Session 202402171

Super Foods; Self-Hypnosis


“Healing Devices”
“Super Foods”
“Trusting the Subjective”
“Explanation of Essence”
“Trace Minerals for Water”
“Self-Hypnosis for Dream Recall”

Saturday, February 17, 2024 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Nuno (Lystell)

ELIAS: Good morning!

NUNO: Greetings, my friend.

ELIAS: (Laughs) And how shall we begin?

NUNO: I’d like to begin by asking some questions about healing devices.

ELIAS: Very well.

NUNO: I’ve been going on the assumption that it’s important for the device to automatically determine the resonant frequency of the affected area, because the assumption is that the person may not actually be able to sense the energy and feel when it resonates. I was wondering if maybe that’s an incorrect assumption and whether there’s another way to go about this, and that is to simply allow the user to feel the energy. And so the device would go through a sweep of various frequencies and the person would then pick out the one that they sense in the area that they want to heal. Or another way might be to just have the device continuously sweep various frequencies and just simply because it’s one of those is likely to be the correct frequency, it will be effective. So I’d like to know what your thoughts are on that.

ELIAS: I would say either of those would be effective. The latter would likely be more effective. And I would say that yes, you are correct, it isn’t necessary for you to be specific in relation to certain frequencies, that if the device can be, in a manner of speaking, as you described sweeping and therefore if it can alert to a particular deviation, that would be very effective, or if it could stop at a certain point and alert the person that there is a change in the energy. In that, let me say being similar to a device that finds wires in a wall, that as you move the device across the wall, it does nothing until it finds a wire and then it stops or it alerts the user to the presence of that wire. In a similar manner, if you have the device set in a manner that it would alert the individual to a change in the energy, that would be effective because then they would also know where the center is. Just as many times an individual may feel pain, but pain radiates and therefore where they feel the pain may not actually be where the center of the affliction is.

NUNO: What I was actually asking was whether even without that feedback to the user, it could still be useful to them or not.


NUNO: I would agree, and it’s easy to see that that kind of feedback would be quite valuable. It’s a challenging part for the design of this thing, since I don’t really know exactly how I’m going to go about sensing the energy from the person, but I have some ideas in that but it’s kind of a fuzzy area for me right now.

ELIAS: Very well.

NUNO: So moving on to another subject, you mentioned super foods to John, I think, in connection with spinach. And I was wondering first of all what are super foods? And what other super foods are there besides spinach?

ELIAS: Ah! Super foods are different foods that are very beneficial and that have more than one property to them, meaning that they are beneficial to the entire body. Therefore they’re beneficial to your body as a whole, but they’re also beneficial in relation to your neurological system, your brain, your organs and your digestive system. They also are beneficial to other aspects of the body such as skin, hair, muscle. Therefore super foods are foods that benefit the entire body.

And yes, there are more than simply spinach. I would say avocados are a super food. Kale is a super food. Eggs. Olives and olive oil. Sweet potatoes. Generally speaking meats are not, but fish is and it doesn’t matter what type of fish. Therefore there are many different types of super foods that benefit the entirety of the body and therefore they are something that I would definitely recommend to most individuals, unless the individual has an allergy to any of them, although that is unusual.

NUNO: It’s kind of interesting actually because almost all of the ones you just mentioned I am naturally attracted to.

ELIAS: Excellent. They are tremendously healthy.

NUNO: Okay. Well, thank you for that information.

ELIAS: You are very welcome.

NUNO: I’d like to ask about a dream I had, oh, I don’t know, maybe two weeks ago or something like that. And—

(The connection is broken and is re-established)

ELIAS: Continuing.

NUNO: Yes. A quick question: are these disruptions on the phone, is that my energy or something else?

ELIAS: (Pause) I would say no, it’s the device itself.

NUNO: That’s what I thought. I’m getting a new phone. Okay. (Both laugh) All right, continuing on. Yes, I want to ask you about a dream that I had perhaps a couple weeks ago. And it was somewhat unusual in that there were two of me and my impression at the time was that one was, you know, the regular dream self, the objective awareness I guess, and the other one was the subjective awareness, is what I had the impression that it was, the other one. And we’re having a discussion with each other about some body function that I had been trying to improve with inner landscapes and whatnot. And the subjective self says to me something about that that I can’t remember, and I respond, “I’m not so sure about that.” And the subjective self just kind of laughs a bit about that, and you know, chuckles. And then I respond to that saying, “I’ll have to get that checked,” meaning that I would ask you about it. And the next thing that happens is the subjective self says to me, “You should make a long-distance call,” and I respond, “And whom should I call?” And the response is, “Anyone.” And then there’s imagery of coins, like silver coins, which I took to mean, “Here’s some money to pay for your long-distance call.” So can you explain this one to me, please?

ELIAS: And your impression?

NUNO: (Pause) I mean the first part, I mean it’s obvious that there was some information there that was being presented to me that I forget. That’s easy, except I forgot or I don’t remember it, what was said. The part about the making a phone call, I think what that was… I mean my impression was it meant to contact an essence. That’s what my impression was.

ELIAS: (Pause) What I would express to you is that the symbology of this is about not always trusting the subjective aspect of yourself. That this is something that you’re not always aware of or you can’t always see and therefore it’s sometimes somewhat suspect. And in that also, then having it tell you to make this long-distance call, first of all the long-distance part of that is also something that is about not entirely trusting what the subjective aspect of yourself is doing, almost as if it’s at times a trickster. And therefore then it’s telling you it doesn’t matter who you call, but the long distance aspect of that is alluding to speaking to some other essence to verify. And in that, I would say that it’s simply a matter of imagery somewhat emphasizing to you this aspect of not entirely always trusting the subjective aspect of yourself, and that that is something that is to be addressed to. Because the subjective aspect of yourself is not something to be suspect of and in that, it’s a matter of learning to trust that aspect of yourself completely, as much as you trust the objective aspect of yourself, and in that, recognizing that it always reflects the objective.

Which that’s part of what I would say is suspect with you, is that in relation to that you’re not necessarily entirely certain as to what part of your objective expression the subjective is reflecting, because it might not be something that you’re actually paying attention to. Are you understanding?

NUNO: Yes, I am. (Pause) I guess that’s just a matter of being more aware of what the subjective communication is.

ELIAS: And I would say that it’s simply a matter of trusting yourself entirely, whether it be objective or subjective, but simply expressing that trust of yourself in an implicit manner.

NUNO: Okay. I understand. Thank you for that.

ELIAS: You are very welcome.

NUNO: I’d like to talk about one of my favorite subjects, essence and essence identity. Are you bored with this yet?

ELIAS: No. (Both laugh)

NUNO: Okay. So let’s begin like this. So you expressed or when I asked, everything is essence. So I’m essence, you’re essence, my cat is essence, the trees are essence, rock is essence because it’s either we are essence or it is all an expression of essence, so everything is essence. So when you tell us you are essence, I guess in a sense that doesn’t, in that context, that doesn’t really mean much because everything is essence.

And what I’m getting at has got to do with our previous discussion on how focuses are formed from multiple essences. And I was wondering if, when a focus is created, whether in a sense that’s kind of like forming a new essence, it is kind of a fragmentation? Would this be correct?

ELIAS: Not entirely, because as I have expressed or defined with fragmentation, that is the creation of a new essence. And generating a focus in physical reality is not necessarily doing that.

NUNO: Okay. But let’s use me as an example. So you’ve expressed that my essence name is Lystell and therefore there is an essence which you have attributed that name to, but I am not Lystell. I mean, part of me may be Lystell but I am a mix of that essence and various other essences, which I haven’t asked you about.

ELIAS: Now; I will stop you there. First of all, remember that the essence name is a tone. It’s what you would identify as the main part of a tone, not the entirety of it, but the main part of it, that can be translated into a name. That’s the first point. The second point is that that essence name, that part of that tone or even the entirety of the tone, IS the makeup and the combination of any and all of the essences that are participating in the projection, let us say, or the creation of that focus. And in that, therefore the essence of who you are is containing all of those contributing factors. Do you understand?

NUNO: I think so. Yes.

ELIAS: Very well. Continue.

NUNO: Okay. So given that, so Lystell is a tone and it is comprised of various essences that are, that have projected this focus. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Yes. Which states that essence, but that’s not necessarily a fragmentation.

NUNO: Let’s forget the fragmentation. That was perhaps not the direction I wanted to go in. What I’m trying to understand is, I had like a model which I used kind of to get a mental picture of what essence is and what I am and so on, but that kind of all fell apart when you told me that the focuses are actually created from multiple essences. So what I’m trying to understand is, if this focus is created from multiple essences, then what’s my identity? Is it like a new identity that’s made from all of those essences? In which case, like I said, I’m not really Lystell. I’m something else.

ELIAS: No. It’s not a new identity that is expressed in relation to many different essences. You are essence Lystell.

Now; this is the reason that I don’t usually engage this subject, because it is very confusing to individuals in physical focus because what you know is a very defined separation. This is the reason that I also, as I expressed, chose to express in the direction of making a distinction between a directing essence and an observing essence, which there actually is no distinction. But because people in your reality have such a strong and defined element of separation and because you think in singularities and you perceive in singularities, it is confusing to most individuals and they reject the idea that more than one individual can be a different focus. Therefore more than one individual can be one focus.

In that, I could say to you that more than one individual could be you. Which you can accept that there are four or five or six expressions of you or focuses of you in the same time framework because you’re still making that separation of different individuals. And in that, you’re still maintaining your individual identity.

In this, as I’ve expressed many times, outside of physical realities there is no separation. Therefore the designation of an essence name is that tone or that partial tone that can be translated into a word in a physical reality that can identify the energy expression of the focus of attention, which would be the physical manifestation, the physical individual. And you identify yourself as your physical name. Therefore it’s something that most people make a connection with, putting a name or a word to the essential beingness of themself. The essence of themself.

In that, there are expressions of consciousness that are, in a manner of speaking, identified as personality energy essences. That’s only the essence of an energy. The essence of an energy personality. There are countless, literally countless, personality expressions, personality energies, in consciousness. And they are not anything that can be identified singularly.

If I use myself or what you think of as myself as an example, I am the energy and personality essence of Elias, but I’m also Lystell and I’m also Michael and I’m also Lawrence and I’m also Ra and I’m also Abraham. I’m also every other essence that is, in consciousness. And so are you.

But you are in a physical reality. And in that physical reality, in any physical reality, there are specific designs of separation and singularity. You occupy a single body. You are a single individual. You perceive yourself in that singularity, that you are one person. And you can think in an abstract capacity to accept that there are many more yous of you in relation to other lifetimes. But even that has somewhat of a challenge, because they’re not you. They are you, but they’re not you and they’re all happening at the same time. Although in your configuration of time in your reality, some are past and some are future. Just as some of your experiences and some are future and some are present.

But in this, all of it has that element of singularity and individuality which then creates that uniqueness of each individual, of each focus of attention, that that is highly individualized and unique. AND there is no such thing as being absorbed into some greater expression of essence because you already ARE essence. Essence isn’t something separate from you or something greater than you. You ARE that already. That’s the reason you wouldn’t be absorbed into anything.

But then that creates the quandary and the difficulty about what about all of your other focuses? They’re also individual but they also are you. But they’re not you. And in that, they each have their own individuality and uniqueness. And how is that possible if those individuals are all Lystell also?

It’s something that is tremendously difficult to explain in relation to physical reality. What I can say to you is, it’s loosely, very loosely, something that you could perhaps make an association with the individual focus and your physical manifestation. You are one person, but what makes up that one person are many, many, many, many, many, many, many cells. And those cells don’t live forever. They are created, they live and they die. But the body continues. And of those dead cells, are they absorbed back into your body? No. In that, the body sheds them and it continues to grow and exist, but it doesn’t reabsorb anything that it sheds.

In this, all of those cells could be very, very loosely an example of all of the different focuses of you as essence. They all belong to that same essence. They all have their own identity and functions, and they also all move in their own direction. Therefore as links of consciousness, when they die, they continue in their own direction just as you will continue in your own direction and your own experience when you die.

As I said, this is a very loose translation and explanation because it is so very difficult to explain the factor that you can be an essence and also be a part of everything, and everything be a part of you.

NUNO: Okay. I think I’m beginning to get a picture.

ELIAS: Excellent.

NUNO: And I would say this is to be continued.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Very well.

NUNO: So, let’s see. I would like to ask about roast chicken. I’ve been feeding my cat regular cat food, but in addition I feed her roast chicken from Costco, and she rather likes it. The only problem I see with that possibly is that it does have some additives, notably salt and sugar. I don’t think there is much of that in there. When I taste it, it doesn’t seem to have too much. Would you say that this is not a good choice for feeding the cat?

ELIAS: No, not necessarily. I wouldn’t. And I would say that if you are not giving her the skin, which would be the main part of the bird that would have the additive – although some of it does seep into the meat – but for the most part, it would be mostly contained to the skin and if you’re not giving her the skin, I would say that no, this is not something that would be harmful.

NUNO: I do take the skin off. I figured that one out for myself. Okay. Good. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are very welcome.

NUNO: Another question about mineral supplements for water. And we talked about this a little bit last time, and then I went to look for these supplements and there is a huge number of them available actually. So I was wondering if you could tell me, what are the essential key minerals that are important to be put in the water?

ELIAS: I would say investigate trace minerals, and that that would be what would be the most essential.

NUNO: I don’t know what you mean by trace minerals.

ELIAS: If you investigate, if you look up trace minerals, it will yield an identification of the group of minerals that are essential.

NUNO: Okay. I can do that. I was wondering if self-hypnosis would be beneficial for me, particularly for improving my dream recall?

ELIAS: Definitely. I would definitely encourage you in that direction.

NUNO: And can you describe what’s an effective method to achieve that?

ELIAS: Yes. I would say, although you can also incorporate a guided method if you are so choosing, but actually it’s very simple. Hypnosis is simply a very deep relaxation in which you are still awake but you have entered into a very deep relaxation.

Now; in that, what I would say is the easiest method is very similar to what I have expressed in relation to projection. You can use any type of imagery that leads you in a downward direction. I generally suggest either stairs or a lift, an elevator. In that, moving with an elevator floor by floor, downward, until you reach perhaps the basement. And in that, I would suggest that you start with about ten floors that you would be descending. And move slowly. Give yourself time to move in the descent and be moving deeper and deeper into that relaxation. And then when you reach the bottom or the basement, then you generate the imagery that the doors of the elevator open. And that is your emergence into whatever it is that you want to engage with the hypnosis.

In this, you can also use the method of stairs. In that, if you choose stairs, be very aware of the stairs themselves, that you are creating a staircase that is detailed. It doesn’t have to be ornate. It doesn’t have to be something that is very elaborate. It simply is a situation in which you are taking into account the details of the stairs themselves. In that, the reason for that is that it holds your attention in relation to descending the stairs. I would suggest that you descend the stairs slowly, just as you would with the elevator, and in that, breathing and paying attention to each step that you move down, expressing to yourself the same as with the elevator, that you are experiencing more and more relaxation with every step that you descend. At the bottom of the stairs, visualize a door. And then in that, you move to the door and when you open it, you should be able to step out into whatever your objective is.

Both these methods are very simple and very effective.

NUNO: Okay. Thank you for that.

ELIAS: You are very welcome.

NUNO: And I was wondering if I could ask a few questions on the subject you least like to discuss with me? (Both laugh) I take that to be a yes? Or maybe not?

ELIAS: Continue. (Laughs)

NUNO: Okay. Here we go. So it’s got to do with my shifting the focus from a different dimension into this one.

ELIAS: Very well.

NUNO: And I’m curious about a couple of things. The first question is, why did I do that? Instead of just creating a new focus?

ELIAS: (Pause) I would say that it is an experience and an example of what you are capable of, which actually can be beneficial because it can encourage you in relation to what you can accomplish. Therefore it can increase your confidence in relation to what you can do.

NUNO: Okay. And have I done this more than once?

ELIAS: (Pause) Yes. But not in a capacity that you would be objectively aware of.

NUNO: So here’s, here’s the question. So the reason I’m even aware of this is because originally Scotty noticed that my energy was different and subsequent to that, he asked you about it. And somehow the information got back to me and your response to that. So if Scotty was able to sense that my energy was different, it’s probably because it is. I mean different from other people. So my question is, in what way is it different and how does that affect me?

ELIAS: (Pause) First of all, remember: this individual occupies a different reality. Therefore he would notice if someone’s energy was different. That doesn’t mean YOU occupy a different reality. It does mean that if you happen to step into another reality momentarily or for a brief time framework, it might be noticed by someone that does occupy a different reality.

[The timer for the end of the session rings]

Now; what I would say to you in relation to that is that when you step into a different reality or a different dimension even momentarily, it does change your energy. It would have to, or you wouldn’t be able to enter into a different reality or a different dimension.

Now; in that, your energy only changes for a brief time framework, but it does change. In that, what I would say to you is it’s simply a matter that you, what is different about you is that you perhaps can step into another dimension more easily than most people. There are some people that can do that, and you would be one of them.

NUNO: Okay. Well, that was interesting. And just one very quick question. In John’s recent session you suggested that he eat hardy meals, like breakfast and lunch. Somebody contacted me concerning the transcript for that session and she wanted to know if the transcript was incorrect. The transcript has you saying he should eat hardy meals, like h-a-r-d-y, but she felt that it should be hearty, with a t, h-e-a-r-t-y. Could you let me know if the transcript is correct or not?

ELIAS: Hearty.

NUNO: With a t?


NUNO: Ah! Okay. That’s interesting. All right. Then we will get that fixed. Okay. Thank you, my friend for your marvelous and useful information.

ELIAS: You are very welcome. And as always, I would say this has been thoroughly enjoyable (chuckles), contrary to the idea that you believe I dislike certain subjects. (Both laugh)

I shall tremendously be looking forward to our next meeting, my dear friend. And I will be offering my energy to you continuously in support, as always. In tremendous love and dear friendship to you, au revoir.

NUNO: Au revoir.

(Elias departs after 58 minutes)

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