yourself the opportunity
to be viewing these elements within yourself, which you are not viewing;
for you incorporate this as easier to be "generally feeling badly" of everything,
and not specifically of anything; but within this generality, you hold
the conflict static within this regional area. If you are truly wishing
to be moving through this issue more quickly, for you are moving, then
I am suggesting that you ask yourself specifics. Are you understanding?


GUIN: Yeah. The only one, so's I can just get specific, is an issue
like, obviously, of some kind of fear with you.


ELIAS: This being generated, within dream state, by all of the individuals
within our group; for you are all moving upon this wave, and you are approaching
a wider understanding. You are familiar and comfortable with your limited
understanding. You each incorporate a fear of unknown, beyond. I am unknown,
beyond!


GUIN: Is that my anxiety about coming, and about not being here in the
last couple sessions?


ELIAS: Partially. Partially, there is a very conscious knowing that
within the incorporation of this group and connecting with Elias, you will
push yourself to be facing issues. You are unwilling to be incorporating
this. If you are not involved with me, you do not need to be involved with
you; but you may only go to a certain point with me without involving you;
and you are aware of this.


GUIN: I'm obviously at that point.


ELIAS: Then it is your choice.


GUIN: Okay.


ELIAS: I will be waiting, affectionately.


GUIN: Thank you. (Pause)


VICKI: I have a question. It's a dream question. In my dream the other
night, I spoke with you and you gave me a message for a little boy. I couldn't
interpret that for myself.


ELIAS: (Pausing) This being the message within the dream state; I am
accessing. (Pause) Your question is of which interpretation?


VICKI: You gave me a message for a little boy that was in our company,
regarding coming to the session tonight, and I just didn't understand.


ELIAS: To be with me, to be involved within watching a game! (Vicki
acknowledges; note here that Ron is snoring quite loudly, causing Elias
to raise his voice a bit) These are symbols. The little boy you have already
connected with, the little boy being Sophia; to which I was wishing to
speak and anticipating this confrontation. The little boy was not wishing
to be confronting this, this evening, and was wishing to be watching your
(pause) Super Bowl ball game at home; and you were to be influencing, to
be helpful in incorporating this meeting, this evening. A job well done!
(Pause, then to Guin) Such scowls! We will discuss further. I will offer
you specifics.


GUIN: I've just gotta figure it out first!


ELIAS: You do not need to be figuring out all of your answers; only
your questions!


GUIN: Why is not good enough?! (Elias chuckles)


ELIAS: Why, why, why???


GUIN: Why does a kid step in a mud puddle? (Mouthing the words)


ELIAS: Exactly!


GUIN: Well, here's one. Lawrence and I were talking, and we were discussing
about a conversation that Michael and Lawrence were having about the connections
of the fragmented essences from certain essences, such as yourself or Patel
or Twylah; and Jim and Jeri and myself being fragmented from Twylah, and
the only connection they saw was us all wanting to be our own business
owners and yet having so much conflict in our own business, creating financial
conflicts and others. Can you explain the similarities between the three
of that? Is the conflicts the same?


ELIAS: Similar; this all similarly stemming from an untrustingness of
self, a lacking of confidence and trust within each individual self, which
all of these essences incorporates the sameness in. There is also very
strong drive to be in control, so to speak. These are manifestations of
your attempts to be directing of yourselves and in control of your situations,
your focus. Therefore, you create situations to which you may be in control,
but you incorporate much conflict, for you do not trust your own abilities
within yourselves.


You are, in motivation, furthering your
creation; not for yourselves, but for others. You do not create these creations
from a knowing and confidence within yourselves, as an expression of yourselves
put forth. You create these expressions as a partial expression of self,
for approval. Within this objective, these creations are, so to speak,
destined to be creating conflict; although, in clarifying, there is no
destiny!


GUIN: So by gaining confidence and acceptance of ourselves, we'll be
able to uncreate the conflicts with our businesses, and have more successful
businesses?


ELIAS: This is correct. Your motivation is what is creating your
conflict. Your desire follows your intent; therefore the creation.
Your motivation, in direction, deviates; therefore conflict.


GUIN: Does this happen to be a partial personality trait that was fragmented
from Twylah, that happens to be in the three of us and not in anybody else
in the group?


ELIAS: I will not express affirmative in this area, for this is perpetuating
of your separation; to be in what you would express as "pigeon-holing"
yourselves and identifying yourselves separately, as different from other
individuals. I wish not to perpetuate these ideas, for this is untrue.
Many individuals incorporate this same action, and are not fragmented of
Twylah. Therefore, it is not isolated as an identifying quality.


GUIN: So it has something to do with Twylah, but not really?


ELIAS: Your connections have elements that are involved with Twylah.
Your personality elements are connected with Twylah. Your manifestations
are your own.


JERI: You look tired. Would you like to take a break, Elias?


ELIAS: I will be expressing that I will accept a slight amount more
of your time for your questions, but I will be discontinuing. I do not
experience "tired", although the physical expression that Michael incorporates
is within a weakened condition at present time. Therefore, I will be respectful
of this, and be retiring shortly. Continue with your question.


JERI: Okay. I have a few. One thing I'd like to know, if I didn't misinterpret,
why would I create such a serious heart condition
and the resulting things that I've gone through, problems I had with my
angiogram, which were very serious at the time, and then resulting in a
very major heart surgery. If we create our own reality, then I guess I
created this, and I don't understand why.


ELIAS: (Pausing) Are you wishing for answer within this forum?


JERI: Yes, if it wouldn't be taxing to everybody else.


ELIAS: I am not being concerned with other individuals. (Very directly)
I am concerned with you.


JERI: Yes, I would.


ELIAS: Very well. Partially, I will ask you to refer to the differences
of symphonies, to which we spoke earlier; some incorporating very somber
emotion, some being very joyous; both being the same in quality, only different
within emotion. This is partially the reasoning of your creating of these
issues.


Another reasoning in these creations is an issue of personal responsibility,
to which you incorporate physical aspects of creation with your own expression;
as a daughter, as a partner, as a mother. You incorporate within yourself
a personal responsibility to others to which you may not live up to, for
it is not possible, for you may only incorporate responsibility for yourself.
Therefore, the frustration of not having the ability to actualize this
responsibility creates physical symptoms. Your body is very attuned to
your consciousness. It responds to what you direct.


Also, another element of this is your incorporation of attention; not
for yourself. Many individuals create physical maladies for their own attention.
You have created physical maladies to draw to you a certain type of attention,
within a nurturing manner, to which you do not feel comfortable asking
for. Therefore, you create these physical maladies to be obtaining
what you need, within emotional supportiveness, without asking another
individual to be expressing to you; for you feel, within yourself, that
this would be inappropriate. You are to be expressing strength and independence.
Within this, it is inappropriate to be asking for nurturing and supportiveness,
viewing these things as dependency, which they are not, but you have incorporated
this as a belief system. Therefore, you create situations which allow you
to accept other individuals helpfulness, within supportiveness and emotional
comfort, without asking. You do not sacrifice your view of independence,
and you do not ... (Pause)


Interference with Michael! Excuse me!


(To Vicki) This being ...


(To Jeri) I will finish this thought for you; one moment. (To Vicki)
This being an example, physically focused, of your book, of this essence
being respectful of the individual incorporating this phenomenon being
physically tired. Michael is impatient! (To Jeri) In continuing, this allows
you, within your belief systems, to be accepting without feeling undue
dependency. If you are physically unable to be performing, then you are
not responsible for the dependence; therefore this is acceptable to you.
It is not necessary, for you each are, by nature, independent; but you
each are dependent upon each other, within physical focus and within consciousness,
for you are all interconnected. This is understood. You only, within your
belief systems, believe that this is undesirable. You place a value judgment
upon strength and weakness. You formulate belief systems around these ideas;
therefore you create what you view to be undesirable situations, within
your focus, to compensate for those belief systems.


JERI: So then I must change, or drop, or get rid of these belief systems,
or I might continually create!


ELIAS: You will!


JERI: I hope I can do that. I must do that! I can't go through that
other stuff again!


ELIAS: Moving through issues, within your focus, you will not view to
be easy; but when you are accomplishing, you will realize the effortlessness
beyond.


JERI: Would allowing myself to ask for the nurturing and emotional support
I need help me with this?


ELIAS: Absolutely! Do not be afraid of yourself. Allow yourself your
expression. In denying your emotional focus, you block yourself. You create
conflict.


JERI: One quick question, because I know you have to go. It has to do
with my first successful mirror meditation last Tuesday, (Elias starts
grinning) and one question was, was I correct in feeling your energy presence?


ELIAS: Yes. (Still grinning)


JERI: And I viewed my mother's face so many times,
so clearly, and I was wondering if it was because of a mother-daughter
fragmentation, or perhaps because five days earlier I was informed that
she fell down and broke her nose, and I felt so much pain for her and her
inability to express whether she hurts or doesn't hurt, because of the
Alzheimer's, and I wondered if I kept seeing my mother in this mirror meditation
because of ... what I just said; mother-daughter fragmentation, or ...


ELIAS: I will express to you that your willingness for connection, and
your concern, is a partial explanation, in allowing yourself to be open;
but in actuality, as I have expressed previously, within this state of
consciousness of transition, it is quite common for these individuals to
be experiencing "out of body". They travel quite a bit! Therefore,
within the cooperation of your openness and the projection of her excursion,
you have connected. This is what you have viewed. In this, you may be noticing
this is not imagination and not merely what you think of as visualizing,
although your visualization is quite reality; but this is an actual projection
of an out of body connection.


JERI: On her part?


ELIAS: Correct.


JERI: I felt that she came to visit. I felt it very strongly. I felt
like I could converse, to tell her that I was sorry, that I hoped she wasn't
hurting, and so forth, mentally. I felt there was something going back
and forth.


ELIAS: This is correct. You may be communicating. Her desire to be communicating
with you also is quite strong. Be understanding, though, that within this
state of transition, her perception of your present state is not always
accurate, for her viewing of you is all simultaneous. Therefore, within
one moment she may be viewing you as you are manifest presently, or within
the next moment she may be viewing you and interacting with you, speaking
to you at your age of five; for she views you simultaneously. Therefore,
your image changes continuously within her perception; so she may not always
connect with what your are saying, but she will connect with what you feel.


JERI: And the indigo beams of light radiating between my vision and
my mirror vision, was there a special significance?


ELIAS: This is merely a connection with color as radiated connecting
with the essence of the game.


JERI: Thank you very much.


ELIAS: You are welcome. (Pause)


VICKI: Do you have any comment on our interaction with Kasha?


ELIAS: You may watch your probabilities. I have been in constant connection
with Kasha, as also with Catherine, as I have expressed previously. Her
desires are genuine. Her intention, not intent but intention, is positive;
but she also incorporates blocks in fears, much the same as Sophia, to
a greater degree.


VICKI: Do I need to be concerned about my uncomfortable
dream regarding that situation last night?


ELIAS: No. This is another expression of what I was expressing earlier.
Within this wave that you are all experiencing, you are all experiencing
elements, within your dream state, of unknowns, uncertainties, fearfulness,
conflict. You are moving into an area of unknown reality. In this,
you do not know what to expect. This is being manifest within your dream
state, for you are close.


(To Ron) And shall I make comment to Olivia, of entering into sacred
space? You did not expect me to be leaving without comment of this! I may
incorporate some territorialness still, within non-physical focus! I will
be speaking to Michael of this also. We shall not be meeting at our pond
if he is being unfaithful! (We all crack up, including Elias) And with
this, I shall be leaving you this evening.


TOM: Good night, Elias.


ELIAS: I will be interacting with you soon. Au revoir!


JERI: Good night.


Elias departs at 8:46 PM


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