Global Issues
Topics:
"Global Issues"
“Deforestation and Forest Consciousness”
“A Lecture on Being Responsible to Ourselves vs. Dictating to Others”
"Sea Level Rise, Food and Water Production"
Sunday, July 26, 2015 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Ethan (Jasper)
ELIAS: Continuing! (Ethan continues after his private session 20150726-1)
ETHAN: Okay. So this is a different thing now. It’s a sort of collaborated session with several friends from the forum, and the theme will be unseen elements in mass expression, or unknown elements, and conscious cooperation.
And three topic areas are... We sort of wanted 20 minutes on each topic area. The first one is deforestation and forest consciousness, the second one is Greece’s debt and corruption, and the third is sea level rise and food and water production.
Okay. So, the first set of questions: How do forests balance or support individual and collective consciousness physically and psychically? And what are significant unofficial impacts stemming from the mass expression of deforestation? Is there an underlying relationship to increased wildfires? That’s the first part of that section.
ELIAS: I would express offer one question at a time.
ETHAN: Okay. That makes more sense. So the first question: How do forests balance or support individual and collective consciousness physically and psychically?
ELIAS: One moment. Repeat the question. There is interference occurring.
ETHAN: Okay. How do forests balance or support individual and collective consciousness physically and psychically?
ELIAS: Physically and psychically… First of all with the most obvious, it is a matter of interconnectedness. You are interconnected with everything in your world and beyond in a manner that is much more than you realize. Therefore, how do forests influence?
They influence in a very significant manner in many, many, many different capacities. Not only are they tremendously supportive of your atmosphere, which they are, but they are supportive of you in EVERY manner physically, energetically, life-wise. They are supportive of you in the capacity of every aspect of them in what they draw in and what they output, what they support in relation to life, and in every capacity.
Energetically, forests are equally as affecting as oceans. Your oceans are not merely bodies of water; they are a tremendous receptacle for life.
What are the two most important components that give life in your world?
ETHAN: Air and water.
ELIAS: Correct. Water and air. They are the two most important components to sustain life: air and water. In this, your oceans and your forests are the seat of all of that. Therefore, they are the center of all life, which includes you. Therefore it would be easier to express, “How are they NOT affecting of you?”
ETHAN: Yes.
ELIAS: And in that, I would express there is no way that they are not affecting of you.
ETHAN: Yes.
ELIAS: There is no aspect in which they are not affecting of you. Individually, collectively, specifically and in general, they are continuously affecting of you. The factor that they house or home so many other life forms is what generates your ability to continue.
I would express that you are a tremendously hardy species. And in that, you are also tremendously adaptable, which is a considerable benefit. But – I would also express that it would be exceptionally difficult, near impossible, for you to continue existence without both of those factors, without your oceans and your forests.
I would express that how are they affecting of you collectively? Allow yourselves to imagine you are a reflection of your forests, and your forests are reflections of you. Each plant, each tree is a reflection of each individual, and each individual is a reflection of each tree and each plant.
Therefore in that, they give to you – those forests – not only physical expressions that sustain life in your definition of life, but they also, being an actual living expression of interconnectedness, are continuously projecting an energy that promotes that.
Therefore beyond the physical, energetically they are continuously promoting and encouraging expansion and awareness and experience of interconnectedness. Therefore, I would express that they are very important.
ETHAN: Yes.
ELIAS: Next question.
ETHAN: What alternative focal points, for example production methods or technologies, would best enable us as a collective shifting away from actions causing deforestation?
ELIAS: (18-second pause) I would express that you are already moving in those directions. You are aware.
ETHAN: Yes.
ELIAS: What I would express is, it is not necessarily a matter of technology; it is a matter of expanding awareness in which you are paying attention to what is genuinely important. Therefore, moving in directions using your technology, which you already are, but more so, in the expression of promoting what is to your greatest benefit in a genuine capacity, recognizing what is ultimately important. And what is that? What is ultimately important, in a very simple and basic capacity to you, is your survival.
ETHAN: Yes.
ELIAS: And your growth, your evolution. That is what is ultimately important to you as a species, is your existence.
In that, it is a matter of clearly defining that in a more realistic and balanced capacity, that what is important to your existence is not money, is not power, is not dominance. What is important to your existence is empowerMENT, rather than power, interconnectedness rather than dominance, and balance rather than money.
In that, it is the implementation of what balance actually is and the recognition in a genuine capacity that balance cannot be achieved in segments. Balance either is or it is not – in the whole, not in part, not in pieces. In this, balance is that state of being and expression of being in harmony with yourself and everything else. That is balance.
Balance cannot be achieved without presence. Therefore, what is ultimately important is to be developing and using your technology in conjunction with your own expansion in relation to what is ultimately important.
This is not about philosophy. It is not about spirituality in the common use of that terminology. It is about your existence, that spirituality includes physical expression. It includes everything about you, and everything about your world and everything about your universe.
In this, as I have expressed, you are resourceful and you are definitely adaptable as a species. But in that, it definitely is a matter of genuinely moving in a direction of what is actually important, and how you adapt to your greatest benefit and how you continue to exist in a manner that will continue to promote growth, that will continue to promote expansion, which is the reason that you are shifting.
In that, I would express that in relation to technology and the development of that, you are already doing it; it is merely a matter of how you employ it – not what you create, but what you do with what you create. You incorporate exceptional minds, great determination, tremendous creativity and tremendous imagination. And in that, you are reflecting yourselves in the expansion of your technology on a daily basis. It increases and increases and increases very consistently and steadily in how much you are advancing and how quickly you are advancing technologically. That is not necessarily the question; it is what you do with it that is the question – how you use it to your greatest benefit.
ETHAN: And that could be said for a lot of things, like money.
ELIAS: Precisely!
ETHAN: Okay. Next topic regarding Greece’s debt: Can you highlight the unseen layers of corruption and manipulation that contributed to that situation, or the current situation?
ELIAS: Repeat.
ETHAN: Regarding Greece’s debt, can you highlight the unseen layers of corruption and manipulation that contributed to the situation?
ELIAS: (Pauses, then coughs) Explain in what capacity, or explain the point of the question.
ETHAN: Well, we’re not trying to ask from a point of victimhood, mainly sort of to understand how people make money/power plays underlyingly and how that might not be seen by the rest of the public. And sort of like trust issues with banks and governments and corruption that takes place on that level.
ELIAS: To what purpose?
ETHAN: Mm… to call them out on it? To be aware of it?
ELIAS: What I would express to you is… a validation to all of you in the direction of investigating and being aware. What I would also express to you is that if your purpose is to call out, or to, in your terms, expose or to make accountable, then I would express to you that you are moving in an unproductive direction that...
ETHAN: Judgment.
ELIAS: ....will likely lead you in the direction of disappointment and frustration and will not accomplish what you want. That is not the direction to move in.
And this is an excellent example of what I have been expressing to all of you over and over again about being aware of what you are doing and what type of energy you are projecting and therefore, what type of energy you are contributing to. Are you contributing to that expansion of interconnectedness and the value of yourselves as individuals and collectively and a species? Or are you opposing, and blaming, and accusing, and therefore moving in the direction of generating conflict?
This is what the previous question was addressing to.
ETHAN: Yes.
ELIAS: What you DO with it, what you do with information, what you do with manifestations, what you do with technology. Not that it is a question of the DEVELOPMENT of it, or a question of whether you are aware of actions that occur in your reality, or that you are or are not aware of individuals moving in what they think of as being secretive directions. Obviously it is not that secretive...
ETHAN: No.
ELIAS: ...if you are aware of it, and you are.
ETHAN: Yes.
ELIAS: In that, it is not a matter of matching energy, or BLAMING, or demanding or forcing other individuals to be accountable or to incorporate responsibility for their participation, their involvement or their actions. It is not for you to dictate! That is not your responsibility, that is not your job, and, in addition to that, it matters not how much you expose or that you think you expose. When you move in those directions, you are generating an opposing energy, and by generating an opposing and blaming and accusing expression and energy, what happens? Do most individuals in your world listen to you?
ETHAN: No.
ELIAS: No, they do not. Therefore do you actually accomplish what you want to accomplish? Generally no, you do not. For you are approaching the situation in the same energy that you are opposing! Therefore, it is pointless – unless that is precisely what you want to do.
ETHAN: No.
ELIAS: And it would incorporate a point, for then you would be successful if that is precisely what you want to do.
ETHAN: Yes.
ELIAS: In this, if that is NOT what you want to do, if that is NOT what you want to be engaging, I would express that you are moving in directions – even by incorporating the question and entertaining the ideas, you are moving in the direction of setting yourself in an expression of frustration, disappointment and definitely dissatisfaction, and most definitely not accomplishing. For those individuals that will listen to you are only the individuals that agree with you. You are not informing other individuals; you are not changing the perception of other individuals.
(Emphatically) People do not want to listen to accusations unless they agree and want to participate in a mob.
ETHAN: Hm.
ELIAS: And generally, the reason that they move in those types of expressions is that they already perceive their own life to be threatened and dissatisfying, and that is what motivates them to move in that type of direction of accusation and blame. They want a victim to replace themselves.
ETHAN: Yes.
ELIAS: Is that what you want? Is that the direction that you want to move in, being a victim and then expressing a scapegoat victim to take your place as the victim? I doubt it.
In this, this is not a productive, beneficial direction to engage, my friend. What is much more beneficial is to be expressing yourselves freely without fear, without reservation and without concern as to other individuals’ perceptions, but in a capacity in which you are being responsible to you. For when you are being responsible to you, who is primary? The outside source, or you?
ETHAN: You are primary.
ELIAS: You. Yes. When you are being responsible to you, you are primary, and you are occupying yourself with YOUR choices. Therefore, you are aware of what is occurring around you; you are aware of what is being engaged and what interests you and what you are curious about and what you hold opinions about in relation to the world around you. It is not that you are oblivious, or that you give yourself no information, for you are interconnected.
But in that, that is precisely the point. It is about YOUR choices and what YOU do – not what you hold other individuals accountable for. That is the perpetuation of consequence. And how much time and information have we devoted to the subject of consequence and how UNbeneficial that is to all of you?
ETHAN: Hm.
ELIAS: Therefore, is that what you want to promote?
ETHAN: No.
ELIAS: [Do you want to promote] perpetuation of consequence as a significant factor in your lives, in your world and reinforce it within yourselves, and therefore create more of it within yourselves, which is destructive? I would very much encourage you otherwise. You are much more valuable than that, and you deserve much more.
When you perceive injustice, it is not a matter of matching that. That does not create justice. Consequence does not create justice. When you perceive injustice, then it is a matter of you being aware of your choices. What are your choices? What can you engage, yourself? Or how can you use the power of all of those individuals that agree with you to be expressing in a manner that is different and promotes the greatest benefit rather than what you are accustomed to in relation to consequences and blame, and that other individuals should be expressing responsibility for their actions? That is definitely not paying attention to you or your own choices; that is that old familiar expression of what? Dominance! Wanting to dictate to other individuals, setting a standard: what is right, what is wrong in absolutes, and expressing the absolutes that they must be held to in those guidelines of what is right and what is wrong, what is acceptable, what is not acceptable, and dictating to other individuals how they should be responsible for themselves.
ETHAN: Trying to control behavior.
ELIAS: Precisely. That is an excellent example of what I have expressed information about repeatedly in what are you paying attention to and how are you projecting your energy – what are you participating in, in your own individual life and expression in an entirely different situation, different location. You are not in a war, you are not in a particular location, you are not particularly participating physically in a conspiracy or a direction that may have or may not have led to an individual’s disengagement. (Loudly) And in all of that, you have also negated the choice of the individual.
ETHAN: To experience that, yes.
ELIAS: No individual can choose for you whether you will participate and continue in physical focus or whether you will not, regardless of what they do. That is the choice of every individual themselves.
ETHAN: It’s cooperation but it’s just unseen, I guess.
ELIAS: Yes it is cooperation, and in that, I am very much understanding and aware of your beliefs and your guidelines in relation to victimhood, and in that, that individuals can, and often do, generate actions that are violent or intrusive or harmful to other individuals. Yes, you are correct, and I am understanding the perception in relation to different guidelines and that that may not be acceptable in relation to your own guidelines, and I acknowledge that. And they are your guidelines to hold, but not necessarily to project as a standard in relation to other individuals. And, regardless of HOW intrusive you are to another individual or how abusive or how violent or how harmful you are to another individual, you cannot generate that choice for them. THEY must generate the choice to disengage or not. You do not have that power – and THAT aspect has been lost entirely.
ETHAN: Yes.
ELIAS: Every individual in the entire scenario plays a role and generates choices, but all of you are playing roles also and generating choices. Therefore, once again, which choices will you engage? Which choices are to your greatest benefit? Is it ever to your greatest benefit to be projecting your attention outside of yourself to the point that you are so unaware of yourself that you are participating in actions that are actually contrary to what you believe? How is that to your greatest benefit?
ETHAN: If you are being present with self?
ELIAS: Correct.
ETHAN: (Pause) Okay. Um… that sort of changes how I would address the second part of that (Elias laughs) just a little bit, because we sort of discussed injustices and does ignoring cause damage and sort of went around in circles. Because it’s hard to distinguish when we’re opposing others or opposing our own choices to express, but I think you went through that quite well.
ELIAS: (Laughs) And I would express to you, my friend, can ignorance be damaging? Yes it can. Knowledge is power, and empowering. And therefore, I would express that that is an aspect of why I engage information with all of you. For the more information you have, the more aware you become, the more empowered you are, and the more important you recognize yourselves to be as individuals. Therefore, the less suggestible you are to blindly following, and the less suggestible you are to being a victim, and therefore also the less likely it will be that you will be generating genuine trauma as you expand. Therefore, yes, ignorance can be destructive. It can be damaging.
ETHAN: Okay. On to the next...
ELIAS: But –
ETHAN: Oh, sorry.
ELIAS: – it is also important to remember: How do you address to ignorance? By sharing and example, NOT by dictating or instructing. For in that, if you are dictating and instructing, you defeat the point, for the purpose is to aid in individuals NOT being a victim. If you are instructing or dictating, then you are aiding in CREATING victims. You are ENCOURAGING victims, for you are discounting and devaluing the individuals’ abilities themselves: “They do not know enough;" "They are not enough.”
No, it is a matter of expressing examples that attract other individuals’ attention and inspires them to emulate, or even to copy, and sharing – which INCLUDES the other individual. It does not dictate to them; it recognizes them as important, and that they are a participant.
ETHAN: Which is why I think celebrities are such a powerful sort of element in the current society with movies and films.
ELIAS: I would agree. For, these are individuals that choose to place themselves in a position of notoriety, or physical exposure, and therefore also place themselves in a position of being very obvious examples. Even if that is not their intention, that is the position that they place themselves in if they choose that type of role. If they choose to be in that type of position, they are also automatically choosing to be an example in an obvious manner, and that is expressed to tremendously more individuals throughout the world.
ETHAN: Yes. Okay. On to the next section on sea level rise. Do you have a probability in how much in feet the global sea levels will rise on average?
ELIAS: (Pause) The sea levels?
ETHAN: Yes.
ELIAS: What I would express to you is they are averaging approximately 1-2 inches per year.
ETHAN: For how many more years?
ELIAS: That may seem to not be much, but – if you are calculating, and you incorporate the idea of 1-2 inches per year… Let me express in this manner: If the sea level rises 6 inches, or 10 inches, that incorporates an affectingness of land mass. Imagine your coastline; in that, 6 inches of water level rise would indent the coastline approximately half a mile, perhaps more; [it] may even be to a mile, dependent upon the area. Ten could be 2-4 miles. A mile is a considerable distance, my friend. How many structures can occupy a mile? That is a considerable distance.
We are not speaking of an inch equals a foot of land underwater. We are speaking an inch equals a considerable amount of land under water. Therefore, you can incorporate the mathematics. If you are moving in the direction presently of 1-2 inches per year of rising levels, you will be generating a considerably dangerous rising level in a considerably short amount of time, will you not?
ETHAN: Yes. (Pause)
On Antarctica, is it likely that Antarctica's ice will melt significantly? Could you express...
ELIAS: It already is.
ETHAN: Yeah, I saw articles. What sort of percentage would you describe would eventually melt away, of the ice?
ELIAS: That would be difficult, actually, to answer, for the planet is generating so many changes structurally at this point. I would express that there is a significant amount already that is in process of melt. There is already a significant amount of the inner structure that is melting, not merely the outer edges.
ETHAN: Yes.
ELIAS: It is not merely the outer layers that are breaking; it is that the inner aspects, the inner core, is melting.
ETHAN: Yes.
ELIAS: And in that, I would express to you, as beautiful as it may visually seem from an aerial photograph to fly over Antarctica and view the TREMENDOUS glaciers and the TREMENDOUS structures of ice, and from the top of them to view these beautiful patterns of blue in that ice, that is the damning factor. As beautiful as it is, it is the evidence and the indicator of that melt. There, in your terms, should be no blue.
ETHAN: Okay.
ELIAS: Therefore, if you research and you offer yourself pictures in your research of how much blue there is in relation to Antarctica, there should be almost none.
ETHAN: Wow.
ELIAS: And I would express to you at the turn of your previous century, there WAS almost none. (Pause)
ETHAN: Why is it the core rather than the outer edge? Does it have to do with being closer to the earth’s surface and the heat from the earth? Does that kind of describe that?
ELIAS: Partially; not entirely. But… What allows microwaves to be successful? How do they work?
[The timer for the session rings]
ETHAN: Wave energy? I don’t know. Invisible?
ELIAS: Cook from the inside out, in very simple terms. They move from the center out. That is how they heat.
ETHAN: Okay.
ELIAS: From the center outward.
ETHAN: Oh, I see. Okay.
We’ve probably run out of time. (Both laugh)
ELIAS: I shall be anticipating our next meeting, my friend.
ETHAN: Yes.
ELIAS: These are excellent questions, and it has been an excellent discussion.
ETHAN: Thank you so much.
ELIAS: (Laughs) I encourage you and your friends in this direction. I also encourage you to genuinely contemplate what we have discussed. It is important, and you all are participating in it. In that, be aware of what you are expressing and what you are participating in. It is always to your greatest benefit.
Until our next meeting, my dear friend, in tremendous encouragement, great supportiveness and wondrous lovingness and friendship, as always, au revoir.
ETHAN: ‘Bye, Elias.
(Elias departs after 1 hour)
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