Thursday, April 13, 2000
© 2000 (Private/Phone)
Participants:  Mary (Michael) and Joe (Holden).
Elias arrives at 10:22 AM. (Arrival time is 21 seconds)

ELIAS:  Good morning!

JOE:  Good morning!  Elias, today, if it’s alright with you, to start with I’d like to pose a question to you from someone else.  There’s a girl named Sherry who I have talked with over the internet, and I’ve mentioned you and some of the things you do, and she asked if I would ask for her essence name, family, alignment, orientation, and maybe any other facts you might want to give her.

ELIAS:  (Laughing)  Very well. (Pause)  Essence name, Seale; S-E-A-L-E. (seal)  Essence family, Tumold; alignment, Borledim; orientation, common. (Pause)

JOE:  Okay.  Number of focuses, and maybe another focus that holds a similar tone? (Pause)

ELIAS:  Total numbering of focuses within this particular dimension, 413.  One focus holding similar tone which may be easily accessed and investigate[d], that within late 1800s, Australia, aboriginal male.

JOE:  Okay.  Now I’d like to ask you a question about me.  When I go to sleep at night, a lot of times I’ll give myself the instruction to try to access other focuses, especially the two that you and I have talked about before.

One was late ... well, very, very early morning.  I woke up with a tremendous emotion of fear, but I don’t think it was mine, and it was as real as real!  Standing in the room was a girl holding a baby, and the baby was hurt in some way, and I think the emotion had to do with that it was a mother and child, and the mother was very, very fearful for the wounded child.  But it was just as real as if I was right there looking upon it.  Can you explain that a little bit to me?

ELIAS:  Yes.  This is, in actuality, your allowance to be viewing — not participating as, but viewing — another focus of your essence.

In this, even within the action of viewing another focus, as it IS another aspect of you, you may be allowing yourself to be experiencing some of the expressions that that focus is incorporating in that moment.

At times, viewing another focus of your essence is not quite the same as your viewing of a motion picture, in which you may be looking to your film and you may also hold an awareness of your removal from it, and you choose not to be participating in it.

Even within moments that you may be allowing yourself an emotional response in relation to your viewing of a film, you also hold an objective awareness that you may alter that expression within any moment, and that you are choosing to be creating that emotional response quite objectively.

In viewing other focuses, at times you do not necessarily hold an objective awareness in this same manner of what you are creating, for as this is another aspect of yourself, it is not removed from you.

Therefore, what is being experienced by the other focus you may also incorporate in your experience, knowing that this is in actuality your experience also.  It is merely not within your focus of attention in your primary aspect of self.

In this, I may express to you that you are allowing yourself to draw yourself to other experiences within other focuses that hold intensity or extreme.

You are creating this action quite purposefully, in difference to drawing yourself to the identification or viewing of focuses that may be creating their reality in more of a similar manner to yourself.

The reason that you are creating this action — and that it is purposeful — is that you may recognize the differentiation of energy.

As you have stated, you already recognized and held the realization that the expression of the fear — the emotion and that energy — you were not associating with yourself, although you allowed yourself to be experiencing it.

In this, as you present yourself with some focuses initially to be viewing that are creating some experiences in extreme, it creates an ease in your differentiation of the energy, in which you hold little difficulty in identifying your own individual energy and the energy of the other focus.  Therefore, you do not become confused or threaten your individual identity, which at times may occur in these types of experiences.

You are quite correct in your assessment of the experience that you participated in ... and its reality!  You express surprise in this experience, that this appears to you to be quite real, as if it were not real.  It IS real, but I am understanding of your differentiation in reality, for this is not YOUR creation of YOUR reality.

Therefore, you separate, and it becomes a subdivision, so to speak, of reality, and not the primary reality.  Therefore, as any of these subdivisions may appear to you to be equal in quality and expression to your own reality, it becomes slightly confusing and surprising to you, for you do not hold an expectation that these realities shall be presented to you, by you, in equal intensity to your own reality.

In this, as I have stated, your purpose in drawing yourself to this type of viewing of another focus is that you shall easily differentiate your experience and your energy and your focus from another focus, which in these types of expressions of intensity and creation of familiar reality, in drawing another focus to yourself that holds tremendous similarity to your own creations, you very well may confuse yourself, and temporarily threaten your individual identity in mergence with that other focus.

Therefore, to be avoiding that action, you choose to be viewing other types of focuses that present experiences that you yourself are not choosing to be creating.  Are you understanding?

JOE:  Yes.  I think as I go along, and correct me if I’m wrong here, but I kind of get the impression that as I go along with this, and I keep practicing it and I keep playing with it and I keep having fun with it, that it probably already exists, but I have an innate trust in myself that eventually, I know that no matter what happens, I will not get confused ...

ELIAS:  Yes, you are correct.

JOE:  ... in a mergence, and that I will maintain my own integrity, so to speak.

Is it possible, and I’m sure it is, but I’d just like you to clarify this for me.  In what I saw, it was a momentary thing.  The emotion and everything was absolutely real, and just as strong as if it was my own.  But I did realize that it was something else, and I also realized that I had thought at the time that it was this female focus in Africa in the late 1800s, and that I was actually seeing what was happening, but it was momentary.  It was a point in time.  There was no background involved.  There was no action preceding, nor an action that would happen after, to let me know what was happening.  There was just an instantaneous point, an observation sort of thing, and I’m wondering, as I continue with this, if I’ll be able to see, to visualize what had happened before to instigate this, and what the results were after ...

ELIAS:  Yes.

JOE:  ... and the probabilities that had been chosen.

ELIAS:  Yes, you are correct.  This is quite common within your physical reality.

As individuals begin this exploration into other focuses, many, many times they are creating this type of experience — a momentary instant of experience to be introducing yourself to the reality of the existence of another focus, but also allowing yourself the withdrawal from interaction with that focus, and therefore not overwhelming yourself and creating an expression of fear within you.  You avoid that type of action in this momentary initial presentment.  Some individuals may continue to be presenting other focuses to themselves in this manner temporarily for a relatively short time framework.

This, as I have stated, offers you a type of introduction to the reality of the existence of other focuses, not merely the concept, and in this, as you allow yourself a development of familiarity with that reality and you incorporate a calm and a relaxation in that familiarity, you also allow yourself to move further into your investigation and your viewing, in which you shall allow yourself to view more of the scenario rather than merely a momentary glimpse, so to speak.

JOE:  Elias, let me ask you.  You have told me before that essence is not intrusive, and I believe I understand that completely.  But in interacting with other focuses, I know we have our individuality, but I know that we’re also one.  I would like to avoid in any way being intrusive.  Is that a possibility, or is that something I shouldn’t even be concerning myself with?

ELIAS:  I shall express to you, you are quite correct in your questioning as to the intrusiveness in interaction with other focuses, and I have expressed this to other individuals at times previously.

As you are merely viewing another focus, or even temporarily allowing yourself a mergence with another focus of yourself, in the action of merely familiarizing yourself through experience with you and different aspects of you, you shall not be creating an intrusiveness.

Now; let me express to you, this type of action may be quite likened to what I have expressed previously, in example, in exercising your empathic sense in this present now.  You may allow yourself — in any moment, in any physical space arrangement with any other individual — to be merging momentarily or temporarily with another individual, and you are not creating an intrusiveness.  If the other individual is not expressing an openness for that action or wishes not to be participating and allowing for that action to occur, you shall not exhibit the ability to accomplish, for they shall block your mergence in energy with themselves.

In like manner, another focus of you holds this ability.

JOE:  Yes, and I had forgotten that, and I do remember that now, that there really has to be an acceptance in order for any of this type of action to take place.

ELIAS:  Although let me also interject in this subject matter, there is a slight difference in mergence with another focus as opposed to mergence with a focus of another essence, for you may be merging with another focus, and that focus may not be blocking your mergence of energy, and as you are the same essence, you also hold the ability to be manipulating energy in that focus and creating choices for that focus, for it is you.

This is a difference, and this is the area in which I issue cautioning to all individuals in this type of action, for this IS intrusive.  It is not intrusive to another essence.  It is intrusive to yourself in the expression of different focuses of attention.

JOE:  So I could actually, in some way even inadvertently, force a choice on another focus?

ELIAS:  Not inadvertently, so to speak, no.  You may intentionally, and this is the reason that I issue cautioning to some individuals.

For some individuals, as they discover other focuses and the reality of these other focuses of themselves, choose to be engaging in this ability to merge and also allow their attention to be consumed with that action, and as they continue to interact in the mergence of another focus, they divert their attention from THIS focus and turn their attention to the other focus, and in your physical terminology, in a manner of speaking, attempt to be creating their objective desires vicariously through the other focus, which is intrusive.

JOE:  Elias, let me ask you.  Let’s suppose there’s a mergence with another focus.  Now, that focus basically operates within a veil of forgetfulness and has adopted belief systems specific to their time, specific to their situations, and specific to their outline for that particular length of that focus.

Now if there was a mergence, say, between my focus and another focus, would I bring the same belief systems and everything that I have now?  Would I still hold them, even though there was a mergence?  Basically I would have the same belief systems that have to do with my time and my particular situation and my generalized outline for my life, which is adopted before the actual focus begins in this dimension.  Would I then be drawing on what I had learned or whatever from both of those, or would there be a separation?  In the mergence, would I simply be working under the belief systems of that particular focus?

I know that when I’m expressing this, I’m saying that there is a difference ... but basically there IS a difference between focuses.  How much of this focus would I be incorporating into the mergence with that other focus?  Because basically this is something I would like to stay away from.

ELIAS:  It is....

JOE:  I would like to view the other focus, and I think this is a lot of fun, but I absolutely have no intention of being intrusive.

ELIAS:  It is dependent upon your motivation and your allowance within your abilities.

Now; let me express to you first of all, within yourself and your expression and the direction that you are creating presently, I offer to you that you need not be concerning yourself with this issue, for you are not creating this type of action.

Were you to be creating this type of action and interacting with myself and questioning myself in relation to the other focus, I would be addressing to you and issuing that cautioning to you.  I am not, for you are not engaging this type of action, nor is your movement or your intention presently creating that type of action or interaction.

But in addressing to your line of questioning, each focus does hold differences in their beliefs and their alignment with beliefs.

They may also hold some similarities, but each focus is also creating their reality through their individual perception, and they are also creating their reality with the incorporation of their individual personality, which influences their individual preferences.

Now in this, in the mergence with another focus, as I have expressed, it is dependent upon your action, for as you are aware, you hold much more in abilities than you allow yourselves to exercise or to actualize.

And in that, you may be merging with another focus, another aspect of yourself, and in the intention of merely viewing and allowing yourself to become more familiar with yourself and all of the aspects of you as essence, you shall merely merge temporarily, and the experience that you shall encounter shall be that of the other individual.

You shall not be paying attention to your individual experience.  You shall not be holding your attention in this present experience.  You shall be concerning yourself with THAT reality — that perception, that experience, those beliefs.

Now; if you are turning your attention, and your intention is to be merging with that focus to be experiencing certain expressions that you are not allowing yourself to be experiencing in THIS focus, you may choose to retain some element of objective awareness of this focus simultaneously in your mergence with the other focus, in which case you SHALL incorporate the insertion of some of your belief systems, of which you align, into that focus.

You shall also allow an incorporation of your perception into that focus, and that shall be affecting and altering of the experience of that focus, and that is intrusive.

JOE:  Well, that’s something I want to stay away from, and that’s why I directed myself towards this line of questioning with you.

But basically, as I continue to explore this, which is what I’d like to do, and I’m having quite a bit of fun with it, to tell you the truth, the only thing that I really ... I don’t want to be intrusive in any way.  I would like just to be able to view and to empathically sense, and just from this last experience, I know the strength of that empathic ability.  I knew it wasn’t me, but I also absolutely felt the fear and concern.  It was totally and absolutely real!

ELIAS:  Quite!

I shall express to you that the emotional expressions and the feelings that are exhibited in the experiences of other focuses — as you encounter them and allow yourself an empathic mergence with them — are quite real and may be expressed quite strongly.

JOE:  Yes, I’ve experienced that first hand, and I know exactly what it is that you’re saying.

So basically, if I continue to hold an ever-strengthening trust in myself, I will not get lost in these explorations, and as long as I simply wish to view these focuses and have an empathic mergence with them, I will in no way be intrusive on their individual realities, correct?

ELIAS:  Yes, you are correct, and as you continue in fun and merely an exploration of your reality, you shall automatically move in the direction of not being intrusive.

Let met express to you, Holden, intrusiveness is created quite intentionally.  You shall know as you are being intrusive.  There are no accidents, but you also may not be creating intrusiveness inadvertently.  You shall hold an awareness, and you shall know objectively in those expressions — within self — in which you are being intrusive.

JOE:  Well, I’ll trust in that, and know when and when not.

ELIAS:  Ha ha!  As I have stated, you shall automatically not be.  You need be quite intentional in your actions to be creating that type of an expression of intrusiveness.

JOE:  That’s good.  I’m glad that in interacting with you, I can get some guidelines and some understanding of that ahead of time, because it really does help with the whole overall project.

ELIAS:  And also allows you a validation in your movement, and it offers you a sense of trust within yourself that you shall not betray you, and therefore you allow yourself permission to move in these directions and not question yourself and not create fearfulness, for you may express to yourself that you shall automatically be creating actions that are acceptable and are non-intrusive.

JOE:  Exactly, exactly.  Elias, that’s about all that I have for today, and as always, I want to thank you for the interaction.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome, and I may express, you may offer my greetings to your partner ... (chuckling)

JOE:  I will.

ELIAS:  ... in affection.  To you I extend great affection also in friendship, and anticipate our continued interaction.

JOE:  Thank you very much.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome, my friend.  I express to you this day, in lovingness, au revoir.

Elias departs at 11:00 AM.

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