Thursday, August 3, 2000-1
© 2001 (Private/Phone)
Participants:  Mary (Michael) and a new participant, Debi (Oona).
Elias arrives at 12:36 p.m. (Arrival time is 25 seconds)

ELIAS:  Good morning!

DEBI:  Good morning!  Hi, Elias!  It’s a real pleasure to finally meet you! (Laughing, and Elias chuckles)

I guess the first thing I want to ask you is, I say “finally meet you,” but do we know each other?

ELIAS:  Of course we are known to each other! (Chuckling)

DEBI:  (Laughing)  I don’t know — that question kinda popped into my head last night as I was going over things I wanted to ask you about; you know, in the respect of, are we like old friends?

ELIAS:  I may express to you that we have participated in physical focuses together.

DEBI:  Okay.  Is there any information you can give me about that, or is that something I should just figure out myself?

ELIAS:  (Laughing)  I may challenge you to offer to yourself your impressions in investigation of this, and I shall be futurely acknowledging of you and offering validation to your impressions.  Shall we enter a deal, so to speak?  Ha ha ha!

DEBI:  Sounds great!  I love this — a challenge!  I love challenges! (Laughing)  Alright, we’ll do it!

Can I ask a question about an impression I had?  I’ve been doing a series of color meditations, and I had a really different kind of experience with the color blue, oddly enough, following an evening when I was talking about something, referring to buzzies around my ankle.  Was that you during my meditation?

ELIAS:  Yes.

DEBI:  It was?! (Laughing, and Elias chuckles)

ELIAS:  And you have noticed my energy in introduction to you!

DEBI:  That was really, really neat!  It was so different than anything I’d experienced, and I thought that it was probably you, because it WAS so different.  Good!  So now I have a FEEL for what you feel like.

ELIAS:  Yes!

DEBI:  Okay.  Could I ask you about my particular information — my essence name, family, alignment, orientation, all that good stuff?

ELIAS:  Very well.  Essence name, Oona; O-O-N-A. (oo’nah)  Essence family, Vold; alignment in this focus, Milumet; orientation, common.

DEBI:  You know, I’m also curious about ... would I be a continuing focus in this focus? (Pause)

ELIAS:  Not presently, although I may express to you, this is what you may term to be an option of choice.

DEBI:  Okay.  This information has me really thinking! (Laughing)

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha!  And partially, this would be the point! (Chuckling)

DEBI:  (Laughing)  Yeah!  You know, with that in mind, would it be fair to say, with the Vold family, that I would be an emotionally focused individual?

ELIAS:  Not necessarily, but I may express to you that you ARE emotionally focused.  Do not associate this essence family with the automatic expression of emotional focus.

Many individuals do choose to be creating an emotional focus in their manifestation physically, to be incorporating an enhancement of the experience of one of the base elements of the design of this particular physical reality, but any of these types of expressions are not necessarily associated in kind, so to speak, with any particular essence family.

DEBI:  I think I understand.  Well, this is really interesting, because I think that the alignment gives me a lot of insight into another question I was going to ask you, which is coming up.

Could I also get the basic information on my two children — Lindsey and Evelyn — name, family, alignment?

ELIAS:  Very well. (Pause)  First individual, essence name, Diette; D-I-E-T-T-E. (dee-ette’)  Essence family, Tumold; alignment, Ilda; orientation, common.

Second individual: (18-second pause) Rili; R-I-L-I. (ree’lee, sounds like really!) (Pause, grinning)  This is quite a playful essence!

DEBI:  Oh my goodness!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha!

DEBI:  (Laughing)  We need to discuss this one!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha!  Essence family, Zuli; alignment, Sumari; orientation, common.

DEBI:  Wow!  This is fascinating!  That just really cracks me up, what you said about Rili, because she truly is something!  One of the questions I had for you was, I’m kind of curious what it is with this child that absolutely ... she and I just bump heads, so to speak, and I was wondering, is it ... well, what I had wondered was, is she just mirroring something in me, or is this child just purely ... I don’t know!  What is it?  Can you help me? (Laughing)

ELIAS:  (Chuckling)  There are many expressions that are being incorporated in the interaction between the two of you in this particular focus.

Now; let me express to you that you have created the agreement to be facilitating the entry physically for this manifestation of this particular essence.  This other essence IS quite playful, and has chosen quite specifically — as do all essences — to be manifest in the expression of family member with you quite purposefully, in alignment with the expression of this essence.

This particular focus of that essence has manifest with an intent of expression — in playfulness — of challenging other individuals in the expressions of their belief systems ... which may not necessarily be viewed as obviously as they may assume! (Chuckling)

DEBI:  Oh my goodness!

ELIAS:  Therefore, in this, it is not quite a mirror action that this individual presents to you, but more of an expression of challenge, through her choices of behaviors and expressions within her focus in presentment to you, that may allow you the opportunity to be noticing and recognizing your beliefs that you are allowing to be influencing of your perception within many, many, many situations.

DEBI:  Thanks.  Makes sense!  Would this particularly relate to my parenting beliefs?

ELIAS:  Yes. (Chuckling)

DEBI:  Okay, because I’m ready to let her take over!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha!

DEBI:  (Laughing)  Oh my goodness!  This makes a lot of sense.

ELIAS:  Be remembering also, there is an underlying quality expressed within this individual, as an element of the essence family that she is belonging to, which is continuously influencing in her expressions; that is, an appreciation of physical design, physical exhibition and manifestation.  Therefore, there is a strength which is incorporated in her ability to be challenging of other individuals, in the appreciation of her own creation of self.

DEBI:  This makes great sense.  I really appreciate that.  I’m going to re-evaluate my whole role here! (Laughing, and Elias chuckles)

Okay.  Well, I guess maybe we could move onto something else.

ELIAS:  Very well.

DEBI:  Of course, I have a list of questions for you, but I think I’ll just pick a couple that are more heavily on my mind lately.

I have recently, the last few months, undergone a tremendous amount of confusion and discontent, basically with my direction.  I’ve been going to school for a couple of years, I’m doing work in the computer industry and all that stuff, but suddenly, it’s as if I want nothing to do with all that.  I don’t want to be where I live, I don’t want to work in that field, and I’m not quite sure what’s going on.

I also seem to have ... I don’t know how to describe it, other than I just don’t seem to be able to create abundant finances, no matter how smart I am, no matter how much training I have, or that’s the feeling I always have, that I’m not capable enough, I’m not committed enough, and the commitment ... you know, just like I said — all of a sudden, I’ve been doing something for a couple of years, and now I don’t want to go that way any more.

What you told me about alignment with Milumet ... I’ve been wondering lately, why do I have this huge pull away from all of that and toward things like trees and plants?  It’s just a whole different direction!  I’m walking past trees and I’m talking to them, you know?  I’ve never done that before! (Laughing, and Elias chuckles)

I just feel like I’m being drawn into an area, and I have no idea what I’m gonna do with it.  I don’t know — am I making any sense?

ELIAS:  Quite!

DEBI:  Oh, okay. (Elias chuckles)  Can you give me a little bit of insight as to what’s going on with me?

ELIAS:  You are moving into the expression of self discovery.  You are allowing yourself an opening of your awareness to the exploration of YOU, and in this, allowing yourself to begin moving away from the automatic expressions of expectations that you assume through the expressions of mass belief systems and your societies, or expectations that you place upon yourself in relation to your identification of right and good and responsible, and you are allowing yourself to open the door ever so slightly and peer into a new area within self, allowing yourself to begin a movement in the direction of familiarizing yourself with YOU.

This is an expression that you have not allowed yourself for most of your focus in this manifestation.  You have explored many types of activities and many types of creations in different types of expressions.  You have explored the vastness of duplicity quite well!  Ha ha ha ha ha!

DEBI:  (Laughing)  You can say that again!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha!  In at least the expression of the negative aspects of duplicity! (Laughing)

DEBI:  Oh my gosh!  Isn’t that the truth!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha!

DEBI:  So with that in mind, would it be safe to say that I’m fairly well done with that?

ELIAS:  Not necessarily! (Grinning)

DEBI:  Ah! (Laughing)

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha ha!  But you HAVE offered yourself the opportunity to familiarize yourself with this particular belief system, and therefore have offered yourself more of an ease in your ability to be identifying of it as it may arise, so to speak.

In this, you have allowed yourself to be exploring many experiences in relation to different expressions of belief systems, but you have not allowed yourself to turn your attention to the exploration and familiarization of YOU, and therefore have not offered yourself the genuine identification of your natural flow of energy or your ability to be directing of your focus yourself, and incorporating your own expression of fun and creativity and your abilities within this focus.

In this, you have continued to be expressing yourself — in all of your explorations of outside elements or creations throughout your focus — with the underlying direction, so to speak, of your essence family and your alignment, but you have not offered yourself an objective recognition of how that interplays with you as you, and your energy and your natural movement.

Therefore, in a manner of speaking, you have offered yourself an expression of exploring beliefs, and you have also offered yourself a familiarization with expressions and creations outside of yourself, in a manner of speaking.

Now you are opening the door to be turning your perception, and allowing yourself to become familiar with YOU.  This offers you a movement into a tremendous new expression of freedom!

DEBI:  Yes!  That’s what I want to hear!

ELIAS:  Now; let me express to you, you have identified a specific area of concern in financial expression, or what you assess to be an inability to be creating the type of financial expression that you wish to be creating.

Let me also express to you that this is quite understandable, as you DO hold your attention outside of self, and in that, you are allowing a tremendous influence of your beliefs, in association with your perception, with concern to self and how you assess yourself.

In this, as you continue to be directing your attention in that manner, you also create obstacles in your allowance for your ability to be creating this type of expression in financial materialization, so to speak.

DEBI:  So basically ... I just want to see if I’m understanding this correctly.  In moving towards this new expression, I get the feeling that what you’re saying is, everything is gonna come together as it should anyway. (Elias grins and starts to respond, but Deb deflects)  How was I gonna put that?  I guess what I’m trying to say is, this will basically kinda take care of itself if I just tune into myself.

ELIAS:  Ah, and THIS is the movement of recognition!  Yes.

DEBI:  Ah, okay.

ELIAS:  The financial expression is not to be acquired, for there is no element within your reality that needs be acquired.  You already possess all that may be expressed within your physical reality.  It is not a question of acquisition.  It is a question of creating, and being in the creation.

DEBI:  Okay, alright.  This is a lot to think about. (Elias chuckles)  But it just moves through me as tremendously good news!  Do you know what I mean?  I don’t know how to describe it.

ELIAS:  I am understanding.

Let me express to you, as you allow yourself to relax your energy and not be concentrating your attention upon the acquisition of this physical matter, and allow yourself to turn your attention in familiarizing yourself with you, and recognizing that the physical manifestation of money is a creation of yours and is you also ... you are the creator AND the creation.  Therefore, the actual physical manifestation of this physical matter, of what you identify as money, is an expression of YOU.  It IS you.

DEBI:  So basically, when I’m in line with myself ... and I don’t know, feeling abundant within, it’s just going to happen.  That’s basically what you’re saying?

ELIAS:  Yes.  You create outwardly, objectively, in reflection, so to speak, of what you are creating inwardly.

(Intently)  You create what you concentrate upon.

I am not speaking to you of thought.  I am speaking to you of the concentration of your attention in energy, and your concentration moves in direct alignment with your belief systems.  Your belief systems are directly influencing of your perception.  Your perception is the instrument which you incorporate in this physical reality to be creating your reality.  Therefore, as you concentrate your energy in your beliefs, you create the manifestation of those beliefs.

Do not confuse yourself with thoughts, for your thoughts are not necessarily an accurate reflection of your beliefs.

DEBI:  Okay.  That’s something I need to take a more serious look at, because I think I have done that.

ELIAS:  You may intellectually manipulate your thought process in contrary expression to the beliefs that you actually hold inwardly.

In this, you are not creating an acceptance or a dispelling of your beliefs merely that you incorporate a contrary thought process to your beliefs.  You may express to yourself that you do not align with a particular belief or aspect of a belief, and I may express to you that your thoughts are not the indicator.  Your beliefs manifest in what you create and within your behaviors, and these ARE indicators.

DEBI:  Okay.  I think I’m following now.

ELIAS:  Your automatic responses are also an objective indicator of the influence of your beliefs, and how they are influencing of your perception.

DEBI:  Okay.  Thank you very much for that.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome.

DEBI:  Like I said, that’s a lot to think about, and of course I’m gonna have to go over it, but it makes great sense.

I guess in line with the current movement of opening my door, or however you referred to it, is that why I’m experiencing the dream trauma lately?  Also, I want to ask you about the pressure I get in my head and my ears, the cracking and popping kind of stuff, which incidentally happens a lot when I meditate on orange.  But you know, the headaches, seeing auras, the vibrating head, is that all related to the same thing?

ELIAS:  Yes.  The physical aspects of your experience are the manifestations of opening of neurological pathways, which is an actual physical incorporation of action which occurs within your actual physical brain.

DEBI:  So all those brain cells I killed off might come back?

Note:  Bobbi and Vic are REALLY rolling on the floor laughing!

ELIAS:  HA HA HA HA HA!

DEBI:  (Laughing)  Or maybe I won’t need them after all!

ELIAS:  Ah, and this may be more to the point!  Ha ha ha ha ha!

DEBI:  (Laughing)  That’s really good news — really good news!

But the dream trauma and all that, and oh my gosh, sleeping with the lights on!  I guess what I wanted to ask you about that particularly is, I think I’ve been working out a lot of fear.  I believe that was fear, and I believe I have been addressing to that.

ELIAS:  Yes, you are correct.

DEBI:  Okay.  So the dream with the floor and just all of that, it kind of seemed to go together with information in another transcript I was reading where you talked about losing your floor and that kind of thing, and it all made great sense.  So, I kind of just wanted to verify that with you.  It does feel as if I am addressing to it, and that’s good.

ELIAS:  And allowing yourself to recognize elements of your expressions of fear, and in this, allowing yourself more efficiently to be addressing to this fear.

Now; let me also express to you that the opening of self exploration within many individuals, yourself also, creates many times another automatic association in fear, for it is unfamiliar, and in this unfamiliarity, you also incorporate an uncertainty in how to be maneuvering and manipulating your energy.

Therefore, as you move into more of an expression of assuming your own direction for self, rather than the alliance of yourself to mass belief systems and societal expressions and the reliance upon outside expressions to be dictating your direction to you, it is a movement into trust of self, and this is quite unfamiliar in many of its expressions.

DEBI:  It definitely is!

ELIAS:  You are allowing yourself to be creating this movement into addressing to the elements of fear through this dream interaction and imagery, which I may express to you, as I have expressed previously to other individuals, many times this may be quite beneficial, for it offers you an opportunity to be viewing and participating within and addressing to certain expressions within what you identify as the safety of self, rather than the objective waking experiences that you associate with less of an expression of safety.

DEBI:  Okay, I think I’m following....

ELIAS:  At times, it may be less fearful for you to be engaging an expression of fear within dream imagery, holding the knowing underlyingly that you are merely interacting with self, and therefore you incorporate an element of safety.

Whereas within waking state, you may objectively create expressions of fear, and it may be more difficult for you, within your focus, to be addressing to those expressions of fear, for they are essentially triggering of many other associations within self in familiarity of the aspects of duplicity ... which you are quite familiar with! (Chuckling)

DEBI:  I sure am!

ELIAS:  This....

DEBI:  But I didn’t know that, because it took me a long time to understand what duplicity meant! (Elias chuckles)  Isn’t that funny?  Okay, that definitely answers my question.  I really appreciate that.

You know, I want to talk to you about ... I’m not quite sure how to break this down, but it all kind of ties together with some drawings that I’ve done, and the color meditations.  I’ve had this fascination recently with color, and I’ve been doing these color meditations, and then all of a sudden, these drawings that I started doing years ago, I started doing them again.

The biggest question I have is, I’m not real positive what they represent.  I have some ideas, but some of the imagery I’ve gotten during these meditations ... it seems as if I’m getting some insight into this, but I’m not sure if it relates or not.  And also, there’s the possibility that I have a tile or two, so I wanted to discuss all of that a little bit with you.

ELIAS:  Very well.

In this, I may express to you, your identification with exploration of color is movement in the explorations of different aspects of tones, and also the different types of movements of energy associated with your energy centers.

Individuals within physical focus lean in the association of these energy centers as being expressions of merely physical manipulation of physical energy associated with the physical body.

I shall express to you that the movement of these energy centers incorporates much more than merely the maintenance of your physical body consciousness.

These energy centers are an expression of you in this focus, in all that you are.  They are mirrored through the expression of your body consciousness, but their function is not merely the maintaining of or the generating of the physical body.

Now; you have also engaged activity in expressing drawings, so to speak, in relation to tones and information that you are offering yourself of color, and in this, in association with the expression or qualities of Milumet, what you are moving into is an allowance of yourself to be exploring the physical associations of what you term to be personal mandalas. (Pause)

You have not....

DEBI:  Could you explain that?

ELIAS:  These are life wheels, or have been associated with what may be termed as life wheels.  They are the physical representation of the energy movement of the energy signature, so to speak, of each individual.

Now; these have been incorporated in part into your belief system of psychology, although they are also misrepresented in the information that may be accessed in relation to your science of psychology.  They are also distorted in information associated with religious belief systems.

But you may allow yourself the recognition within your meditations that throughout the incorporation of your linear time framework associated with this physical dimension, individuals have allowed themselves to be recognizing this symbol — this wheel, so to speak — in many, many, many different types of forms, but with the basic incorporation of this sphere, this wheel.

In this, the incorporation of color has been expressed consistently, for this is a natural association with this wheel.

The symbology of the wheel itself is the expression of knowing, which is being allowed to be incorporated into the objective awareness, of the movement of energy as associated with the individual in physical manifestation, and the incorporation of their relationship to truth.

DEBI:  Okay.  So basically, that has nothing to do with a lot of the other things I was thinking about.  It’s about truth.  The different drawings I do then, is it ... I guess the only question I really have about that is, are these all representative of the same thing, or is each one basically an entirely different aspect?  Do you understand what I’m saying or what I’m asking?

ELIAS:  Yes.  They are individual aspects of the wheel.

Therefore, in expansion of your awareness of the symbology of the wheel, were you to be incorporating an actual physical drawing of your individual wheel, you may be incorporating all of these designs of drawings that you have been creating into different aspects of this one wheel.

DEBI:  Okay, now I understand. (Elias chuckles)  Thank you so much for that, because I’ve really been just rattling around in my head about this, and I’m just so happy to know what that is!

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome!

DEBI:  We’re close to running out of time, and I just have a couple of other things.  Mainly I have some game impressions, and I have a couple of impressions that I think are focuses of mine, and I wonder if I can just basically run them by you, and you can tell me if I’m on the right track or not.

ELIAS:  You may.

DEBI:  Okay.  The first one is actually a name that came to me, Rita Riser. (Pause)

ELIAS:  Yes, you are correct, as another focus of yourself.

DEBI:  And the name Janet? (Pause)

ELIAS:  Yes, you are also correct.

DEBI:  Then I have — this was during a meditation — a primitive male.  I’m not sure where or when, but I got a face. (Pause)

ELIAS:  Correct, and you may be continuing in your investigation of this individual and offering yourself more information, if you are so choosing.

DEBI:  Definitely, and in fact, that was another question I was going to ask you — which ones I would have better access to.

Alright, how about a Native American focus? (Pause)

ELIAS:  Yes, you are correct, within physical location of northeastern region.

DEBI:  Do you have a time frame on that? (Pause)

ELIAS:  Time framework, early 1700s.

DEBI:  Okay, that’s what I thought.  What about 11th or maybe 12th century, in either Scotland or Ireland? (Pause)

ELIAS:  Correct, although alter your physical location to what you presently identify as Wales.

DEBI:  Wales, okay.  I’m wondering, in that one, do I have any association with or do I play a harp? (Pause)

ELIAS:  (Laughing)  In a manner of speaking, yes, although with great difficulty and struggling!  HA HA HA!

DEBI:  Okay.  In other words, I’m lousy at it, but I try, huh? (Elias cracks up)  Okay, because I do love the harp, and I’ve wondered where that came from.

Vic’s note:  This cracks me up, thinking about Elias accessing other people’s focuses, and seeing stuff that cracks him up!

DEBI:  What about the American revolution, or was that related to the Native American? (Pause)

ELIAS:  You also do incorporate a focus within that time framework, and in the expression of a soldier.

DEBI:  Okay.  Was I British? (Pause)

ELIAS:  No.

DEBI:  Okay, good.  I was hoping not, for some reason, maybe because I’m not!

Okay, the Civil War, or something about a plantation. (Pause)

ELIAS:  Brief focus in physical manifestation, in the identification of that war; participation as an individual that has disengaged as a small one.

DEBI:  Alright.  This is great!

The dream imagery I had from like this dream that has haunted me, that I had years ago in Ventura — I don’t know how to describe it, except that it was terrifying, and I felt like I was there.  I was running, I was hiding from someone.  I swear, I thought they were gonna burn me!  Do you know what that was about?

ELIAS:  Yes.

Now; I shall express to you an encouragement and a suggestion that you allow yourself to be exploring, even momentarily, that particular imagery, for this is another focus that you participate within, and you have drawn energy from that focus to this focus presently, to be reinforcing of certain expressions in discounting of yourself in this focus, and certain time frameworks within this focus in which you have moved in extreme expressions of a lack of acceptance.

DEBI:  Can you tell me what time period that was, and where?

ELIAS:  Yes.

This also is incorporated within your present country, so to speak, and is an expression of female individual, within northern eastern physical location of your present country, in association with your beliefs in earth magic, so to speak; time framework, not quite end of 17th century — three-quarters of the expression of that century in time framework.

DEBI:  Okay.  You know, we’re almost out of time.  Can I quickly ask you, do Ornah and I share a focus as a priest and a nun? (Pause)

ELIAS:  Yes.

DEBI:  And I’m the priest, right? (Pause)

ELIAS:  Yes, and you may be investigating of this also, in physical location of Belgium.

DEBI:  Okay, great.  Well, could I possibly just run down a few of my game impressions real quick before we go?

ELIAS:  You may.

DEBI:  Okay.  The first one I have is the rock group Santana, in the rock bands category, with the color red, Milumet.

ELIAS:  One point, and that shall be the expression of your game entry within this participation this day! (Chuckling)  And you may express to Lawrence and Michael and Shynla your disappointment with their ruling that one game entry shall be offered per session!  HA HA HA HA!

Vic’s note:  Gee, Elias, you sure are selective as to when you choose to apply this “ruling.”  HA HA HA HA!

DEBI:  Oh, really?  Well, then it’s a good thing I picked the right one to share today, isn’t it? (Elias chuckles)  Okay.  Well, then on that note, can I ask one last question — actually two — for my friend Conner?

ELIAS:  You may.

DEBI:  He would like to know his orientation.

ELIAS:  Orientation, common.

DEBI:  Okay, and then also for him, a friend of his by the name of Veronique would like to know her essence name, family, alignment, and orientation. (Pause)

ELIAS:  Essence name, Phyete; P-H-Y-E-T-E. (fie-ette’)

DEBI:  P-H-Y-E-T?

ELIAS:  E.

DEBI:  And that’s Phyete?

ELIAS:  Correct.  Essence family, Sumari; alignment, Gramada; orientation, intermediate.

DEBI:  Thank you.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome.

DEBI:  Well, I see that we’re out of time.  From the bottom of my heart, I want to thank you for your help today.

ELIAS:  You are very welcome.  I anticipate our continued interaction, and I express to you much encouragement in your challenge in interaction with your small one!  Ha ha ha ha!

DEBI:  (Laughing)  Thank you!

ELIAS:  (Chuckling)  To you this day, in tremendous affection and anticipation of our next meeting, au revoir.

DEBI:  Au revoir.

Elias departs at 1:40 p.m.

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