Saturday, December 4, 1999
© 2000 (Group/Pennsylvania)
Participants: Mary (Michael), Gary (Hezrah), Joe
(Holden), Meira (Mikyle), and 8 new participants: Brad (Elleil), Carlos
(Isadora), Crizi (Jako), Justin (Valeer), Lenora (Annabelle), Naomi, Richard
(Blake), Tony (Antonio), and Warren (Gennah).
Vic’s note: This session was held in a funeral home.
Like Mary said, what a perfect place for a dead guy! HA HA!
Elias arrives at 2:40 PM. (Arrival time is 29 seconds)
ELIAS: Good afternoon! (Grinning)
GROUP: Good afternoon!
ELIAS: We meet again! (Chuckling)
JOE: Elias, today, if it’s alright with you, before we start the
group session, we would like to go right to left, and if you could give
each person their essence name, family, and alignment, we would appreciate
it.
ELIAS: Very well. Are you inquiring to orientation in this
focus also?
JOE: Pardon?
ELIAS: Are you inquiring to the orientation of the individuals
within this focus also?
JOE: No. At this point, just essence name, family, and alignment.
ELIAS: Very well.
JOE: Gary, do you want to start?
GARY: You’ve already given me mine, so unless there’s something
new, you can go on to someone else! (Elias chuckles)
MEIRA: Hi, Elias. I’m Meira. You already gave me my
information.
ELIAS: Welcome!
MEIRA: Thank you.
JOE: Brad?
BRAD: Hi. I’m Brad. (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Elleil; E-L-L-E-I-L. (el-leel’) Essence
family, Sumafi; alignment, Gramada.
BRAD: Thank you.
ELIAS: You are welcome.
CARLOS: Hi, Elias. I’m Carlos. What is my essence
name, family, and alignment?
ELIAS: Essence name, Isadora; I-S-A-D-O-R-A. Essence family,
Tumold; alignment in this focus, Borledim.
CARLOS: Thank you.
ELIAS: You are welcome.
WARREN: Good afternoon, Elias. My name is Warren.
Can you give me my essence name, family, and alignment, and can you spell
them all for me?
ELIAS: (Smiling) Very well. Essence name, Gennah;
G-E-N-N-A-H. (zhau’na) Essence family, Sumari; alignment in this
focus, Milumet. Sumari: S-U-M-A-R-I. Milumet: M-I-L-M-U ...
WARREN: Thank you.
ELIAS: ... E ...
WARREN: Thank you.
ELIAS: ... T. (Grinning)
WARREN: Thank you.
ELIAS: You are welcome, you are welcome, you are welcome! (Grinning
and chuckling, and everybody laughs)
Vic’s note: I think Elias needs to brush up on his spelling....
TONY: Good afternoon, Elias. My name is Tony. I’d
like to have my essence name, family, and alignment, please. (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Antonio. Essence family, Vold; alignment,
Sumari.
TONY: How do you spell Vold, please?
ELIAS: V-O-L-D.
TONY: Thank you.
ELIAS: You are quite welcome.
LENORA: Hi, Elias. I’m Lenora. Can you give me that
same information?
ELIAS: Essence name, Annabelle. Essence family, Ilda; alignment,
Sumari.
LENORA: Elias, does that mean I’m related to Tony? ‘Cause
I don’t want to be. No, I’m kidding! (Much laughter, and Elias chuckles)
JOE: I have mine. Crizi, you have yours, right?
CRIZI: Yes.
JOE: Rich?
RICH: I was told my essence name, but you’re welcome to confirm
that if you wish.
ELIAS: It remains the same. And offering ...? (Looking at
the next person)
JUSTIN: I’m sorry, Elias. I was waiting for a pen and paper.
Maybe someone will write it down. (Elias chuckles) My name is Justin,
and could you give me my essence name, family, and alignment, please?
ELIAS: Very well. Essence name, Valeer; V-A-L-E-E-R. (val-year’)
Essence family, Gramada; alignment in this focus, Ilda.
JUSTIN: Thank you very much.
ELIAS: You are welcome. (Brief pause, and then...)
MUCH is occurring within this time framework, in what you would term
to be physically as the end throes of your year, your century, your millennium.
Extremes in energy are occurring. Individuals are experiencing
new and unusual movements. Some individuals are experiencing extremes
within conflict. Some individuals experience extremes within surprise
and new wonders, and throughout your planet, there is a heightened awareness
to movement in energy.
This manifests in many different types of expressions, in conjunction
with the individuals and also collectively, but there is an objective awareness
occurring in heightened manner within you all that there is movement happening,
so to speak.
In this, you present to yourselves many examples in imagery of your
belief systems. You bring to surface awareness, so to speak, many
different types of manifestations of expressions of your beliefs.
This allows you the opportunity to view, examine, and evaluate your
belief systems. It allows you the opportunity to be assimilating
more information in conjunction with your belief systems. It also
allows you the opportunity to view some of the limitations that you place
upon yourselves in conjunction with your belief systems.
But it not merely allows you the opportunity to view the limitations,
but it allows you to view the opportunities that you may be presenting
to yourselves in widening your awareness and eliminating many of your obstacles
that you place before yourselves in conjunction with your beliefs, and
eliminate many of your limitations.
In this, you also open yourselves and your awarenesses to new avenues
of acceptance. There are also tremendous expressions occurring that
you are collectively creating in rebelliousness in conjunction with this
widening of awareness.
The widening of your awareness in this physical dimension, in the terms
that you have constructed within the design of this shift in consciousness,
are unfamiliar to you, and what you have created to this point within your
linear time framework IS familiar to you.
The acceptance of belief systems is an unfamiliar movement. Movement
within your belief systems and the perpetuation of them and the expression
of them is quite familiar to you. Therefore, there is an element
of comfort in the perpetuation of your belief systems.
Now; in this particular meeting, we shall also be discussing three of
your terms — of acceptance and of tolerance and of patience. These
are terms that you have incorporated for much of your time framework throughout
your history.
Many essences — many individuals within physical focus that you identify
as teachers or masters or whichever designation of label that you assign
to them — have incorporated these particular terms, and you in this time
framework, as the energy of this shift in consciousness is accelerating,
attempt to be incorporating these particular terms into your focus in what
you identify as a type of working manner, in your vernacular.
GARY: This is incredibly apropos for us in terms of my nephew,
who has suddenly decided that because we didn’t go to his wedding, he can’t
stand us, and he’s been sending me horrible emails, and I have to just
ignore that and ... I’m not sure what, but being patient and so on with
him is, I guess, something I need to do. (Elias chuckles)
ELIAS: (Loudly) Now; I shall express to you that these three
terms appear to be quite difficult for your incorporation within your physical
experience. You incorporate conflict in your attempt to be manifesting
patience or acceptance or tolerance within different situations or circumstances
and moments of your focuses within this physical dimension. They
appear to writhe against your natural inclination of movement within your
focus.
Many of your beliefs express to you in one manner that you SHOULD be
incorporating these actions, and many of your beliefs express to you contrary,
for they express to you — or you express to yourselves — that you should
be NOT incorporating patience or tolerance, but you should be affording
these attributes to self and not incorporating them in conjunction with
other individuals.
“Look to self first. Identify the importance of your expressions
first, and do not concern yourself with the expressions of other individuals.”
I myself have incorporated language in similar manner with many of you,
expressing to you to be concerning yourself with self and not concerning
yourself with the expressions or the movement of other individuals.
Now; in this direction of information, this is correct, for as you are
looking to self and incorporating these actions — for these are terms for
actions — you shall be also incorporating elements of the same expressions
with regard to other individuals as a natural byproduct of the action of
acceptance and tolerance and patience within self.
These three terms hold very different meanings — they are very different
actions — and one of the difficulties that you experience within physical
focus is a lack of understanding of each of these terms. You express
to yourselves that these are virtues and that these are elements that are
desirable to be incorporating into your focus, but you do not hold an understanding
in objective terms of what these movements are.
What is your identification of patience?
(Pause)
LENORA: Accepting?
JOE: The ability to watch and learn over a long period of time
without passing judgment.
JUSTIN: Giving the person the benefit of time.
ELIAS: You also identify with patience, waiting; to be allowing
yourself a time framework of a lack of movement, a lack of action; a waiting
period, so to speak.
I express to you that patience is an action. Patience is a movement.
In this, I have expressed to individuals within different time frameworks
that they may be exercising patience and this may be helpful within their
movement, and as the movement of this shift has intensified, it has become
increasingly clear that within physical focus, your identification of the
definition of this word of patience is lacking.
Therefore, it may be expressed to you that you incorporate this action
of patience, but you hold a lack of definition of what you are being instructed
to be doing. Therefore, how shall you be incorporating the action
of patience if you do not hold an objective definition of the instruction?
Patience is an allowance. Patience is an objective incorporation
of movement; an intentional, objective action of allowance for the natural
flow of energy. Patience is a direct implementation of action in
conjunction with the selection of probabilities.
You are continuously choosing and creating probabilities, and in this,
each probability that you choose within every moment may not necessarily
be immediately or spontaneously inserted into this physical reality, for
you have created this physical reality with a linear time framework.
All probabilities are actualized, but all probabilities are not necessarily
actualized within this officially accepted objective reality within this
physical dimension. You choose one probability to be actualized into
this physical reality in conjunction with each direction of movement that
you incorporate and in conjunction with your experiences.
You may set probabilities into motion, and in that choice you may be
creating the movement for the actualization of a probability, but it has
not entirely been inserted into your actual physical reality within the
linear time framework yet.
The action of patience is an active participation with the probabilities
that you have set into motion in your physical dimension in an allowance
of what you have already chosen in conjunction with your acceptance — for
acceptance is a different action — and this allowance creates a free flow
of energy.
The lack of incorporation of patience is a movement of pushing, which
you incorporate in an action of forcing, so to speak, energy that you manipulate.
In this, many times you may place a probability in motion, and you may
alter the manifestation of that probability by not allowing the free flow
of the energy.
Therefore, you may hold a thought process of an objective want that
you wish to be creating and manifesting within your focus. Within
the moment of your recognition of that want, you have already set into
motion a probability to actualize that want.
You may also alter the actualization of that probability through your
lack of trust and acceptance within yourself and your pushing of energy,
which redirects the flow of energy, and you may not in actuality manifest
that want, for in your lack of patience, you have created an alteration
of the direction of energy.
Individuals perplex themselves many times within physical focus in expressing
to themselves, “I want to be manifesting this particular thing, and I am
concentrating and concentrating my energy in this direction to be manifesting
of this thing, and I am experiencing frustration, for it is not manifesting,
and I know not why it is not manifesting.”
And you also express to yourself perplexities that what you want is
not being actualized within your physical focus, for you express that you
have received information that you shall manifest what you concentrate
upon. Therefore, if you are concentrating, you should be manifesting.
Concentration is not necessarily objective thoughts, but you equate
concentration with thinking.
Therefore, if you are thinking, thinking, thinking of what you want,
and you are objectively expressing to yourself repeatedly, “I shall manifest,
I shall manifest, I shall manifest,” you believe you shall manifest, for
this is your expression of objective concentration, and you create what
you concentrate upon.
I have also expressed this to many individuals, but your concentration
is not necessarily your thought process. Your concentration is the
expression of your beliefs.
Your thoughts may not necessarily move in conjunction with your underlying
beliefs. One of the most strongly expressed belief systems within
this dimension, as I have expressed many times, is that of duplicity.
This particular belief system is quite cunning, and YOU are quite cunning
in how you create camouflage within yourselves and how you fool yourselves
with your thought processes that you may believe one direction, and in
actuality you may hold a very different aspect of beliefs underlyingly.
This is the area in which your concentration lies. Your concentration
is that which you genuinely believe.
Now; returning to the term of patience, you may substitute the word
“allowance” for the word “patience,” for the action of incorporating patience
is merely the action of allowing yourself to move naturally and to flow
within your energy without complication.
This is also a reason in which you experience difficulty with patience,
is that this is a simplification of movement, and you are quite fond of
complicating movement within this physical dimension! (Grinning)
It is fascinating to you to be complicating ALL areas of your physical
existence!
CARLOS: Elias, why do we create all these complications?
ELIAS: For it is stimulating to you! It is interesting!
You are an energy essence. Your natural state of being, of consciousness,
is a continual movement of exploration and becoming.
Therefore, in your terms in this physical language, you have an insatiable
curiosity of EVERY possible manifestation of consciousness. Every
experience, every element that may be created within consciousness, you
desire to be creating.
This is a physical dimension. This is an extremely intricate physical
dimension....
CARLOS: Is it natural, then, for us to create these complications,
in an inability to cope with ourselves, to express ourselves in the way
we want to? Is it something natural, to create obstacles and difficulties?
ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes. It is unnecessary,
but in this particular physical dimension, there is an element of this
type of movement that is objectively natural to you, for it is an element
of your exploration and your curiosity and your desire for experience.
CARLOS: You said it’s not necessary, which means there is another
way to be doing it, but there’s something wrong there. Why are we
doing it if it’s not necessary?
ELIAS: You create MANY actions within this physical dimension
that are unnecessary.
CARLOS: Why is that?
ELIAS: This is movement in conjunction with your curiosity and
with your exploration of all of the expressions of this physical dimension.
MANY of your expressions within this dimension move in conjunction with
your exploration of your emotional qualities.
Emotion is a base element in this particular physical dimension.
Emotion is relative to this physical dimension — and certain other physical
dimensions — but not to all of consciousness.
Therefore, as you choose to be manifesting within this particular physical
dimension, it is quite natural for your movement in exploration of all
of the qualities of emotional expression, for this is not a manifestation
that may be relative to other areas of consciousness.
Therefore, there is a curiosity also as to the intensities of emotional
expressions, the diversity of emotional expressions. You create many
elements of conflict within this particular dimension to be experimenting,
in a manner of speaking, with the emotional quality that accompanies many
of your experiences.
As I express to you that certain movements are unnecessary within your
physical focus, I express this purposefully, that you may allow yourselves
an understanding, in objective terms, that there is more available to you
than you perceive yet.
This allows you the opportunity to open your objective awareness and
eliminate some of your limitations, and this is part of the point of this
shift in consciousness, which YOU have created and YOU have designed.
Therefore, it is your objective, so to speak, to be moving in this direction,
and the information that I am offering to you is merely an aid in response
to your own creations.
YOU have asked, within consciousness, for helpfulness — in your OWN
movements into a remembrance of essence and of consciousness — that shall
aid in your objective movement in conjunction with this shift in consciousness.
Now....
JOE: Elias, may I ask a question?
ELIAS: You may.
JOE: Some philosophies point to ego as
the reason for complications in people’s lives. What do you consider
ego to be? And is that a way to put it, in a nutshell?
ELIAS: This also would be a complication in explanation to yourselves
of an aspect of yourselves. You are quite fond in this physical focus
of classifications and separations. You entertain yourselves with
segregations of elements of your reality, even to the point of separation
and segregation of yourselves into sections and different parts, so to
speak.
Therefore, within your psychology, you separate your awareness into
sections. [You identify] that element which drives you, that element
which focuses attention upon yourself, that element which holds the quality
of selfishness or what you identify as self-centeredness, self-indulging,
self-focusing, as the ego, self-perpetuating, and you also identify elements
of negativity with this designation of ego.
You identify certain elements of negativity with what you identify as
subconscious, for this is an element of yourself that you have created
as a section of yourself which identifies that aspect of yourself that
is unbeknownst to you, that is outside of your control.
JOE: But not necessarily negative.
ELIAS: At times you attach negative to this, for you assess that
there are certain behaviors that you may be creating which are influenced
by your subconscious which are not within your control, and this is not
necessarily good.
JOE: But the truth.
ELIAS: Not necessarily truth either. But within your beliefs,
you may identify that what appears to be offered to you through your subconscious
shall be truth. I shall express to you that this also is a belief.
It is not necessarily truth. It may be truth that it is a reality
and that reality is truth, but beyond reality, it is merely a belief.
I may express to you, you may incorporate an action of engaging interaction
with another individual, and you may engage a process that you identify
as hypnosis, and this process you believe shall allow you the ability to
access areas of your subconscious — or that which you identify as your
subconscious — and this shall unlock secrets that you do not allow yourself
to access objectively, and you may offer to yourself a recalling of an
experience of an encounter with what you identify as an extraterrestrial,
and as you disengage this action of your hypnosis, you may hold an objective
memory of what you have accessed in recall within this action of hypnosis.
Now; is your recall, is your memory truth?
JOE: To you, I believe it would be.
ELIAS: Your experience, in a manner of speaking, is truth, for
it is a reality, and reality is truth. The experience or the recall
of the experience may not necessarily be what you identify as truth, but
may be a translation and may be an interpretation.
You may hold a very clear memory. You may hold great clarity in
your recall of a particular experience, but the experience itself may be
a translation. It is a reality. It is not what you identify
as a distinguishment that some elements within this dimension are not real.
JOE: What’s wrong with my translation?
ELIAS: There is no element that is wrong with your translation.
Your translation is a reality. It is your interpretation, through
your perception and your objective understanding, of an experience.
It is not wrong.
JOE: Is it not what counts?
ELIAS: It is, in your terms, what counts or what matters, and
it also is not what matters, for it is a filtration through a perception.
Therefore, it is a reality in conjunction with this physical reality,
with this physical dimension, and it is relative to this physical dimension.
It is a reality in the experience of consciousness as a creation of consciousness,
but it is not necessarily a truth.
JOE: Then why were we made individual?
ELIAS: Ah, but you were not made!
JOE: Then ... wrong terminology. Why ARE we individual?
ELIAS: This offers you an opportunity of exploration. As
I have stated previously, essence or consciousness is continually within
a state of becoming, and therefore is continuously within a state of exploration,
and in this state of exploration, it is continuously creating and manifesting.
Imagination is reality.
You, within this physical dimension, mirror many elements of consciousness
— not all, but many elements of the natural state of consciousness — and
you objectify these elements into physical, solid terms. You create
physical movement. You create objects. You create imagery within
a thickness that you may move through in a physical manner, which creates
a slowing of action and offers you the opportunity to view intensely every
aspect of this particular area of consciousness.
All of what you create within this dimension is a mirror of different
aspects of movement of consciousness. It also is all a translation.
It is translated into physical solidity.
Even your thoughts and your communication holds a physical quality to
it and a thickness in energy that is translated through a time framework,
an element of time, which creates a thickness within the expressions of
all that you create within this physical dimension.
And therefore, what is the point? (Grinning at Joe) The point
of this physical dimension is merely to be experiencing. You are
not conducting a mission. You are not upon a holy quest.
JOE: Don’t feel guilt?
ELIAS: Guilt, I shall express to you — as I have expressed many
times previously — is one of the two manifestations of energy within this
physical dimension that you express that may be the most closely associated
with a waste of energy. In actuality, there is no waste of energy.
Therefore, I may not express to you definitively that the expression of
guilt is absolutely a waste of energy, for no energy expression is wasted,
so to speak.
But I shall express to you, were there any expression of a waste of
energy, the expression of guilt and worry would be those. These two
expressions of energy serve merely to perpetuate the belief system of duplicity.
They reinforce all that you identify as negative.
They reinforce the expression of a discounting of self, a lack of acceptance
of self, and they create an expression of devaluation of worth, which —
in a manner of speaking, figuratively speaking — is an expression which
is contrary to consciousness and essence.
I am not expressing that it is not a creation that may serve or that
has served as beneficial to you within this physical dimension within different
moments of your history, but I shall express to you, within consciousness,
were there to be an expression of an unacceptable manifestation of energy,
these expressions would be they.
JOE: Whew! (Laughter)
GARY: Well, I know Seth had pointed out the two versions of guilt,
one which he says is beneficial, which is just to let you know that this
may be something that you shouldn’t do again, versus the kind of guilt
that we have in our civilization, which just goes on and on and on forever,
and you don’t release it.
ELIAS: I am understanding of the direction of this information,
and I am understanding the purposefulness of this information.
I shall also express to you, in conjunction with the direction of flow
of this particular forum this day, that this also is an insertion of an
extra piece, so to speak — a complication of information purposefully offered
for your understanding within a transitional point — that you may assess
certain information in conjunction with your belief systems that shall
be acceptable to you, which allows you a window to move into more of an
acceptance of information that would be, so to speak, offered to you futurely.
This is that information. And I shall express to you that within
this information that I offer to you — without complication, in its simplicity,
and without distortion — any expression of guilt is unnecessary, and as
I have stated, were there to be a waste of energy, this would be the expression
of it in any form.
GARY: I guess you can’t say it any more clearly than that!
ELIAS: It is unnecessary to be incorporating guilt or worry within
your focus!
You create worry in the discounting of self and your abilities and your
lack of trust of self, that you do not hold the ability to be accomplishing
in a successful, in your terms, or adequate manner.
You incorporate worry in the expression of what you identify as a lack
of control. Control, I shall express to you, is an illusion!
This is a manifestation through your perception, which is directly influenced
by your beliefs, and is NOT in actuality an actual thing.
There is no control. It is merely an illusion that you provide
yourselves, that you may offer to yourselves some element of permission
to be manifesting certain directions within your physical focus that you
wish to be manifesting ... but it is not entirely successful!
Worry is the perpetuation of a lack of trust of self. Guilt is
the perpetuation of a lack of acceptance of self.
I have stated previously and shall do so now, trust and acceptance are
not synonymous. They are two different movements. They are
two different expressions. You may be trusting of certain elements
of yourself and your abilities and your creations, and not be incorporating
acceptance of yourself. Therefore, they are not the same in expression.
Worry attaches, in the aspect of duplicity, to trust. Guilt attaches
in the manner of a parasite, in YOUR identification of a parasite, to your
acceptance of self. Therefore, these are expressions that offer you,
in your assessment of negative and positive, no positive payoff.
They are also unnecessary, for there is no need for their generation,
for what shall occur within your physical focus that shall be an acceptable
expression of guilt, other than your belief systems? What perpetuates
this expression of guilt? Not yourself, in actuality, in your natural
state, not your natural flow of energy, but your incorporation of belief
systems and shoulds and should nots.
GARY: Is there no such thing?
ELIAS: They are a reality as you create them to be, and what I
am offering to you is that they need not be, that there IS reality beyond
shoulds and should nots.
GARY: Am I holding the conversation up?
ELIAS: You are not!
GARY: But wasn’t civilization built on people learning to not
do certain things and to treat others in certain ways so that we didn’t
kill each other off?
ELIAS: Let me express to you that you have developed belief systems
throughout your millenniums, and in these belief systems, you have incorporated
very strong alignments and creations of behaviors and limitations and guidelines,
and MANY of the actions that you incorporate are influenced through many,
many, many different types of religious beliefs.
I am not expressing religious beliefs in the manner of institutions,
but underlying religious beliefs as to the identification of what you are,
who you are, where you exist, and how you exist.
And what you are in conjunction with religious belief systems is a manifestation
of “less than,” and what you create as a manifestation of “less than” are
natural inclinations in the direction of hurtfulness and untrustworthiness,
and this is quite incorrect.
These are aspects of beliefs that you have incorporated and that you
have created a reality in conjunction with, but they are not truths.
There is no supreme being which has created you in its image.
YOU have created a supreme being in YOUR image.
GARY: Then where do you get your power?
ELIAS: And which power would you be identifying of?
GARY: The energy to be.
ELIAS: You always have been. You have not received from
any thing. You ARE, and you are all of consciousness. There
is no thing, so to speak, outside of you.
GARY: You draw energy to be here. Where does that energy
come from?
ELIAS: It IS. Energy is all-encompassing. It is, and
— in your terms — has always been, and shall always be. These are
your terms, for you incorporate a thought process and a reality physically
which incorporates time in a linear fashion.
There is no past. There is no future. All which is, is now,
and all that is in consciousness is YOU. (Pause)
You have created intricate belief systems to be offering yourselves
explanations that you understand within physical terms, for you have created
a manifestation of a physical form. Therefore, there is an appearance
that you are singular. You incorporate one body, one persona, one
manifestation, one identification, one mode, so to speak, of movement.
You create one manifestation of probabilities at a time, in your terms.
You create singularly, and you have created this quite purposefully
to be experiencing this type of manifestation, this type of exploration.
You also are manifest within every other area of consciousness, for you
ARE every other area of consciousness.
This which you identify as yourself is one focus of attention.
You even mirror consciousness within this one focus of attention, in your
ability to focus your attention in many different directions simultaneously
in this physical dimension. You direct your attention within your
physical manifestation in many areas simultaneously, and this also is a
mirror of all of consciousness.
Your very physical manifestation is a mirror of essence. You may
incorporate several actions simultaneously. Essence focuses attention
in countless directions simultaneously, but they are all elements of the
essence, and essence is merely a designation or an identification of a
personality signature, so to speak, of consciousness, a unique element
of consciousness, but is not separated.
GARY: What is the importance of a healthy
physical self?
ELIAS: This would be a relative question. It is relative
to your intent and your direction within a particular focus.
Within your society, within your belief systems, you place great value
upon physical health, but this is merely a choice.
There may not necessarily be an importance to holding health, within
your identification of it in physical terms, if this be not your intent
for your experience within this focus.
This be the reason that there are individuals manifest within your physical
dimension who do NOT incorporate physical health in the manner that you
identify as good. This be the reason also that individuals may create
dis-ease and NOT move in the direction of cure.
Some individuals DO incorporate that type of movement, to be creating
a dis-ease within their physical manifestation and to be uncreating that
physical disease within the same manifestation, and this is an experimentation
also, and is created for the reason of the individual and what they choose
to be experiencing and experimenting with within this physical dimension.
Some individuals choose to be incorporating different elements of dis-ease
or dysfunction quite purposefully, and do not alter their manifestation
throughout their focus.
Therefore, this question is quite relative to the individual and their
perception and their beliefs and their intent and their direction of their
manifestation within their physical focus.
It is, once again, an example of mass belief
systems that express guidelines that you “should” be manifesting in a particular
manner, and this is acceptable, and there are certain expressions of manifestations
that are not acceptable within your officially accepted reality.
And this shall bring us full circle to our discussion of these terms
of patience and acceptance and TOLERANCE, which is the one term that we
have not been discussing this day.
Tolerance is a term that you interchange many times with acceptance,
and these are very different expressions. Tolerance is NOT an expression
of acceptance.
We shall break, and we shall resume our discussion subsequently.
GROUP: Thank you.
ELIAS: You are very welcome. (Chuckling)
BREAK: 3:58 PM
RESUME: 5:20 PM (Arrival time is 14 seconds)
ELIAS: Continuing. Now; as to the subject matter of tolerance.
You view tolerance to be a noble expression. You strive to be
expressing tolerance in conjunction with other individuals, and also at
times with yourself, and as I have stated, you equate tolerance with acceptance.
If you are being tolerant, you are also being accepting, and I shall express
to you, these are very different expressions.
You may be tolerating of behaviors or actions or situations, but tolerance
is an expression of temporary. Acceptance is enduring.
Tolerance is an area of expression that you may allow yourself to move
into temporarily with yourself or with other individuals, and even with
situations and circumstances.
You allow yourselves to move in conjunction with certain aspects of
your reality and not be struggling against them temporarily with an anticipation
or an expectation of an alteration, a change.
You may be tolerating of another individual or hold tolerance in conjunction
with another individual temporarily, and also be holding an underlying
expectation and anticipation that there shall be incorporated a change
of some element that shall allow you to be accepting. Tolerance incorporates
expectations and anticipations. Therefore, it is not synonymous with
acceptance.
Acceptance is the lack of judgment, and also incorporates a lack of
expectation, for acceptance is a genuine expression of “it matters not.”
“It matters not” is not incorporated into tolerance, for there IS a mattering
in your expressions in the area of tolerance.
There also is an underlying expression that accompanies tolerance.
If you are tolerant in conjunction with a specific group of individuals,
you are also intolerant of another group of individuals, or you are intolerant
of certain expressions in conjunction with different individuals.
As you incorporate tolerance in certain areas with yourself, you also incorporate
intolerance with other areas of yourself.
Acceptance is not partial. Acceptance is inclusive, and is incorporated
into all expressions and areas of yourself. It is not separating
or excluding of any of your creations or your expressions.
You may be expressing ideas and even behaviors of tolerance in conjunction
with other individuals, and you may express to yourselves an acknowledgment
of your nobility in these types of expressions and behaviors, and you may
be expressing to yourselves that you are quite good that you are expressing
of certain elements of tolerance, and that other individuals are deserving
of your tolerance.
This creates even more of an expression of nobility within you, and
you may elevate yourselves to saintliness in your nobility, that you may
be incorporating such tolerance in situations and in conjunction with other
individuals, or that you may be incorporating tolerance of yourself.
Now; I shall express to you that your incorporation of tolerance to
self is quite different than your incorporation of tolerance to other individuals.
Your incorporation of tolerance to self is a shifting of attention,
turning your attention from one area that may appear unacceptable, within
your perception, into another area of your expressions that you may be
acknowledging of yourself within. This offers you an expression of
partial validation.
I am not expressing that the action of tolerance is bad. I am
merely offering you an explanation, that you may hold within your objective
awareness more clarity as to WHAT you are creating as you incorporate these
three actions.
Therefore, you shall not be deluding yourselves or fooling yourselves
into the thought processes that you are moving into expressions of acceptance
in your behaviors and your expressions when you are not.
This allows you the opportunity of less misunderstanding of your own
behaviors, and allows you to recognize what you ARE creating in your expressions
and your behaviors.
As you express outwardly your definition and your evaluation of tolerance
that you assess you “offer” to other individuals, you are also creating
judgments, and this is not an expression of acceptance.
You express that the action of tolerance is good and intolerance is
bad, and as you express your temporary movement in the action of tolerance,
you hold expectations that either the situation shall alter, you shall
alter your perception in conjunction with the situation, or another individual
shall alter. Therefore, you nobly afford them the expression of tolerance
temporarily, but there is an expectation that accompanies this action.
You may look to a religious group of individuals. You may express
to yourself, “I am quite tolerant of these individuals and their choice
of expression. It is non-affecting of me.” But as you move
into your definition and your designation of how you are tolerant of those
individuals, as you encounter another individual that is not affording
that same expression, there is a judgment placed. There is an automatic
lack of acceptance.
The expectation is that tolerance is right, partially. The expectation
also is that within your perception, other individuals shall follow your
expression, for your expression is tolerant, and tolerant is right.
Therefore, there is an assessment of how each individual shall be creating
their reality, and there is a reinforcement of duplicity in these expressions.
Now; I offer to you this information in conjunction with tolerance quite
specifically, for within this time framework, as you ARE aware that there
is great movement in energy and there are many expressions of what you
would term to be upheaval and much conflict, there is a leaning of many
individuals in the direction of the expression, “I may not be moving into
an expression of acceptance. Therefore, I shall move into the middle
step of tolerance first, and this shall move me into the expression of
acceptance.” Expectation, once again.
This is important. Each time you are expressing to yourself or
to any other individual that you are moving in the direction of tolerance,
you also attach an expectation. Tolerance is a temporary expression
with an expectation of an outcome. Tolerance is not necessarily an
expression that shall automatically move you into an expression of acceptance.
I am not, as I have stated, expressing that your creation of tolerance
is bad. It is not, but it may be camouflaging of certain movements
in energy with you. It may camouflage beliefs that you do not allow
yourselves to objectively view.
Let me offer you an example.
You may express to yourselves that you hold tolerance in the area of
a group of individuals that may be manifest within a particular race.
Within the framework of this society that you occupy — this physical location,
this country, this political association that you hold in this particular
reality of your society — in that framework and context, let us express
that all of you present within this room may be expressing that you hold
tolerance to individuals of African race.
Now; attached to that tolerance that you so generously afford to these
individuals that manifest in the design of the race of African, there is
an expectation that this is right, and therefore other individuals should
be following this same expression.
Therefore, we introduce another individual into your group that may
hold different alignment of beliefs, and this individual may not be expressing
tolerance in conjunction with those individuals manifest of African descent.
This individual holds very strong beliefs and is expressing those beliefs
in opposition to the manifestation of the individuals of African descent.
Your response, in conjunction with your tolerance and your expectation,
is to be turning to this individual and expressing a tremendous lack of
acceptance — and judgment — and expressing that they are wrong, that they
are bad, and they are unacceptable.
The individual is no more acceptable or unacceptable than the individual
that you hold tolerance to. They are the same, and in the context
of the lack of separation of consciousness, they are YOU.
Your expressions of tolerance or the lack of tolerance are mirror expressions
of your acceptance or lack of acceptance of self.
Those areas, those behaviors, those expressions that you deem within
yourself to be acceptable and right and good, those are mirrored in your
expressions of tolerance. Those areas of self that you deem to be
the “dark side” of yourselves, those are unacceptable and not tolerated,
and these are expressed outwardly to other individuals in an expression
of a lack of tolerance.
This moves in the direction of preference, which is influenced by your
beliefs also. Your beliefs move in quite specific directions, and
in those directions you create preferences, and within those preferences,
some elements of your reality are good and some are bad. Some are
deserving of your noble expression of tolerance, and some are not.
You shall not be tolerant of the individual that strikes another individual.
You shall be tolerant of the individual stricken, but you shall not be
tolerant of the individual striking. They are merely choices.
There are no victims.
Each time you place yourself in the position of a victim, you limit
your choices, for you are not creating your reality any longer, in your
perception. Some other element of reality is creating it for you
— a situation, a circumstance, another individual.
I express to you, you are creating all of your reality, and you are
also creating of all of your choices, to be limiting or not to be limiting.
But I also offer to you the suggestion that you allow yourselves to
be noticing and allow yourselves an awareness of self — of your automatic
movement and actions and behaviors in these time frameworks of much movement
of energy and acceleration of this shift — in your expressions of tolerance,
and do not confuse your expressions of tolerance with an assessment of
acceptance, for they are quite different.
Are you wishing of questions?
JOE: Elias, I have one thing. How may focuses in this room
are involved with each other in other focuses or in some sort of counterpart
action?
ELIAS: All of you hold involvement within other focuses.
You all engage in counterpart action, but not necessarily with each other.
In this particular room, there is a counterpart action which is incorporated
with these two individuals, of your partner and your relation. (Indicating
Naomi and Brad, and there is a pause)
JOE: Could you explain that a little further? (Laughter)
JUSTIN: Before you explain, can we do a tape change?
ELIAS: You may.
Tape change: 5:48 PM
Resume: 5:49 PM
JUSTIN: Okay, we’re ready.
ELIAS: Very well. I shall clarify. (Laughter) Your
partner ...
JOE: Naomi.
ELIAS: Correct. ... holds counterpart action with familial
relation — yourself. (Indicating Brad) You hold counterpart action
with each other in this focus.
NAOMI: Us three? (Indicating herself, Brad, and Justin)
ELIAS: No. These two individuals.
NAOMI: Us two? (Indicating herself and Brad)
ELIAS: Correct. In this, you offer each other different
elements of experience, through assimilation within consciousness subjectively,
as you each choose different types of experiences, and as each of you do
NOT choose different experiences.
Therefore, what I am expressing is, qualities that each of you hold
latently are expressed through the other, and this offers you both the
benefit, so to speak, of the experience of these qualities in essence.
There are certain qualities that you (indicating Naomi) manifest within
this particular focus that your counterpart action with you (indicating
Brad) do not actualize physically.
You (indicating Naomi) express certain physical qualities that are latent
or not chosen with your (indicating Brad) focus, but you offer yourself
the benefit of the experiences through the counterpart action, and this
counterpart action moves between both of you.
There are certain expressions physically that are expressed by you (indicating
Naomi) that offer a difference in your (indicating Brad) understanding
of certain manifestations, and offer you more of an ease in movement into
acceptance in some areas in conjunction with the qualities that are expressed
with you (indicating Naomi).
The action of counterparts is to be offering different experiences without
actual manifestation of those experiences within one particular focus.
This would be quite inefficient, were you to be physically experiencing
every aspect of this physical reality within each manifestation of essence.
Essence would be manifesting billions and billions and billions of focuses
within this dimension in every time framework to be experiencing all of
the aspects of the designs of experiences of this physical dimension.
This is quite inefficient.
Therefore, essences focus a limited amount, so to speak, of focuses
in different time frameworks in this dimension, and incorporate countless
actions of counterparts which offer the benefit of the experience without
the actual manifestation physically. (Pause) There are more methods
than one to be experiencing within your physical dimension! (Grinning)
GARY: So you’re saying that people can be counterparts for short
periods of time?
ELIAS: You may. There are many different designs of counterpart
action.
Some individuals are creating a counterpart action with another individual,
and that individual does not incorporate the same counterpart action in
reverse, so to speak. Some individuals incorporate counterpart action
throughout an entire focus. Some individuals create counterpart action
merely temporarily; some intermittently throughout a focus. There
are counterpart actions that occur between focuses. You may be incorporating
some elements of counterpart action with other focuses of your essence.
You incorporate counterpart action with other essences. There are
many crossovers, so to speak, in this action.
Counterparts are not individuals. It is an action that occurs
between individuals and essences to be offering the benefit of experiences.
CARLOS: Elias, may I ask you something? How many more focuses
do I have in this reality? Can I guess?
ELIAS: You may.
CARLOS: Five?
ELIAS: In this particular time framework, yes, you are correct,
and with yourself inclusive is totaling six.
LENORA: Let me ask you one. Is this my last reincarnation?
ELIAS: HA HA HA! Shall we be opening a new can of worms,
so to speak, (everybody cracks up) and a new aspect of religious belief
systems? Ha ha ha!
I shall express to you, no, this is not your final reincarnational focus,
for you do not hold ANY reincarnational focuses, for you do not reincarnate!
(Grinning) All of your focuses are manifest simultaneously NOW.
Are you the designation of the final focus of essence within this particular
dimension? Yes.
LENORA: Okay.
ELIAS: This is not to say that any other manifestation in this
dimension of your essence shall be remanifest, for it shall not, for no
focus remanifests, for there is no reincarnation.
At the moment that any individual focus chooses to be disengaging from
this physical dimension, it chooses also to be moving into other areas
of consciousness. It does not repeat and remanifest within this physical
dimension. This would be quite redundant and quite unnecessary!
You are manifesting many focuses of essence within this physical dimension.
Therefore, it is unnecessary for any particular focus to be remanifesting
into this physical dimension.
There is no reincarnation. There is no karma. Therefore,
there is no cycle of learning and movement to a higher plane, and there
is no cycle of debt that needs be worked through.
You hold complete freedom within your focus. The only limitations
that you hold within any focus are those that you place before yourself
in conjunction with your individual beliefs.
GARY: But if we have complete freedom, then isn’t it possible
that we could decide to incarnate again?
ELIAS: In what you may term to be the realm of possibility, yes.
I shall express to you that you do not, for it is unnecessary. There
is limitless consciousness to be exploring within self.
Therefore, as you incorporate an exploration of this one physical dimension,
why shall you be creating a redundant action and repeating your exploration,
as you ARE essence and you ARE experiencing all of your other focuses within
this physical dimension also?
GARY: Possibly because some of them aren’t as right as others?
ELIAS: Ah, not so! (Chuckling)
TONY: Are you saying, from what I gather, that all things are
happening at the same time?
ELIAS: Correct.
TONY: All things that have ever happened are happening now.
So, our essence can express in physical form, and simultaneously in certain
others? Is that correct?
ELIAS: And IS.
TONY: It IS happening that way. Okay. So, it really
comes down to, it doesn’t really matter....
ELIAS: Quite! I offer one point for your observation, and
this is what I have been expressing many, many, many times. It matters
not!
You manifest within this physical dimension to experience. You
have no mission. You have no quest. You have no higher plane
to attain to. You manifest for the experience.
TONY: I like that! (Elias chuckles)
WARREN: Elias, I have a question. This is Warren.
Do you have contemporaries in your dimension?
ELIAS: All of you, and many beyond. (Grinning)
WARREN: Well, one thing I was wondering
about, that being the case, in the dimension that I’m in, there are a lot
of people who would be skeptical of the energy transfer we’re experiencing.
I was wondering if beings in your dimension ... how they feel about an
energy transfer to our dimension from your dimension.
ELIAS: Let me express to you, I am not a being from another dimension,
in the terms that you are placing this ...
WARREN: Well, I understand that....
ELIAS: ... and for clarification, that there be no misunderstanding
or element of distortion, the difference between myself and yourself is
merely that I incorporate a remembrance and you do not, for you have chosen,
within the manifestation of this physical dimension, to be forgetting and
to be separating, within your objective awareness, your remembrance.
In this, I hold an awareness that there are individuals that you may
classify as skeptical or doubting of the validity of this energy exchange.
I express to you that this is not an unusual expression within your physical
dimension, in conjunction with your belief systems. You hold doubtfulness
of yourselves! Why shall you not be doubtful of myself also?
WARREN: Good point.
ELIAS: In this, as to your inquiry of my view or what you term
to be my contemporaries’ view of your dimension, the expression of skeptical
holds no relevance, for there is an awareness of essence in the area, so
to speak, of consciousness that I project energy from, and in this, there
is an awareness of the remembrance of essence. Therefore, it is unquestioned,
for it is a reality!
You are. You exist. You manipulate energy. You are
a manifestation of consciousness. There is nothing to question in
this, for it is a reality. You merely do not incorporate your remembrance.
Therefore, you continue to search for your explanations of reality and
of self. Once you are allowing yourself to be recognizing and accepting
of self, you also shall incorporate the remembrance, and you need not be
nonphysical to be incorporating this action.
And this is the point of this shift in consciousness, that you have
chosen within this particular dimension to be incorporating your remembrance
in conjunction with your physical reality, which shall allow you greater
freedom and an exceptional expression of your creativity.
WARREN: I think I understand. (Elias chuckles) This is still
Warren, and I’m asking another question, if I may.
ELIAS: You may.
WARREN: From my perspective, as limited as it is, it seems to
me that your transfer of energy from your dimension to our dimension is
... I would consider that to be somewhat of a mission. From my perspective,
it would be like an educational mission.
ELIAS: It is an answer.
Collectively, in the movement of this shift in consciousness, as you
have begun an objective recognition of this shift, you also within consciousness
have created a request. You have asked. You have asked for
information that you are not incorporating in remembrance.
You have asked for helpfulness in understanding objectively of what
you are creating, that you may lessen the incorporation of trauma within
the action of this shift in consciousness, and in that request, in that
asking, essences are responding.
This essence of myself is one of the essences that is responsive to
your request, in offering information to you to be helpful in the lessening
of the incorporation of trauma within this shift in consciousness.
Many individuals may not be experiencing a tremendous expression of
trauma presently, but you are also offering an expression of energy to
those individuals that ARE incorporating tremendous trauma presently.
Your acquisition of information that you allow to be assimilated lends
to the movement within consciousness to be lessening the trauma that other
individuals are experiencing or shall be experiencing, and also lessens
or eliminates your own incorporation of trauma within the action of this
shift.
There IS trauma being experienced within the action of this shift in
consciousness. You that draw yourselves to this information incorporate
tremendous confusion. Those individuals that do not avail themselves
objectively of information in this type of manner incorporate a tremendous
lack of objective understanding, and this incorporates trauma.
You objectively, desirously move in the direction of acceptance and
into the movement of this shift in consciousness. You seek out information
which lends to your individual expressions and abilities to be moving in
harmony with the energy of this shift in consciousness, and you experience
tremendous confusion and conflict and difficulty. Think to yourselves
of the individuals within your dimension upon your planet that do not avail
themselves of information objectively.
They are experiencing the same shift. They are incorporating the
same experiences. Many of them are experiencing this shift in consciousness
much more in extreme, in objective terms, and believe themselves to be
experiencing lunacy, for it is unfamiliar to them, and they do not hold
an objective explanation or understanding.
As I speak to you, I also speak to the potentiality of all of the individuals
within your physical dimension that you shall incorporate an affectingness
of. Therefore, as you avail yourself of this information, you also
create, in a manner of speaking objectively, a channel for many, many,
many other individuals to be incorporating this information, and as this
action occurs within energy, you alter probabilities, and you divert those
probabilities that you view to be devastation from being inserted into
your officially accepted reality, and you set into motion more of the movement
of acceptance and less and less trauma.
You wish to be moving through your creations in this physical focus
without conflict, and you are moving in this direction as you allow yourselves
to be understanding yourselves — who you are and what you are, and what
you create and how you create within your reality — and this allows you
an acceptance of yourselves.
TONY: This is Tony again. You spoke about remembrance,
and I was wondering, how do you know the difference between taking on or
choosing the remembrance versus leaving this plane in the physical form?
ELIAS: A remembrance, or THE remembrance, is a state of being.
Therefore, you are moving in a correct direction, so to speak, figuratively
speaking, in your inquiry.
The remembrance shall be incorporated into this physical reality.
Therefore, you shall continue to be incorporating the action of this physical
reality. Physical reality holds very different qualities from nonphysical
realities.
You shall continue to be creating this reality in a linear time framework.
You shall continue to hold beliefs. You shall continue to be manifest
in solidity physically and create your reality in conjunction with physical
manifestations, but you shall also allow yourself the objective awareness
of your abilities to manipulate energy. You shall allow yourself
the awareness objectively of what you are. You shall allow yourself
more freedom within your choices.
You may choose to be incorporating a reality in the manner that you
are creating reality now, or you may choose to be incorporating very different
elements of your reality. You may allow yourself much more freedom
of movement within consciousness. You shall continue to direct your
attention in this physical reality, but you shall also allow yourself temporary
movement in and out, so to speak, of other realities. You shall also
recognize that it IS this physical reality and the creation of this shift
in consciousness, for other physical realities shall not necessarily hold
the same awareness of you that you hold of them.
This shift in consciousness is a design of this dimension. It
is not incorporating of all of consciousness. YOU have designed this
as a source event within THIS reality. Therefore, within this dimension,
this universe, it is incorporated as a reality, but this is not to say
that it is a reality within other physical dimensions.
TONY: Would such a shift be recognized by those around me that
know me now?
ELIAS: Yes.
TONY: It would be?
ELIAS: Yes. Let me express to you, all individuals ...
TONY: That’s a little frightening, in my beliefs!
ELIAS: ... upon your planet are recognizing of some aspects of
the movement of this shift in consciousness. They may not objectively
hold the same awareness that you hold, but all of the individuals upon
your planet hold some element of awareness of this shift in consciousness,
and as you widen your awareness, it shall become noticeable objectively
to other individuals. This is a natural byproduct, and it shall matter
not! (Grinning, and laughter)
TONY: That’s right! It shall matter not! (Laughing)
Thank you.
ELIAS: Ha ha ha! You are quite welcome!
I shall be disengaging this evening, and I shall be anticipating interaction
with you all once again.
To you this day, in a tremendous expression of affection, and in my
expression of acceptance that you may incorporate within yourselves, I
bid, lovingly, au revoir.
GROUP: Au revoir. Thank you.
Elias departs at 6:25 PM.
FOOTNOTES:
(1) I have done the best I can to indicate which
person Elias is indicating at which time in this explanation, but it’s
been difficult because they were sitting right next to each other.
I will also take this opportunity to say that I guessed at who was speaking
at times throughout this transcript. So, there may be errors in this
area.
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