Session 201504191
Translations: ES

Differences and Preferences


Session 201504191 (Second Test Webinar)
“Differences and Preferences”
“An Irreversible Event in the Shift”

Sunday, April 19, 2015 (Group/Webinar)

Participants: Mary (Michael), Christine (Lurine), Denise (Azura), Jeff B.(Galina), Jeff R., John (Rrussell), Lexa, Lynda (Ruther), Paul (Paneus), Rodney (Zacharie), Wendy B. (Luelyth) and Wendy W.(Myiisha)

ELIAS: Good day!

MODERATOR: Good day! Hi, Elias. Can you hear me?


MODERATOR: Good! (Laughs) Hello again. So, welcome to our second webinar, which is sort of a test, but it seems to be working and you can hear me, which is good.

So, in a slightly different format to last time, what we thought we would do is allocate an hour in a typical sort of group session format, where you talk for the first part and then we engage sort of a question-and-answer period afterwards, within the span of an hour. So presumably you’ll probably talk for half an hour or so and then we’ll ask questions for another half hour, or however it works out. We budget that over the course of one hour…

ELIAS: (Interrupting) And in that, one moment…


ELIAS: I shall modify it, and I shall begin, and then I will signal you to open to questions. Agreed?

MODERATOR: Yeah. That’s fine. I’ll wait for your signal.

ELIAS: Very well.

MODERATOR: Absolutely. Absolutely. The other thing is, so, different from group sessions, what we did this time, if it sort of works for you, is we ran a poll and sort of collected topics.

ELIAS: Which is precisely what I expressed. I will begin, and I will signal you to allow for questions.

MODERATOR: Oh, really. Okay.

ELIAS: So you can dispense with the topic.

MODERATOR: Oh. All righty. Okay. (Laughs)

ELIAS: Very well. Shall I begin?


ELIAS: Very well. And, in accordance with the general energy of the individuals, we will generate the topic of differences. But rather than myself expressing a lecture about the topic, we shall open the discussion immediately and allow individuals to present their questions in relation to that topic of differences of awareness. And you may begin. (Pause)

MODERATOR: So everybody, if you have a question, type it into the box and then I’ll unmute you. Or just say you have a question and I’ll unmute you. (Pause)

Interesting. So, no questions. (Elias laughs) Rodney has a question. Rodney? Sorry. One second.

[System message about all attendees being muted.]

MODERATOR: All right. Rodney?

[Another system message about how to unmute.]

MODERATOR: Rodney? Trying to unmute Rodney, and… This is not working. Rodney, can you unmute yourself? The app will literally not let me unmute, so I am forced to unmute everybody. So my only request would be if you’re not talking, to just mute your mike.

[Another system message that all attendees are muted.]


System message: All attendees are muted and may unmute themselves by pressing *6.

MODERATOR: Can any of you guys unmute yourself?

FEMALE: I can unmute myself.

FEMALE: I just pressed *6 and I unmuted myself, Moderator.

MODERATOR: Okay. For whatever reason, the app is not letting me change to discussion mode, and it’s not letting me mute or unmute anybody. Like literally it’s not letting me do that. It’s some kind of bug.

FEMALE: There. We’re all here.

FEMALE: Here we are. Here we go.

MODERATOR: All right. There must be some kind of delay. Rodney, can you unmute yourself? Okay. Let’s start with somebody else. Does anybody have a question? Anybody?

FEMALE: Here. I’ll ask a question.

MALE: (Inaudible)

MODERATOR: All right.

FEMALE: Who is it? Paul has a question. It’s in the chat box.

PAUL: Oh, it was just a general question, but if somebody else wants to ask another question, go ahead.

FEMALE: Okay, here’s… Can I ask a question? My automatic response to differences is often irritation, anger, wanting to instruct them. Besides just learning to be more relaxed, do you have any helpful tips?

ELIAS: Very well. First of all, this is a very common situation in which you may be expressing more knowledge or more of an awareness than another individual. And when you are engaging conversation with them, what may be helpful for each of you is to ask yourself the question [of] how important is it to you that you are expressing your point.

In this, it may not be as important to be actually expressing your point, but there may also be irritation that you may be experiencing in relation to what the other individual is expressing themself, that it may be a subject that you are uninterested in, or it may be the manner in which they are expressing themself, or they may be attempting to instruct you and you are becoming frustrated or impatient with them.

In this also, move your attention, first of all, to you, and use the opportunity to your greatest benefit. Not every individual is in the same awareness as yourself. Some are expressing a greater. Some are expressing a lesser. But there is always an opportunity that you are presenting yourself with.

Therefore, the question would be: “What is to my greatest benefit in this moment?” If you are anxious or irritated or frustrated, how can you turn that within yourself to become a benefit? Not that you must be interested in what the other individual is expressing, and not that you must like how they are expressing themself, but you are in that situation, and you have presented it to yourself for a reason.

Therefore, the question is, “What is the reason that I presented this individual to myself? And how can I use this situation and this moment to my greatest benefit?” That may be not necessarily entirely interacting with the individual, allowing them to express themself in whatever manner they choose and merely listening, and while you are listening, interacting with yourself in addressing to what is the irritation.

If the irritation is that your assessment is they are wasting your time, you presented that situation to yourself, therefore obviously it is not a waste of time. Therefore, how can you use that time yourself to your greatest benefit? It is not necessary that you find a commonality with the other individual, but what IS important is that you stop judging the other individual and discover some expression within yourself that can aid you to use that time to your greatest benefit.

Now; if the other individual is expressing less of a self-awareness than yourself and is being aggressive or intrusive, or is expressing in some manner that is harmful or hurtful to you, that is also an opportunity to express your power individually. Which is not necessarily to express elevating yourself in relation to the other individual, but choosing. You are not planted in front of the other individual. You have choices.

In that, you can excuse yourself or you can express yourself in a genuine manner, that you value yourself to a degree that you do not want to participate in that type of interaction. There are many different avenues that you can choose to engage in these types of situations. What holds you in a trap or in a stuck position is when you are only paying attention to the feeling that you are expressing, and therefore immobilizing yourself and not giving yourself choices, and not being aware of what IS to your greatest benefit.

This is also a significant situation and expression that most individuals discover themselves in, in that you are paying so much attention to the feeling that you are experiencing, which is what? A signal. And therefore, not necessarily paying attention to what that statement is that you are presenting to yourself in relation to that signal.

Feelings are strong, and they are designed to be paid attention to. But they are not designed to be lingered on or dwelt upon, and they are not designed to be continuing. Therefore, it is a matter of acknowledging the signal in the same manner that you would a traffic signal, that it exists, and you recognize it, and now you are discovering what the statement is within yourself about that signal.

Therefore, that would be one of the most important aspects in those types of situations, is not to be allowing the feeling to dictate your behavior and your choices, but using that feeling as a signal to give yourself the opportunity to express your choices.

FEMALE: Okay. Thank you. I actually managed to do that, although I wasn’t the nicest person on earth when I did that. (Both laugh)

ELIAS: Now, let me address to another factor in that. This is another important factor, this factor of being nice, and it is important to most individuals. Most individuals want to be nice, and then subsequently discount themselves or judge themselves in varying degrees, some more than others, when they are not nice. And they express to themself that they did not address the situation in the best manner possible or in their optimal manner, which is not necessarily correct. For "nice" is not the same as "good." And "not nice" is not the same as "bad."

Therefore, in that, in a particular moment, what I would express to you is that you will be less "not nice"—not that you may necessarily be "nice"—if you are recognizing what you are feeling and not reacting to the feeling. If you are not allowing the feeling to dictate your behavior, you are less likely to be "not nice."

FEMALE: Okay. So, I was nice enough. (Both laugh)

MODERATOR: This is the moderator here. I’m just going to invite people to unmute yourselves and just jump in if you have questions. (Pause) I guess in the meanwhile I can just keep things rolling.

You talked about – oh, Paul, did you unmute yourself?

PAUL: Oh yeah, I just did.

MODERATOR: Paul, go ahead.

PAUL: Yeah. I have a question, Elias. Along the same lines as what you were just talking about, the feeling and then uncovering a statement, does that also apply in situations whereby you’re actively going over to talk to an individual as well? Like if you want to meet them or understand them as a friend, but you’re taking the initiative?

ELIAS: And in that, clarify your question in relation to the application. Are you asking is the feeling that motivates you or that influences you to initiate an action one that you should recognize but not necessarily hold?

PAUL: That’s it. Yeah, let’s say you’re going to meet an individual or going into a task, and your body consciousness is giving you a flag that seems like it should be telling you to hesitate or don’t go forward. Should we be paying attention to our body consciousness and say, “Okay, maybe it’s not the right time to go meet this person or go do this activity?"

ELIAS: Definitely. Definitely. What I would express is that that may be a combination of your intuition and your body consciousness. Meaning, remember: energy knows no boundaries, therefore it is not limited to physical proximity. Therefore, you may not be in physical proximity with another individual. You may be intending to meet with another individual, and you may be offering that feeling to yourself of being uncomfortable or hesitant. Yes. Definitely, I would express that you listen to that.

For there are reasons. Your body consciousness is responding to energy and is expressing that feeling as a signal to gain your attention. And in that, it may be coupled with your intuition, which is also connecting with the energy in which you intend to proceed.

And therefore, you are giving yourself information that the timing may be not correct or that there may be some expression affecting of the other individual and they may not be in a type of expression or mood that will be compatible or cooperative with you. Or it could be neither of those, and there could be some action that is in play that is unforeseen, or you do not see yet or the other individual does not see yet, but is already in motion that may interrupt or disturb your interaction together.

Therefore, yes. I would definitely advocate that when your body consciousness, when your intuition is expressing a hesitation to you, listen to that.

PAUL: How do you know it’s not fear that’s doing the flagging that is coming across as a signal from your body consciousness?

ELIAS: I would express that even if it IS fear, that it is to be listened to. The idea of engaging an action to push past fear is ludicrous, and it does not produce success. It merely encourages you to not pay attention to what you are feeling or to override it.

And when you override what you are expressing within your body consciousness, you can suppress it, but it will surface in other directions. As I have expressed from the onset of this forum, energy will not be contained, therefore it will be expressed. And in that, when you attempt to override a feeling, then you are moving in directions of denying your own communications to yourself, even fear.

Fear is a feeling that may not necessarily be valid in a moment, but it is a signal. And in that signal, you are presenting to yourself a statement. And it is important that you listen to what the statement is.

In that, you can evaluate, if you are listening and are paying attention. Let us say that you are experiencing a signal of fear. Remember: it is not a matter of allowing the feeling to dictate your choice or your behavior. Therefore, if it is a feeling of fear, it is a matter of allowing yourself to evaluate, "What is the statement? What is the message? What is the fear about? What is the threat?"

When you do that, you will give yourself an answer that you can further evaluate. Is this fear actually valid, or is it an anticipation of my own consequences? Therefore, in that, you offer yourself more choices, more opportunities, and you can evaluate what is to your greatest benefit.

Therefore, it matters not, even if it is a fear. The point is not to be allowing your feelings to dictate your choices and your behavior.

PAUL: So, in an activity last night where I was trying to push past my fear, my body consciousness suddenly said, “Oh. You suddenly have to go to the bathroom, very urgently.” And so I turned away from my planned activity and answered my body consciousness request. So that was an appropriate following of my body consciousness communication, right?


PAUL: Okay.

MODERATOR: Can I jump in on behalf of Rodney, who… His mike’s not working, but I’m going to read his question. And he says that “My question is I very much allow others to be who they are, and in doing so, I do not have a problem with differences. Please comment.”

ELIAS: You do not have problem with differences? That is quite a blanket statement, and I would also express somewhat presumptuous. For let me express to you, you may not necessarily generate a judgment in relation to other individuals in relation to difference, but you may turn it to yourself, in relation to another individual [expressing] in the manner that they choose and that is in keeping with their awareness of themself and their reality. And you may turn your judgment upon yourself, that you do not necessarily offer them enough attention or enough patience or time, or that your attention wanders.

And in that, what I would express is, if you genuinely are entirely accepting of differences, I would applaud you and express bravo. But it is not always a matter of judgment of the other individual that occurs in a lack of acceptance of differences, and it is not always an expression of irritation or impatience with other individuals that occurs in relation to differences. Many individuals turn the discounting or the questioning or the judgment on themselves. And I would express to you, Zacharie, that you are an expert at that.

MODERATOR: Any questions, anybody? I’ll allow just a couple of seconds here, just in case it takes time for people to unmute.

MALE: I have a question, Elias. In this R-wave, the religious wave that we’re going through, how will these types of interactions play out differently once the religious wave is complete?

ELIAS: What I would express for the most part is that this wave is very strongly emphasizing the yes-and-no statements. And in that, it is very much encouraging all of you to be paying more attention and to be expanding your awareness in relation to those very important points of the yes and no.

Therefore, how will you be expressing differently subsequently to this wave? It is very likely that this wave, more than any of the others, will influence and encourage you to be more aware of what you are doing in every situation in relation to yourself, and what you are expressing to your benefit and what you are not, what you are expressing those yes’s and no’s in relation to everything you do, without necessarily analyzing it but merely being aware.

MODERATOR: Interesting. Questions, anybody? No?

I guess I can throw one out, for the sake of it. You’ve talked about differences, and you’ve talked about abilities and then preferences. One type of differences are differences in preferences. I guess one thing I’m wondering is, how inbuilt are preferences in people versus how they are created within people? Are they part of the design of one’s focus, or are they something that people acquire and consciously acquire? Because differences in preferences to me create differences in society in various numbers of realms.

ELIAS: I would agree. In relation to preferences, I would express that preferences are choices. And in that, can an individual naturally incorporate some type of disposition in relation to a preference or in the direction of a preference? Yes. But does that necessarily dictate an absoluteness about the individual having a particular preference? No. Therefore, in relation to that, preferences are acquired and developed. They are not necessarily expressed innately.


JEFF: I have a question. Can you hear me?


MODERATOR: We can hear you, Jeff.

JEFF: Hi, Elias! The universe, our universe, forces three scenarios, but I believe they are connected. One, scientists consider dark matter to be something that although it’s unseen, it’s the stuff that holds galaxies together. Locally, planets are revolving around the sun, moons around planets. We call it gravity. If look at relationships, human relationships in particular, they tend to be orbital as well. A parent may be the sun, with children being planets and their children being moons. Eliminate the parent through death or whatever, and all of a sudden the relationships change. It seems to me that the same force is exhibited in all three of these scenarios, and I’m curious if this force is love?


JEFF: Nailed it! (Elias chuckles) Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

FEMALE: Am I unmuted?


FEMALE: I have a tendency to want to – I’m going to just use the word avoid, because that is what it feels like – I tend to want to avoid certain people with whom I experience great difference. You know, I just find them irritating or annoying, or we don’t have a lot of similarities. And so, I avoid a lot of people because of this. (Laughs) Is this wrong? Is this not to my greatest benefit?

ELIAS: Not necessarily. No. I would not necessarily disagree with that. And that is your choice, and that does not necessarily mean that you are not moving in a direction of your greatest benefit. In this, what I would express is in avoiding other individuals that would potentially be irritating or annoying to you, you are honoring yourself, and you are not placing yourself in positions in which you would be uncomfortable. You are intentionally choosing not to place yourself in uncomfortable positions. And in that, is that to your benefit? Yes, it is. Definitely.

In this, what I would express to you is that it may not be to your greatest benefit if you move that in the direction of isolating yourself and generating an opinion that all individuals are not worthy of your interaction or are uninteresting to you, or that it is frustrating or difficult for you to share with ALL individuals. That would be an extreme, and in relation to extremes, any extreme is not necessarily to your benefit.

But if you are generating an objective choice to not be interactive with specific individuals, and in doing so you are choosing to intentionally not place yourself in a position of being uncomfortable, no. That is not bad. It is not wrong. And it is also not a detriment to you. And it would be to your benefit.

There are billions of other individuals that occupy your world with you. And the few that you choose not to interact with intentionally is not necessarily to say that there are NO individuals that you would choose to be interactive with.

It is a matter of evaluating and listening to yourself and recognizing that there are other individuals that occupy your space arrangement that you do not share commonalities with, that you do not share interests with, or, even if you do not share interests with them, that you are not comfortable or not interested in interacting with them. For there are many individuals that you may not express commonalities with that you WOULD be interested in exchanging or sharing with, therefore that is not necessarily always a criteria in having those commonalities. At times, differences can be tremendous complements and can be interesting, but it is a matter of evaluating whether you are comfortable with the situation.

And let me also express to you that it is to your benefit if you are aware that at a particular point that you may not have the objective ability to not be reactive to your feelings. Therefore, generating a choice to not place yourself in a situation in which you would be automatically reactive to your feelings is definitely a benefit.

FEMALE: Ah. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

MODERATOR: Any questions?

For sake of follow-up, in that case, anybody just please… Oh. I’m going to ask a question on behalf of Paul, who for some reason cannot unmute: "Are we choosing to create a physical event like an earthquake or other manifestation that will trigger a new awareness among others?"

Paul, you are unmuted.

PAUL: Oh, thanks. This is in the context, Elias, of the current R-wave.

ELIAS: Is it possible that you are generating or will generate some event that will be influencing of individuals to become more aware? Yes. Not in necessarily the types of events that you have entertained previously, but in relation to what you would identify or define as natural events, which are not necessarily entirely naturally expressed, but yes.

I would express that I will likely at a point in relatively the near future be addressing to this very subject, for you have already set many actions in motion that are not to be reversed at this point. And in that, will that impact many individuals, and will it generate more of an objective awareness? Yes, it will. And will it be impacting of multitudes of individuals? Yes, that is very likely also, for you have set directions in motion that, although there are no absolutes, at this point are almost irreversible. And therefore, it is not a point of stopping or reversing, but rather adjusting and moving forward and preparing.

PAUL: Elias, can you give us an example of one of those events that are so-called irreversible that we put in play recently?

ELIAS: I would express that there are many. But one that is affecting of most of you would be in relation to your planet and your alteration of the planet itself, and therefore not merely the alteration of your climate but in the configuration of your surface elements of your earth at this present time, which are dramatically changing.

Let me express to you, this is not a matter of destroying your planet. That would be EXTREMELY difficult for you to do, even in the voluminous numbers that you possess. Your planet is tremendously resilient. But you have generated alterations to a degree that now what is set in motion is your planet is reconfiguring itself. It will survive. It will reconfigure itself to express itself to ITS greatest benefit.

Which perhaps you could incorporate as an example to yourselves, that in this, your planet does not discriminate or distinguish between what you term to be life forms or non-life forms. It merely seeks to express itself in its greatest benefit, and that is what it is doing. It is readjusting itself.

And in that process of readjusting itself, that is already, and will continue to generate greater and greater and greater impacts in relation to you as a species. Not that you will move in the direction of extinction; you will not. But you will be moving, as you already are in some capacities, in the direction of reconfiguring how you express your existence. And that is not a tremendously future prospect. This is much more immediate than you realize.

PAUL: Elias, does the R-wave apply to other species that are not necessarily in our current awareness but in our reality, such as the so-called life forms that exist in the upper mantle?

ELIAS: These waves in consciousness and this shift apply to your reality, which includes your universe.

MODERATOR: So, extra-terrestrials as well as whales are shifting?

ELIAS: Yes. Not in identically the same capacities as you, for your present reality is configured in very specific manners, and other realities that would involve beings that you term to be extra-terrestrials may be configured very differently. But they are also shifting. It is a shift that is encompassing your universe, not merely your planet.

FEMALE: When you say we will be reconfiguring how we express our existence, what exactly are you talking about?

ELIAS: The entirety of your existence. Not merely the aspects that we have discussed previously, such as your commerce or your governments, which those will be definitely affected, but in relation to your individual existences.

For the planet is reconfiguring itself. Therefore, land mass is reconfiguring itself. And in the reconfiguration of land mass, let me express to you, the greatest concentration of the human species in population is expressed in coastlines. In ratio, in percentages, in relation to human beings, the human species, you reside and exist in greater concentrations in relation to all of your coastal areas in your world than any other land mass in your world. And your coastal areas are now and will continue to be being affected in significant, dramatic and severe capacities within a relatively short time framework, and for most of you within your lifetime.

That is a considerable amount of displacement, which is not stopping, which you cannot reverse. And therefore, in that movement there will be a necessity for a considerable reconfiguration of the structure of your existence.

That is not a question. That is an action that is already occurring, already in motion. You are already moving in that direction and have been. And therefore, this is not a question of whether it will occur. It is already occurring. It is a question of when.

And the when is becoming closer and closer and closer. What your scientists had originally identified as an affectingness that possibly could occur within one hundred of your years is now more definitely a direction that WILL be occurring within less than fifty, more likely within thirty.

Therefore, within most of your lifetimes, for I would express to you that even if you engage the age of sixty years of age or even seventy years of age, most of you will be continuing in this reality for a longer time framework. Most of you will not be disengaging in the age categories that you are accustomed to humans disengaging in. You are expanding your life spans considerably. This is what you wanted. This is what you have expressed from the onset of this forum, but you have been expressing it for a considerable time framework before that, that you wanted to live longer. And you are. And you will.

But in that, you will also see and experience some of these expressions of reconfiguration. Therefore, it is a matter of being aware of yourselves, of what you are doing, of what energy you are expressing and how you are interconnected with everything in your world and preparing yourselves. For do not think to yourself if you do not reside in a coastal area that it will not be affecting of you, for there are that tremendous concentration of humans that are and will be displaced, and they must move somewhere.

And therefore, it is EVERYONE’S concern, not merely those that will be directly affected and displaced. But I shall be discussing this subject at another time framework in more detail and offering you much more information, and also information in how to be prepared and how to move forward.

MODERATOR: So, we’ve got about, I would say ‘round about seven minutes left, and just allowing for a few seconds here in case some of the other participants whom we haven’t heard from might have any questions, just allow a couple of seconds to see if anybody can unmute.

No? No? No questions?

FEMALE: Okay. Oh, here.

MODERATOR: Can I throw one out, in that case? I know that we switched back to the original topic, which was kind of in relation to differences and commonalities. You talked about commonalities, and I go back to that question of preference, because in many cases when we find commonalities with another individual, the root unit of commonality is preference. But one lever that you did not mention with respect to commonalities and making choices is changing or expanding preferences, given one does have conscious controls over one’s preferences.

ELIAS: And what would be the question?

MODERATOR: The question is, to what extent is changing one’s preferences or expanding one’s preferences a beneficial option? How do you weigh that option versus some of the other options you’ve laid out, in terms of addressing to differences with other individuals?

ELIAS: I would express that that would be to a degree a benefit, but it also is a matter of recognizing that for the most part, individuals do not necessarily change their preferences unless they are given some type of motivation to do so.

Therefore, I would express that the more information that individuals have, and the more knowledge that they express and accumulate, that would likely generate some influence in relation to changing their preferences. But I would also express that that in itself is not necessarily enough to influence individuals to change their preferences.

Individuals are generally influenced to change their preferences when some expression is affecting of them in a manner in which it either more significantly benefits them in a manner that they were not aware of previously, or when they recognize that one of their preferences [is] considerably limiting them. Those are generally the strongest motivations for individuals to change preferences.

In this, in relation to shifting and becoming more self-aware, yes, that can influence an individual to change their preferences, and that would be an aid in relation to differences, in more of an acceptance of differences; or even if there is not necessarily more of an acceptance of difference with an individual, it would promote more of a tolerance.

MODERATOR: Thanks. So, we’re right up against our hour, very close. Any final question, before we wrap up?

I guess not. So, Elias I guess we’re…


MODERATOR: Oh, sorry.

FEMALE: I have a question. Since we want to be doing this more often, I'm wondering if Elias would like to tell us what format would be most suitable. Should we come with a general concept that we want to discuss and… What would work best for you?

ELIAS: (Chuckles) It is not necessarily what would be most efficient for myself, but what would be most efficient for you. And in that, I would express that it generally is more efficient if you agree upon a theme or a particular subject. For once you have generated one particular theme or subject, that allows everyone to interact and to present their concerns or their questions, and allows us to engage the time framework more efficiently.

But I would express that, as with all that you do, it is your choice, my friends. It is a matter of what is important to you, and I will offer information regardless. (Chuckles)

MODERATOR: Wait! Wait, wait, wait! So, you want us to pick a theme? Which is what we did, but then at the beginning of this you said… You threw that out the window.

ELIAS: But I did not. I honored your theme.

MODERATOR: Yes. And I didn’t even… You already knew it before I even told you.

ELIAS: I expressed the honoring of your theme. I merely did not choose to engage a time framework of expressing information about it first, but rather chose to be interacting with the individuals from the onset.

MODERATOR: Okay. Okay.

ELIAS: Very well. I shall honor your themes, in what you wish to discuss. I would express that it may be more efficient to choose the theme and immediately engage conversation about it. Do you agree or disagree?

FEMALE: I agree. I think that if that’s how… I mean, I think if people were more prepared with questions that things might go more smoothly. So that’s good.

ELIAS: Very well.

MODERATOR: I agree, provided we don’t have like fifty people on a call. It just poses certain technological challenges, interactive challenges, right? Given that we’re a little bit limited in terms of…

ELIAS: I shall leave that for your discussions.

Very well, my friends, I will express that this has been quite enjoyable as your experimentation. And in that, I would be acknowledging of all of you in your participation and in your questioning, which has been quite intriguing and an expression of your expanded awareness.

To each of you, in tremendous encouragement and in great lovingness as always, au revoir.

GROUP: Ciao! Bye!

(Elias departs after 1 hour 7 minutes)

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