Stepping into a Different Reality: Part 4
Topics:
“Meditating with the Pearl Energy and an Intent”
“Intimate Expressions of Love from Another Essence”
“The Power of Essence”
Tuesday, December 3, 2024 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Nuno (Lystell)
ELIAS: Good morning!
NUNO: Greetings, my friend.
ELIAS: (Laughs) And how shall we begin?
NUNO: Oh, we may as well begin where we began last time, I suppose.
ELIAS: (Laughs) I will say I am happy to be engaging you as an adult.
NUNO: (Laughs) Oh. (Elias laughs) That’s very sweet of you to say that. Yeah, I suppose that may change in hopefully the near future. But I expect that you will be engaging me as an adult at some point.
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: And I am very much looking forward to that.
ELIAS: And I’ve already decided to be your non-imaginary friend as a small one.
NUNO: Excellent. I am sure I will appreciate the company. (Elias laughs) So where shall we begin with this?
ELIAS: Wherever you choose.
NUNO: Well, I guess I’m not really sure where I am or what progress I’ve made, if any, and what pieces are missing and what is it that I can do better and… Well, maybe you could start with that. What pieces are missing?
ELIAS: (Pause) How are your meditations proceeding?
NUNO: I was going to talk to you about that actually. If I do a simple meditation. That means without an intent. They can be fairly good, I wouldn’t say ideal but fairly good. I’ve been practicing that a lot actually. But when I’m doing a meditation with an intent, I’m not really sure how to go about that, especially if I’ve incorporated the pearl energy into that. What I tend to do with that would be to set the intent and… Or actually, first of all, to call upon the pearl energy and then set the intent. But then usually what I do is throughout the meditation I repeat the intent to myself and…
ELIAS: That’s not necessary. Actually, that’s entirely not necessary. What I would say is that becomes distracting. Once you set the intent and express that with the pearl energy also, it’s not necessary for you to express it again or to even think about it. I would say that from that point on, it’s simply a matter of then engaging your meditation.
What I would say is the first thing is the intent. That’s the first thing you do. Then you begin your preparation for your meditation. Then once that is complete, then you engage your actual meditation, and that you can do however you choose. You can do that with sense input. You can do that with an expression of visualization. If visualization is not easy for you, don’t do it. You can use another sense instead of visualizing. I would say it’s also significant to be using your breathing to help you. Focus on any part of your body that isn’t relaxed, and then focus on relaxing it. And in that, I would say that you can give yourself something repetitive to think about. If you are having difficulty relaxing, you can express some specific type of direction that is calming and enjoyable to you. I’d say that it’s entirely up to you, how you engage the meditation or how you direct it. But the goal is for you to be eventually engaging the meditation to the degree that you are (pause) only aware of you.
What I would suggest is that you try in your meditation to do something that allows you to become unaware of your body. That’s what I was expressing in relation to sinking into a chair, and merging with that. And therefore being less and less aware of your body and what it’s doing and even how it’s functioning.
Especially with you, in relation to your blood pressure, you want to be completely unaware of any of that, and simply aware of you, who you are. Therefore your mind, which is essentially you.
NUNO: And in that, at what point do I summon the pearl energy?
ELIAS: You do that at the very beginning. You do that—
NUNO: Before setting the intent?
ELIAS: Yes. Yes.
NUNO: And then I just leave it after that?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: So what I’ve been doing is… Well, obviously I’ve been repeating the intent, so that’s incorrect. But besides that, I have been, especially in regular clearing type of meditation, I have been using music.
ELIAS: Excellent.
NUNO: I found some meditation – actually, I kind of created this meditation music, but from other pieces. I found that I can at times actually focus my attention on the music and in that, kind of get absorbed into that, and that tends to relax me and get my mind off of anything else. I’ve also been using the counting method, where I count the breath and then I breathe into one part of my body then move to the next, and then so on. I’ve been doing that.
And in terms of visualization, I can probably visualize certain things. I’m just not sure what would be the best. Often I will visualize energy and I see purples and things like that, kind of cloud-like.
ELIAS: That’s good. That’s good.
NUNO: So what you’re saying in all of this is that it’s not necessary to focus my attention on what I want to accomplish. It’s not necessary to focus my attention on that other reality or any aspect of it?
ELIAS: No. No. None of that. And the reason being is that, as I expressed to you, the meditation is your doorway. Therefore this is your doorway into how you step into the other reality, by desensitizing yourself to this reality.
NUNO: Yes, I understand what you are expressing in that. But if I’ve got… The thing that distracts me the most is usually sound, and that’s why I went with the music. Although the music—
ELIAS: Now—
NUNO: Now the music itself—
ELIAS: Is-- Continue.
NUNO: I was going to say that the music itself is of course also sensory input.
ELIAS: Yes, it is but I would say that music can be very relaxing and lulling, and because of that it can be beneficial. Because you can actually reach a point in which you’re not hearing it any longer. That when you are relaxed enough, that you can get to that point in which you are not actually engaging it any longer. In that, it’s very similar to falling asleep when you’re listening to music. If you’re listening to music, eventually you can actually fall asleep and then you’re not hearing it any longer.
Which you can do that also. You can practice at night before you go to sleep. You can use that as an avenue also. You don’t only have to use the meditation. And in that, you can practice with falling asleep to music and that will help you in your meditation, that you will be relaxing to the point in which you’re not hearing it any longer.
NUNO: Are you saying that it’s possible for me to step into the other reality in my sleep?
ELIAS: Yes, it is. That’s another avenue that you can engage.
NUNO: Okay. And is the subjective being supportive in this?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: All right. Well, clearly I’ve been not doing the meditation correctly so that’s probably a significant piece. In terms of my preparations, is there anything that’s lacking?
ELIAS: (Pause) Have you engaged the grandparents briefly?
NUNO: The grandparents? The grandparents? No. I could.
ELIAS: That would be advisable.
NUNO: All right. Can you explain?
ELIAS: It isn’t something that requires anything dramatic. You can do that simply by entering into their dream and simply introducing yourself. I would suggest you introduce yourself as a small one.
NUNO: I’ve introduced myself to my parents and even my sister as that, as I have expressed I am their future child or something of that nature.
ELIAS: Excellent.
NUNO: And so I can do that with the grandparents then, yes.
ELIAS: Excellent.
NUNO: All right. I did meet the grandparents at one point.
ELIAS: Have you given more attention to how you want to present yourself in appearance?
NUNO: Yes. I actually have a photograph. If I look at the photograph, will you be able to sense that?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: Okay. Just hold on. I’ll grab my photograph. (Pause) All right. So I’m looking at this image. I got this image off the internet. It’s basically a male model, and this… It’s… I’m not sure what age, but I think late teens, early twenties, something like that. And I looked at many different images and I liked this one because to some extent it resembles me slightly, when I was younger in this lifetime. But I generally just like the appearance of the individual. I find the individual attractive and I like the expression. Are you picking up on this?
ELIAS: Yes. I would say that matches the energy that you are engaging for this (pause) body.
NUNO: I agree with that. I actually feel drawn to that image.
ELIAS: I would say that’s very understandable. And I would also say that you do have another focus that has a very similar appearance, not the same but similar.
NUNO: Oh. Okay. That’s interesting.
ELIAS: Which is likely why you’re drawn to it.
NUNO: Right. Yes. I also was going to ask if there are any substances that can help in this?
ELIAS: (Pause) That would be more a matter of your preference, what you want to engage. I would say that it also depends on which direction you’re moving in. If you are including the method of sleep, anything that helps you to sleep would be acceptable. Not in the capacity of overdosing yourself, obviously.
NUNO: The only two substances I would consider actually would be THC or psilocybin.
ELIAS: Yes, either of those are acceptable and would likely help in the relaxation.
NUNO: I have tried the THC. What I found though, it… Sometimes it affects my ability to focus on… to focus. But if it’s simply to relax in the way you’ve described it, I think that that would be actually quite effective.
ELIAS: I would agree.
NUNO: Is there any possibility that I inadvertently disengaged a focus instead of inserting myself into the new reality? Or end up in some other reality that I don’t intend to be in?
ELIAS: No.
NUNO: We talked about various attributes of the focus. One thing we didn’t talk about was guidelines and primary aspect.
ELIAS: Ah.
NUNO: And for guidelines, what I’d like to actually have is no guidelines. I don’t see any benefit to guidelines.
ELIAS: (Pause) I’d say that that’s actually a part of the reality. Therefore that piece is very similar to personality, gender or orientation, your families and belief systems. Therefore that would be something that you can choose, but wouldn’t be something that you can disregard. But I will say that in that time people are aware that they are their guidelines. Therefore there isn’t that confusion about expressing them in relation to other people.
NUNO: I’m not generally all that aware of my own guidelines in this lifetime. I have one that I’m aware of, but not really the other ones. I don’t even know how many of these things I have. To keep it simple, do I need to establish guidelines? I assume if I don’t establish guidelines for this new lifetime that I will automatically choose some guidelines, and I’d rather make a deliberate choice on that I think.
ELIAS: Very well. Then I would advise you to do so.
NUNO: And if I don’t, what would I end up with?
ELIAS: You will choose, I would say, likely once you are there. Therefore it’s not something that is exceptionally important now. You will choose.
NUNO: Will I choose that with objective awareness?
ELIAS: Likely so, because of the timeframe you have chosen.
NUNO: And at what age would that occur?
ELIAS: I would say approximately one year of age.
NUNO: Oh. Quite early.
ELIAS: You will already – Yes. At that point you will already be expressing your preferences, your – to a degree, not entirely but definitely to a degree – your likes and dislikes. And I would say that yes, at that age you’re already establishing your guidelines.
NUNO: Wouldn’t the parents be influencing that?
ELIAS: They’re not influencing your personality, and your preferences. I would say that by that age, even now a child is already establishing likes and dislikes in a limited capacity, and preferences. Therefore I would say that in that time framework you definitely will already be establishing your guidelines. Not all of them, but you will be beginning to establish them, yes.
NUNO: So I don’t need to be concerned with that at this time?
ELIAS: No.
NUNO: All right. That’s fine. I was going to also ask about what I think of as talents. That’s probably not a great word, but things that I have abilities with, like for example, my ability to sense energy and wield it and also my ability to connect with essences. I find these things quite valuable to me presently. And I’m assuming that I’m going to take that with me? Is that automatic?
ELIAS: Yes. That was the point, that you’re not creating another focus. You’re creating an extension of this focus.
NUNO: Yes. Well, because I’m not always clear on what is it that belongs to the focus and what is it that can be altered.
ELIAS: Very well.
NUNO: Can be altered. But I—
ELIAS: Very well.
NUNO: One thing that somebody brought to my attention was the primary aspect, and I actually hadn’t paid much attention to this or even, to be honest, I didn’t even hear about it. And I was wondering if… It seems like it would be quite useful to be able to change the primary aspect at will.
ELIAS: Yes. And you can.
NUNO: And is this something that I can establish at this time or it will develop eventually in my new life?
ELIAS: The latter.
NUNO: I was also wanting to ask about the point at which I enter the reality, in terms of the timeline for that reality. As we discussed previously, I would like to enter at the point of conception. This reality has already been inserted into time, correct?
ELIAS: No, but it will be.
NUNO: Oh. So it doesn’t actually go into motion, so to speak, until I arrive?
ELIAS: Correct.
NUNO: Oh, okay. I didn’t understand that.
ELIAS: Then it will all materialize. Then it will all become actual, physically inserted.
NUNO: Okay. So that does not occur until I arrive. Oh, well that’s… So I can actually at this point still make alterations to the reality? I’m not sure I want to, but that’s an option?
ELIAS: Yes. That is an option. You can.
NUNO: In that case, establishing that point of entry, meaning at conception, that’s simply an intent? That simply I have to express that as an intent? Is that correct?
ELIAS: (Pause) It’s slightly more than an intent. You’re actually creating the structure at this point for the reality. Therefore at this point you are (pause) involving other essences. You’re generating the foundation and the structure of the reality that you want, and you’re moving in a direction of pulling that into physical reality. Therefore the last step of that at this point is simply for you to manifest there. You’ve already created the foundation and the structure of it now, and you’ve engaged that with other essences and they have participated with you in creating that. Now it’s simply a matter of inserting yourself into it.
NUNO: Now you mentioned that it would be helpful if I engaged the grandparents. Would that be the focuses or the essences?
ELIAS: The focuses.
NUNO: All right. And I’m curious. So since the reality is not in motion, it’s not inserted into time, when I engage the focus, how is it that the focus exists?
ELIAS: You are engaging the essence also, obviously, because they are interchangeable. But you want to be engaging that, that aspect of the essence that is going to be physically manifest in a focus. Do you understand?
NUNO: Yes.
ELIAS: Very well.
NUNO: So when I, for example, do an observation of my mother or my parents or anyone in that reality, that would be me imagining a probable event?
ELIAS: No. You are… It’s beyond a probable self, and it’s beyond a probable event. It’s that you are viewing what is in motion to be inserted. It’s not waiting, because that’s not what happens, but it’s in motion in that direction.
NUNO: Would you say perhaps it’s latent?
ELIAS: Yes, you could use that word.
NUNO: So it exists as a potential, even though the reality is not… not in time yet?
ELIAS: Correct.
NUNO: I’m a little confused about what you meant by that two-year leeway. My understanding is… No actually, I’m confused about that. What do you…? What exactly did you mean by this two-year leeway?
ELIAS: Every essence has their way, in a manner of speaking, in which they can choose to be engaging a focus or they can choose not to. And in that, you moving into the direction of a birth are afforded the same expression. Which means you can choose to not fully engage that child for two years.
NUNO: Not fully engage? Are you saying then that—
ELIAS: That means that your entire attention and energy is not entirely inserted into that child.
NUNO: So what is the child? It’s kind of like a zombie?
ELIAS: No. But it is somewhat similar to a hologram. It’s not fully developed.
NUNO: But that isn’t my choice. I’ve already established my choice as being to insert myself—
ELIAS: I know.
NUNO: Okay. So—
ELIAS: I know. I’m simply giving you information.
NUNO: I don’t think I have too many questions left on that. I think my biggest difficulty is simply that I have not been engaging the meditation appropriately.
ELIAS: Ah.
NUNO: And so that’s obviously an important piece.
ELIAS: Have you tried merging into a chair?
NUNO: Repeat. Merging into where?
ELIAS: A chair.
NUNO: No, I haven’t. Usually, actually when I’m meditating usually I lie down. But if you think it’s better that we use a chair, I can do that.
ELIAS: I would say that’s acceptable. Where do you lie down?
NUNO: In bed, with the—
ELIAS: Very well.
NUNO: — pillow propping me up a little bit.
ELIAS: Very well. Then merge into the bed.
NUNO: I think that’s what’s most comfortable for me.
ELIAS: Very well. That’s acceptable. Then it’s simply a matter of you melting yourself into the bed and in that, that’s part of the (pause) desensitizing to your physical environment and to your physical body. Because that’s important. You want to be simply engaging your mind, which is you. Not your body. Not your environment. None of that.
NUNO: You mentioned my blood pressure earlier and I just thought I’d comment on that. It’s actually kind of, more or less, becoming less of an issue as I move into this. Partly because I made it—
ELIAS: That’s—
NUNO: Repeat.
ELIAS: That’s excellent. I simply am expressing that only in the capacity of you not being aware of your heart at all.
NUNO: Ah. Okay. Anyway, I was just going to say that I’ve been reducing the importance of it for a while now and also—
ELIAS: I know.
NUNO: And also I think the… That I, in the capacity of the subjective awareness, am what I would say being more cooperative in that. That’s my impression.
ELIAS: I would agree. And I’m aware that you’ve been addressing to that for quite some time. I merely brought that to your attention to emphasize not being aware of anything that has to do with your heart. Because just as your desire is your engine in relation to what keeps yourself going in a particular focus, your heart is the engine of your body, as you know. And in that, as long as it continues to be expressing its function, you continue to be where you are.
NUNO: Hm. I see.
ELIAS: That’s why you want to be moving in a direction in which you are desensitizing yourself to all physical aspects of your life.
NUNO: It kind of sounds to me from this discussion that perhaps what would be easiest would be for this to occur in my sleep.
ELIAS: I would say that would be very easy also. Either one would actually be easy.
NUNO: Because I do have a habit of falling asleep when I meditate deeply. If that’s an acceptable…
ELIAS: Yes. It is.
NUNO: All right. I actually wasn’t sure about that, because I have been attempting to do this at night and… Well, anyway, obviously not in the right way. But perhaps I can… Yeah, I think that that will work better for me. Because when I’m asleep, I’m not aware of anything in the body, I would expect. Is that right?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: I’d like to talk a little bit about Tingua.
ELIAS: Very well.
NUNO: And I’ve been engaging her fairly frequently because I really like her company and I like her energy. And I guess my concern is I’m maybe a little bit deluded in this?
ELIAS: Why?
NUNO: Well, it’s this way. She expresses love for me, but not in the same way that you express love for me and others. It’s kind of more intimate in some ways, and I’m not sure if I’m just hallucinating that.
ELIAS: No, you’re not. And what would be the problem with that?
NUNO: There is no problem with that. I’m very—
ELIAS: Ah.
NUNO: Actually, I’m very pleased with it. I’m… I am so appreciative of that. It really has opened up a whole new… I’m not sure how to express it. It just… It has affected me deeply. That’s what I would say.
ELIAS: Because it has offered you something that you haven’t experienced in this focus.
NUNO: Yes, exactly for that reason. Yes.
ELIAS: Which is very understandable. And I would say purposeful, because that allows you to take that experience with you.
NUNO: Yeah. It does. It’s actually… I feel that it’s helped me quite a bit in some ways. And—
ELIAS: I would agree.
NUNO: And we’ve made arrangements that she expressed a focus into this new reality.
ELIAS: Excellent. That’s very encouraging.
NUNO: Yes. Yeah. And the plan is that I meet here some time later in life, not immediately, but at some point.
ELIAS: Very well.
NUNO: So that’s something to look forward to.
ELIAS: Yes. I would agree.
NUNO: With Tingua it was… I just really just wanted to ask you about that in terms of whether I was deluded in that or I was hallucinating it or… And sometimes I wonder, but…
ELIAS: I would say no, you’re not hallucinating. No, you’re not deluded. And it’s an excellent experience to bring with you into the next reality.
NUNO: All right. Excellent. I think I’m just about exhausted in my questions for you. Would you like to offer any of your own?
ELIAS: Did you write your letters?
NUNO: Oh yes, I’ve done that quite some time ago.
ELIAS: Excellent. And in that, what did you express to them?
NUNO: Well, it depends on the individual but I… With all of them, I expressed to begin, what happened to me, where I’m going and just a brief explanation of that. They will of course think it’s suicide, so I told them it’s not although they probably won’t believe it. I don’t know. It doesn’t matter to me. Also, I expressed to them what I appreciated, what I appreciate in them, what I see as—
ELIAS: Excellent.
NUNO: What I see as their unique characteristics that are positive and are important to them. I expressed my love for them. I related experiences that I’ve had with them and that are significant to me. I am leaving each of them, except for Helen, each of the children I’m leaving a little token, a little object that they can remember me by.
ELIAS: Excellent. That is, that is very good, my friend. I would say that that’s very good because you definitely don’t want to leave with things undone. And without that, there would be things undone.
NUNO: Well, there is one thing that is being left undone. Not with my family, with an individual that I do business with. And I’m not really sure what to do with this person. Right now I’ve haven’t done anything with that. It’s not someone that I really have a lot of, you know, interest in I would say, other than a business interest. And would you say that I need to tie things up with him?
ELIAS: How much interaction have you had? Meaning how much of a part of your life has he been?
NUNO: Of my life?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: Not great. I mean it’s not an importance to me. I just do work for him and provide him services. And at times it takes quite a bit of my time to do that, which I actually find annoying. But in terms of him personally, I don’t really have that much contact with him.
ELIAS: Very well. Then no, it’s not necessary.
NUNO: All right. Very well. Yeah. The way I see it, things will sort themselves out one way or the other. It’s not really… I mean, it’s going to cause him some difficulties but I can’t be responsible for his, you know, for his life.
ELIAS: I agree.
NUNO: There was actually another question I had. I was curious as to my entry into this life, into this reality, and I entered it as you expressed, as a new focus. But did I imagine this reality into being like I’m doing now? Or would it pre-exist?
ELIAS: Yes. Not entirely. Not as comprehensively as you are with this other reality, but… But yes, this is basically the process that you would have engaged or that you did engage to be in this focus.
NUNO: That’s fascinating. So you’re saying that this world I’ve been living in, I created it?
ELIAS: Yes. Yes.
NUNO: That’s weird. (Both laugh) What’s everybody else going to—
ELIAS: I entirely—
NUNO: (Laughs) What’s everybody else going to think of this?
ELIAS: (Chuckles) I would say that this is how probabilities work and how they exist and how they come into being.
NUNO: And it will continue after I leave, of course?
ELIAS: Of course. Because although you create your version of it, you’ve also included countless other focuses, and they will continue.
NUNO: Well, I find that just absolutely fascinating in that it’s a, an expression of the power of essence, to be able to create that.
ELIAS: I very much agree. And you are correct. And I would say that the power of essence is astonishing. It is tremendous. Anything that you can physically create in your reality, the power that you have individually as essence is so far beyond whatever you can create in physical reality that you could express that it’s astonishing.
NUNO: It definitely is. And I just thought of another question. What would you recommend as the expression of my intent when engaging these meditations?
ELIAS: For an intent? I would say be very simple. Express perhaps leaving.
NUNO: Simply that?
ELIAS: Yes. You don’t have to be expressing a complicated intention.
NUNO: And that’s because everything else is already in place?
ELIAS: Correct. You’ve already created the foundation and the structure. Therefore it’s not necessary to have any complicated expression of an intention.
NUNO: All right. Well, that does make it quite simple then. Yes. That’s as simple as it gets.
ELIAS: (Laughs) I would agree, and I would express a very strong reminder for you to keep that in mind, moving in the direction of simplicity. And in that, that will serve you well in your meditations and in your objective in sleep, that you’re not simply sleeping and dreaming, that you have an intention with sleeping.
[The timer for the end of the session rings]
NUNO: All right. And that, the expression of that intent, that should be done at the beginning of the meditation as well?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: Well, I think that’s pretty comprehensive. Do you have any final things to say?
ELIAS: I would simply express to you, my friend, that my energy is with you in tremendous support, as it has been from the beginning and will continue to be until the end. (Chuckles) It’s all a process, and that is the point.
NUNO: Am I engaging that energy of yours? Am I using it productively?
ELIAS: I would say yes. Which is the reason you’ve been so comprehensive.
NUNO: Okay, my friend. Thank you very much. This was… I’m very glad that I scheduled this appointment with Mary.
ELIAS: You are especially welcome, and I express great encouragement to you my friend, as always. In wondrous love and affection and in deep appreciation of our friendship, I shall be looking forward to our next meeting however it manifests. (Chuckles) Au revoir.
NUNO: Au revoir.
(Elias departs after 59 minutes)
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