Concept vs. Experience
Topics:
“Concept vs. Experience”
“Signature Colors”
Friday, April 7, 2000
© 2000 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Lynda (Ruther).
Elias arrives at 11:14 AM. (Arrival time is 20 seconds)
ELIAS: Good morning!
LYNDA: Hi, Elias! It would be me, Ruther! Can I ask
you a couple of questions about a dream I had? And then I’d like
to give you my impressions of my impressions since the last time we spoke.
ELIAS: You may.
LYNDA: Okay. I had a dream a couple of nights ago with me
and Frank Sinatra. I dream about Frank Sinatra a lot, and in this
dream, I was with Sharon Stone, the actress, and myself, and Frank Sinatra.
Frank Sinatra chose to be with me instead of Sharon Stone, and I was sort
of surprised at the choice because she’s a very famous actress, and he
chose me. My feeling of being around him was a similar feeling to
like what I felt around Jasper, that feeling of my own essence being in
love with me type feeling.
Anyway, Frank Sinatra and I walked into another room, and my mother
was there and my old friend Judy, and my friend Judy sang a song to Sinatra
because she was so excited to see him, and the song was something like
Desdemona, or it started with a D. I watched my mom be really mad
at Judy because she thought it was silly what Judy was doing. I observed
my mom, and I understood that my mom really loved Frank Sinatra, and that
she was mad at Judy because Judy sang a song to him, and she probably wanted
to also. So anyway, I’ll give you my first impression. That
was pretty much the basic dream.
A couple of things about the Frank Sinatra connection — I’ve always
liked Frank Sinatra. I’ve told you that before, but the feeling was
sort of like my information to me of my own acceptability, ‘cause the feeling
was that being in love feeling with myself, so I know it had something
to do with that. My observations of my mom and Judy were ... I think
my impressions were correct about them, and it was okay with me.
Their reactions were okay with me. It was fine, because I was with
Frank, and I was secure. Do you understand what I’m saying?
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha!
LYNDA: (Laughing) So, I’d love you to tell me what that
dream is, and then we’ll talk some more.
ELIAS: You are correct in your identification of your impression
in your dream imagery.
You are offering to yourself imagery that validates to you your movement
into more of a recognition of expressions of acceptance of self, that you
may be offering to yourself the same acceptance and worth that you afford
to other individuals, and there is a recognition that there is no comparison
or competition any longer.
LYNDA: Wow. I’d like to take this opportunity to thank myself
for that! (They both laugh) Oh, that’s great! Okay, can I tell
you my impressions of what happened since the last time we spoke?
ELIAS: You may.
LYNDA: Well, I described to you a layer of the green color I
was seeing in that pyramid imagery we’ve been discussing, and I said my
interpretation of it was healing communication within and without.
Then we got into a long discussion about several different things regarding
shifting of perception and cause and effect, and I got off the communication
with you and got back on with Mary, and Elias, the tape did not record.
My very first impression of why the tape did not get recorded was because
I was so concerned with the session being valuable for others. We
were discussing all of these really important concepts, and that was my
first thought, that I was more concerned with being Helpful Hannah than
I was with listening to what you were talking about. I was more concerned
with having the right response to you, in accordance with this information.
But that was a nano-second response. My next response was to condemn
myself for being Helpful Hannah. Then my next response was ... then
Mary said to me that the only other time this has happened was with another
individual who I’m counterpart with, and I got pissed off because I thought,
oh great! Now I’m being affected again by counterpart activity!
So, I told myself it was a co-creation.
Then I got off the phone with Mary, and I crashed my C-drive on my computer,
and I could not communicate on the internet. I panicked and triggered
a mach-ten fear episode, and I observed myself create what I call a new
layer of fear, yet I watched it, Elias, and it was most uncomfortable.
I had a lot of problems reinstalling my programs and my modem to communicate
out, and the whole time I’m thinking, oy, this is communicating out before
in. That’s why I saw the imagery, and I was talking to myself to
calm down, and I pulled in a lot of intimidation from outside sources and
I allowed a lot of hurtfulness to myself in this, sort of like a mushroom
effect, and this was like 36 to 48 hours, and then I began to see a pink
layer of imagery over the green, and it was working with the green, and
I started to relax.
I realized it was pink, and I could relax and pay attention to what
was going on, and I began to do that, and then I saw pink and green balloons
all over the place, and flowers, and it was more objective validation that
I was to just relax and observe what I was creating. I realized on
another layer that I do create my reality, and then I sort of panicked
for a moment, because I literally forgot I had any other choice, and I
realized I was dealing with feeling completely out of control.
Anyway, I’m just telling you that that all happened, and at the point
I realized I was looking at control, the worm turned, in a manner of speaking.
I began to choose the moment, and at the moment that began to happen, I
saw a layer of white over the pink, and I remembered my imagery to me of
Whitey in the moment from when I was a little girl, and snapping back into
the moment dissipated the fear completely; it was sort of coming in stages.
Now I’m seeing indigo over the white, which I keep seeing that, which to
me has something to do with just allowing my natural expression and trusting
myself, whatever that is. So, I’m telling you all that to tell you
all that! (They both laugh) I’m very proud of myself, and it’s very
scary to allow spontaneous expressions, but I’m more accepting of all of
them because I’m not wanting geysers. I’m wanting to really allow
myself to express and trust me, and that’s what I’m doing! So, I’m
telling you that so you can tell me back what I’m telling you.
ELIAS: Very well, and I shall be acknowledging of you and expressing
to you validation in your accomplishment, in noticing and recognizing what
you are creating.
Now; in your incorporation of these colors, you present yourself with
these specific colors quite intentionally.
The green is expressed to you as an expression of healing, which you
are moving into. Many times the action of what you may term to be
healing also incorporates uncomfortableness. For in the action of
healing, you are also allowing for the action of opening, and in opening,
you also allow yourselves to view, and as you view, you present yourself
with elements of fear or elements of yourself that you create judgments
with, and therefore you become uncomfortable in your process, so to speak,
of healing. The green is your presentment of this healing process,
which also incorporates actions and scenarios/situations that may be uncomfortable.
You also present yourself with the color of pink. This also is
a healing color, but this color moves in relation to the green — quite
accurately expressed in your impression — as a soothing or calming or relaxing
expression which facilitates the energy of the green or the healing, for
as there is a relaxation and a calm, there is also an allowance for the
movement of the healing energy.
You also move into the incorporation of the indigo. The reason
you have presented yourself with this particular color is your association
with natural states. This vibrational quality of indigo also expresses
that translation — natural state, natural flow of energy — and this may
be incorporated into this healing process also.
In this, you have presented yourself with this type of imagery in these
colors to be reinforcing of your impressions of what you are moving through
and what you are incorporating in action to allow you to be addressing
to fear and therefore dissipating the dragon, and also allowing you to
move into an expression of freedom.
You also view the element of control and lack of control. In these,
you may address also to the dragon of fear, for the aspect of lack of control
triggers the fire-breathing! (Lynda laughs) But there is no element
that you need be fearful of in a lack of control, for control and lack
of control are merely different aspects of a belief.
LYNDA: Yeah, and I very much understand that this is not a concept.
This is a reality. I’m so appreciative of myself, that I’m allowing
myself to experience what you’re saying. I experienced what you’re
saying, and it means so much to me, Elias.
ELIAS: And as we have spoken previously in our last session, these
experiences offer you the opportunity to view perception, for this is what
is creating your reality.
Therefore, if you are perceiving through the vision of fear, you shall
be creating a reality incorporating that expression. If you are perceiving
in an expression of a lack of control and fear, you shall also be creating
a reality that exhibits your interpretation of those expressions.
These experiences have served as an example and an opportunity for you
to view the powerfulness of perception, for you also hold the ability to
turn your attention and to turn your perception in the moment. Therefore,
from one moment to the next sequentially within your time framework, you
may be creating significant differences within your reality.
LYNDA: Yeah, that’s ... amen! (Laughing)
ELIAS: Ha ha ha!
LYNDA: Yeah, that’s what happened. The first couple of days
I was nuts to get hold of you, and I couldn’t. It was so much imagery
to me! Another aspect of my perception was very much that because
of your nonphysical-ness and your remembering more than I do right now,
I saw so much of how you are like God to me.
What triggered the depth of the fear was, oh my god! I can’t get
through to Elias! What if Mary doesn’t let me talk to him?
God rejecting me twice in a lifetime? It’s just too much! And
I started to giggle, and I giggled at myself, and that was part of this
process too. Do you understand what I mean?
ELIAS: Yes.
LYNDA: It meant a lot to me that I saw the religious beliefs —
I have so much attached to nonphysical reality — and this is very helpful
to me.
ELIAS: Quite. You also have offered yourself the opportunity
in this scenario to view your ability, the value of relaxing and not moving
yourself into the expression of extremes — not necessarily moving into
an expression which incorporates the tremendous energy in surges presently,
and tapping into those surges or allowing those surges to be affecting
of you in extremes and therefore lending energy to the already-existing
issues — for this is the familiar area, and therefore this IS the direction
that you shall choose to be initially moving into in your expressions and
behaviors.
In this, you create what you identify as a panic initially, and you
call out for myself, but in the panic and the calling out for myself and
my helpfulness, you also present yourself with an obstacle which is affecting
of your physical interaction with me. For there is confusion created
in the panic, and in the confusion that is created, the physical actions
and movement that you are desperately seeking to be creating physically
slow in their materialization.
Be noticing of this process, for many, many, many individuals create
this same process. You create an expression of panic, and in panic
you create confusion, and in confusion you slow your physical movement,
in the very opposite expression, in your terms, of what you wish to be
creating! (Chuckling) Which reinforces your doubt in self and your
lack of trust in self, and reinforces the circle of creating the panic
and the uncomfortableness, which once again creates confusion and slows
your movement.
But in this process, you have offered yourself the opportunity to view
what is occurring, in a manner of speaking, step by step yourself, and
participate with your attention in noticing what YOU are creating and experiencing
step by step.
I may be speaking to you, Ruther, every day within your focus, and
without your experience accompanying my information, you shall hold the
information merely in concept.
LYNDA: Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely! Yep, yep, and
yep!
ELIAS: Therefore, you offer yourself experiences that YOU are
creating, that YOU are participating within, that YOU are drawing to yourself.
Words are words. Words create concepts. Your actions and
your creations create experiences, and this speaks to you much louder than
I speak to you.
LYNDA: Yeah, that’s true, and I really am so appreciative of this
step. It’s so validating to me. It validates my desire to move
in alignment with this shift very much.
ELIAS: And you are!
LYNDA: Yep, I are!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha!
LYNDA: Oh goody! Thank you very much for that. That
was way cool! (Elias chuckles) May I give you a couple more impressions?
ELIAS: You may.
LYNDA: Well, we talked about the Sumalfi family and you gave me
a description, and I would like to give you my impressions of what I think
the color of the Sumalfi family is, because my impression is that it’s
different than the Sumafi family. Can I give you my choice that I’m
resonating with? I’ll just tell you what my little logical progression
was, and then I’ll tell you what I’m resonating with.
In thinking about the Sumalfi color, I thought, well, the Sumafi color
is black, so maybe my love for cobalt blue ... it’s kind of blue-black,
so it could be cobalt. And then I thought, maybe it’s gray, but I
don’t really like gray, and I don’t wear gray — this is my brain working
here. And then I thought periwinkle blue — I love periwinkle blue!
So I think it’s periwinkle blue, and that’s what resonated to me.
So, if Sumalfi has a color, my impression that I resonate with is periwinkle
blue, which is sort of a warm blue. So, will you tell me what is
up with that?
ELIAS: Ha ha ha! I may express to you that you are resonating
with this particular color of periwinkle blue within your essence, and
this is an identification of a tone or a vibrational quality which resonates
quite strongly with your essence. I am aware of your other blue as
your individual signature color. Recognize that this is your identification
of you, but that your essence also resonates with other vibrational qualities,
and therefore you hold what you may term to be affections or affinities
for certain other colors in addition, in a manner of speaking, to your
individual signature color.
LYNDA: Are you speaking about the aqua color we talked about before?
ELIAS: Yes.
LYNDA: Okay, so the aqua color is my individual signature.
ELIAS: Yes.
LYNDA: And the periwinkle is all of....
ELIAS: This....
LYNDA: I don’t think “all” — it’s too small of a word, isn’t it?
ELIAS: Ha ha ha!
LYNDA: I think “all” is not a big enough word for the colors of
my essence! (They both laugh) Okay, go on.
ELIAS: I shall express to you that within essence, you do not
in actuality hold one individual signature color resonation. You
do hold several vibrational qualities that you resonate with in essence,
and this expresses itself, in your translation outwardly in your physical
manifestation, as a type of affinity for certain color expressions.
Are you understanding?
LYNDA: Yes, I am.
ELIAS: One individual may hold a signature color in a particular
focus, and also be extremely drawn to a very different color, that which
they may identify as their favorite color, and one expression may be that
their essence resonates with that particular vibrational quality, and this
is translated into an individual focus, and that focus may draw itself
continuously to that particular vibrational expression of that particular
color.
As to the color identification of this subdivision of family, in actuality,
the color identified with that family would be recognized in your translation
as charcoal.
LYNDA: Oh, that was my very first impression, that it was a mutation
of the black. Charcoal — that makes sense.
ELIAS: Ha ha ha!
LYNDA: Whatever sense is! Charcoal — oh, okay. Charcoal
— not quite black.
ELIAS: Not quite.
LYNDA: Not quite. There’s a difference, a significant difference!
(They both laugh) Okay, that’s interesting. The shades of blue
that I resonate with are what I call warm blue, not purple blues.
They’re more warm blues, so the aqua and periwinkle would make sense to
me ‘cause they have a similar warm tone, is the only way I can describe
it. Do you know what I mean?
ELIAS: Quite.
LYNDA: Okay, that’s very good. I appreciate that. (Elias
chuckles) Okay, I think I am going to ask you a Seth question because
I’m getting some Seth stuff, and then I will probably end this session.
Is that okay with you?
ELIAS: Very well.
LYNDA: I really like Seth. I like
the energy of the Seth entity person, and I felt that throughout all of
my reading of the Seth material, and I keep thinking that my connection
to the Seth guy, in his physical manifestations, that I had other focus
stuff with Seth, and I am picking up, I think, Holland. At first
I thought it was Copenhagen, but I think it’s Holland, and I could be picking
up on action with you in Denmark. I’m not sure, but I’d like you
to tell me if I’m picking up some shared focus stuff with Seth in Holland.
ELIAS: Holland, you are correct.
LYNDA: Merchants?
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct, and....
LYNDA: ‘Cause I can feel a....
ELIAS: Ha ha ha!
LYNDA: What are you laughing about?
ELIAS: And fish!
LYNDA: And fishmongers!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha!
LYNDA: (Cracking up) It’s so funny because, you know ...
oh, dare I say this? My impression....
ELIAS: Quite glamorous, are you not? Ha ha ha!
LYNDA: Quite what?
ELIAS: Glamorous!
LYNDA: Oh yes, way! I have to tell you, that reminds me
of another focus I’ve picked up with regard to Mylo, and I want you to
tell me if I’m right. See, my connection with Seth is so real and
personal to me that it’s really hard ... and the material itself can go
in the direction of this sort of intellectual evaluation of the principles
and stuff of the Seth material, and I have this connection to Seth that
is very real and dear to me, and fun, so this is certainly ... (Lynda cracks
up). I love this ‘cause it validates my impression of Seth and why
I like him! (Elias laughs) That’s interesting to me!
Anyway, I’ve been having some interaction with Mylo, and some pretty
free communication, and one thing he mentioned to me was that the reason
that he had not ... at the beginning of our communication, we didn’t exactly
get along very well. I liked him very much, but he didn’t like me
very much, and he was telling me that we were moving through the same beliefs
with relation to this wave in sexuality and it was nothing personal, which
I totally knew. I just knew that I was just driven to communicate
with Mylo, and my objective imagery about that was, for a long time, here
where I live, there were Oscar Wilde posters all over the place, and I
told you about that, and then they were taken down, and around the same
time, this was about three weeks ago, I started getting this Mylo drive
to communicate with David, and Beethoven posters went up! (Laughing)
And I thought, oh, I think he has another focus, future-something, with
Beethoven, and it was just like validation to me of a connection with David.
Anyway, I just wanted to mention that because I think it’s part of this
... I feel like David and I have had other-focus activity, and I’m just
gonna be brave here and say this, but it’s possible that it was around
the time that he was Beethoven or when his essence was focused as Beethoven,
and I had a very close relationship with him, and I think I was either
his mistress or had a very intense, close, personal relationship with him,
because the connection I feel with him ... I’ve never met him! But
I feel a real close connection to him, so I want you to tell me something
about that, if you would.
ELIAS: You do participate with this essence in other focuses.
As to the participation with a focus of Mylo as the manifestation of
your composer, I shall first of all offer a correction, for Mylo is not
manifest as that particular individual. But....
LYNDA: You are.
ELIAS: You are correct.
LYNDA: And Mylo is fragmented from you.
ELIAS: You are correct.
LYNDA: So, there’s a connection there somewhere.
ELIAS: You are correct.
LYNDA: (Laughing) Go on!
ELIAS: In this, you do participate with Mylo in that time framework,
and you also participate with that individual that you have identified
as the composer, not in the capacity of a mistress, but in the capacity
of a friend, as a male friend, in actuality. There is great affection
expressed, and also great exasperation! Ha ha ha!
LYNDA: (Laughing) Oh, that’s interesting!
ELIAS: The relationship that you create with Mylo offers you,
in that focus, a type of comfort and compensation for the exasperation
and frustration that you engage with the composer. (Chuckling)
LYNDA: Oh, that’s interesting. It’s really fun to get these
impressions because they come right out of the blue!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! Quite!
LYNDA: (Laughing) I also felt like ... I saw an old lady
in London, and I saw what I think is David/Mylo wearing a top hat and standing
next to a carriage. He was of the upper class in London, and I was
like Apple Annie from the movie “A Pocketful of Miracles,” like sort of
a haggle-toothed, older woman that was a beggar, and I was really a beggar,
and rather obnoxious in my begging, because when you’re a beggar, you gotta
beg, so you gotta do what you gotta do! And Mylo was sort of not
wanting to be around me. Is that right?
ELIAS: (Laughing) I shall validate this impression also;
yes.
LYNDA: Oh, my little Apple Annie girl! (Laughing) I love
it, Elias! It’s so fun to me!
ELIAS: I shall encourage you to continue in this expression of
fun!
LYNDA: Yeah, I don’t blame you. I don’t blame me either!
(Elias laughs) Okay, one last point about other focuses is, do I
have ... oh, two, and then I’ll go. The first one is a sorceress
focus in Scotland named Falon — I’m not sure how to spell it, F-A-L-O-N
— a woman, an independent, strong sort of sorceress in her religious stuff,
in older Scotland. Is that me?
ELIAS: Quite; a witch.
LYNDA: A witch? (Cracking up) A witch!
ELIAS: And you may be playful with this focus also! Ha ha!
LYNDA: I wouldn’t mess with her if I were me! (Elias chuckles)
Oh god, that’s interesting! I was a witch, and a zealot for Jesus.
I understand. What an odd connection of experiences to have.
I mean, essence does have a sense of humor!
ELIAS: And expression of variety!
LYNDA: Yes, I think so! Jasper is around me, and was very
much around me while I was experiencing this fear thing, and I just want
to acknowledge that, and I am moving in the direction of making more contact
with him. I’m aware that it involves me trusting myself to do that,
and I was wondering, could you give me a little hint as to what would be
a way for me to more move in his direction — ‘cause I feel him moving in
mine — and have more interaction?
ELIAS: Merely create an allowance. In this, be remembering
of our definition of patience, and in your creation of relaxing in your
energy, you may also be expressing the action of patience.
LYNDA: Okay. Yeah, I definitely feel what you’re saying,
and I will continue.
ELIAS: Very well!
LYNDA: And thank you very much, and I love you, and I’ll be speaking
to you again.
ELIAS: Very well. I shall be anticipating our next meeting
in playfulness! Ha ha!
LYNDA: Yeah, only! (Laughing) Thank you!
ELIAS: You are quite welcome, and I may be offering to you an
expression of tickling energy in the interim time framework!
LYNDA: Okay, I look forward to it! (They both laugh) Thank
you!
ELIAS: You are quite welcome. I express to you in great
affection, au revoir.
LYNDA: Au revoir, my friend. I love you.
Elias departs at 11:59 AM.
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