Friday, August 4, 2000
© 2001 (Private/Phone)
Participants:  Mary (Michael) and Frank (Ulra).
Elias arrives at 11:27 a.m. (Arrival time is 17 seconds)

ELIAS:  Good morning!

FRANK:  Good morning!  Nice to speak to you again!

ELIAS:  (Chuckling)  And you also!

FRANK:  Thank you very much!

Well, let’s see.  I’ve got different things to talk to you about today.  I think where I would like to start is by asking you about the essence names, orientations, and families of my wife and our two daughters.

ELIAS:  Very well. (Pause)  First individual....

FRANK:  Oh, my wife Laura.

ELIAS:  Essence name, Cardelete; C-A-R-D-E-L-E-T-E. (care-dah-leet’)  Essence family, Tumold; alignment, Ilda; orientation, common.

FRANK:  Okay, and my oldest daughter’s name is Julia. (Pause)

ELIAS:  Essence name, Moorah; M-O-O-R-A-H. (moor’ah)  Essence family, Sumafi; alignment, Milumet; orientation, common.

FRANK:  Okay, and then lastly, my daughter Victoria. (Pause)

ELIAS:  Essence name, Lizella; L-I-Z-E-L-L-A. (lee-zel’ah)  Essence family, Sumari; alignment, Zuli; orientation, common.

FRANK:  Thank you.

Next, I’d like to ask you about a dream that I had about a month ago.  The first part of it I don’t remember, but the part I do remember is, I was brought into a room and told — or else I knew I would be told — that my real father, in my objective life, was not really my father.  Another person was in this room, and somehow I knew that he was going to be told the same thing, and I believe that maybe he was supposed to be a brother of mine, although I’m not sure.  He wasn’t someone I knew objectively.

Then I was given about ten slips of paper with the names and addresses of people on them.  I think they were supposed to be relatives that I didn’t know I had, but I felt very uncomfortable through all of this.

The next thing that happened is that a person came in who was the individual that they were going to tell me was my real father.  I recall that he seemed very uncomfortable, but didn’t say anything.  He had sort of sandy hair and a mustache, and was a little younger than I am right now.  There may have been more, but that’s all I remember.  I’m curious about this dream and what it represents.

ELIAS:  In this, you are presenting to yourself imagery in relation to perception and appearances, so to speak.

The communication that you are offering to yourself is the recognition that your objective perception may not necessarily be genuine, so to speak, in relation to other aspects of reality.  It is genuine and reality within the moment to you, but there may be elements of reality within the periphery that are not incorporated within your perception in particular moments.

Now; this moves in relation to your identification with absolutes.

In this, as you perceive that there are absolutes within your reality, you do create the illusion, so to speak, of the reality of absolutes.  But in actuality, there are no genuine absolutes within any reality in consciousness.

Therefore, you present to yourself a situation which appears to be solid and absolute in the question of birth information, which also moves in relation to your identification with physical genetics and associations with different individuals.

In this, you have created a perception of certain absolutes within your reality.  This dream imagery is expressing to you the lack of absolutes, and that this perception of definitions of absolutes is quite influenced by the belief systems that you hold within your focus.

This is not dream imagery that you are presenting to yourself in relation to actual physical individuals or relationships that you hold in this focus presently, but it is an expression of symbology, so to speak.

Your response in discomfort is the response that you may express in relation to any presentment of any subject matter that you perceive to be an expression of an absolute, and the discovery that it is not an absolute.  Are you understanding?

FRANK:  Yes.  Okay, a quick follow-up on that then.  If I have a dream like that, and objectively I have no clue what it means and what it represents, does it still affect me somehow objectively in this focus?

ELIAS:  I shall express to you, your dream imagery is a communication to self, and also, it is an interplay between your subjective and objective awarenesses.  What is occurring within dream action, so to speak, is the objective recognition and translation of subjective activity.

Now; it is translated into the language, so to speak, of the objective awareness.  Therefore, the actions may appear odd to your understanding at times, or unusual.

But I shall also express to you, the subjective and objective awarenesses move in harmony to each other.  Therefore, the activity that is occurring within this dream state is also occurring within your objective state.

In this, yes, it is affecting, for it is what you are creating in both states of awareness.

The dream state is a type of bridge, so to speak, for as you allow yourself to be creating memory of your dream activity, what you are in actuality creating is an objective translation of subjective activity.

Therefore, you are offering yourself an opportunity to view in other terms, so to speak, what you are engaging within your movement, both subjectively and objectively.

FRANK:  Okay, I understand.  It’s sort of a little memo to me.

ELIAS:  In a manner of speaking, yes.

FRANK:  It hears what’s going on. (Elias chuckles)  Okay, very interesting.  How many focuses have I had, or will I have?

ELIAS:  Within this physical dimension, 916.

FRANK:  Oh, sounds like a lot! (Elias chuckles)  Are there any that are particularly affecting of me right now?  I mean, I realize that they all affect each other, but are there any specific ones that are particularly influencing me right at this point? (Pause)

ELIAS:  I may express to you, if you are so choosing, you may be investigating of one focus within a time framework of 1400s, [in] what you identify as northern regions of Europe; a male individual.

In this, many of the choices and directions of attention that this individual experiences, you draw the energy of those expressions to yourself in reinforcement of what you create in this reality in this present focus, for there are many similarities in perception between yourself and that individual, and therefore, in the recognition of the similarities, you allow yourself to draw to yourself that energy more specifically.

You also participate within another focus — that if you are so choosing, you may be investigating of — which offers energy to this present focus that you allow to be received in similar manner; this being a female individual within a physical location [of] what you presently identify as northernmost area of Africa, that which would be identified as an Arab country; this being within a time framework of 4 B.C.  This individual presents herself with challenges, within self and in relation to other individuals, that also may be identified as similar to those that you create presently.

FRANK:  Okay, I have two questions.  Number one, how do I go about investigating these focuses, and number two, how do I benefit from doing that?

ELIAS:  First of all, you may be allowing yourself to view other focuses that you participate within through relaxation methods, so to speak.  You may also allow yourself to be interactive with other focuses through the action of projection or through dream interaction.

FRANK:  Which do you think would work best for me? (Pause)

ELIAS:  You may be allowing yourself more of an ease through dream interaction or through the action of meditation.  You may experience more of a challenge in your attempt presently to be projecting, and allowing yourself to be viewing other focuses in that manner.

FRANK:  I’m not sure I understand what you mean by projection.  Can you define that?

ELIAS:  Projection is the action of allowing aspects of your consciousness to be moving freely; not in association with your body consciousness.

Now; projection allows you the involvement, so to speak, of both objective and subjective awarenesses.

It is what many individuals within your physical focus presently identify as out-of-body experiences, although I may express to you that I identify a distinction between a projection of consciousness and what you may actually identify as an out-of-body experience.

For an element of your consciousness continues to be focused and interactive with the body consciousness within the action of projection.  In a manner of speaking figuratively, you divide your awareness and allow an element of your consciousness to be continuing in interaction with your body consciousness subjectively, but you also allow yourself an element of your consciousness, subjectively and objectively, to be moving freely through consciousness, moving through the barriers, so to speak, of time, space, and even at times dimensions.

An actual out-of-body experience is the removal of your subjective awareness and its interaction with the body consciousness.  Therefore, the body consciousness is, in a manner of speaking, left to be functioning temporarily without interactiveness or instruction from the subjective awareness.

In this, the action of an out-of-body experience may be engaged for much less time framework than a projection of consciousness, for there is, in effect, within your physical dimension, a necessity for instruction and interaction between the subjective awareness and the body consciousness to be continuing the functioning of the physical body.

Therefore, in projection, you allow yourself to move your consciousness, subjectively and objectively, in part, so to speak, away from your physical body consciousness, and without the encumbering of the physical matter of body expression, you may allow yourself more of a freedom of movement.

Now; let me express to you, this also is an influence of your belief systems, for in actuality, you may allow yourself this same type of movement WITH the incorporation of your physical body.  But as you do not believe that you may move through time or space arrangements dimensionally incorporating the physical body expression, you do not allow yourself the freedom of that type of movement.

Whereas you DO allow yourself this type of movement in the design of what you create as what may be identified as an “astral body.”  This also is a creation that you have engaged as a means to be continuing with your identification of self as you move through consciousness.

Are you understanding?

FRANK:  Yes.

ELIAS:  In this, you may incorporate presently slightly more of a challenge in engaging that type of activity than you shall in engaging a meditation or your dream state to be investigating of other focuses.

As you engage a meditation, allow yourself a relaxation process, so to speak, but also offer yourself a directedness in that relaxation.  In a manner of speaking, offer yourself the direction through a suggestion, but do not push with your energy, for as you force your energy, you also create an obstacle.  Therefore, in offering yourself a direction through a suggestion, you may direct your energy more efficiently to be accessing certain focuses that you wish to be investigating of.

Within your dream state, you may incorporate either a suggestion prior to your entering of sleep state, or you may be accessing your dream trigger within your dream state as a portal, and once you have accessed your portal, you may direct your attention specifically to another focus of your essence.  Or, you may also be engaging the expression within dream state of the Gates of Horn, so to speak, which also may activate a type of portal, so to speak, within consciousness, and allow you an ease in movement into the accessing of another focus.

FRANK:  What is the Gates of Horn?

ELIAS:  This is an expression which may be incorporated within consciousness.  It is a type of trigger, so to speak.

In creating this expression within dream state, and also even at times prior to your sleep state, what you are activating, so to speak, is not necessarily an actual place, but a call, so to speak, to essence within consciousness.

It is a call to yourself, figuratively speaking, which creates a type of trigger that allows you to be moving spontaneously into other areas of consciousness, and specifically directing your movement into your objective, in a manner of speaking.  This creates — once again, figuratively speaking — a type of direct pathway to other areas of consciousness that you wish to be accessing, through your energy of essence.

FRANK:  Can I do this by suggestion, or how do I do this?

ELIAS:  You may allow yourself to be offering the suggestion merely [by] expressing these words, so to speak, before entering your sleep state, or you may be expressing these words within your dream state.

FRANK:  Saying the words is a suggestion that I want to access this?

ELIAS:  Correct.  Within your dream state, or even within your waking state prior to your engagement of sleep state, you may merely express the words of “the gates of horn,” and this automatically creates the suggestion and creates a trigger, so to speak.

FRANK:  Okay, I will try it.  Coming back to my earlier question, exactly how does it benefit me in this focus to investigate other focuses?

ELIAS:  The benefit of accessing activity and movement of other focuses is that you allow yourself in this focus to be familiarizing yourself with self in more of an expansive expression than merely this one physical focus of attention.

Now; this may be beneficial to you in several manners.  It allows you more of a reality of viewing that you yourself are indeed much more expansive than merely this manifestation of this one focus of attention.  It also may be beneficial to you as you allow yourself to access the choices and the perceptions of other focuses in relation to what you are creating in this focus.

Now; you are correct — all of your focuses are influencing of each other.  In this, as you allow yourself to view the movement of other focuses, you may offer yourself more clarity in an understanding of what you are creating within this focus ... NOT that another focus is creating your reality, for they are not!  But many times within physical expression, you may allow yourself more of an ease in clarity in viewing another individual and their behaviors and their choices and their expressions, and more of an understanding of these actions, than you shall automatically offer to yourself.

Therefore, as you allow yourself to view the choices and the expressions and the behaviors of another focus, and identify that as another individual, you may allow yourself a clarity in identification of the influences of the beliefs upon the perception of that individual, and as you access that information, you may also turn your attention to self and view the similarities, and in viewing the similarities, you offer yourself more clarity in familiarizing yourself with you and what you are creating in THIS focus.

There are also benefits in allowing yourself information concerning some expressions that you create within this focus that may appear to you to be irrational.  You may create some expressions within this reality presently that you identify as holding no visible, rational reason, so to speak, for their creation within your reality, but you may be allowing energy from another focus and not creating a reconstruction of the energy of that focus as you translate it into this focus.

Therefore, you may create certain responses or certain actions in this focus that appear to you to be confusing and unexplainable.  In allowing yourself to view other focuses, you may offer yourself those explanations, and also allow yourself to reconfigure the energy expression, and therefore not create that type of affectingness.

Now; I may also express to you, as you DO manifest in groups, you interact, for the most part, with the same essences in many focuses.  Therefore, in viewing other focuses that you hold, you also may offer yourself information concerning other individuals that you interact with presently.

FRANK:  Okay, like my family members?

ELIAS:  Correct, and this may offer you more of an objective understanding in relation to your interaction with these individuals.

In this time framework now, all of these actions are beneficial, as you are participating in and moving within the action of this shift, widening your awareness and moving into the expression of acceptance.  Therefore, as you allow yourselves more information objectively, you also create more of an ease and less conflict in your movement into the expression of acceptance.

FRANK:  Well, let me ask you this ... and perhaps you want me to determine this in my own investigation! (Elias laughs)  But of the two focuses that you mentioned — the one in northern Europe and the one in northern Africa — are current members of my family involved in those also?

ELIAS:  Yes, within both of these focuses.

FRANK:  All of them?  Some of them?

ELIAS:  Within what you term to be your immediate family, all of the family members participate in these two focuses.

FRANK:  Are we together in many focuses?  Is that why these focuses are so affecting of me now?

ELIAS:  You do participate in what I may term to be several focuses together, although the relationships that you engage in other focuses, in relation to some of these family members, are dissimilar to the relationships that you create presently.

In these two focuses, the individuals participate with you in continuous interaction.  They may not be expressing the same roles, but their interaction with you and their relationships with you are created in similar intensities and similar types of expressions.  This be the reason that I have offered these two particular focuses for your investigation.

FRANK:  Okay.  Let me ask you about Lizella then, who I sometimes experience conflict with.  Can you shed any light on that, relative to now or the other focuses, or just in any way?

ELIAS:  Express to me, what is the nature of your concern in the expression of conflict?

FRANK:  Difficulty in communication, I guess I would say. (Pause)

ELIAS:  I may express to you, within the focus that you participate within together in northern Europe, you do experience similar types of interactions.  The roles may be expressed differently, but the interaction is quite similar.  In this, you are continuing a similar type of expression in relation to roles, and the belief systems that you hold individually as to your identifications of those roles.

Now; in this, in the present focus, this other individual expresses more of a forcefulness in energy presently in her interaction with you, as she also is identifying within self more of her own directedness within her focus.

The conflict may be identified more clearly within you as you allow yourself to be recognizing and noticing the influence of your beliefs in relation to your role with this individual, and how you express that in some aspects of dictating. (Smiling slyly)

FRANK:  So in other words, what you’re saying is, as I come to understand myself more and get a better handle on how I express authority, that I’ll understand things better?

ELIAS:  Yes.  Look to self and examine your expressions, and this may be much more affecting than looking to the other individual, or the actions themselves which occur between yourself and the other individual.

Look to self and allow yourself to be identifying what you create in behaviors and expressions in relation to the role that you hold, and how you express that role as influenced by your beliefs.

FRANK:  Okay.  Let me shift gears a little bit here.

ELIAS:  Very well!

FRANK:  I have noticed lately, but I think this has been part of me all my life, more of an inability to focus on things; not focus in the sense of an essence focus, but attention to certain things.  Is there some reason for that?  Is my consciousness more attentive in some other dimension right now, or what exactly is going on there?

ELIAS:  Yes, there is a reason, so to speak, for this action, and I shall be expressing to you, in acknowledgment, that this is an action that is occurring within you quite in relation to your movement within this shift in consciousness.

Now; it is an expression of allowing yourself to be widening your awareness.  This is a temporary expression.  Within this time framework, you are allowing yourself to be affecting of your perception and engaging your periphery.

Therefore, figuratively speaking, your reality is temporarily becoming slightly blurred, for your attention is not quite as streamlined or focused — as you have stated — as you have created it to be previously, for you are allowing an expansion of your objective awareness and incorporating more of your periphery.

FRANK:  Okay, but you say this is temporary.

ELIAS:  Yes, as what you term to be a physical affectingness.

FRANK:  Okay.  Well, that’s good to know! (They both laugh)

The last two things I have for you are, I have a question regarding my current employment situation, and what the current probabilities are for that; the direction I’m heading. (Pause, during which Elias is grinning)

ELIAS:  Ah!  A crystal ball question! (Chuckling)

FRANK:  I know you don’t like to answer those! (Laughing)

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha!  I shall participate in the game, and I shall bat the ball back to you — ha ha ha ha! — and express the question to you, what is your impression of your current probabilities and your movement in your direction presently? (Grinning)

FRANK:  I think probably pretty good, in the sense of good, in the sense of attaining the goal I’m seeking.  But I guess I’m wary about that assessment because I’ve felt that way in the past, and I’ve been inaccurate.

ELIAS:  Ah!  Now; let me express to you an acknowledgment and also an encouragement.  Be remembering of discussions that have been offered previously in the expression of, you create the future in the now.

Therefore, acknowledge yourself and allow yourself the steadfastness of trust in the now of what you are creating, and you shall continue in what you assess to be the future.  I am acknowledging of you in your impression as to the present now.

In this, you hold the choice to continue in that creation of what you term to be success, as you continue to acknowledge yourself and trust — without doubtfulness! — that you are creating that reality in each moment.

FRANK:  Okay.  I want to know if I’m making strides in that direction of trusting myself.

ELIAS:  And I am acknowledging of you, my friend, for you ARE allowing yourself to be noticing, and you are allowing yourself to be acknowledging of yourself, which is an expression of your trust in self.

FRANK:  But then again, my inability to focus makes me wonder sometimes! (Laughing)

ELIAS:  Ah, no!  Let me express to you that this also is a validation, for your seeming inability to focus, so to speak, as I have stated, is the “actioning” of opening to your periphery.

Now; in NOT trusting of yourself, you also would not be allowing yourself the opening to your periphery.  Therefore, you ARE offering yourself objective evidence of your movement, and acknowledging to yourself.

FRANK:  Okay.  Well, that’s good!  I like that! (Laughing, and Elias chuckles)  And my last question is, do I have other focuses that are going on in what I term to be right now, in this physical time frame?

ELIAS:  Yes.  Within this present now, you engage six other focuses besides yourself in manifestation of your essence.

FRANK:  Do I know any of these people?

ELIAS:  No ... objectively speaking, ha ha!

FRANK:  Is that normal, for someone to not know their other focuses?

ELIAS:  Quite.  This is quite common.  I shall express to you, it is quite uncommon that individuals may interact with or meet objectively other focuses of their essence within the same time framework.

FRANK:  Is there a reason for that?

ELIAS:  This is the expression of diversification of experience within any particular time framework.  It allows essence to be focusing attention in several different directions and experiences simultaneously within your physical dimension, and also continues the expression of the purity of the experiences, and allows for a lack of interruption of the different expressions of attention.

FRANK:  Okay, and the fact that they’re occurring in the same time frame doesn’t mean that they have any particular, greater influence on each other.

ELIAS:  (Firmly)  No.

FRANK:  Okay.  Well, this has been most interesting, and I’ve really enjoyed it!

ELIAS:  (Chuckling)  I continue to express encouragement to you, my friend, and an acknowledgment in your movement within your desire to be familiarizing yourself with self and continuing in your movement within this shift.  I express to you great affection, my friend!

FRANK:  And to you also!

ELIAS:  I anticipate our next meeting.  You may offer my greetings also to your small ones and your partner, if you are so choosing. (Chuckling)

FRANK:  I’m working on that!

ELIAS:  HA HA!

FRANK:  (Laughing)  I am working on that.  I think that would be a great thing, but I’m not sure they’re quite ready, or maybe I’m not quite ready to explain it to them!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha!  Very well!

FRANK:  You know, not everyone wants to talk to a dead guy!

ELIAS:  I cannot imagine WHY they shall not!  HA HA HA!  This is the presentment of a wondrous experience, do you not agree?

FRANK:  Oh, I agree, most certainly!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha ha!  And an opportunity to be creating an objective friendship with the invisible ghost!  Ha ha ha ha ha ha! (Frank is cracking up)

Very well, my friend.  I express to you in tremendous lovingness this day, au revoir!

FRANK:  Thank you.  Bye-bye.

Elias departs at 12:32 p.m.

Vic’s note:  Margot typed this transcript, and used the name “John” instead of Frank a few times.  I note this because she has done this before in other scripts, and it usually comes up again in some way!

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