Wednesday, December 11, 2024 (Private/In Person)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Lynda (Ruther)

EXCERPT #1

LYNDA: I got the impression that I have a potential or pretty probable focus named Joe, maybe Jeff, I think Joe, who will meet up with Lystell when he’s about 25 or 30, and they will know about my email to Lystell giving him my impression about this focus and they’ll laugh together – because it’s really easy to do that there, then – and they work at the same place. I don’t know if it’s like work in the sense that I call a job, but they are time travelers who are working on an archival project together, not to change the past but viewing it in this timeline to verify that what actually happened, happened – or something like that – and they have a lot of fun together. And Bonnie is there too, Lyla. She’s a female named Lucille or Lucinda or Lulu something, and we are all friends and working on the same project and remember each other.

I think I am nonbinary in this focus, which is why I may not have been able to tap into him until now because I have more information on the subject. I think Bonnie is female, not nonbinary.

ELIAS: (Pause) Yes to the first part.

LYNDA: Which is Joe.

ELIAS: Yes. No to the second part.

LYNDA: No to Bonnie.

ELIAS: Yes.

LYNDA: So Bonnie’s not involved.

ELIAS: Correct.

LYNDA: But his name is Joe.

ELIAS: Yes.

LYNDA: And is he nonbinary?

ELIAS: Yes.

LYNDA: So what do you think of that? Pretty fun, huh?

ELIAS: Good!

LYNDA: I love getting other focus information. It still makes me so happy because I’m into a phase where the vastness of all of us is the dearest thing, Elias. It’s just taking the sticky out of even shitty little days when I’m aggravated. (Elias chuckles) It doesn’t MATTER. It just doesn’t matter. I am a human where I am as far as evolution goes. I don’t know how much percentage of my brain I use – I don’t give a shit. I chose to be here right now, and it’s all beneficial. I think that’s what meditating is doing.

ELIAS: I would very much agree.

LYNDA: And I don’t exactly get how that works, but I have these thoughts and feelings. And, setting an intention – even if the intention is a little confusing for me because it’s like being in a candy store. There’s so much I could say, like you know, win the lottery, have money… No, I just want to be calm.

I had a day where I said, “I want to engage my pearl energy to help me facilitate being calm and fun,” and then I forgot about it and meditated to “Moonlight Sonata” and then Rachmaninoff and then somebody else – Debussy. And I got to work and I forgot about it, and all of a sudden I was being fun and funny and calm and I went, “Oh my GAWD, this is working!” (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: Yes!

EXCERPT #2

LYNDA: So… I had a pretty snarky, jealous response to my friend. [Discusses situation about friend having a new relationship]

It’s terrible to be jealous. I looked at the jealousy and snarkiness, and then I asked myself the $64,000 question, “Do you want a relationship just because they have a relationship and you don’t, Miss High School 1967?” I said, “No, I don’t.” I ended up forgiving myself for being jealous, and I decided instantly to change my behavior.

ELIAS: Which, what does that mean?

LYNDA: Stop being jealous?

ELIAS: And how do you propose to do that? The reason I am asking you these questions is that I want you to be realistic, not simply say, “I’m changing my behaviors.”

LYNDA: Okay. “Be realistic,” like do I want a relationship?

ELIAS: No. When you say, “I’m changing my behavior,” what does that mean? What are you changing it to and how are you doing that?

LYNDA: Well, ideally…

ELIAS: No, no.

LYNDA: First, I’m looking at the response.

ELIAS: That’s not changing a behavior.

LYNDA: That’s seeing a behavior that needs to be changed.

ELIAS: Yes, it is.

LYNDA: I don’t think I thought it was a behavior. I just thought it was a shitty response.

ELIAS: Then why did you say that? It’s all connected, and it’s all connected in a manner that is very familiar to you. That puts you in a direction of not doing anything and saying things and then doing nothing and excusing yourself – similar to saying years to myself, “I’m going to stop doing that, Elias. Starting now, I’m not going to do that ever again.” Yes, you will, because that means nothing. What I’m saying to you is, now you have a new catch phrase.

LYNDA: “I’m changing behaviors.”

ELIAS: Correct. And that’s why I’m asking you these questions, because I want you to be realistic. Don’t simply say something. Don’t give yourself a new catch phrase and do nothing. What does that mean? If you’re changing behaviors, yes it’s important that you see a behavior that requires being changed; that’s good, but then when you say, “I’m changing behaviors,” what are you actually doing? What are you doing different? You see a behavior. You say, “I don’t like this. This is something that requires being changed.”

LYNDA: Snarkiness is the behavior.

ELIAS: Or jealousy.

LYNDA: Or jealousy.

ELIAS: Very well. You are seeing that that needs to be changed. How are you doing that?

LYNDA: Not do it anymore.

ELIAS: NO! Not saying “not do it anymore,” because that just leads you in a direction again of doing nothing because you will do it again. This is an excellent example. This is someone else, and you are doing the same thing. That’s a behavior.

LYNDA: Okay, let me look at the behavior then.

ELIAS: What is the behavior?

LYNDA: Not enough. Lack.

ELIAS: No. Stop guessing. What did you do? You got jealous. You got angry.

LYNDA: Right.

ELIAS: That’s the behavior: You got jealous. You got angry. Both of those are feelings that are alerting you to something, therefore you said what it was alerting you to. You said, “Do I want a relationship? Is that why I am jealous, because I want a relationship?” No. Beneath that is what you also said, “They’re happy.”

LYNDA: Am I not happy?

ELIAS: You are! The behavior then is what? This continuous behavior of expressing in this manner that is so automatic of being a victim – not of other people, of yourself. You are being a victim of “They’re so happy” and then being in yourself as if you are not – just the same as worrying about things with yourself or with your family, worrying about your brother. These are behaviors that you’ve been expressing for most of your life and have been reinforced by your culture.

Therefore this is the point of being able to look at realistically, “What did I just do? I got jealous. I got angry. Why did I get angry? What was the actual communication? Those are the feelings; what was the communication? That they are happy. Am I not happy? No, I am happy.”

Therefore, what is the behavior? The automatic looking at something outside of you, thinking it’s better, being angry about that thinking you don’t have something that you do have – which, yes, is a “not enough” response.

LYNDA: Why am I smiling right now?

ELIAS: Because you are understanding.

LYNDA: And I’m happy.

ELIAS: You ARE happy.

LYNDA: And you are not mad at me.

ELIAS: No. Why would I be angry?

LYNDA: Because when I first engaged this session I had a feeling something was different and you had something to tell me and I was nervous. And once again, this feeling always leads to you showing me my true happiness.

ELIAS: Yes.

LYNDA: Like I said about starting to recognize my vastness.

ELIAS: Yes.

LYNDA: And meditating.

ELIAS: Yes.

LYNDA: And it’s enough.

ELIAS: And that’s good.

LYNDA: And it’s okay that flinches come up, because then I can look at them.

ELIAS: Yes, of course. And I would say that this was an excellent example that the people you have a friendship with, those are the people you get jealous of.

LYNDA: Why is that?

ELIAS: Those are the people that you become angry with because you automatically compare, and automatically you stop thinking about what you actually have and what you are actually expressing and you immediately move into that direction of “They have something I don’t have.”

LYNDA: They have more – more than I do.

ELIAS: And “more” is not a bad word, because you are doing more and more and more and giving yourself more and more and more.

LYNDA: I am. And that’s my desire: “more,” not “more suffering.”

ELIAS: But that’s what I was expressing to you. This is part of your culture, and it’s part of what has been ingrained in you and this is the behavior. That’s what I am expressing to you to realistically look at, and that comes up repeatedly. And when you say, “I’m changing behaviors,” don’t even use those words but rather know in the moment when you see it. Acknowledge, “Very well, I did that immediately,” and then remember what you have. And that’s changing the behavior, because you are not stuck in that, and you are not throwing that off either because then it simply will come back.

LYNDA: Right. I’m taking the action of remembering what I do have.

ELIAS: And engaging that.

LYNDA: And engaging that.

ELIAS: And changing the behavior is being happy instead of being angry and jealous.

LYNDA: And comparing.

ELIAS: Yes, but being happy with you have.

LYNDA: And I’ve been doing that a lot lately.

ELIAS: Excellent.

LYNDA: I know I have. Even in the midst of wanting to organize the things that are important to me, giving myself permission to relax and not be such a perfectionist about it all.

ELIAS: Good.

LYNDA: This is great. Thank you very much.

ELIAS: And this is not about throwing off your culture, either. Your culture is a part of you. It’s natural, and it is a part of you.

LYNDA: Are you saying my personal culture or the culture of the world?

ELIAS: No, your culture.

LYNDA: Jewish.

ELIAS: Yes. Your culture. It is a part of your culture.

LYNDA: To want more.

ELIAS: No; to move in the direction of suffering. To move in the direction of worrying; to move in the direction of not enough; to move in the direction of being victims. This is all a part of things that are ingrained in you. It’s not genuine to you, but it’s part of your culture.

LYNDA: It’s not genuine to me. I’ve waited a long time to hear those words, but it is part of my culture that I chose.

ELIAS: Yes.

LYNDA: And I have a better understanding of the people in my culture.

ELIAS: Yes, and in that, you are not throwing off your culture.

LYNDA: And getting angry at it. I have gotten pretty angry at it.

ELIAS: Correct, but you are recognizing certain parts of that culture that you don’t agree with and that you are not continuing those behaviors because it doesn’t serve you.

[The timer for the session rings]

LYNDA: Excellent. Boy, you should take this stuff up seriously. (Elias chuckles) Thank you.

ELIAS: You’re very welcome.

I express great love and affection and a dear appreciation of our friendship, and in great encouragement for you to continue what you are doing.

LYNDA: Thank you.

ELIAS: Au revoir.

LYNDA: (Blows a kiss) Au revoir.

(Excerpts end after 30 minutes)

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