Session 20201020

“A Generation of Abused Children”

Tuesday, October 20, 2020 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Anon

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

ANON: Hi, my friend!

ELIAS: And here we are again.

ANON: (Sighs) With a kind of heavy topic, as you know. And am I correct that you gave me some clear nudges to have this session, Elias?

ELIAS: Yes. You are correct. I would say that it isn’t only an important subject, but it is also important to tread carefully with this subject.

ANON: Yes.

ELIAS: Because most of the people that have blocked memories will most likely be oppositional and will be very defensive. Therefore, it is exceptionally important that you are aware of how to be interactive and recognizing that the most effective manner is to be allowing, which means if individuals express defensiveness or anger or blaming or frustration, to simply allow them to do so.

And in that, I would express to you, my expression with people to this point has been to assure them of my love and compassion and support to them, and my allowance for them to use myself as an energetic punching bag if they are so choosing. They require some outlet for that anger. They don’t even understand why they are angry. They think they are angry because they are opposing information in relation to their own experiences, but in actuality they are angry because of their experiences, which is very understandable.

And let me express to you, my friend, we simply touched on the subject in our other conversation in relation to the affectingness of that entire generation of people that created an influence—the next generation, or actually the next two generations—of trauma in relation to being devalued, discounted, not appreciated, expressed as entirely unimportant.

Let me say to you, my friend, that until recently – and when I say recently, I would say within the most recent thirty years – that in many countries throughout the world there has been more and more of an awareness of the treatment of animals and the abuse of animals and the use of animals in blood sports. And that, let me say to you my friend, is a significant movement, because the generation that came from your second world war were so discounting of life in general. The perception of animals was that they served a function but that they were definitely lower life forms and therefore could be treated in any manner that the humans saw fit. Children were viewed as less than animals.

ANON: Really?

ELIAS: Because animals had a purpose, even domestic animals. Even domestic animals such as dogs and cats, they had a purpose. Dogs were used as guard animals for protection, and cats were used to maintain ridding the population of mice or small rodents. Therefore, they had jobs. They had a purpose. Children had none.

ANON: Oh my god, Elias. Let me briefly—

ELIAS: Therefore, children were viewed as less important, less valuable and completely non-useful, but less than animals.

ANON: Elias, let me briefly interrupt you here. I have a few questions, and then you have the floor for the rest of the session. You know, Mary and I both developed severe back pain out of the blue. And when I looked closer at it, I recognized what I was carrying on my shoulders. It was this entire energy of this abused generation. And after that, the pain quickly disappeared when I recognized it, I stopped it. Would you agree with my assessment?

ELIAS: I would agree. Now. I would also say to you that it would not be unusual or odd if you developed it again.

ANON: And Mary did the same?

ELIAS: I would say that you can both dissipate it, but it wouldn’t be unusual for it to return.

ANON: Yes. I was quite surprised and then I… Actually, I asked myself, “What is going on here?” and then I also got quickly the answer. And then it was like a minute after that it was fading away, so it was quite interesting, you know?

ELIAS: I understand. This is a tremendous amount of energy. And what I would say to you is that in a manner of speaking, it is presently very similar to breaking open an egg and the insides spilling out.

ANON: I completely believe you.

ELIAS: That is what is happening.

ANON: Yes, and I was recognizing quickly that it was on purpose that you actually brought this to the table. And then I recognized very quickly, I mean a generation of abused children means that it must have a tremendous impact on the whole society. And we will come later to that. But let me ask you, I wonder how many children in percentage actually chose to lock such abuse memory instead of living with it, Elias. From the 70% that experienced it, how many have locked the memory actually?

ELIAS: In that 70%, I would say the percentage of those individuals that have either completely blocked their recall or have partially blocked their recall would be approximately (pause) between 70 and 80% of those people.

ANON: I thought so. My impression was 80%, so I was quite correct. And why are some choosing to rather live with that instead of removing it from their memory, Elias? I mean, I am aware that there are no general statements, but is it simply that some want to experience this, what it means? Or is there some other aspect in play?

ELIAS: Actually, I would say that the reason that some individuals have chosen not to block those memories is actually to be instrumental, to be expressing those memories, and therefore that in itself encourages the movement of the rest.

ANON: Wow. That is quite bold.

ELIAS: I would agree. Now, that isn’t that they objectively think about that or that they even realize objectively—previously—that they are being so instrumental, but that is actually the reason that some of the people have chosen to remember.

ANON: That makes sense. Yes. Okay. And what would you say is the percentage in the age range of people that are now 20 to 50 years old and have been experiencing abuse in their childhood, Elias? Simply to have an idea of how much it was decreasing, you know?

ELIAS: I would say yes, it has decreased tremendously, but I would also say that this one generation began a cycle which has been difficult to break. But the individuals between 20 and 50, I would say, are definitely in a much, much, much smaller percentile of engaging abusive situations. And it is actually the younger the individuals, the more likely they are to not be experiencing physical abusiveness and to be experiencing much, much less emotional or mental abuse.

ANON: So what would be the percentage?

ELIAS: (Pause) I would say in that age group, perhaps throughout the world 18 to 20%.

ANON: (Sighs) That is good. I thought 30, and many thought it is still higher, so that is really encouraging.

ELIAS: Yes. I would say that many, many, many of the individuals in the first, closest generation of children of the abusers—which those individuals would likely be in the age group of between, I would say, 62 to 80 at this present time framework—those are the individuals that are in the age group of the first, most intense wave of the influence of that tremendous abuse.

ANON: Wow.

ELIAS: Then after that would be individuals from the age of 50 to 62. In that, it has influenced two generations very, very, very strongly, but the first one most, most definitely tremendous trauma and tremendous abuse and torture.

ANON: My god.

ELIAS: Which, I would also say that during that time framework it was very common for families to incorporate animals. It was very common for most families to either have a dog or a cat, or to have a dog or a cat and some other small farm animals such as chickens or goats or perhaps a sheep. In that, most families had some type of animals directly after the Second World War. And that actually, in a manner of speaking, emphasized to these children how unimportant they were, because generally speaking the animals were at most neglected but not necessarily abused.

[Personal information omitted]

Now, what I would say is, what is tremendously, tremendously important to remember is it is futile and not of any benefit whatsoever to move in directions of blame. And I know that that is automatic for so many individuals, but what is important for them to recognize is that these people, their parents, were people. Their parents are individuals that have themselves been traumatized in manners that they themselves can’t comprehend.

When you remove that piece, or those two pieces especially, of rightness and the conviction of that and honor—when you remove those pieces in war, it creates such damage to the people involved. This is the reason that such tremendous atrocities could be expressed in the Second World War, much more so than any other war prior to it. It was a time framework in which I would say to you, humans moved in a direction of using their creativity to invent the most torturous actions that they can conceive.

ANON: Oh, oh, oh.

ELIAS: More so than in any other time in history. And the reason being because there was the lack of honor—there was no honor. Therefore, everything then became available and—

ANON: Acceptable.

ELIAS: Allowable.

ANON: Yeah. I know. I clearly see that, Elias, and it is mind-boggling. If you really feel into that, it is unbelievable. And I mean, I talked with Mary, and she also said my god, that is so unbelievable. [Personal information omitted]

I mean, this is crazy. If you would ask people, and even if you bring up this topic, they are silent. [Personal information omitted]

ELIAS: I understand. There are two factors in this. One is, even with the individuals that have a partial recall or a slight recall, there is such an overwhelming factor of shame, and as we have expressed, shame’s partner is silence. That is what feeds it. But I would say that also, people don’t know what direction to move in. They can’t remember their own experiences. AND what creates even more difficulty with that situation is that at this point, many, many, many of them are expressing in directions that they THINK that they are healthy, and that what is the point of delving into experiences that may be traumatic when they have successfully eliminated their recall of the memories and therefore the memories aren’t affecting them, and in that, they are successful individuals. They are of a considerable age now, perhaps in their sixth decade or older, and in that, they are expressing that they have lived this long without knowing and that it isn’t influencing them, and therefore there is no point in uncovering such memories.

But that is so incorrect. I would say that I engage physically in actual, physical interaction, in objective communication with people, a tiny percentage of your population throughout your world. And in that, of those people that I engage, most of them are engaging conversation with myself because they have problems, because they have difficulties, because they don’t know how to maneuver in certain manners and that they notice that they have been having certain difficulties for most of their lives. And in that, they still are expressing that these memories being locked and that they have blocked them out have no influence on them.

Of COURSE they have an influence! They ALL have an influence. The factor that an individual doesn’t recall a memory doesn’t mean that that memory isn’t influencing them. Those memories ARE influencing. You cannot experience trauma in a physical focus without it having an influence.

ANON: Yes, I know that, but let me ask you one thing. I mean, you remember I talked with you about the friend of [my client]. And we both came to the conclusion it would not be a benefit to actually unlock her memory, but I kind of circumvented it and I actually disentangled her without revealing the hidden information. So, my question would be: At what point, or what indication is there, that I can decide whether it is beneficial to circumvent the memory or to actually unlock it at some point—maybe not now, but at some point. Because the friend, it seems that it is much better that she will never have contact with the memory.

ELIAS: I understand, but that doesn’t mean that the individual shouldn’t engage ANY memories. That is that point.

ANON: Ah. Okay.

ELIAS: There are some memories that aren’t necessary for an individual to recall and delve into. There are situations in which the individual can be addressing to some recalled experiences and have a general idea of the experiences and the atmosphere of their childhood, and that is enough.

ANON: Okay.

ELIAS: That if they can actually recall some memories, even if they can only recall three, if they can unblock even that many of their memories, that is enough to give them a general idea of their experience when they were a child and the trauma that was involved.

Now, understand when I say that I am expressing perhaps three memories that are traumatic. And in that, they are difficult to recall. They are difficult to experience and to move through.

What I will say to you is that what is significant in addressing to trauma—especially childhood trauma, which is different from adult trauma, and THAT is a significant piece to distinguish. In this, addressing to childhood trauma when the individual can actually engage the memory and recall the memory and be expressing the experience and putting together the feeling with the memory, that is ultimately the most important step. If you can’t put together the feeling with the memory, then it is pointless. It remains in that stuck position of trauma. But once you do that and you put those two factors together, it actually is a situation in which the individual will genuinely only experience that for approximately one to two minutes.

Now, understand that one to two minutes can seem to be a very long time framework, because the entire body reacts. What you will witness with an individual in that position is [that] while they are expressing the feeling and the memory, they will shake. Their entire body will shake. They will express this type of action in which it is not fully crying, they are partially crying but they are partially not crying, because it is a mixture of signals of anger and fear and sadness. And therefore, the body consciousness is reacting to all of those signals, and they are very intense, and therefore what happens is [that] the body consciousness begins to shake uncontrollably. The individual, depending on the severity of the trauma, may experience shivering in which their teeth chatter, and they may have difficulty breathing.

But all of that only actually is expressed for between one and two minutes, and then it stops. And the individual might actually momentarily think that they have somehow blocked it, because it simply will stop, but actually it stops because the physical brain has moved it.

ANON: Ah. Okay.

ELIAS: Therefore, in that, once the physical brain moves the experience, the individual’s neurological system resets, and all of that intensity and all of those feelings and all of that reaction of the body consciousness stops.

There are other actions that can occur during that one to two minutes. The individual’s hands may go numb. They may feel very hot. People observing might think that they are cold because they are generating an action of shivering, but they are not cold. It is an intense reaction of the body consciousness to overwhelming fear. And actually in those moments, in that recalled situation, the individual is placing themself in the same position that they were in at the time of the trauma, and therefore they are actually experiencing terror.

It is astounding what the human body consciousness and psyche can endure.

ANON: Oh yes. And it is amazing what kind of memories are locked in there. [Personal information omitted]

ELIAS: I understand. And that is very understandable. It can be very overwhelming, even as an observer. And in that, I would say, my friend, that this is also what can be challenging as a facilitator, because as the facilitator I would say it is necessary that you be willing to allow the individual to express in whatever manner they do, prior to their actual action of recall and putting together the recall and the feeling, because their expressions before that are reactive in defense. The body consciousness is influencing them in the direction of “No, no, no, no, no! We don’t unlock this. This is NOT a path that is acceptable to move down.” [Personal information omitted] In that, the individual follows that very strongly, which is understandable. It is a protection mechanism.

The situation is, though, that in shifting it is tremendously important to be self-aware, and you cannot be entirely self-aware if you have locked trauma.

ANON: And you also cannot—

ELIAS: You will always be subject to the influences of that, and you don’t have objective intentional choice in relation to that, because you can’t choose what you aren’t aware of and you can’t change what you don’t know.

ANON: Yes. And you know, I also have the feeling that many of these attachments to their identity that we talked about already are actually highly interwoven with these traumatic, locked memories. So, it is actually not even possible to address to these attachments without at least revealing some of these locked memories, in my opinion.

ELIAS: I definitely agree. I definitely agree.

ANON: So, you have a situation that you are kind of really in a dire situation. You have first to address to these locked memories, which is hard enough, and then you have to address to the attachments to your identity, which is another quite huge hurdle, you know?

ELIAS: I definitely would agree, definitely. Because in that, yes, this is the piece in which people don’t see what the influence has been in relation to that trauma, and THAT is what you are addressing to in the attachment.

ANON: I have a question, Elias. Is there a method, so to speak, for people that they can engage to simply indicate whether there is any hidden memory in them? So, can they maybe play an imagination game, something that you could recommend that they have a glimpse? Not that they recall something, but that they have at least a clue: okay, here there is something very likely that I have locked.

ELIAS: First of all, I would say that for the most part, with few exceptions – there are a few exceptions, but very few – but in that, for the most part, any individual that either has difficulty in recalling events of their childhood or has blocked memory of their childhood, for the most part you can automatically assume that the reason for that is protection and because of some type of trauma. Therefore, that is almost a given, especially in relation to the number of the percentage of people that have been affected in relation to that one generation. I would say that it is almost certain that everyone that has any type of difficulty in remembering their memories as a child, they likely have trauma.

Now, what I would also add to that before I continue and answer your question is that there is another piece of this, that even those individuals that didn’t necessarily experience actual trauma in their childhood in relation to that first generation after the Second World War, there are many of them that incorporate the energy of that trauma anyway because of the experiences and expressions of their parents that were involved in that war, because of the expressions and the experiences that they engaged in inflicting trauma during the war and then later carried that energy with them and were projecting that energy, even if they weren’t actually expressing any physical or emotional trauma to their children. Which was not common, as you are aware. If 70% of the entire world’s population experienced that trauma, then there are very few individuals that actually escaped the actual expressions of trauma, but those that did still incorporated that energy and were affected by it.

Now, in relation to is there something that these people can do that can help them to unlock? Yes. It may not necessarily be comfortable, but it can definitely be effective. And what I would say is this is an excellent avenue for imagination. And this also is significant because first of all, I remind you that imagination is not fantasy—it is real. And in relation to certain actions that an individual engages with imagination, what they present to themself is very real also. Imagination is an avenue of communication, therefore you are communicating to yourself when you use your imagination.

In this, I would say that it is very common for individuals to express the question, “I was engaging my imagination and I presented this to myself. Was that real?” People express that over and over and over again. They question, “Was that real?” Yes, it is.

Now; what I would say is [that] in relation to moving in a direction of influencing recall and intentionally attempting to unlock memories, I would express that if an individual is playing with imagination and simply allowing it to be expressed in whatever direction it will be expressed, likely whatever the individual presents to themself, it may not be entirely an accurate picture of what the individual experienced, but there definitely will be parts of what they are imagining that they actually experienced.

ANON: Yes. I mean, you know, I actually have some experience with it, because when I imagined raping a woman when I was a teenager, after reading stories about that, I recognized very soon that somehow this topic was charged. So when I engaged imagination with it, I quickly recognized that I have a hate for this sexual perpetrator that was so tremendous. [Personal information omitted] But I mean, you can actually use that. You can start imagining that maybe you are raped or that you are raping someone and then try another imagination and see what is more charged. And would that be an indicator, that if you recognize that something is really charged that that is an indicator that you may look at that?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: Because it was quite clear to me that there are… I could imagine some other actions and I… Well, I simply see it, and yes, there is a slight reaction, but when I imagined a perpetrator that was raping a woman I was so pissed, you know, Elias, that I thought, “Okay, there must be some experience or some reason for that.” And so, people could actually engage this imagination that they maybe rape someone or they get raped and then see how they actually experience this imagination?

ELIAS: Yes. Or, or they can move in the direction using imagination in relation to—very similar to what you expressed—if they have a very strong judgment about a particular subject, they can use their imagination in relation to that subject, because if they have a very strong judgment about a particular subject, it is very likely that the reason they have such a strong judgment is because they have experienced that in one manner or another.

And what is significant, simply as YOU expressed also, that regardless of the position of the individual, whether they are the perpetrator or the victim, both are victims. And in that, I would say that it is a matter of recognizing that an individual might have a strong response to a particular subject because they have BEEN a perpetrator. And that isn’t unusual either, especially with children.

And this is a subject that many individuals definitely don’t want to look at, that as children they themselves may have been abused, and as children they may have emulated that action or copied that action with other children.

ANON: Yes. I know, Elias.

ELIAS: Which creates even MORE trauma, because then, in addition to the trauma that they experience that may have been inflicted on them, they also add to that guilt in relation to what they may have expressed in copying the expressions of the parents.

[Personal information deleted]

ELIAS: I would express that I genuinely acknowledge this is a difficult subject. It is very painful, and what I would express to you to definitely convey to anyone that you engage with, there is no fault and there is no blame.

There also is not excusing. Because in that, you don’t actually excuse behaviors that are harmful, but regardless that you don’t excuse them, you don’t express blame or fault. Because individuals express in manners because that is what they know or are encouraged to do at the time, and that doesn’t mean that they are aware of being harmful.

I know that seems almost incomprehensible, and that from the present perspective most individuals would automatically express the question, “How could someone not know that they are being harmful?” But in that, even at the price of death with a particular action that is harmful to another individual, it depends on the individual’s perception. And if the individual’s perception is that they are doing something for a good reason, or that what they are harming is less than an animal, I would remind most individuals to check with themselves when they smack a mosquito.

ANON: Yes.

ELIAS: And what do they feel in relation to that? Likely nothing.

ANON: Yes.

ELIAS: And they don’t have a perception that they are doing something harmful or wrong; they simply smack it and kill it. And in that, they have no feeling about it. And I understand that from the perspective of people that are more self-aware presently, that it is inconscionable to them, that this is not a mosquito, this is a child or this is another human being. It doesn’t matter; if the individual that is expressing the trauma, that is perpetrating it, if their perception is that this is not a human, then it doesn’t matter.

And let me express to you very genuinely, my friend, that this entire generation of individuals actually did not perceive children to BE human yet. Babies are not humans yet, children are not humans yet—they aren’t individuals, because they haven’t developed and grown into them. That just as an individual can express the idea presently that they justify the action of abortion because what they are aborting isn’t human—and let me be clear: I incorporate no judgment whatsoever in relation to that choice. It is simply a choice. But to justify that choice by expressing that what they are aborting is not human is ludicrous.

ANON: Oh my god.

ELIAS: What I would say in that is, that is definitely a choice that an individual can make, but it is a matter of being realistic about that choice, in the same manner that you would have that generation be realistic that children are humans and that children were people. No, they did not perceive them to be people.

ANON: That is really hard to wrap my mind around, Elias.

ELIAS: I understand. I very much understand. But there is an entire generation of people that incorporated that perception that babies and children are not people until they reach adulthood, and until then they are possessions that are actually less than animals in value and that are possessions that the owners of can do with as they choose.

[Personal information omitted here]

ANON: I guess we will have another session? Because I mean we hardly delved into the influences that are hidden and that are invisible for most people. [Personal information omitted here]

ELIAS: I would definitely agree that people don’t see the influences. They don’t see their own behaviors in what creates difficulties for them and how they move in such directions of expressing what their parents lacked, which was that conviction of rightness. People wonder why there is such a significant polarization presently throughout your world—this is part of it, and part of the reason that I have expressed so many conversations about rightness and how damaging that is, and how important it is to understand that you can be right without making someone else wrong. But that is what the ultimate rightness does: it makes someone else wrong – or lots of someone elses wrong.

And in that, this is what self-righteousness is. And this is born out of the lack of it in that generation. There was no conviction of rightness. And therefore, BECAUSE there was no conviction of rightness, there was no honor. And in that, through the action of NOT expressing that conviction of rightness and honor, the children moved in a direction of assuming that absolute rightness and a tremendous conviction in their absoluteness of their rightness.

[The timer for the end of the session rings]

ANON: (Sighs) Yeah. You know, I have a question for the client that I’m trying to get a session with you, and he is still kind of sabotaging it. Am I correct that the abuse was actually happening in the age of six to seven with him?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: And the parents were not aware—

ELIAS: Actually, I would say there was an incident before that also, but yes, that was the main age.

ANON: And the parents were not involved, and they were not aware what was going on. Is that also correct?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANON: And he recently shared an incident with a babysitter that happened in the age of six or seven that was kind of… at least remarkable. And I think it happened just before the other more abusive actions happened but it was somehow facilitating it. Am I correct?

ELIAS: Yes. That would be correct. Yes.

ANON: Wow. So, I also have the feeling that he is actually quickly coming to the point where he is ready to address these attachments and the trauma. He is swiftly moving in that direction.

ELIAS: I would agree.

ANON: Okay.

ELIAS: I would say that perhaps implementing some of these actions that we have been discussing this day may be helpful.

ANON: Yes.

ELIAS: Engaging his imagination and practicing in those directions. That may be helpful in preparation for movement in relation to opening those subjects.

ANON: And there was another interesting point. I also have the feeling that his wife has also a blocked memory. So, is this actually common that people with a locked memory are drawn to other people that have a similar locked memory?

ELIAS: I would say that that is somewhat obvious, and it isn’t even a matter of being drawn to, but yes, they would be—of course, because you automatically are drawn to individuals that express similar energies and similar expressions as yourself. But I would also say that if you are fishing in a pond and 70% of the fish are orange, it is very likely that you are going to catch an orange fish.

ANON: Yes. I know. But I simply wondered whether that is that people are drawn to other people that have a similar experience. So yes, you validated that.

Okay, we will stop, my friend, and I will schedule another session where you actually can more delve into the influences that are hidden, because that is kind of interesting. Because as we talked about, most people have no idea how pervasive these traumas were that are playing out now, you know?

ELIAS: Yes. I agree.

ANON: Okay.

ELIAS: Very well, my friend. I shall greatly be anticipating our next meeting, and I express tremendous encouragement to you.

In wondrous love, as always, au revoir.

ANON: Au revoir, Elias.

(Elias departs after 1 hour 19 minutes)

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