Thursday, September 16, 1999-1
© 2000 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Joe (Holden).
Elias arrives at 10:07 AM. (Arrival time is 15 seconds)
ELIAS: Good morning!
JOE: Good morning!
ELIAS: We meet again, my friend!
JOE: Yes, we do! (Elias chuckles) Elias, today, if you would be willing, I would like to devote this session to questions that were given to me by other folks to ask you. Would that be okay?
JOE: Okay. The girl’s name is Crizi. She lives in New Jersey, and she has a lot of questions here that have to do with herself and her immediate family. The first question is ... she has a very bad lower back, and it says here, “It is so bad at times that I find it hard to do my daily chores due to the pain. Can you ask him, what is the root of this created illness? I have tried to work with my belief systems, and I can’t seem to pinpoint which one of my beliefs is the root of it.” Now, Crizi is also a member of SNI and she’s read the Seth material and she’s real familiar with the belief system sort of thing, so if you could answer that first question, I’d appreciate it.
ELIAS: Very well. Now; I express to you that many individuals create this type of physical affectingness, but I shall also express to you that the individual reasons, so to speak, that individuals may be holding energy in this particular location of their physical form varies tremendously.
Therefore, contrary to the existing belief systems that suggest that this specific painfulness is indicative of a specific and common manifestation of issues, in actuality, the reasons — in a manner of speaking, in your terms — vary as much as the expressions vary between each individual.
In this, this particular individual holds a tremendous element of energy in this physical location of the physical body form in conjunction with certain issues in the area of beliefs concerning needs and self acceptance.
Now; this is not an expression of personal responsibility which is held for other individuals outwardly. This is directly related to the individual assessment of self, the acceptance of self, and the beliefs which are projected into perceived needs.
Now; let me also express to you that this term “need” is in itself an aspect of belief systems, for in actuality, there are no needs within your physical dimension. This is one of the expressions that you have developed into a reality in your physical focus collectively in the identification of absolutes. You believe that you hold needs within your physical dimension, and this has become a perceived absolute. I express to you and to this individual, there are no absolutes, and needs are not an absolute either.
In this, the needs that are perceived in this individual are what may be gained, in a physical manner of speaking, through the expressions of other individuals that may replace what is lacking in the individual herself in acceptance of self. This also quite strongly taps into the assessment of worth of self.
Now; these are very elusive subjects, for objectively and surfacely, in a manner of speaking, individuals express to themselves and to other individuals that they do not hold issues in these areas, so to speak — that they view themselves as being accepting of self and that they hold an identification of worth of self and value.
But in actuality, as the individual allows themself to turn their attention inward to self and to be examining their beliefs more closely and recognizing their beliefs, they also may offer to themselves new awarenesses in how they measure their value and their worth, and how this creates an assessment within self of the acceptance — or lack of acceptance — of self.
Now; in the situation with this particular individual, this has been an expression which has been created for a significant time framework. This is not a new creation.
As this shift progresses and as these waves in consciousness progress and intensify, the energy which is projected collectively addresses to these belief systems, and in this, intensifies the expressions of individuals in conjunction with the belief systems, which are moving in waves.
Presently, this wave in consciousness which is occurring now, addressing to the belief system of sexuality, brings forth the movement of energy, which offers individuals the opportunity to be examining all of the aspects that are contained within this particular belief system. One of the aspects of this belief system is the measurement of worth and value of self.
In this, as this particular belief system addresses to how each of you views self, how each of you interacts with self, and how that is intertwined with your interaction with other individuals, circumstances, and your world, in a manner of speaking, this is a very STRONG belief system and holds tremendous energy, and in this, individuals that manifest different expressions of energy in relation to any of these aspects of this particular belief system shall be experiencing increase in intensity of their expressions.
Therefore, in this situation with this individual, there is a perceived increase in the painfulness within this particular physical body expression. This draws the individual’s attention to expressions that they create themselves, and offers each of you the opportunity to view more clearly what you each are creating within your reality in conjunction and through influence of these aspects of your belief systems.
Now; I am quite aware that many of you do not view these expressions as “opportunities,” (chuckling) and that this may be viewed as a positive turning of your language in addressing to what you view as quite negative expressions. I express to you that it is merely an identification of what you are creating within your reality.
As you move in this time framework presently, you all are presenting yourselves, in very objective manners, the opportunities to view all of these aspects of belief systems, and therefore also offering yourselves the opportunity to widen your awareness, open to your periphery, and to be accepting of these belief systems.
Now; in this movement, prior to the acceptance of belief systems, individuals shall be turning their attention to self first, for if you are not addressing to self first and if you are not allowing yourselves to be accepting of self first, you shall create tremendous obstacles and conflict and difficulty in your movement into acceptance of belief systems.
Now; I wish to be clear in this discussion that there are no absolutes. Therefore, what I am expressing to you is not concrete, so to speak, or written in stone.
But I shall express the severity of the situation by explaining to you that the movement into acceptance of self is so VERY important that it may be classified almost as a prerequisite to the acceptance of belief systems.
Be remembering, I am not expressing an absolute. Therefore, the window remains that you may be moving into the acceptance of aspects of belief systems and not necessarily be accomplishing fully the acceptance of self.
But with respect to how you have already created your officially accepted reality and the strength of the existing belief systems and the automatic expressions of these belief systems to the point that they require no thought process in their expressions and in their influence, it IS almost a prerequisite or a requirement for each of you to be accepting of self before you shall allow yourselves to be moving into the acceptance of beliefs.
This is a key point, for this individual, in like manner to many, many, many individuals ... and as I am expressing many individuals, I am expressing millions and millions of individuals, not merely a few!
The expression or the attention moves in the direction of looking to the identification of aspects of belief systems, and the assessment is created that if you may be addressing to a specific belief system and identifying a specific belief system or a specific aspect of a belief system and eliminating this aspect of the belief system or the belief system itself, you shall be “home free,” in your terms, and I am expressing to you quite emphatically, this is not the point!
This is not the direction that I am offering you information to be understanding of the movement that you are creating. In this, as the individual turns their attention to self first, the movement proceeds in the direction of addressing to the acceptance and trust of self.
Now; this is much more expansive than you as individuals recognize objectively, for you look to this type of statement, and your thought process or idea of the definition of acceptance of self is very narrow.
What I am expressing to you is that acceptance of self is the recognition that there is no element of yourself that is unacceptable, that is broken, that is wrong, that needs be fixed, that needs be eliminated! You each are quite in perfect working order!
In this ... excuse. (Here, Elias gets a rather exasperated look on his face and starts coughing. The coughing lasts for 16 seconds, and there is an additional 8-second pause.)
I shall be addressing to Michael individually in this situation of his perceived inability to be holding within this energy exchange, and you shall excuse this temporary interruption. We shall continue.
As you each look to self objectively, you do not allow yourselves to view all of the elements that you involve in assessing your measurement of worth. This be the reason also why you hold difficulty in addressing to certain creations that you engage objectively in the area of physical manifestations.
Now; in this, as the individual continues to divert her attention into the area of looking to specific aspects of beliefs initially, this becomes a distraction and also creates confusion, for objectively, the individual expresses to themself and to other individuals, “I am addressing to my beliefs. I am viewing my beliefs. Why shall I continue to be creating physical painfulness if I am addressing to beliefs?”
Now; I express to you, first of all, the beliefs are not being addressed to yet.
Previously I have offered the identification of the method that you all collectively create in your movement into acceptance of belief systems, and in this, I have offered the identification of the steps which you move into and through in this process that you have established within yourselves.
In this, I have expressed that initially, within your step one, you allow yourselves to notice. You notice behaviors, you notice creations, you notice coincidences, you notice many different types of imagery and expressions. This is your step one.
Your step two is the identification and recognition of what you have been noticing. This is the step in which you identify the imagery, the creations, the expressions, and you recognize the aspect of the belief system that the imagery correlates to. This is your most extensive step, and the one step that occupies the most time framework in your process.
Your step three is the movement into addressing to the aspect of the belief system. This is the movement into letting go of the energy that you concentrate in the perpetuation or feeding of the particular aspect of the belief system.
Step four is your movement into “it matters not” genuinely, and this is the acceptance of the aspect or of the belief system.
Now; within step two, you create great confusion and conflict, and as the conflict continues, this is your indication objectively to yourselves that you continue within step two. You are continuing to be identifying and recognizing.
As you move into step three of addressing to and moving through, letting go of the energy, your conflict begins to lessen and your confusion clears. This is your objective indication to yourselves that you have moved into your step three of your process, for the conflict that you experience becomes less and less, and you move closer and closer to the genuine expression of “it matters not.”
Now; this particular individual, of which we are addressing to, continues to be within step two, identifying and recognizing, drifting between step one and step two, moving back into step one at times in noticing different expressions of imagery and behaviors, and moving once again into the process of step two.
But in this movement, she is also creating a type of distraction, for she is moving in the direction of directing her attention to specific areas of belief systems and NOT paying attention to the expression of assessment of self-worth and value of self, how that is measured by herself, and what expectations are projected by herself to self and to other individuals to allow herself the acquisition of acceptance.
In this, as there is an expression of a lack of acceptance of self, there is a turning of attention to outside of self, that she may acquire the perceived need of acceptance outwardly through the expressions of other individuals, and that this shall replace the acceptance of self.
In a manner of speaking, I may suggest to you a visualization or a small analogy to illustrate this situation with this individual. This individual may view themselves as a hole within the sand near the shore of your ocean.
Now; the hole is very deep, and the hole may fill itself with water, and be continuously filling itself with water and with its own sand. But in this scenario that this individual is creating, she looks outside of self as an individual standing upon the sand, continuously shoveling other sand into the hole. But as relentless as she may be in continuing to fill the hole with sand outside of the hole, it shall never fill the hole, for the water continues to pull the sand inward, and therefore the hole continues.
(Leaning forward intently) The point is that the sand moves upward from the hole itself, mixed with the water, and shall fill the hole from the inside, not by replacing the sand from the outside.
In this, as the individual continues to attempt to fill the hole from the outside, the outside continues in its tide to wash away the sand that is being placed into the hole, for it belongs with the outside. Are you following?
ELIAS: Therefore, I express to the individual to be turning her attention to self first, recognizing that within her beliefs, there are held perceived needs that are required for herself by other individuals’ expressions, and in the presentment of no painfulness and health, the perception is held that these needs shall not be met.
But in the expression of woundedness, there is an offering of self that perceives that other individuals shall be offering expressions of concern, nurturing, comfort, understanding, acceptance, which is not being provided by self.
But this also perpetuates the painfulness within the physical body expression, for there is a continuation of energy held in this area to be a continuous reminder that this issue is not being addressed to, but that there is also simultaneously a desire to be addressing to this issue.
In this, as the individual turns the attention to self, there are two key elements to be remembering. One is, all that shall be provided in acceptance shall come from self and shall be offered by self.
In this, SHE creates her reality, not other individuals. This is a very strong key!
I am quite understanding that individuals audibly hear these words and express, “Yes, yes, yes, I am understanding.” And I am expressing, no, no, no, you are not understanding! Now LISTEN to these words: YOU CREATE YOUR REALITY, not other individuals!
Therefore, your assessment of your worth is created by YOU, not by other individuals. Your expression of acceptance is created by YOU, not by other individuals. Your creations of your reality — your behaviors, your expressions — are created by YOU; are not dictated by other individuals.
Your reality is your responsibility, and there is no element of it that you do not create. No element of it is created by any other individual. It is all YOUR CHOICE.
This is the first point and key — the responsibility of “you create your reality.” The second point is the sapling.
JOE: What was that?
ELIAS: The sapling.
In this, many, many, many individuals hold a reverse perception in the area of how energy moves efficiently, especially in the area of physical manifestations, of physical affectingnesses within your body form.
The perception held objectively is that if you are the convoluted little sapling, you shall receive helpfulness from other individuals and from self and that you shall receive all that you need, so to speak, but as the straight little sapling, you shall not receive.
Now; this is a reverse thought process in relation to the actual movement of energy, for in the movement of energy, as you more and more become the straight little sapling, concerning yourselves with self, not engaging personal responsibility for all of the other convoluted little saplings, you radiate an energy which attracts and draws to yourselves all of the energy and expressions that you perceive you want.
But as you are creating of the expression of the convoluted little sapling, you do not draw to yourselves the expressions that you want, for you draw to yourselves mirror imagery and like energy.
Therefore, if you are expressing the movement of the straight little sapling and radiating this glory of self and acceptance of self, you shall also draw to you the gloriousness of these types of expressions. If you are creating the convoluted little sapling, you shall draw to you the expressions of other convoluted little saplings.
These are two very key points in addressing to acceptance of self and acceptance of beliefs.
I shall also offer in addition in this discussion, acceptance of beliefs is very similar to the action of acceptance of self.
In this, allow yourselves to be viewing in this manner, for this word of acceptance in relation to belief systems creates great confusion within the thought process of many, many individuals. I express to you, allow yourselves to hold the thought process that the acceptance of belief systems is very similar to the acceptance of self.
In the acceptance of self, you are not eliminating self, are you? Of course not! You do not express to yourself, “If I shall eliminate self, I shall be accepting of self, and therefore all worries shall be vanquished.” This is quite ludicrous! No, you are not eliminating of self! Acceptance is not an elimination of ANY element of your reality.
Therefore, in like manner, as you look to the action of acceptance of belief systems, you are not eliminating belief systems either, just as you are not eliminating self to be accepting of self.
In this, you may offer this information to this individual, and you may also offer to this individual my invitation, if she is so choosing, that she may engage myself and we may further hold discussion of this situation that she has created within her reality, for what I have offered to you this day is an overview, and there are many elements in this creation that are held beyond the objective viewing but that may be attended to in discussion.
This may offer her the opportunity to view different behaviors that she creates individually within her expression of her reality that may allow her the opportunity to view more fully how she is creating her reality, and how she may turn her attention in this viewing of self and acceptance of self and may be quite altering of the physical expression. Is this sufficient?
JOE: Elias, as usual, I think it was absolutely excellent! Now, she wants to know what ... and I mean not just excellent for her, but I mean excellent for me and probably for everybody else who is going to read this transcript. I think that was great, just absolutely great! But anyway, she wants to know what her essence name and her family of consciousness and her alignment is. (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Jako; J-A-K-O. (jae’koe) Essence family, Milumet; alignment in this focus, Tumold.
JOE: Okay. Now, she gave me a list here of a bunch of relatives, and she would like to know the same: their essence family — the family of consciousness — their essence name, and their alignment. The first one is Olga, who is her mom. (Pause)
ELIAS: Payze; P-A-Y-Z-E. (paze) Essence family, Sumari; alignment, Milumet.
JOE: Okay. Pilar, her sister. (Pause)
ELIAS: Kathleen. Essence family, Vold; alignment, Ilda.
JOE: Can you spell that essence name for me?
JOE: Okay. Jorge, spelled J-O-R-G-E, her brother-in-law. (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Actel; A-C-T-E-L. (ak-tel’) Essence family, Vold; alignment, Zuli.
JOE: Okay. Christy, her niece. (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Karlete; K-A-R-L-E-T-E. (car-lete’) Essence family, Sumari; alignment, Gramada.
JOE: Okay. Peter, a close family friend. (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Almma; A-L-M-M-A. (al’ma) Essence family, Sumafi; alignment, Sumari.
JOE: Okay. Richard, her boyfriend. (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, Blake; B-L-A-K-E. Essence family, Sumari; alignment, Milumet.
JOE: Okay. “Did Richard and I have other past lives together?” That’s her question. (Pause)
ELIAS: Yes, and I may be suggesting that the individual may be investigating within dream state or meditation and allowing self-accessing of this information. This shall also provide an efficient exercise in the area of acceptance of self and abilities of self.
JOE: Okay. Alrighty. Now, the next girl is Sheri, out of Olympia, Washington. Her essence name is Milde, M-I-L-D-E. She wants to know her orientation. (Pause)
ELIAS: This individual holds the orientation of soft.
JOE: Soft, okay. Which focus of similar tone can she best access? (Pause)
ELIAS: I shall express that there may be accessed one focus in the time framework of early seventeen hundreds in the physical location of southern Chili. The individual within this focus is female, and expresses an awareness of self and of abilities within physical focus in relation to essence. This individual holds a great awareness, in that time framework, outside of the accepted belief systems and traditions. This individual does not necessarily objectively express their abilities in relation to other individuals publicly, so to speak, for there is held an awareness that this is unacceptable within the officially accepted reality, but this individual lends energy quite efficiently to this present focus in offering an expression that moves in the direction of lending an ease to the widening of awareness within this shift in consciousness presently. Quite a colorful individual in that particular focus....
JOE: You did say that the girl was a female in south Chili, right?
ELIAS: Quite amiable also, in your physical terms.
You may also be directing her to be investigating of another focus which may be easily accessed, in European location of Switzerland in the mountainous region of the Alps. This individual is male and of younger age presently. This individual also lends energy to this particular focus presently in an openness to exploration, and you may also add playfully that she may enjoy viewing the goats! (Chuckling)
JOE: Can you say that again? The goats?
ELIAS: She may enjoy viewing the goats! Ha ha ha ha!
JOE: Okay, alright. Now, she has a friend named Chris and a friend named Bill, and that’s the only information she gave me on these two folks, and she would like to know if you can tell her their essence names, families, and orientations.
ELIAS: Very well. First individual, essence name, Floura; F-L-O-U-R-A. (flora) Essence family, Sumafi; alignment, Tumold. Second individual, essence name, Raynier; R-A-Y-N-I-E-R. (rain’yer)
JOE: What was the first letter, Elias?
JOE: Okay, I got it.
ELIAS: Essence family, Tumold; alignment, Ilda.
JOE: Okay. Now, two daughters, Sabrina and Jenny. (Pause)
ELIAS: Essence name, first individual, Stencett; S-T-E-N-C-E-T-T. (sten-set) Essence family, Sumafi; alignment, Borledim.
Second individual ... second individual, I may offer present essence name, but I shall also express that this essence is within mergence, and this may be altered futurely in an action of fragmentation. Therefore, as I have expressed, this offering is temporary presently. Essence name, Lithah; L-I-T-H-A-H. (lee’tha) Essence family, Zuli; alignment, Milumet. Are you wishing for orientation of all four of these individuals?
JOE: Let’s see here. “The essence names, families, and orientations of my friends Chris and Bill, and my daughters.” Yes.
ELIAS: Orientation of first two individuals, common.
JOE: Okay, common. Okay.
ELIAS: Orientation of first daughter, common; second daughter, intermediate.
JOE: Alright. Now I’m going to ask one question for myself. This girl had also asked about her back, but in respect to the time element here, and Mary, I’ll either ask that at another time, or perhaps ... would you want to extend an invitation to her also to talk to you directly about that?
JOE: Okay. So when I talk to her, I’ll say that you’re offering the invitation.
Now, my question to you is this today. Have you been interacting with me subjectively, and also perhaps objectively?
ELIAS: Ha ha ha! One point!
JOE: (Laughing) Okay, that answers my question!
ELIAS: Therefore, you are noticing of my interaction with you, and not merely subjectively, but you are noticing objectively! And how do you assess my playfulness? (Laughing)
JOE: I appreciate it, Elias! I really, really do! There’s some things that have been happening that I kind of wondered about!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha! And I shall continue to be interactive with you!
JOE: I appreciate it, I really do! And as always, I want to thank you for this chance and ability to interact with you, and I’ll be talking to you again soon.
ELIAS: Very well. We shall continue our rendezvous!
JOE: Take care, my friend.
ELIAS: To you this day, my friend, I extend to you great affection, and express a very hearty adieu.
Elias departs at 11:20 AM.
Vic’s note: Occasionally I include The Sapling Story at the end of a transcript, and this seemed like an appropriate time to do so again. It really is such a beautiful story, and a great analogy too!
The Sapling Story
September 13, 1995
Session #37 (An excerpt)
I will give you a small story which you may contemplate through this week. In this, be thinking of belief systems and of connections.
My story incorporates two saplings, both exactly identical, both newly growing; one growing naturally and reaching towards the sun and basking within its rays and drinking naturally of the rain and resting to the moon.
The other is looking around and is viewing the sky and is seeing the sun and is saying to itself, “Maybe I should be growing at night. The sun is very hot. It may burn me or it may sap my energy, and the rain is very wet and it gets all over me, and I am not sure I am liking of this rain and I am not sure that it is making me grow properly, and maybe I should be investigating where this rain is coming from and I should be analyzing the sunrays to be sure that I am incorporating the proper vitamins, or maybe the moon is more friendly to my growth and I would grow taller if I am growing at nighttime, while this idiot sapling next to me is being stunted by the sun.”
And in the morning, the one sapling is stretching its newly formed branches and uncurling its soft leaves and growing within complete trust, and the other sapling in the morning is viewing the same sun and is looking at the beautifully formed other sapling and it is looking like this: (here, Elias twists his body and face into a grotesque contortion).
Now; this story is about belief systems and the noticing of these belief systems. It is also about trust and connection. It also incorporates proper personal responsibility. The one trusting sapling incorporates a genuine personal responsibility in not trying to change or help the analyzing sapling, but as it grows true and strong and trusting, it radiates an example. It shines in its essence as an example to the other sapling, and as the other sapling unconvolutes itself throughout the day, it notices the straight sapling and it chooses the focus of effortlessness and trust as being easier, for it has been shown an example. Therefore, be all the trusting straight saplings, radiating your example.
© 2000 Vicki Pendley/Mary Ennis, All Rights Reserved
Copyright 1999 Mary Ennis, All Rights Reserved.