Friday, March 10, 2000
© 2000 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and John (Vito).
Elias arrives at 11:14 AM. (Arrival time is 22 seconds)
ELIAS: Good morning!
JOHN: Good morning, Elias!
ELIAS: (Chuckling) We meet again!
JOHN: Yes! It’s a pleasure to speak with you once again,
on this fine Friday morning! (Elias chuckles) I guess I’ll just jump
right in. My wife’s grandfather disengaged this week, and I wanted
to see if I could get his essence name and family and alignment. (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Cloe; C-L-O-E. Essence family, Borledim;
alignment in this focus, Ilda.
JOHN: Ilda — just like I am. Okay.
I want to ask you: Now, he just recently disengaged, and I remember
reading in the transcripts about how it’s individual for each person, but
I’m wondering where he went to thereafter upon disengagement, how he arrived,
and what he’s doing now. Is he still around the family, or is it
just all his choice? (Elias chuckles)
ELIAS: First of all, I shall express to you that as an individual
disengages, they allow for what you may term to be a residual energy.
This is an energy deposit which remains within your physical Regional Area
1.
In this, as the physical body also remains within your physical dimension,
the body consciousness is engaged and continues for a time framework.
Now; in this, initially, many individuals that continue within physical
focus for a time framework in relation to the disengagement of the individual
shall allow themselves an openness in which they shall be aware of and
noticing — and even at times interactive with — the energy deposit which
continues within the physical reality.
Therefore, individuals may express that they feel a presence, or that
they are interactive with the individual regardless that this individual
has disengaged, or that they may view certain actions or notice certain
occurrences in relation to that individual.
This is the expression of the energy deposit which the individual allows
to be placed in your physical reality as they choose to be disengaging
from physical reality, and in this, the energy deposit holds more strength,
for the most part, as the physical body also continues within your physical
reality.
What I am expressing to you is, if an individual is choosing to be disengaging
and the physical body also is removed from your physical reality, there
is what may appear to be less strength in the expression of the energy
deposit within your physical reality, for the individual has chosen to
be removing the entirety of the consciousness from this physical reality.
There may continue to be an expression of an energy deposit, but it also
may appear not as strongly in its expression as it may as the physical
body continues.
Now; as to the individual, you are correct that each individual is creating
of different types of movements and creations and actions once disengagement
occurs. Much of their action or what they may create in imagery is
dependent upon their belief systems associated with this reality.
In this, this particular individual presently is within an objective
state, in a manner of speaking. There continues to be an objective
awareness.
Now; let me also express to you, this objective awareness in this now
— or that you associate with this now — is not holding its attention in
association with your physical focus.
This individual has moved elements of its consciousness prior to the
disengagement into nonphysical areas of consciousness. Therefore,
there is an awareness of the individual that they are no longer, in a manner
of speaking, interactive with this physical reality, although the individual
continues to be creating objective imagery which is associated with this
objective physical reality.
The difference is that this individual is choosing to be experimenting
with their ability to be manipulating imagery.
JOHN: Okay, but that’s only in his reality, in his perception.
ELIAS: Correct.
JOHN: It wouldn’t cross over. ‘Cause the other day — I don’t
know if it was you, but it was shortly after he disengaged — my wife said
she turned the light on in the bedroom, and it just kept flickering for
like two minutes. So I don’t know if that was you, or him, or it
might have been somebody else, or it might have just been electrical wiring.
I’m not sure.
ELIAS: This is an expression of my energy.
JOHN: That’s wonderful! I’m gonna tell her that. She’ll
be very happy to hear that.
ELIAS: This has been offered in an expression of acknowledgment
and recognition of what is occurring within your physical reality.
Many times individuals view through their belief systems that they may
be interactive with an essence or they may be receiving information from
an essence that they associate as discarnate, so to speak, but in actuality,
their belief in this area is questionable. Therefore, within certain
moments, I may be choosing to be offering physical evidence that this is
not what you term to be merely your imagination. (Chuckling)
JOHN: Okay. I was talking to Mary about this very thing
yesterday. I’m always looking for you, and I think she brought up
a great point. I can’t have my expectations; it won’t happen if I’m
expecting it too much. I think what I do is, I’m thinking all the
time about it, and I’m waiting; I’m looking for signs from you. I
think I had one sign when I was talking to my wife one night, but it came
out of the blue. I saw a blue spot, and I’m like, hey, that might
have been you!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha!
JOHN: But I think I’m expecting too much, so I’m trying to teach
myself to relax. It’s just that as I was saying to Mary yesterday,
and the last time I spoke to you, the volume of the information and how
altering it is of my perception in such a short time frame, and to grow
up according to what you think is reality, as far as belief systems and
whatnot, and then to say, “Hey, wait. Let’s take a look at this,
and take a step back and look at it from a different angle.” It’s
so much, and I get so caught up in it. I have to teach myself to
relax. Like you said last time, I’m not in a race. But I know
you’ve been interactive with me; it’s just that I haven’t noticed.
ELIAS: (Chuckling) Although I may express to you, at times
you are noticing. You are merely discounting what you are noticing.
JOHN: If it’s not too much, can you just give me an example, so
I don’t go out of my mind? (Laughing)
ELIAS: Partially your expression of “out of the blue,” and the
blue! Ha ha! But I may also express to you that you do experience
moments in different time frameworks in which you feel my interaction in
energy. You feel my energy interacting with you each time we engage
within this forum. You also are becoming familiar with that energy,
and noticing those time frameworks in which it is NOT present.
Therefore, there may be an allowance of a brief momentary recognition
of my energy which is interactive with you, and you are not allowing yourself
to be paying much attention to this expression.
In this, as you allow yourself to be engaging this relaxation, as we
have spoken previously — and you also are not on the prowl, so to speak,
for parlor tricks (grinning) — you may allow yourself much more of an awareness
of more of a continuous interaction which is less flamboyant, so to speak.
I may at times engage actions which are quite obvious within your physical
focus, but I shall express to you, I also choose those time frameworks
in which I may be expressing that type of energy surge to be creating an
actual physical affectingness, in an expression of acknowledgment in energy
from myself to other individuals. At times it may be an encouragement.
At times it may be merely an expression of acknowledgment and an offering
in a physical expression, that the individual may be comforted, knowing
objectively that essences are present, regardless that you view them physically
or not.
At times I may be offering physical expressions or affectingnesses to
be gaining an individual’s attention in relation to specific information
that we have discussed, and to be offering an objective reminder, so to
speak, that the individual may be noticing of their actions or their behaviors,
and in this, allow themselves more of an awareness of self.
Therefore, I shall express to you, you are looking for the flamboyant,
and you are overlooking the continuous interaction which is present.
JOHN: Okay, that makes total sense to me. (Elias laughs)
I just have to relax a little bit, and not get so caught up in everything.
I want to ask you about the focus I have in the late 1800s when I was
in prison. I believe, I just have a feeling, that the focus of Oscar
Wilde that you held, that that’s when we were interactive, whether we were
friends or just interactive on occasion. Am I correct in that?
ELIAS: You are correct. Let me express to you, within this
particular location and within this time framework in this prison, individuals
within your physical focus do not engage the creation of relationships
in which you would identify as friendships, so to speak, for the interaction
is quite limited, and each individual is quite consumed with their individual
situation. But many individuals do encounter each other and also
become what you may term to be acquaintances, and these acquaintances do,
in a manner of speaking, mark upon each other objectively, for each of
the individuals within this prison values the interaction of other individuals
tremendously.
In this, the individual that you are viewing occupies much time in solitude,
and also creates tremendous physical affectingnesses. There is an
expression of great illness.
JOHN: Right. I remember we spoke about that last time, how
whatever is running through that prison is hitting everybody pretty hard.
ELIAS: This individual participates in this illness quite strongly,
and in this, as I have expressed to you, the individual which may be identified
as the guard holds compassion for the other individual in the role of the
inmate.
JOHN: Okay. I think of the name Henry when I think of that
time. I don’t know if that’s my name or ... it just pops into my
head.
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.
JOHN: Henry is my name?
ELIAS: Yes.
JOHN: I’m not sure about my last name, but I’m thinking it starts
with a V or something, but I’m not exactly sure.
ELIAS: And you may continue to allow your impressions to be flowing,
so to speak. I shall express to you that this individual, as you
are aware, has engaged what you would term to be the crime of petty thievery,
quite insignificant in your assessment in this present now. But within
that time framework, there is strength in the disapproval of certain classes
and the actions that they may engage.
JOHN: That must be something, for Oscar Wilde to experience that
situation, coming from his status, his stature.
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! Quite enlightening! (Chuckling)
JOHN: I wanted to ask about my wife’s mother’s essence name, family,
alignment, and such. (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Annatell; A-N-N-A-T-E-L-L. Essence
family, Sumafi; alignment, Sumari; orientation, common.
JOHN: Okay. If I could go back to her grandfather, what
orientation did he hold in this focus?
ELIAS: Orientation, common.
JOHN: Thank you. Now, her father disengaged about two years
ago, and I was wondering if I could get his essence name in that focus.
ELIAS: Essence name, Hairra; H-A-I-R-R-A. (air’ah)
JOHN: And family and alignment?
ELIAS: Essence family, Tumold; alignment, Vold.
JOHN: I want to get her brother and his wife and their baby. (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, first individual: Saum; S-A-U-M. Essence
family, Milumet; alignment, Tumold.
Second individual: essence name, Taudi; T-A-U-D-I. Essence family,
Zuli; alignment, Ilda.
Third individual: essence name, Tillie; T-I-L-L-I-E. Essence family,
Sumari; alignment, Gramada.
JOHN: Back to her father, is his orientation common?
ELIAS: Correct.
JOHN: Thank you. She has two brothers as well. My
wife has two younger brothers, Andrew and Christopher.
ELIAS: Essence name, first individual: Cuphel; C-U-P-H-E-L. (koo-fel’)
Essence family, Sumari; alignment, Vold.
Second individual: essence name, Fierette; F-I-E-R-E-T-T-E. (feer-ret’)
Essence family, Borledim; alignment, Tumold.
JOHN: My wife and I are expecting a baby
in October, and we’re very excited, and I was wondering if it would be
too presumptuous to find out the baby’s essence name, family, and alignment.
Is it too soon, or are the probabilities in place? (Pause)
ELIAS: I may offer to you, this essence also moves in what you
would term to be in and out of the physical expression. This is not
uncommon within the expression of entering focuses.
JOHN: So at times, the essence is occupying the physical location
of my wife’s womb, and at times he’s not? Is that correct?
ELIAS: In a manner of speaking.
Let me express to you, partially, an element of that focus’ energy and
consciousness is present continuously, although the attention drifts, and
therefore, at times the attention is focused within that physical manifestation,
and at times it may be diverted into other areas of consciousness and other
experiences.
JOHN: Is it still possible to get the essence name of the baby?
ELIAS: Yes. Essence name, Ariella; A-R-I-E-L-L-A. (are-ee-el’ah)
Essence family, Sumafi; alignment, undecided presently.
JOHN: That’s interesting. It’s quite exciting to hear that,
to know that the essence still hasn’t chosen the exact alignment, I guess,
or hasn’t gravitated towards a certain alignment as of yet.
ELIAS: Correct. Orientation not decided either, presently.
JOHN: Okay. Also, with the creation of a physical form ...
we’ve helped make a baby! Now as to ... I don’t know the best way
to say this. As to how the baby is born and what it’s born with,
whether it’s born with ten fingers and ten toes or what, is that the choice
of the essence, or is that in agreement with ourselves as well? Is
it entirely up to the new focus?
ELIAS: This is the choice of the entering focus. I shall
express to you, your choice in this action is merely to be participating
in the facilitation of this entering focus. You participate, each,
in the role of the parents in a physical manner. Beyond this expression,
what you assume in responsibility is influenced through your belief systems,
and is created in agreement with the entering focus.
As to the qualities, the manifestation, the physical choice of body
type, gender, orientation, heredity, and even genetic encoding, these are
all designs of the entering focus.
JOHN: That’s quite interesting. So even at that level, it’s
still that focus’ choice. That’s pretty cool.
ELIAS: Quite. Each of you enters into this physical reality
creating all of the choices concerning the manifestation of the individual
focus. This is not dictated to you by the facilitating individuals
that hold the role of your physical parents. You as the entering
focus choose your direction and all of your physical qualities, manifestations,
and reality.
JOHN: Wow. Okay, let me see where I want to go here ...
I just had it on the tip of my tongue, and I lost it.
I was reading a transcript the other day, and I don’t know who it was,
a girl I believe, and she had put an energy deposit in the back of her
house, and she created effortlessly, I would guess. She said she
wished for orchids, and orchids appeared, and then other types of things
happened for her quite easily. I guess the key to that would be her
acceptance of self and relaxation and no expectations, letting a free flow
of energy? Is that correct? (Reference #)
ELIAS: I hold an awareness of the individual that you are speaking
of. This individual does express an acceptance and a trust of her
abilities to be creating in a spontaneous and effortless manner.
This individual also engages a tremendous expression of playfulness, and
in this, allows for much of a free flow of energy.
Now; this individual also engages areas of difficulty in relation to
acceptance of self, but there is a very strong expression of trust of her
abilities, and therefore, in coupling this trust of abilities and the lack
of questioning....
JOHN: Okay, that’s what I was going to ask about. Obviously,
she is just allowing herself to be in this manner, and she’s just letting
it flow, and not questioning and not doubting and not discounting.
ELIAS: Quite, and in this also incorporating quite an expression
of playfulness, for this individual engages a type of game personally,
in a manner of speaking, and therefore, with herself, plays this game of
how she shall surprise herself, and therefore allows the flow of energy,
does not incorporate doubtfulness as to her ability to be creating, and
engages this expression of playfulness, which also facilitates her allowance
of energy movement, and therefore also lends to her physical creations.
JOHN: Okay. I want to ask you, I seem to be ... like I’ve
said, I think about this material quite a bit, and I’m assimilating it
all. It’s only been a short time since we last spoke, so I’m still
in the assimilation and conceptualizing with this information, but it seems
that every time ... I’m good all day, and I trust myself and have no problem,
but before I go to bed, I guess my expectations again come into play, and
I go to bed and start to drift off to sleep, and just in that little ...
between the fence, like riding the fence between being awake and being
asleep, I’ll have imagery presented to myself, and then I’ll strain, and
I’ll tell myself that I want the focus to clear up, and then I’ll lose
it, and ... I don’t know.
I guess what I’m asking is, what am I doing incorrectly, as far as ...
I guess I’m holding to my energy in some way.
ELIAS: This is not what we may term to be incorrect, but I shall
express to you what you are creating. What you are creating is a
struggle.
One aspect of you aligns with the belief that within the ending hours
of your day, so to speak, you incorporate fatigue and you become tired.
Therefore, you are preparing yourself for restfulness, in your beliefs.
Another aspect of you is expressing an excitement in the wish for engaging
movement in the types of expressions such as projections and viewing other
focuses.
Now; you struggle between the two, and create a tension, which creates
a frustration. For within one aspect, what you are expressing to
yourself is that you may not be accomplishing this action, for you are
physically tired and you must be engaging sleep. The other aspect
of you, in its excitement, is expressing contrary and is expressing to
you, “I wish not to be engaging sleep. I wish to be creating an adventure.”
And you battle back and forth between the wish and the desire for the creation
of the adventure, and the belief that you are engaging fatigue, and this
creates an inability to be accomplishing. Both aspects of you become
frustrated; one becoming frustrated that it is not engaging rest, one becoming
frustrated that you are engaging sleep and not the adventure.
JOHN: So how can I get these guys together so we can reach a détente
or something? (Laughing)
ELIAS: Understand the key point — the tension. This is key.
Recognize that relaxation is not necessarily the expression of deep
breaths and physical body relaxation. This may be one expression
of relaxation, but it is not the entirety of relaxation. Relaxation
creates allowance. As you are struggling and battling with yourself,
you also create a tension. Therefore, if you allow yourself to merely
relax and not incorporate this tension, in the recognition of your beliefs
... and allow your expression to move how you create it.
In this, an element of your frustration and your disappointment is that
you may engage sleep, and once engaging sleep, you have thwarted your effort.
Let me express to you, you are not thwarting your effort as you engage
sleep. It matters not. You are continuing to engage consciousness,
regardless that you be engaging your waking state or your sleep state.
JOHN: Right. It’s just the remembrance, I guess, of engaging
sleep and the exploration that I do during that sleep time, and then into
the waking objective state. I remember bits and pieces of dreams
or experiences, but to have a full-blown experience, I haven’t achieved
that yet. It’ll come. I just have to relax my mind a little
more.
Last night I slept alone in the bed, and I’m used to having my wife
next to me, and as I went down, I started ... I was relaxing, and I felt
myself drifting off to sleep, and then I’d shake myself out of it and I’d
open my eyes, and it felt like the room was filled with energy or whatever,
and I felt a fearfulness in myself. But I kept telling myself, “Relax,
it’s whatever I choose that’s gonna happen,” and yet I ... it was a battle
again last night as well.
ELIAS: And in this, as you allow yourself to practice with relaxation,
you also may allow yourself more of an engagement.
Let me express to you, this offering or allowance of relaxation is also
a key element as to your objective memory of what you shall allow yourself
within waking state. Therefore....
JOHN: I think one of the keys for me, in the objective state and
then going into the sleeping state, I guess you would call it, is relaxation.
I consider myself a pretty laid-back person, but I guess I just need to
relax, and go a little deeper into my relaxation and trustfulness.
It comes down to expectations again, I believe. It’s just that I
get so geeked up or excited about the possibilities that I’m waiting for
them instead of just allowing them to happen. I’m on the look-out
and I’m tensing up and I get excited, so I have to just relax and chill
out.
ELIAS: Interesting assessment that you offer, that you view yourself
to be a “kick-back” individual, but you also incorporate tremendous chatter
inwardly!
JOHN: Oh yeah, oh yeah! I don’t know if it’s information
overload, or it’s just that I’m processing all this information, and it’s
quite daunting at times, and....
ELIAS: Let me express to you, in this incessant chatter that you
incorporate, you complicate the simplicity of the actions.
JOHN: Right.
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!
JOHN: I have to turn my mind off and free it up and stop thinking.
I think it’s just over-thinking on many occasions.
ELIAS: It is unnecessary to be engaging the action that you have
expressed as “turning off your mind.” You may be recognizing that
you are engaging much of this chatter, and allow yourself to be relaxing
and not engaging as much of your analyzation as you generally incorporate,
but this is not turning off your thought process entirely. What you
are expressing in that type of statement is setting yourself in the motion
for what you shall deem to be failure, for you are quite accustomed to
this chatter and you are quite unfamiliar with the quiet. Therefore,
allow yourself to practice with this engagement of relaxation without the
expectation of complete silence.
JOHN: Okay, alright. I think my wife said it best.
She’s like, “You’ve been reading this material for so long. You talk
about it, you love it, you’re constantly thinking about it. Why can’t
you just let it be? You know what you believe or what you align with.
Just let it be.” And I think she’s onto something there.
ELIAS: Ha ha! Wise words! (Chuckling)
JOHN: She’s wiser than I, I believe.
ELIAS: Ah! Discounting of self!
JOHN: I knew you were going to say that!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha!
JOHN: I read another transcript, and somebody was interactive
with what they called an Indian named White Hawk, and I was wondering if
that was me or if I was familiar with White Hawk, ‘cause when I read that
name, it kind of clicked with me a little bit. (Reference #)
ELIAS: I shall express to you an encouragement to be investigating.
You do hold a focus of essence in this location, although you are not this
individual.
JOHN: I am not White Hawk. Was I a shaman or a medicine
man, or either that or a brave?
ELIAS: What you would term to be an apprentice.
JOHN: An apprentice, an Indian apprentice? To a shaman?
ELIAS: Yes.
JOHN: Okay, because I don’t know. I just feel that ... it’s
just a feeling, so that’s what I’m going to go with. That’s what
I thought. I’m an apprentice, okay. I believe I’m male.
ELIAS: Yes.
JOHN: And I believe also, from reading other transcripts ... it
just feels to me that I align or I think I have more focuses as male than
female. Would I be correct in that?
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.
JOHN: I wanted to ask you if you could also tell me how many other
focuses my wife and I have been interactive with in this dimension.
ELIAS: You engage eight focuses together.
JOHN: Okay, great. Including this one?
ELIAS: Yes.
JOHN: Thank you. I also had something else on the tip of
my tongue, and I forgot it. What was it? I’m thinking, Elias,
I’m thinking....
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha!
JOHN: What was it? I just had it on the tip of my tongue.
I’m just a little frazzled today, for some reason. I don’t know....
ELIAS: I shall express to you, practice NOW. Within the
now, RELAX.
JOHN: Okay. (Elias chuckles) Let’s see now. I wanted
to ask for a friend of mine, Harry, his essence name. (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Poarlow; P-O-A-R-L-O-W. (poor-low’)
JOHN: Let’s see, what else? I’m thinking about the Peru
focuses that I hold. I don’t know why those three stand out so much
more than anything else. I guess it’s just an allowance on my part?
ELIAS: This is correct. You are allowing yourself to be
offering yourself a window, that you may be viewing, in a beginning manner,
other focuses. These particular focuses hold a similar type of energy
to your expression within this focus. Therefore, there is an ease
in the allowance of movement into those focuses.
JOHN: If we could just touch on my intent
before we disengage today. I’ve been trying to think about what you
said last time, to examine my life in its whole, in its entirety from childhood,
and to notice a pattern. I don’t know. I guess I could use
a little more narrowing down into the pattern itself. I’ve dealt
with death or disengagement of other focuses since the time I was 14, and
since then, it’s been pretty prevalent in my life, as it is with others,
but it just seems that I’ve experienced that more.
I’m trying to get more clues as to my intent. I know I’m the pot-stirrer
— that’s part of my Ilda alignment — but I’m trying to find my own individual
intent and what I’m going to. I know you said to look to self, and
if you could just give me any more clues, or maybe just another prodding
in the right direction, I’d appreciate it.
ELIAS: Very well. I am understanding of what you are expressing.
I shall suggest to you that you are, in part, correct.
This imagery that you have presented to yourself, and the actions or
participation that you have drawn yourself to in relation to the action
of disengagement, is an element of your intent; not the disengagement itself,
but that you incorporate an intent which addresses to the concepts of disengagement
or death, and the myths that are associated with this action.
JOHN: Okay. Maybe I’m onto something here then, because
I don’t know ... my wife even says, “Sometimes I think you’re obsessed
with death,” and I’m like, I’m not obsessed. At one time, I think
I was obsessed. I needed to know why or how or what happens after
death, because it’s just ... for whatever reason, that’s my intent.
But as I’ve moved along in the last five or six years, I’ve gotten away
from wondering why or how come at this point. It’s just that I’m
still intrigued by the whole, the bigness of consciousness, what we really
are, the true meaning of ourselves. So maybe my intent is to find
that remembrance in myself. I guess that would be part of it.
But isn’t that what all of us are doing in this situation right now?
That’s why we’re here in this physical time.
ELIAS: Not particularly with this one subject matter.
In this, you allow yourself to be focusing your attention in this area
and you have allowed yourself an investigation and an occupation with this
subject matter individually, that you may dispel certain aspects of your
own fearfulness which is associated with this action. Now you engage
a fascination with this action in a different type of manner, but continuing
to be moving within your individual intent.
This offers you the opportunity to be seeking out and exploring the
philosophies and the myths that individuals hold within this physical dimension
concerning this subject matter and this action, and allowing yourself to
be viewing more clearly the actual action which occurs in the creation
of this choice for disengagement of physical focus, and the recognition
that this is merely a movement, in like manner to your physical movements
to other countries.
JOHN: Right, and I was explaining that to my wife as well, ‘cause
you’ve said this on more than one occasion. It’s easy for me to say
right now, because I loved her grandfather, but I didn’t have the relationship
that she had, and she says she understands when I tell her, “Listen, he’s
not gone. I know you’ll miss him because you can’t physically, objectively
talk with him and touch him and tell him you love him, but on some level,
you’re able to.” It’s easy to say because the sting isn’t as hard
for me as it is for her right now, because emotionally, of course, she
misses her grandfather.
I don’t know if it’s an automatic response or whatever, but I’m thinking
that eventually, as we get along, as we move into the shift, we’ll become
more and more conscious of just exactly what happens in disengagement,
and it might not be as traumatic for people as it has been since the beginning
of ... since as far back as we can remember.
ELIAS: Let me express to you, in one parting clue in conjunction
with your intent in this focus, one of the actions of this shift in consciousness
is to be dropping the veils of separation.
In this, I have expressed previously and offered information that an
action that you shall be engaging in this shift in consciousness is to
be piercing the veil or dropping the veil between the physical expression
and the nonphysical expression which occurs in what you view to be subsequent
to disengagement. Therefore, this veil of death shall be pierced.
Recognize that now, within this time framework, you are beginning the
insertion of this shift in consciousness into your objective reality, and
as you engage and move within your individual intent, you may also allow
yourself not merely the expression of verbal communication with other individuals
concerning the possibility of interaction with individuals that have chosen
to be disengaging physical focus, but the actualization of this action.
The veil is much thinner than you recognize.
JOHN: Okay, so I’m just trying to process. This would be
part of my intent, then?
ELIAS: Yes.
JOHN: Okay, so I’m just kind of narrowing it down now. My
intent is ... the imagery of the act of disengagement and my fascination
with it, and then my movement towards ... I mean, the reason that I’ve
chosen this time period to manifest is to experience this firsthand.
ELIAS: And also ...
JOHN: To help others?
ELIAS: ... to be assimilating this information, and in your engagement
with other individuals, to be allowing, through your recognition of the
lack of separation ... you shall also allow the presentment to other individuals
that in actuality, this veil is very thin, and they hold the same ability
as do you to be piercing through this veil.
JOHN: Okay, so I have some work to do then! (They both laugh)
Just one last thing before I go. My friends had a baby six or
seven months ago, Sparth, you gave me the essence name already, and before
Sparth was born or manifest in physical, I said to them, “It’s a wonderful
thing that you’re having this baby, and now I’m having one, and a friend
of mine. These babies are going to be beautiful, and they’re going
to teach us a lot.” Because I just read the other day, you said that
people that choose to manifest at this time have more of an objective awareness
of the non-separation of consciousness, and it seems like the children
will be our teachers as we go along, and help lead the way towards this
shift.
ELIAS: Let me express to you, they shall offer an example, but
they shall not engage teaching, for they recognize that this is unnecessary!
(Laughing)
JOHN: Well, they will be a shining example then! I guess
the struggle, or not the struggle, but I guess the difficulty we have assimilating
this is because we’ve been brought up in a different type of time frame.
They’re kind of born into this shift, so they just have more of an allowance
or a free flow in them than we do.
ELIAS: They are emerging into the shift within a different action
and a different time framework. You have, in your terms, been born
into this shift also, but within a different action of it.
JOHN: I’ve always believed that ... I know others disengage from
this dimension because they don’t want to participate in this shift objectively
for whatever reason. The choice is theirs, and that’s wonderful for
them, whatever they want to do. But I’ve always felt, and I feel
very strongly, that I’m here, and that part of my intent also is to experience
this shift, if not fully, at least for a large amount of linear time.
ELIAS: You are correct.
JOHN: So I believe that’s why I think I’ll be around for quite
some time. I tell my wife not to worry! (They both laugh) I’m
gonna be here forever, don’t worry about it! Not that I will be here
forever, but I just know that I’m supposed to experience all that happens
objectively. I know there’s trauma happening now, and there will
be more coming. I was talking to Mary about the shift, and how it’s
not going to be just one big thing. It’s a bunch of little things,
but maybe there will be like four or five events that will kind of wake
everybody up, because it seems that everybody is still holding to what’s
familiar, and with these shootings happening, when you find out about one
child shooting another child, and people automatically retreat back and
hold to their energy and say, “How can this happen?” There’s blame,
when maybe we should be looking to ourselves, I guess.
ELIAS: Quite, and I shall be offering more information concerning
these occurrences futurely.
JOHN: Okay, Elias. I think I’ve taxed Mary quite long enough,
and I want to thank you for your linear time, and I hope you have a really
good day! (Laughing)
ELIAS: Ha ha ha! And I may extend the same to you, my friend!
Ha ha ha ha! I offer to you encouragement in energy, and you may
allow yourself to be feeling and experiencing my energy this day as you
engage your farewells, in a manner of speaking! (Laughing)
JOHN: Thank you very much, Elias, as always, I guess.
ELIAS: To you this day, I anticipate our next meeting.
JOHN: I do as well.
ELIAS: I express to you in great affection, au revoir.
JOHN: Au revoir.
Elias departs at 12:24 PM.
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