Safety
Topics:
”Safety”
”Energy Exchange with Tomkin”
“Leaving One House for Another”
“Trusting the Information You Give Yourself”
Friday, April 24, 2015 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael), Tara (Niella) and Alan (Sessly)
ELIAS: Good evening!
TARA: Hi Elias! How are you?
ELIAS: (Laughs) As always. And yourself?
TARA: I’m very well. I have a surprise for you tonight.
ELIAS: Excellent!
TARA: I know there’s no surprises, but (laughs) my friend Al is here, joining me.
ELIAS: Welcome!
ALAN: Thank you.
ELIAS: And what shall we discuss?
TARA: Well, we have a whole bunch of things. Basically, I just had a few questions about family alignments, that sort of thing, and then I had some questions, and then at the end Al has a few questions for you.
ELIAS: Very well.
TARA: Okay. I have… Well, a lot’s happened since we last talked. You said I would be busy, but that was an understatement. (Both laugh) I think it’s been about four years or so since we spoke. And I now have a new partner, and his name is Chris. And I was just wondering if I’m correct. I was trying to guess his family and alignment. I could be totally wrong, but I was just wondering, is his family Tumold and his alignment Zuli?
ELIAS: Correct.
TARA: Oh! Score one for me! (Both laugh) And is he emotional?
ELIAS: Yes.
TARA: Yep. And is he intermediate?
ELIAS: Yes.
TARA: Oh, yes! I’m getting good at this. (Both laugh) And my impression is that he is… I want to call him a newbie. He’s innocent. He hasn’t lived a lot of past lives with me.
ELIAS: I would agree.
TARA: I don’t want to get into too much with that because it could be--I haven’t done enough reading on it, I guess, but… So, are most of his lives in the future?
ELIAS: In relation to focuses, yes.
TARA: But is he new? Like he’s just starting out?
ELIAS: That is a relative term. The idea of what you think of as a new soul or an old soul is actually terminology that you use for individuals that may have few focuses in this dimension or many, many, many focuses in this dimension. Therefore, a new soul in your terms would be an individual that incorporates few focuses in this dimension.
TARA: Oh. That’s interesting.
ELIAS: And an old soul would incorporate many, many.
TARA: Okay. Thank you for that.
ELIAS: You are welcome.
TARA: Okay, I’ve been trying to guess Al’s family. Al hasn’t read about the families or the stuff on the internet yet. He’s new to the Elias material. I’ve been trying to fill him in, and like I said to Mary, it’s probably completely distorted. (Both laugh) But my impression is that Al is of the Gramada family and either that or Sumari family, but Gramada somewhere in there, or maybe Sumari family Gramada aligned?
ELIAS: Reverse.
TARA: Yeah. Gramada family and Sumari aligned. And is Al intermediate?
ELIAS: Correct.
TARA: Ooh! That’s interesting. And I don’t know if he’s political, emotional or the other--I can’t get that.
ELIAS: Political.
TARA: Political. Okay. Thanks. Hmm. Thank you.
ELIAS: You are welcome.
TARA: Okay. I’ve written out my questions about four or five times because the events in my life have changed so much in the last few days, I had to scrap all my last questions. (Both laugh) It’s been crazy. Okay.
Since we last spoke, I discovered that the underlying problem you said I needed to identify, I think I did. You said that there was this issue that pervaded all aspects of my life and I really needed to identify it. Am I correct that the issue is the lack of trust in myself to create a reality in such a way that I will keep myself safe or feel safe?
ELIAS: Yes. The aspect of safety is the key element.
TARA: And I get frustrated because I don’t trust myself to create what I want, including safety?
ELIAS: Correct.
TARA: Ah. Okay. So I’ve been trying to work on that, but I found that the only thing I found that really works is to just relax and let my energy flow, and trust my gut and the urges that I give myself. And it’s--I seem to give myself little bread crumbs to follow, and if I do that it seems to be better.
ELIAS: I would agree.
Now; in this, what also would be significantly helpful would be for you to define to yourself what feels safe and what does not feel safe. Remember: safety is a feeling. In this, when you can identify, when you can define what feels safe, you can use that, expanding on it, and that gives you a direction in which whatever you are engaging, whatever direction you are in, whatever action you are engaging, whatever interaction you are engaging, you will have a guideline, in a manner of speaking, of what feels safe to you.
Now; in that same regard, it is also important to define what does not feel safe. And therefore, first of all, in many situations you can avoid not safe expressions or interactions or situations. And if you discover yourself in an unsafe situation or interaction, that will give you information to identify what is not safe and therefore also know what your choices are, know what to do to place yourself in a safe situation or interaction.
These are very important points, for generally speaking, the difficulty arises when you are experiencing agitation or anxiety or even fear and you cannot quite identify why. And this occurs many times in relation to interactions with other individuals.
As a hypothetical example, let us say that you are interacting with another individual. And let us say that your assessment of that individual is that you like them.
TARA: Yeah?
ELIAS: And you are interacting with them, but subsequently you begin to feel uncomfortable while you are interacting with this individual. But you like them, and therefore the uncomfortable feeling seems to not match what may be occurring.
And let us say in this hypothetical example that your assessment, beyond liking the other individual, is that the other individual is friendly and has not actually engaged any action towards you that seems to be unsafe, and has not engaged any action towards you that you would identify as conflict or attitude or being harmful or mean to you. And therefore, it becomes even more confusing.
Now; in this same hypothetical situation, let us say that one piece of this individual that you are not necessarily paying attention to objectively or may not even be noticing, or perhaps you notice it lightly, is that this individual incorporates a tendency to be very social and interactive and engaging at times, and at other times the individual is very quiet and reserved and not engaging.
Now; in that, in relation to the subject of safety, let us say in this hypothetical example that without thinking about it, you have experienced relationships pastly in which the other individual is unpredictable, that they are not dependable, that their mood fluctuates and that that created an unsafe situation for you. For in that volatility with the other individual, let us say that at times in their mood changing from one moment to another that the individual became not only unpredictable but hurtful.
Now; when you engage this new individual, the mere factor that the individual may change their expression and not be consistent, and be very interactive and sociable at times, but also be very quiet and reserved at times and non-interactive, that can be a trigger. That can be a trigger in relation to past associations, that unpredictability is not safe. It does not feel safe. Regardless that the individual presently may not be engaging any action that is harmful or that is distressing or that is--
TARA: The unpredictability actually becomes a trigger?
ELIAS: Precisely.
TARA: Yeah.
ELIAS: The factor that the individual is changeable and not consistent will trigger that association that the individual is unpredictable. And unpredictability is not safe.
TARA: Yeah. I mean, it’s from a past association. Yeah.
ELIAS: And therefore, you will feel uncomfortable and not necessarily know why. This is the reason that it is so important to be defining what is safe to you. How do you define safety? What feels safe to you? And what does not feel safe?
By examining your usual activities, your usual interactions, and evaluating when are the moments that I do not feel safe and when are the moments that I do, and where are the places that I feel safe and where are the places that I do not feel safe, for location or the environment is another significant factor in relation to feeling safe.
TARA: On…
ELIAS: I may offer another hypothetical example.
TARA: Elias?
ELIAS: The individual--
TARA: (Quietly) Oh, he can’t hear me.
ELIAS: --incorporates different actions in different rooms in their home. Therefore, if you are, let us say, partners with another individual, you will likely, without thinking, automatically gravitate to certain rooms if you are expressing a conflict. And let us say that the room of choice for conflict is the kitchen. Even if you are in the bedroom when the conflict begins, you will gravitate and you will move to the kitchen to continue and engage the conflict. Therefore, that room develops an association.
TARA: Okay. I understand. I think that I experienced that in looking for a new house, when you talk about places. I had this urge to go look at a house, and I followed my gut and I found a property that’s exciting, and everything about it, it’s been pleasantly surprising me. And I felt comfortable there, because it’s at the end of a cul-de-sac, it’s up on a hill, and it’s overlooking a view. And that is where I’ve always lived, where I feel comfortable. I don’t feel comfortable down on the flat. And after talking about it with my mom, I identified that those are things that make me feel comfortable.
ELIAS: Which is another significant factor. And when you examine that, if you are in a physical location that is up above other locations, there are two significant factors in that placement, is that one, you can visually see more. Therefore, you are without even thinking about it feeling safer, for you are more aware of what is occurring around you, for you have a vantage point that you can physically see from…
TARA: Mm. I realized that one. I guessed that one.
ELIAS: And the other is in higher locations rather than lower locations, you feel safer, for there is an automatic escape route. If you are in a lower location, it creates the feeling of being enclosed.
TARA: Yeah. I find it quite claustrophobic.
ELIAS: Yes. And when you are in a higher location, it produces the feeling that you have an escape route.
TARA: Okay. With that land that we’re talking about, I asked Tomkin about it, and he keeps showing me in the bottom corner of it, that there’s this black energy or something there. Is there a burial ground there?
ELIAS: (Pause) No.
TARA: Is there something there? Because he’s trying to tell me, and I can’t figure out what it is.
ELIAS: There is a significant energy deposit.
TARA: Oh. Not another one.
ELIAS: Now; in that, I would express that that can be avoided. But yes, that is what is being presented to you.
TARA: Okay. I wanted to ask you about the Tomkin thing tonight. Just to give everybody a bit of background, with all the changes that was happening in my life I ended up becoming a police officer. I changed careers. I moved up north, and I quickly derailed myself somehow from that work scenario. I ruptured a disk in my back and I developed cancer. And during my seven months in bed, I had a lot of time to improve my communication with Tomkin, so it became more effortless.
And now it feels like he’s using the right side of my brain for exchange of ideas, and yet I can still talk and hear other people. He shows me images when it’s not clear by writing words on a blackboard or actually flashing me pictures. Is there a lot of distortion with my interpretation or is it fairly clear?
ELIAS: I would express that it is fairly clear.
TARA: Oh. Well, this is interesting because it’s not in the way I expected it to happen, because it’s like he’s on the right side, I’m on the left side, and I can have a three-way conversation with him and the person in front of me, add my own feelings. It’s very bizarre.
ELIAS: (Laughs) And in that, were you expecting or anticipating that you would be entirely removed?
TARA: I was! I thought it would be like Jane Roberts with Seth doing writing, or like Mary and yourself. And I tried to remove myself on numerous occasions, and the visual images I was seeing was of you, and I walking over a bridge under these like Japanese trees, but I still couldn’t get out of the picture. (Laughs)
ELIAS: What I would express to you, my friend, very realistically, is that first of all, even in relation to Jane, that individual did not entirely remove herself--
TARA: Oh, I am aware of that. Yes, I am. Yeah.
ELIAS: (Inaudible) that she was semi-aware of the interactions with that energy exchange. Let me express to you that that action of entirely removing your objective awareness from an energy exchange is considerably rare, that there are very few individuals within the entirety of the world. In the billions of people that occupy your world, there are so few that engage that type of action, that they would number less than ten.
TARA: Oh wow! Okay. But he keeps telling me that we’re going to be working together somehow. And I’m not sure. Is it going to change or is it going to remain the way it is and somehow we’ll be working together to help other people or animals, or…? I’ve been doing this for a while now, and I don’t know what to do with this fantastic communication that I have with him.
ELIAS: First of all, it is a matter of you acknowledging your participation. Remember: it is a team action between you and the other essence. It is not only the other essence expressing. It is an involvement between the two of you. Therefore, your input is valuable. Meaning your direction and how you want to apply that information and that energy exchange is an important factor.
Most energy exchanges are not expressed with one particular agenda, so to speak. Therefore, there is a considerable openness for the input of the individual that is participating in physical focus.
What I would express is also your inspirations, for what you may want to do with this energy exchange are not solely your own.
TARA: Oh. Okay.
ELIAS: That if you are inspired, let us say, to engage this information and this energy exchange in relation to helping other individuals or helping animals, the inspiration that you express is also being influenced by the other essence.
TARA: Okay.
ELIAS: Therefore, it is a cooperative expression. Therefore, when you receive an inspiration in the direction of what you want to use this for, you can be assured that part of your inspiration has been expressed by the other essence. It is not entirely solely yours.
TARA: Okay. I understand.
ELIAS: In that, it is merely a matter of allowing yourself to know that you are the other half of the team, and you are genuinely half of the team. You are not less than, --
TARA: Okay. Thank you.
ELIAS: --and in that, it is a matter of defining what direction you are most comfortable with.
TARA: Ah! Okay. All right. Well, I’ll think about that one. I’m not sure. (Both laugh) It’s exciting, though.
Okay, I have some other questions about that house that I’m looking at. Is it a good match for my energy? It feels like it is.
ELIAS: Yes.
TARA: Okay. And is there anything I need to do to let go of my house that I’m currently living in? Because I created it, I’m fairly enmeshed in it.
ELIAS: In that, what I would express to you--or the most valuable advice that I can offer to you--is to genuinely be creating a perception in relation to your present house, that in a manner of speaking it has been your friend. You have enjoyed it. You have invested in it. It has invested in you, and you are genuinely wanting to share that with other individuals and allow them the same opportunity of enjoyment and appreciation and growth.
TARA: That’s a wonderful way to look at it!
ELIAS: Therefore, you are not leaving behind a manifestation. And--
TARA: I’m sharing it!
ELIAS: --giving up that manifestation.
TARA: Yeah, I’m sharing it.
ELIAS: You are sharing that with other individuals, to give them the same opportunity for growth and enjoyment that you have derived from this location. And your energy will remain as energy deposits to encourage that.
TARA: Okay. That actually makes me excited about leaving, because someone else can enjoy what I’ve enjoyed.
ELIAS: Precisely.
TARA: Yeah. That’s a great way to look at it. That’s fantastic. Thank you. (Both laugh)
Okay. Oh, another weird thing that happened was… Remember ages ago I was asking you about that cross? It looks like a Maltese cross and I was trying to describe it to you because I was seeing it everywhere.
ELIAS: Yes.
TARA: I think it was a bread crumb and it led me to the police, because it turned out that’s their symbol.
ELIAS: Ah!
TARA: And when I got off the train one day for my job interview, I looked up at the building and there was this massive cross, the same cross, on the building. (Elias chuckles) So I’m thinking it was like a little bread crumb, a little message for myself.
But something that’s really bothered me, and I grieved a lot, was that I derailed myself from that process, that policing process, because I really enjoyed it.
ELIAS: Ah. Now; what I would express to you is not necessarily to grieve for that,--
TARA: Okay.
ELIAS: --but in similar to manner to the house, remember that there are many, many, many actions, directions and people that you engage in your lifetimes that are temporary. Most, in actuality, are temporary, but they serve a purpose. They give you information and they add to you in enriching you, especially in expressions that you genuinely appreciate.
But even in those experiences that you deem to be negative, they do enrich you, and they do generate a contribution to whatever your direction is. Therefore, this was a beneficial experience for you.
What I would also express to you is that rather than grieving for that, I would suggest that you genuinely appreciate what you offered to yourself. Because knowing your energy and how you express yourself, I would express that this was very efficient of you (Tara laughs) to allow yourself to engage that direction--but only to a point--and then to generate a significant enough experience to remove yourself from it, for if you had not created that type of significant experience, you likely would not have removed yourself from that direction.
And that was a benefit, for what I would express is that you offered yourself positive and beneficial experiences and tools, and you avoided moving in a direction of despair. And if you would have continued in that direction, it is very, very likely that you would have eventually moved yourself in a direction of considerable frustration and considerable despair.
TARA: Okay. With that despair and frustration that you’re mentioning, because of that grief I wanted to go back to the QPF, the police, in a role as an intel officer. Am I just trying to go back to the past and would generate the same problem, or is it a new path?
ELIAS: It is dependent upon what you would be engaged with and what you would be doing.
TARA: Well, the intel officer sits at a computer.
ELIAS: But even at the computer, what would you be engaging?
TARA: Well, I would be bringing into my reality the events, or becoming aware of all the events, that happen around with counter-terrorism. So although my personality is such that I don’t normally pay attention to those events, they would suddenly become quite forefront in my life.
ELIAS: And what I would express to you is that your desire or your draw to move in that direction is based upon your positive experience with that group, with the organization of the police department. What I would express to you is you gained what is valuable.
TARA: Ah!
ELIAS: And you stopped yourself before it could be affecting of you in a manner that is not a benefit.
TARA: Okay.
ELIAS: You gave yourself valuable information. You gave yourself new tools. And you experienced a positive direction.
TARA: Okay. I wondered that. I was wondering if I was trying to jump back to that positive experience and ignoring the anxiety I was having about thinking about going back there.
ELIAS: Correct.
TARA: Yeah. I think I’ve pretty… Okay.
(To Alan) How much time have we got left, Al? I want you to have time to ask yours. Oh yeah? You’ve got time?
Okay, something that’s been a major issue since I moved back here, and it might be part of the shift: I haven’t done a lot of reading, I admit. It’s brain fog. I’ve been really forgetful, doing really silly things. Al and I were just having a laugh about what I’ve been doing, earlier.
I seem to like blink out or disappear, and then my awareness reappears. And I’m doing a completely different task, and I stand there and have to think about what the heck I was doing. And my back has been really bad, with the ruptured disks, and I’ve been in a lot of pain. I’ve had headaches. And I’m just wondering, what is it related to? Because I can’t figure it out.
ELIAS: Now; this I would express is more a situation of presence. First of all, it is a matter of being more focused and more present and directed, rather than moving in that direction of automatic pilot. That would be the first step.
And that is very easy to do, being in that direction of automatic pilot, especially if you are engaging an energy exchange. For it is very easy to become or to allow yourself to become defocused. For to a significant degree, you do that when you are engaging the energy exchange.
TARA: I do! I go into a trance and I kind of step aside a bit or defocus.
ELIAS: Yes. And it is comfortable and it feels safe, and in that, you can become accustomed to engaging that action of defocusing yourself. And it is very easy to slip into that direction in many other time frameworks in which you are not engaging the energy exchange.
Therefore, this is a significant point: to remember that it is important and valuable to be focused and present and self-directing in those time frameworks--which is most of the time--when you are not engaging that energy exchange, for if you allow yourself to continue to defocus yourself frequently, you lose you. And that is not a benefit to you or to the other essence that you are engaging the energy exchange with.
In this, in addition to being present and being focused, which I would express is an important factor in relation to the energy exchange also, for you require that to be directing--
TARA: Oh. Yes, I understand. Yeah.
ELIAS: Now; in addition to that, what I would express is first of all, what we have discussed in relation to the police department or academy is a significant factor in what I am about to express to you.
In relation to the physical manifestations, it is important for you to not be moving in the perception and the direction of regret and missing that direction, and therefore using the physical manifestation as an objective expression of that regret and missing, but rather to be appreciating what you offered to yourself, to be recognizing the significance of those experiences and that they have been beneficial to you, but that you are moving in a different direction, and therefore appreciating what you received from that experience but also leaving it past.
TARA: Okay.
ELIAS: (Slowly and clearly) Not carrying it with you.
TARA: Okay. I’ll do that.
What time is it? How much…? I just want to leave Al ten minutes. Okay.
Am I in final focus now? I wasn’t before.
ELIAS: Meaning?
TARA: Did I change?
ELIAS: No.
TARA: Okay. So I’m not. Okay.
A quick question about my dogs. They were poisoned recently, at least we think they were. They both lost the use of their hind legs. Was that caused by the chickened pullet gruel, the chemicals in it, or was it more a reflection of something else?
ELIAS: And your impression?
TARA: I think it had to do with what’s happening in Chris and my body, with us having a sore back and sore legs. The dogs were manifesting it, because my dog and his dog both did the same thing.
ELIAS: I would agree.
TARA: Ah! Oh, you poor buggers. (Laughs) The poor dogs! We’ve got to stop doing that!
ELIAS: (Laughs) I would express, it is important to pay attention to what type of energy you are expressing and projecting.
Now; do NOT move in the direction of incorporating personal responsibility, and therefore blaming yourself.
TARA: Okay.
ELIAS: THAT is entirely unproductive.
TARA: Yes. I understand that. I just understand it’s a reflection and we’ll have--I think it was a push to move us out of this house and move on, because we’re both tired and manifesting a bad back.
ELIAS: I would agree.
TARA: Okay. I’m so glad I got that right.
Okay, I’m going to hand it over to Al, because he has some very important questions that we all want to hear the answers to.
ELIAS: Very well.
TARA: Thank you so much, Elias.
ELIAS: You are very welcome, my dear friend.
AL: Hello Elias. How are you?
ELIAS: As always. And yourself?
AL: I’m well, thank you. I have a project that I’ve been working on in front of me, and this has come about from an unknown source in the form of downloads that I can’t even explain. I’d like to know who is helping me.
ELIAS: (Laughs) You.
TARA: You’re helping yourself.
AL: Me.
TARA: Yeah.
ELIAS: I would express that you are tapping into your own information from your own essence.
AL: Okay. It makes sense. So this project I’m working on, do you know if it’s been invented before, before now, or in the future?
ELIAS: And what are you inventing?
AL: It’s an energy-proficient generator, whereby rather than using force to make things work, we use a lot less energy to create that force to make things work.
ELIAS: And your question is has it ever been invented by another individual?
AL: Yes.
ELIAS: Yes.
AL: Hm.
ELIAS: Has it ever been invented by another individual and produced or used en masse? No, not to this present time framework. Futurely, yes.
AL: Okay. So I need to know if I’m on the right track and direction with this project.
ELIAS: And what is your concern?
AL: I’ve had to create some new products to make this, in theory, work, and I was wondering whether these new products are in the right direction.
ELIAS: Such as?
AL: Such as the conductivity of energy from one state to another.
ELIAS: And what products are you engaging presently?
AL: Sorry, what’s the question?
TARA: What products are you making?
AL: The product is a new type of inductive coil system.
ELIAS: I would agree. And are you moving in a successful direction? Yes.
AL: Okay.
TARA: Yea!
AL: So I really had--
TARA: Is it--
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