Precognition/Probabilities
Topics:
“Precognition/Probabilities”
“Counterpart Action/Triggers”
“This Wondrous Sentimentality!”
Saturday, April 29, 2000
© 2000 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Rodney (Zacharie)
Elias arrives at 11:53 AM. (Arrival time is 19 seconds)
ELIAS: Good morning!
RODNEY: Good morning, Elias! (They both chuckle) I have
so much to talk about!
ELIAS: Very well. You may proceed!
RODNEY: I almost don’t know where to begin! (They both laugh)
I’ve spent the whole morning, almost, wondering what we are going to talk
about!
Every morning, I select a card from the Aleister Crowley tarot
deck, and I do so, and I feel that it’s my essence doing this, or me doing
it. I’m creating a symbol for an aspect of energy that if I focus
on that, it will help me enjoy the day, or at least benefit more.
It’s kind of like a little exercise to focus my attention one way or the
other, and sometimes I know or I have a feeling for what that card is going
to be, or the nature of the card, before I even pull it.
This morning I pulled the Eight of Cups, which is one of the most depressing
cards in the deck. In the parlance of this language, it stands for
the dark night of the soul, so to speak. It stands for depression,
suicide, self-pity. Before I pulled it, I recognized or I had the
sense or I had a premonition that I was pulling something difficult, and
yet I trusted myself to pull the card anyway. After reading what
the card was about, I have a sense that I AM depressed. I’m kind
of depressed around my work life. It doesn’t hold the draw or the
fascination for me. I would be well to be looking elsewhere for a
new set of goals, a new place to focus my attention.
Would you want to comment about my use of the cards this way, and the
significance of my pulling this card this morning?
ELIAS: I will express to you, Zacharie, each of you create your
own methods in which you shall present imagery to yourselves that you shall
allow yourselves to pay attention to.
In this, there are no mystical qualities that are inherent in these
cards themselves.
RODNEY: Yes, I understand.
ELIAS: But you have chosen to be creating this method of offering
imagery to yourself, and using these cards as a focal point, so to speak,
to allow yourself to be paying attention to yourself, your impressions,
and what you are creating, therefore offering a type of communication to
yourself that you allow yourself to trust.
RODNEY: Yes.
ELIAS: In this, it moves quite efficiently within your allowance
of your trust in self.
As to this particular time framework of this day and your viewing of
this particular card and your interpretation of this card, you are merely
offering yourself, once again, a translation of your impressions, which
you are allowing yourself to listen to.
In this, just as the deck of cards does not merely incorporate images
that are offered in an expression of positive, in your beliefs, neither
are the communications that you offer to yourself in your impressions.
What I am expressing to you is that you offer yourself the opportunity
to view your movement, regardless of your assessment that it be positive
or negative, good or bad.
RODNEY: That’s what I use the deck for, yes.
ELIAS: In this, as you offer yourself any element that you view
to be negative, you also offer yourself the opportunity to view more of
your choices.
You are less likely to be offering yourself a thought process in relation
to choices if you are presenting yourself with imagery and impressions
that are directed in what you view as a positive element. Why shall
you alter any expression that you view to be positive?
RODNEY: (Laughing) Right!
ELIAS: Therefore, you do not view the offering of positive as
an opportunity to be viewing choices, although it is, but this is not the
manner in which you view those particular types of communications.
Now....
RODNEY: Just me in particular?
ELIAS: You collectively, in all of you within this physical dimension.
RODNEY: Okay.
ELIAS: In this, as you present yourself with any impression or
imagery that is suggestive of negative, you shall allow yourself the opportunity
to view other avenues, more choices. Therefore, it becomes a positive.
RODNEY: Wow. So in other words, I find more significance
in the more difficult aspects, or what we would call negative symbols.
ELIAS: It is not that you find more significance, for you do allow
yourself acknowledgment in the positive. You do hold to that energy
throughout your day, in a manner of speaking. But as you present
yourself with the negative, you also present yourself with the opportunity
to view choices. This is not that you view this with more significance.
It is that you view it differently.
RODNEY: Okay. My choices ... let’s see. I’d like to
ask you to clarify that a little bit. When you say I’m more willing
to make choices, perhaps I’m being more aware of opportunities to make
choices throughout that particular day.
ELIAS: You are correct. Now....
RODNEY: Whereas, if I were to have pulled the King of Wands, which
is a beautiful card, I simply would have accepted that energy, and perhaps
not looked for the opportunity to make choices within that kind of energy,
to the same extent that I would with pulling the Eight of Cups today.
ELIAS: You are correct.
I shall express to you, in the context of this conversation, that we
may express to each other, hypothetically, you may view this type of imagery
in positive and negative from the standpoint of viewing opportunities and
choices in relation to this shift in consciousness, [in] that the manner
in which you identify positive and negative may be viewed in reverse.
For as you choose a card that you associate with positive, figuratively
speaking, it is actually negative, for it narrows your field of openness
to choices.
RODNEY: (Laughing) You’re right!
ELIAS: But the card that you choose that appears to be offering
you a message of negative is in actuality presenting you with the aspect
of positive, for it opens your field of awareness and opportunity of choice.
RODNEY: (Laughing) You’re right! You’re absolutely
right!
ELIAS: Ha ha!
RODNEY: That’s incredible! Okay, I think you’ve spoken to
that very nicely. Thank you. I am opening to making choices
surrounding what I’m going to be doing in the futures of my moments. (Laughing)
ELIAS: I am aware, and I shall interject in this moment that you
have allowed yourself to be opening to many different avenues of experiences
and interactions, and therefore opening the availability, so to speak,
of the field of your choices concerning opportunities in the subject matter
of employ.
In this, you already hold an awareness of your own impressions and the
communication that you have been offering to yourself in certain directions
which are incorporating an element of boredom now, and in that recognition,
you have already begun an expanding of your view to be offering yourself
other avenues.
RODNEY: Right, and it’s really not so much a question of money.
I have an opportunity, perhaps, to make a significant, shall we say, bonus
in the near future, and of course I’m going to pursue it, but by the same
token, Elias, you know, I feel it’s only money. I guess there’s an
old expression, “chop wood, carry water.” But there’s so much else
that I would rather be doing.
ELIAS: Ha ha! And I shall express to you ...
RODNEY: And that I would more enjoy doing.
ELIAS: ... you are correct. And your statement that this
financial gain is merely money, you are quite correct! It is merely
a physical object — paper!
RODNEY: (Laughing) Yeah! Absolutely right!
ELIAS: You may easily be creating of this particular product or
physical matter within your physical reality. The acquisition of
money is easily expressed within your physical dimension. It is the
obstacles that each of you present to yourselves, in the discounting of
yourselves and your own abilities, that creates the appearance — the illusion
— that it is difficult for you to be acquiring money.
RODNEY: Right, yes, and we have a lottery
here in New Jersey which is worth a hundred million dollars at the moment,
and I bought ten tickets yesterday for it!
ELIAS: HA HA HA HA!
RODNEY: And I am well aware that I have a belief that I’m actually
hoping I don’t win it, because a hundred million dollars would upset my
life so much that I’m not sure I could handle it!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha! And I shall offer to you a tidbit of information
concerning probabilities.
Look to this creation of your establishment of lottery, and this shall
provide you with an excellent example of the principle of probabilities.
The reason a psychic or any other individual does not hold the ability
to be predicting the outcome of the lottery is that the probability is
created within the moment, and therefore is not established until the moment
of its creation.
RODNEY: Really? (Laughing) Fascinating!
ELIAS: This shall offer you information as to the subject matter
of precognition, of which there is no precognition!
RODNEY: Okay. I gave up trying to precognize the numbers
many, many, many, many years ago!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
RODNEY: Now I let the machine pick ‘em! (They both laugh)
It’s an interesting engagement in my belief system to work on.
I’d like to change the subject a little.
ELIAS: You may.
RODNEY: There’s an individual called Mike,
whose essence name is Mikah, and you speak to him regularly, and I find
that his questions to you, and even more particularly, your answers to
him, are very, very significant to me.
For instance, you spoke to him about how to meditate, oh, maybe a year
ago, but I only read the session recently, and I realized that I have not
allowed myself to meditate. I’ve been forcing myself not to think
of anything! And in that discussion, your comments to him to allow
— there’s that acceptance again — to allow himself to perceive whatever
he perceives was very, very meaningful to me. So, I’ve been meditating
now for about — I don’t know — two or three weeks, and it has taken on
a new life for me, which is another topic.
But you’ve also spoken to Mike about some other issues which I have
found very significant to me, and I was just curious as to whether or not
there’s any special relationship between Mike and myself, or ... I know
there’s a special relationship between all of us who speak to you because
we’re all drawn to this material, but outside of that, is there any special
significance between Mike and I?
ELIAS: I shall express to you, I wish not to be incorporating
the terminology of “special significance,” but I shall offer to you that
you do engage counterpart action with this individual.
RODNEY: I do.
ELIAS: Yes.
RODNEY: Okay, with reference to this material? I understand
that counterpart action is a function created with someone else around
a particular intent. Is that correct?
ELIAS: Not necessarily....
RODNEY: Or an intent to experience something?
ELIAS: You ALL hold an intent to experience.
RODNEY: I mean this particular subject matter that we discuss
with you.
ELIAS: Not in its entirety. I shall offer to you, counterpart
action may be created in many forms. It may be limited to specific
types of experiences, or it may be much more expansive and it may encompass
many types of experiences.
Many counterpart actions involve a relationship of energy with respect
to experiences that move in certain directions, so to speak; which, these
may be in the direction of belief systems, they may be in specific manifestations,
they may be in issues, they may be in subject matter. It may be the
creation of a counterpart action which is incorporated throughout the entirety
of certain individuals’ focuses.
You may in actuality create a counterpart action with one individual,
and they may not necessarily hold counterpart action in reverse with you.
RODNEY: Okay. So, do I hold counterpart action with him,
or does he hold counterpart action with me?
ELIAS: Both.
RODNEY: Okay. In this instance, it works both ways.
ELIAS: Correct.
RODNEY: Is there any way that you could shed light on the direction
of this counterpart action?
ELIAS: The counterpart action that you engage with this individual,
or that both of you engage together, is an action that lends energy to
each of you in relation to the experiences that you offer to yourselves,
in allowing yourselves to turn your attention and alter your perceptions
in the incorporation of a trust of your individual abilities.
Each of you have created experiences within your individual focuses
in which you assume personal responsibility for other individuals.
You hold your attention outside of self and concentrate upon other individuals
or circumstances or situations which are occurring outside of you, and
in this, divert your attention from self.
Now; I shall express to you, Zacharie, that within a time framework
which we may identify as recent, relatively speaking, within a few years,
you have begun allowing yourself to turn your attention more and more to
self, and you have also addressed to certain expressions of personal responsibility
that you hold as directed to other individuals. You have also allowed
yourself to be addressing to elements of fear that you have held within
your focus, and in this action, you offer an expression of energy to Mikah
in his focus presently, to be offering himself the same type of action.
Now; he offers energy to you in this counterpart action. In the
experiences that he creates, the energy translates to you through the counterpart
action, and this allows you more of an ease in drawing to your objective
attention areas that you continue to hold within your focus that you wish
to address to concerning personal responsibility and fear.
You both create similar issues within your respective focuses.
In your experiences that you individually create in your focuses, you offer
counterpart action in energy to each other, that you may be efficiently
drawing to your attentions these issues and these behaviors, so to speak,
that you create in your respective focuses.
Now; in your choices and in your movement, you accept the energy which
is offered in this counterpart action, and you manipulate that energy to
allow you to view objectively areas in which you wish to address your attention
in relation to these particular issues, therefore allowing yourself to
move through these issues, which you are accomplishing.
Mikah draws from the counterpart action and creates experiences which
continue to gain his attention. He has not moved into the expression
of addressing to these issues yet, within your linear time framework, but
he does allow himself to be drawing upon this counterpart action, and therefore
create experiences that shall gain his attention, and therefore draw his
attention objectively to these issues.
RODNEY: Okay. Are you finished?
ELIAS: Yes, you may continue.
RODNEY: I’m fascinated. If I understand you correctly, this
counterpart action will continue of its own accord, whether Mike and I
ever exchange words with each other.
ELIAS: You are correct.
Now; I shall offer you another element of information concerning your
imagery of your card, and this also may be incorporated into the information
of counterpart action that you hold with this individual.
RODNEY: Okay.
ELIAS: You have drawn this particular card. You allow yourself
the communication of your impressions concerning yourself and your creations
and your movement individually in relation to the defined expression of
that particular card.
RODNEY: Right.
ELIAS: As it relates to the counterpart action, you may allow
yourself the recognition that Mikah also is experiencing in relation to
that identification of that particular card presently, but in a different
manner, for he engages questioning and an element of confusion concerning
death.
RODNEY: Death?
ELIAS: Correct.
RODNEY: Alright, ‘cause this card, as I selected it today, in
the best aspect of this card, it stands for resignation, renunciation,
and self-denial, but as I selected this card today, it stands for depression,
suicide, and self-pity.
ELIAS: Correct, which may be associated in your physical terms
with the experiences that Mikah incorporates inwardly within himself.
RODNEY: Really! Okay. Most interesting! I’m
not sure where to go from here with that with you!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha!
RODNEY: (Laughing) So, I’m going to leave it for a moment.
ELIAS: Very well.
RODNEY: But I thank you so much. I truly feel a deeper connection
with Mike, and we’ll see where we go from here.
I went from this card to a meditation this morning, and in the meditation,
I had an interesting experience that I want to share with you.
I was focusing on acceptance, although I try not to intellectualize
this. I try to sense the feeling of it, and as I was doing that,
I heard a bird cooing outside my window, and I’m very sensitive to bird
sounds. They always bring me a joyful message, and I thought of Rose
and the fleck of energy that exists with all these birds, as you have described
it.
And this got mixed up with ... I don’t know. Somehow I got the
idea that I was not alone, and that the other beings ... could it possibly
be that there are other essences who are aware of me, because I hold such
... I hold an idea of such incredible isolation that for me to become aware
that
there are other intelligent beings being aware of me is something I’m not
quite accustomed to yet, and all of a sudden, I just became aware of the
fact that there’s a lot of consciousness that is aware of me, and I just
began to cry.
ELIAS: You are quite correct.
RODNEY: And as the tears came — or more importantly, as I began
to hold them back — I remembered your words of opening to this energy,
and recognizing that it is an expression of joy. As I did that, I
began to see the joy, or to feel it, in the incredible acceptance of all
that is, and of you, and of Rose, I presume, for she has spoken to me before,
and I went through a half a box of handkerchiefs here, I think. It’s
like, I’ve been meditating on acceptance, and I have such weird ideas as
to what progress is, or whether or not I should even be involved with seeking
it. I guess I just want to thank you for your information and your
willingness to be with me and answer these questions. It was truly
a beautiful moment.
ELIAS: And I shall express to you, Zacharie, thanks that you allow
yourself this beauty in expression of what we have discussed previously,
in this wondrous sentimentality!
RODNEY: (Laughing) Right, right. This wondrous sentimentality!
You had also spoken to me some time ago, and it just occurs to me, that
in my meditation, if I were to bring you some of the phenomena that seems
to come up for me, you might talk to me about triggers. Do you remember
that?
ELIAS: Yes.
RODNEY: I’m sure you do. I’ve noticed over the last few
weeks that I’ll let thoughts come to me, and these thoughts are truly important.
They bring me good information. But visually, I tend to see a couple
of particular images. One is, I tend to see a background of what
is almost like clouds, clouds of purplish color, dark to light. Within
those clouds, there seems to be movement of waves of light, a lighter lavender
color. They seem to come from my periphery, and then narrow down
in a circular fashion to a smaller opening, and there’s a great deal of
imagery of circular waves, and/or something that looks like an eye or the
center of a flower, with either petals of the flower, like in a rose, or
something that might look like ... I use the term hair around the center,
like maybe eyelashes, and these are some of the visual things that occur
to me while I’m meditating. Would any of those be subject matter
for what you call a trigger?
ELIAS: Yes.
RODNEY: And what would I do with it?
ELIAS: In this, the element that you view that appears to you
to be movement of clouds, this is what you may identify to yourself as
a trigger.
In this, remember that a trigger is what you may identify as a portal
to other areas of consciousness. Therefore, in your incorporation
of meditation, as you relax and you allow yourself to be visualizing and
viewing these clouds, once you have incorporated that action, you may manipulate
your energy intentionally, but NOT forcefully ...
RODNEY: Gently, okay.
ELIAS: ... in an allowance....
RODNEY: May I interrupt for a second?
ELIAS: You may.
RODNEY: I’d like to change my tape.
ELIAS: Very well. (Pause)
RODNEY: Could you go back over that last sentence?
ELIAS: Yes. Without forcefulness, in an allowance, focus
your attention in a type of recognition of yourself — not your body, but
of that which you identify as essentially you — and that energy move towards
the imagery of the clouds. As you move your energy into the clouds
and allow yourself to penetrate and merge into the clouds, you shall allow
yourself to open your portal.
In this, once you have opened your portal, you may direct your energy
in any manner and move into any area of consciousness that you are choosing.
RODNEY: Thank you, sir.
ELIAS: You are quite welcome.
RODNEY: Thank you very much. I’ve been practicing self-acceptance,
and it has benefited me!
ELIAS: Quite! Ha ha ha!
RODNEY: I’m being a LITTLE less judgmental (Elias laughs) about
myself.
I tried to get a young girl who was cutting my hair the other day to
not cut off so much, and she became very agitated, so much so that I got
up from the chair and walked out of the barber shop. I went back
twenty minutes later and had somebody else finish the job. Normally
I would have put so much judgment on myself for such an action, and in
a few minutes, I found myself accepting myself, and not approving or disapproving
of what I did; simply accepting myself for expressing myself the way I
did.
ELIAS: Ah, and what an amazement you find in freedom!
RODNEY: (Laughing) Yes! That’s freedom! The
card I selected that day was called Victory! (They both laugh) And
that was a victorious moment! (Elias chuckles) I had no hurtful feelings
about her, but I certainly have some wondrous feelings about myself over
that!
I would like ... I have so many things I want to talk to you about!
(They both laugh) There’s a girl I know called Arlene, and she’s
pretty psychic, I guess you’d say. She said to me the other night,
“I just had a sense that you and I” — she used the term another life —
“were together in another life, and we were two gentlemen of means, of
money, in the south, perhaps during the period of the Civil War or before
it, and that your name was Jerome.” I’d like to know if you would
confirm that. (Pause)
ELIAS: Yes, this is correct.
RODNEY: It IS correct! You know, it’s important for me to
do this confirmation, because I had a sense of what she was talking about.
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!
RODNEY: And that’s surprising me also! (Laughing)
ELIAS: Quite! Of course you shall surprise yourself, that
you may be in actuality connecting with your impressions, and that they
may be correct! Ha ha ha!
RODNEY: I’m beginning to get more of them, and it’s very, very
interesting. (Elias chuckles) I’ve heard you speak of the term “automatic
response” in terms of much of what we do, and it occurred to me ... I was
thinking about a person in particular, and the idea came up for me that
we could be on automatic for a lifetime.
ELIAS: Oh, quite!
RODNEY: And never be aware of anything other than whatever the
automatic responses led us to.
ELIAS: You are quite correct.
RODNEY: And that’s kind of a revelation to me.
ELIAS: Many individuals are creating a reality in which all of
their responses ARE automatic.
RODNEY: Okay. And I have to be cautious that I don’t ...
a part of me wants to have judgment about that, but all experience is valid
or acceptable.
ELIAS: You are correct.
RODNEY: Even if a person chooses to live that kind of a focus,
even that is of great worth ...
ELIAS: You are correct.
RODNEY: ... to that particular essence. So, it does not
call for judgment.
ELIAS: I am understanding that these types of expressions are
difficult for your understanding within physical focus, for you speak with
me, and the reason that you engage interaction with myself is that you
may offer to yourself information that you may assimilate objectively,
and therefore lessen your incorporation of conflict and trauma in relation
to this shift in consciousness. This is the purpose that you are
speaking with myself.
There are individuals that choose not to be engaging this type of action,
and are choosing to be incorporating trauma in relation to this shift in
consciousness, and one of the areas of expression which does and shall
incorporate some elements of trauma in relation to this shift in consciousness
is the expression of automatic responses.
For the automatic responses are created in relation to the tremendous
influence of your belief systems and the different aspects of those belief
systems, and the movement of this shift in consciousness is to be accepting
of those belief systems, not merely moving in automatic response to them.
RODNEY: By the term “acceptance of the belief system,” you also
are implying awareness of the belief system, are you not?
ELIAS: Yes.
RODNEY: Okay. That goes hand-in-hand, right?
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.
RODNEY: Acceptance and awareness?
ELIAS: Yes.
RODNEY: Very good, sir. Hmm. Thank you!
ELIAS: You are quite welcome.
(Intently) This is an example of the importance of acceptance,
and the understanding of the difference of each individual’s perception,
and that each perception creates an actual reality.
RODNEY: Would you say that again, or maybe in a different way?
(Laughing)
ELIAS: Ha ha ha! In allowing yourself to recognize difference
of perceptions with each individual, you may also allow yourself the understanding
that these differences of perception create an actual difference in reality,
and....
RODNEY: Excuse me. You’re talking about MY perception of
other different individuals?
ELIAS: Presently. But this applies to all individuals.
In this, as you offer yourself information concerning perception and
reality, you also may incorporate an understanding of your own perception
and your own reality and how it is influenced by your belief systems, and
in the acceptance of self, you shall also move into an acceptance of your
beliefs.
RODNEY: Okay. Thank you.
ELIAS: You are welcome.
RODNEY: I find that a natural desire of mine, to become as aware
as I can — that, perhaps, is why we’re talking to each other, isn’t it?
ELIAS: Quite! (Chuckling)
RODNEY: A quick question — I think it’s a quick question.
You spoke to me the last time about another focus of mine in which I led
a life that was ... I existed in a focus in which I was pretty brutal,
and did things to people that I would hardly approve of in this focus.
And the reason I’m bringing this up is that when I indulge in self-righteous
judgment and I become automatic, I sometimes allow myself to entertain
thoughts of drastically rearranging the landscape, so to speak, in violent
ways, you know, like blowing up a building or doing something terrible
to someone.
Now, my question is that in recognizing that I go into automatic response,
something is opening a door in this behavior which I’ve just described
to you. It is opening a door which allows brutal thoughts and feelings
to come into me, and I wonder if you would comment on that.
ELIAS: (Smiling) I shall express to you, you are correct
in your identification that this type of action opens a door, so to speak,
for this is, yet again, another aspect of movement into acceptance.
Acceptance is to be incorporated in all aspects of yourself — in ALL
of your expressions, in ALL of you — not merely those aspects of you that
may be acceptable.
But I shall express to you that within the acceptance of those types
of thoughts and feelings, that you express that you view to be negative
or even violent, you create in that acceptance a deflating of the energy
which is lent to the actualization of those very types of actions.
RODNEY: Oh, I’m very aware of that. As soon as I become
aware of the thoughts or feelings that I’m holding, as soon as I become
aware of that and my attention moves to acceptance, everything evaporates.
ELIAS: I am not merely expressing within you individually.
You lend energy to the collective, to the mass.
RODNEY: By holding those thought and feelings.
ELIAS: Each time you allow yourself to be accepting of those types
of thoughts and feelings, and not placing judgment upon yourself for expressing
those types of thoughts and feelings within yourself, placing no judgment
upon them, you lend energy to the dissipation of the strength of the expressions
en masse of those very types.
RODNEY: Okay, let me continue with this for a second. The
last time I spoke to you of a dream image of the skeleton over the coliseum,
of the skull, and you talked to me about a bleed-through from another focus
in which there was considerable fear and violence, and somehow I got the
notion that when I feel these violent urges that come up with me, when
I allow myself to be self-righteous about something — and when I say self-righteous,
I mean to think for a moment that I am that right about something — that
those violent feelings come to me from these other focuses that I’ve had.
ELIAS: No!
RODNEY: No?
ELIAS: They are being created within the now BY YOU within this
focus. They are being lent energy by those other focuses, and you
are lending energy to those other focuses to be perpetuating the creations.
But YOU are creating the thoughts and the feelings in THIS focus in relation
to YOUR reality.
Those thoughts and feelings are your responsibility. They are
part of your creation of your reality. They are not a creation of
another focus which you merely assume within this focus.
RODNEY: Okay.
ELIAS: Now; I shall also express to you, each time you create
a judgment upon those types of thoughts and feelings ... let me express
the example of, you create a thought and a feeling in anger that you wish
to be bombing a building.
RODNEY: Right! (Laughing)
ELIAS: In that expression, as you create a judgment upon that
thought and feeling — as many individuals do in relation to religious beliefs,
which also encompass metaphysical beliefs — and you move into an expression
of attempting within your thoughts to retract that thought and that feeling,
for you are judging it to be bad and you wish not to be expressing that
in energy to the universe, so to speak, within your beliefs, you are in
actuality offering energy to the very creation you wish not to be lending
energy to!
RODNEY: Thank you. I’m beginning to really get that! (Laughing)
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha!
RODNEY: Thank you. I’m curious — I don’t know whether this
would serve me or not, but that bleed-through I got from that other focus,
did that focus have a name that you could relate to me? (Pause)
ELIAS: Yes; Darian.
RODNEY: How would you spell that?
ELIAS: D-A-R-I-A-N.
RODNEY: The first letter was E as in eye?
ELIAS: D.
RODNEY: Oh, D. The name is Darian.
ELIAS: Yes.
RODNEY: Okay. Rhymes with dare.
ELIAS: Correct. (Grinning)
RODNEY: Thank you, sir!
ELIAS: You are welcome, sir!
RODNEY: I’m going to make that worthwhile. I don’t know
how much time we have left, but I had a dream that I’d like to ask you
about. You know, it occurs to me that I had a whole series of dreams
on one night, and I’ve been asking you about these dreams over the last
several months! (Elias chuckles)
In this dream, I’ve been working for this company for a long time, and
I’m feeling very awkward about it because I really do not know what they
want me to do, and they want me to go represent them at a conference or
a show, and I decide not to go, and I actually do not go to work that day,
because I will not represent them not knowing what they want me to do.
Then the dream changes, and I see this huge field. A large number
of black people have arrived, and they’re all sitting on the ground like
in an auditorium in front of a huge amphitheater, open air theater.
They all came in very old cars in very good working order. I walk
past them to a house in which I meet my wife and another woman, and it’s
awkward because I’m not working. And then I leave there — I’m giving
you the highlights of this — and I’m driving. It could be a hearse
with a bunch of junk in the back — not a dead body — and there is authority
on the road in the form of a policeman who is stopping traffic, and I eventually
am allowed to go through. I discover that the countryside has been
excavated as far as the eye can see, and in this excavation, there are
also two huge dams being built. I drive on and on and on to one hill
after another, and as far as the eye can see, the land has been excavated
for the construction of something.
At the end of the dream, I come to where there are houses again, and
I go into the house, and I believe I enter on the upper level, and I meet
a group buddies, old buddies of mine. I can’t tell you who they were
except that I know they were a bunch of old buddies. We have to get
down to the first level of the house, but there’s no stairway, so we have
to climb down a ladder, very narrow, and it’s tricky because I’m carrying
something like an amplifier which can’t be dropped — it has to be handled
very carefully — and in going down these stairs, I almost drop it, but
I don’t. I don’t drop it, and I get down to the bottom of the ladder
okay, and that’s the end of the dream.
You’ve spoken to me before about the imagery of large pieces of land
that are being excavated, and I don’t at the moment remember exactly what
you said. But that imagery, and the imagery of the amplifier needing
to be brought down from the second floor to the first floor, down a narrow
ladder, will you comment on that imagery?
ELIAS: I shall offer to you that the entirety of this imagery
is related to this shift in consciousness.
I shall also express to you that this final element of imagery concerning
this particular amplifier, so to speak, and its movement from one level,
in your terms, to another, is imagery that you have chosen in symbology
concerning my interaction with you.
Now; I shall also express to you, in relation to our discussion this
day, the challenge that you incorporate the movement into your trigger
within your meditation, moving into your portal, and this particular dream
shall serve as a focal point of direction in which you may hold your attention
to be offering yourself information. This may serve as your practice
element.
RODNEY: The dream.
ELIAS: Yes. Once you have moved into your portal, you may
experience momentarily a slight disorientation, in wonderment of where
you shall direct your attention.
RODNEY: Okay.
ELIAS: Therefore, I am offering the suggestion that you incorporate
this dream to be directing your attention in this subject, and allowing
yourself to be creating the action of accessing information concerning
the imagery of this dream, and allowing yourself to be offering an objective
interpretation of this particular dream. For all of this imagery
within this particular dream is concerning your shift in consciousness.
RODNEY: Well, that’s great! Thank you.
ELIAS: You are welcome. At our next meeting, you may offer
to me your discovery, and if you are experiencing difficulty, I shall offer
to you more of an explanation.
RODNEY: I thank you.
ELIAS: You are....
RODNEY: I was going to ask you about something else in this dream,
because it comes up in many of my dreams, but I accept your challenge and
I won’t ask the question.
ELIAS: Very well! And we shall be disengaging this day,
and you may be practicing with your trigger and your portal, and you may
also be allowing yourself awareness of your counterpart action.
RODNEY: Elias, I thank you so very, very, very much.
ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend, and I express to you also
encouragement to be continuing in your wondrous sentimentality!
RODNEY: (Laughing) Thank you, sir!
ELIAS: And I shall continue to be interactive with you, and offering
my expression of energy in sentimentality also.
RODNEY: (Laughing) Thank you.
ELIAS: You are quite welcome. To you in tremendous affection,
my friend, au revoir.
RODNEY: Au revoir.
Elias departs at 1:12 PM.
FOOTNOTES:
(1) I would like to include an excerpt from another
transcript here, one that is not being shared presently. But this
is a great excerpt, I think, and relates to the discussion between Rodney
and Elias on the subject of acceptance. The title is my own, and
the rest of the excerpt is Elias.
What do you accept?
You accept yourself as the being that you are. You accept yourself
in the abilities and the qualities that you manifest and display and create
and exhibit. You accept yourself as yourself, in all of your being.
You accept that you have chosen to be manifesting within this physical
reality. You accept the qualities of yourself, which are that you
create all of your reality. You accept that within this physical
dimension, you yourself, as a participant, have created, in agreement collectively,
a design for a particular reality which incorporates belief systems.
And as you accept all of this, which is all of you, you also accept
the belief systems themselves, recognizing that in themselves, they are
not good or bad, even the belief system of duplicity, which is the expression
of good and bad and right and wrong. Even that belief system, in
itself, is not good or bad.
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