Rediscovering Your Passion: Be Open to New Directions
Topics:
“Rediscovering Your Passion: Be Open to New Directions”
“Crystals and Stones for Healing”
“Projection Experiences”
“Channeling Possibility: Trusting and Letting Go”
“A Complementary Relationship, or Not?”
Wednesday, January 07, 2015 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and John (Arry)
ELIAS: Good morning!
JOHN: Good morning. (Elias laughs) Once again. Long time no see.
ELIAS: And what shall we discuss?
JOHN: Apparently I needed more practice time again? (Both laugh)
ELIAS: What have you been engaging.
JOHN: I have the sense, in the last few months since we've talked, that I have had a lot of subjective widening and there's been a lot going on. And at the same time objectively, there has been many challenges. (Laughs)
ELIAS: Aha!
JOHN: I would like to go through some questions and impressions and get sort of your short answers? And then depending on how I feel about any particular question spend some more time talking about that.
ELIAS: Very well.
JOHN: All right. So two questions for some people in the forum. Debbie, essence Tamara, would like to know if she’s dispersed?
ELIAS: Yes.
JOHN: And then also Christoph/Alexander, and his impression is he is dispersed.
ELIAS: Correct.
JOHN: All right. And some other things. Melanie's mom, her stats: I have the impression she is belonging Borledim, aligning Ilda, emotional and soft.
ELIAS: Correct!
JOHN: All right, I'm just going to go through the list. So, I haven't really been that curious about the essence symbols? I’ve heard people ask about that, and after our last session I spontaneously ended up drawing on my computer sort of what I guess could be called an essence symbol, and I'm curious what you would say about it. Basically it was a cloudy, foggy background that I did in sort of black and orange, and then a round black ball in the middle. That's all I had. I don't know, I just sort of followed my intuition while drawing it. I never really thought about connecting it to an essence symbol, but now I'm curious.
ELIAS: I would express that that is excellent! I would express an addition to that, and I would express that within the ball is a tree, and within the tree is a flame.
JOHN: Okay.
ELIAS: Now; what would you express are the qualities of this symbol?
JOHN: With the additions that you've added?
ELIAS: Yes.
JOHN: Well, when I think of a tree I think of something very solid and strong and grounded. And the flame: “Intensity” is the word that comes to mind, and sort of a dynamic intensity… Yeah, that's what comes to mind.
ELIAS: And passion.
JOHN: Mm, yeah. Passion has been something on my mind recently in terms of my life. I feel like I want to reconnect to my sense of passion.
ELIAS: Excellent!
JOHN: Okay, that's interesting. I didn't want to spend so much time on that, but I was just curious, so thank you for that.
ELIAS: I would express congratulations!
JOHN: Thank you. So the gender percent question I asked last time, I didn't really think about it at the time but now I'm wondering: When I asked, were you giving the percentage male/female for this focus as me? Or is that the entirety of essence in terms of all of my physical focuses in this reality, 67 or whatever the number was, that's how many male focuses I have versus female?
ELIAS: No. That was not what you asked.
JOHN: Okay.
ELIAS: Therefore it would be in relation to this [cut off].
JOHN: Okay, well, that's fine.
Next question: I had an impression some time ago about what I imagined was a Native American focus of mine in Southwest America, and I got the partial impression of a name of T-u-k and then an O somewhere also.
ELIAS: I would acknowledge that and express that that is a valid impression, yes!
JOHN: And is the name just Tuko, or are there more parts of it I'm not getting yet?
ELIAS: I would express, expand that to add N-K-A.
JOHN: Tukonka?
ELIAS: Yes.
JOHN: Ah! Interesting. Okay. Another impression: I was thinking about Vold, and I posed the question to myself, Í wonder if I have any Vold-aligned focuses. I mean, I’m assuming I have many, but one came to mind with a very specific name of Stanley Moss, and then later more recently I also got the impression that that's a future focus?
ELIAS: Congratulations!
JOHN: Ah! Interesting. Thank you. All right. Then I also got another impression about Shay, Ari's brother in my future focus. And as far as stats I got belonging Sumari, aligning Ilda, political and common.
ELIAS: Correct.
JOHN: Nice. All right, and then a couple questions about Melanie. How many total focuses in this reality does she have? I have not had an impression yet.
ELIAS: Presently 3481.
JOHN: Okay. And then I recently found out in the forum that there is another person, I think her name is Stephanie, who has an essence name Rachel, I believe? And I was curious, is that another focus of Melanie's essence Rachel, or is this a different Rachel?
ELIAS: That would be a different Rachel.
JOHN: Okay, right. That's the impression I had. And then this is another question that probably could be a long answer but I'm just interested in sort of a yes or no for now. Mel had the impression at some point during therapy, I believe, that she may have experienced some form of sexual abuse in her past that she can't quite remember. And she felt that really strongly in the moment, and I basically am curious. Is that an actual memory of an experience she had in this focus, or was that tapping into a bleed-through from another focus?
ELIAS: I would express that it is a combination of both – not that that was an actual experience in this focus but what you would term to be a near experience.
JOHN: Ah! Okay.
ELIAS: And that triggered a memory in relation to another focus.
JOHN: So when she remembered that more recently as an adult, she was tapping into an older memory of that bleed-through action?
ELIAS: She was tapping into both, that she was tapping into an experience that did not quite occur.
JOHN: I see.
ELIAS: Almost.
JOHN: Okay.
ELIAS: But not quite.
JOHN: All right.
ELIAS: And that triggered another memory of another focus in which assault, if you will, did occur.
JOHN: I see. Okay. I'm encouraging her to one day have a session with you and she can ask more about that if she wants. (Both laugh)
JOHN: And another quick question I thought of: I don't have an impression about this, but I'm curious about her percent shifted in this focus?
ELIAS: I would express 67.
JOHN: All right, some family stats. My sister Shannon was curious about her essence of focus animals and also colors, and the only impression she had was purple.
ELIAS: Purple in the shade of plum would be focus color. Essence color would be pale pink.
JOHN: All right, and then animals?
ELIAS: Focus animal would be a deer.
JOHN: Ah, interesting.
ELIAS: Essence animal would be an owl.
JOHN: Ah! And then the same for Brittany. Well first, Brittany has an impression that she had a life in Vietnam where she lost her right leg from the knee down; is that correct?
ELIAS: Yes.
JOHN: Okay, and then her color impressions were yellow and brown?
ELIAS: I would agree, which for which?
JOHN: She didn't say. I don't know. I have the impression that yellow would be the essence.
ELIAS: Correct.
JOHN: Okay. And then her animals were panda and owl?
ELIAS: I would express a red panda, and the owl would be a very small owl and she can investigate what that is.
JOHN: Ah! She will enjoy that. That's interesting. So, my sister is an essence animal owl and then Brittany's is a focus, a very small type of owl that's very similar.
ELIAS: Yes.
JOHN: Okay, I will let her know to investigate that, and maybe next time I'll have her impression.
ELIAS: Very well!
JOHN: And then Donny, another impression: He had a dream where he very strongly connected to what he thinks is a past life named Titus Keawanaka, which was a Hawaiian warrior and squid fisherman. (Laughs) He’s very specific about this.
ELIAS: And I would agree.
JOHN: Wow! That's very interesting. I don't know that he knew about the timeframe, but I had the impression that it was not modern time but not very far in the past – I don't know, maybe 1800s or 1900s.
ELIAS: Correct.
JOHN: Early 1900s?
ELIAS: I would express that the life span was through the late 1800s and early 1900s.
JOHN: Yeah, the date 1926 was the impression I had, if that relates at all. Is that the year he died or something?
ELIAS: You are correct!
JOHN: Nice! All right. And then Haydon: The only thing he had was an impression of an eagle.
ELIAS: I would express that would be the focus animal, a golden eagle.
JOHN: Okay.
ELIAS: Essence animal would be a prairie dog.
JOHN: A prairie dog, okay. And then his color – I don't have any impressions and he didn't have any impressions, but I'm sure that he’ll want to know… Gold just came to mind.
ELIAS: Correct! That would be the essence color.
JOHN: And then some kind of red for focus.
ELIAS: The focus color would be scarlet.
JOHN: All right. And then Marcia. Apparently we didn't get her focus type last time, but I would say soft?
ELIAS: That would be an orientation.
JOHN: Whoops! Yes, soft orientation. (Laughs)
ELIAS: Yes.
JOHN: Okay. And then her animals were an elephant and a sloth.
ELIAS: Correct.
JOHN: Elephant essence?
ELIAS: Correct.
JOHN: And then red and purple?
ELIAS: (Pause) Lavender and brick.
JOHN: Brick? Brick red?
ELIAS: Yes.
JOHN: Ah! Okay. And then I don't really know all of what she wanted in terms of this, but she felt very connected to both her mother and her sister. Her mother died a few years ago, and I believe her sister also died, so I think she was just wanting some validation in terms of were they soulmates or how many focuses they shared. She felt extremely connected to them and just wanted a little bit more information, so I assume my questions from that would be were they considered soulmates, and how many focuses did they share?
ELIAS: Yes in relation to the soulmates.
JOHN: Okay.
ELIAS: In relation to shared focuses, with the first, 603.
JOHN: All right.
ELIAS: The second, 1261.
JOHN: Okay. And then while we’re on that, what about her mother's essence name?
ELIAS: Essence name Peatrat [pronounced PAY-tra], P-E-A-T-R-A-T.
JOHN: All right, and her sister?
ELIAS: Essence name Alyson, A-L-Y-S-O-N.
JOHN: All right. And then just a couple more of my impressions. My friend Lacey, as far as essence name I got another partial, S-Y-L-A? And I believe that her and I are soulmates.
ELIAS: (Pause) You are soulmates, and I would express that the addition to that would be beginning letters T-A.
JOHN: T-A-S-Y-L-A?
ELIAS: Yes.
JOHN: And then my friend Jeff, also another soulmate, and the letters I got in his name were G-O and then a U and then an R?
ELIAS: (Pause) That would be partially in relation to the essence name. The essence name is actually George.
JOHN: George, okay. And we are soulmates?
ELIAS: Yes.
JOHN: Okay. Laura and I are also soulmates, and I had S-U-R and an O and an N?
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct. And I would express that there is only one missing letter in that, which would be before the N an E.
JOHN: Suroen? And then how many focuses do her and I share? 291?
ELIAS: Excellent! Yes.
JOHN: And then my other friend Lindsey, we are also soulmates and we share 231?
ELIAS: Correct.
JOHN: Okay. It just gets easier and easier, apparently. (Elias laughs) My mother and I share 357?
ELIAS: Correct.
JOHN: And then Desiree and I: I had the impression a while back that it was 697.
ELIAS: Correct.
JOHN: And we are also soulmates.
ELIAS: Correct.
JOHN: All right, I think that is all of the impressions at this point.
Okay, I want to go to two meditation projections that I had. I forgot to ask about this, but before our last session when I asked about my essence animal, the lion, I had forgotten a while back before that I had been taking notes of my dream imagery and anything that came to me in meditations or projection experiences. I had an experience maybe six months prior to that, I think, where I had this very clear image during a meditation of a lion in what looked like Africa, and there was an African-looking man who was basically snuggling with the lion almost. And it was this very clear image that lasted a couple of minutes and the lion just seem very comfortable, very calm and they were very connected, and there was no fear in the man. So I don't know, I wonder what you would say about that as far as is that how that relates to my essence animal and what is the connection with the African man, or if that was more abstract imagery.
ELIAS: Actually I would express that that was very real imagery.
JOHN: Ah! Was I tapping into the African focus I asked you about before with the wings that Prajna painted? Was that the same?
ELIAS: Yes.
JOHN: Ah! And so I was basically projecting to seeing that focus of mine literally snuggling with the lion in that moment?
ELIAS: Yes!
JOHN: Wow! That takes courage. (Both laugh) Or a very different level of comfort with wildlife than we have.
ELIAS: And trust.
JOHN: Yeah. Okay, that's interesting.
So then another time I had… This was in a meditation, an attempt of projecting, I think. I felt a very… It was sort of a feeling in the back of my head, and it felt like there was this tightening in the back of my neck. I was laying down on my back, and I felt this twitching periodically. I don’t know how long it lasted. It was hard to describe, but basically tightness in the back of my neck, there was some twitching and tightening in the muscles in the back of my neck. I didn't write this down, but I also felt like my mouth moving, and I almost wonder if it was some kind of almost a partial energy exchange. And then I don't remember exactly now, but I have written down that I also saw what I assumed was sort of an Egyptian person in like a temple? So what was all that about? (Laughs)
ELIAS: Actually I would express that this was not actually about an energy exchange, but this can occur occasionally, not often, but at times individuals can tap into another focus in the capacity in which they are actually… figuratively speaking, momentarily exchanging places with that other focus.
JOHN: Ah.
ELIAS: It does not occur frequently, but at times individuals may be generating a projection and, in a manner of speaking, you move one step further with that, rather than actually projecting in which you would be an observer.
JOHN: Right.
ELIAS: The individual actually momentarily exchanges positions with the other focus. You may see yourself from the perspective of the other focus, or the other focus may see themself from a different perspective.
JOHN: Hm. Yeah, it seemed like a very visual-based experience. It was almost like what would look like a camera, like on a TV show. The way that I experienced it was there was this sort of zooming in effect, and then it stopped all of a sudden directly before the person, so it was like a hallway almost, then the camera zoomed in and then it stopped right in front of the person, and they were just standing there sort of looking at me and I was looking at them. That's kinda how I would describe it.
ELIAS: Yes! And I would express [that it] is a very accurate description.
JOHN: Right. And so that was a focus of mine, and was that Egyptian? Or was that something else?
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.
JOHN: Okay. All right. I've been a little interested in the whole directing/observing essence. I've never really thought about that much, but how many essences currently are directing or observing this focus as me?
ELIAS: Presently observing: 2018.
JOHN: Whoa. All right, but so then Arry would be the directing focus?
ELIAS: Yes. Now, that can fluctuate.
JOHN: Right. Okay, that's a whole can of worms, I'll come back to that another time. (Both laugh)
JOHN: All right, so these are some of the bigger questions. We’re going to talk about crystals in a little bit; hot topic.
Going back to Mel, there was a time when… I think it was just one night, but it was during a time when we were talking a lot about you and all this information, and she has various levels of comfort with it. But she was at her house after one of those nights, and she basically said that she felt a very strong presence, almost as if someone was standing at the edge of her bed and she was very unnerved about that at the time. We never really talked about it since, but I assumed it was either you or some other essence or something like that.
ELIAS: I would express that you are correct – not myself.
JOHN: Okay. Which essence was that?
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct that it was another essence, and I would express that that was the essence of Tomkin.
JOHN: Ahh, Tomkin. (Laughs)
ELIAS: Very curious.
JOHN: Tomkin is very curious?
ELIAS: Yes.
JOHN: Does Tomkin have any kind of particular connection with Mel?
ELIAS: Yes.
JOHN: Hm. Okay. I will leave that for her to explore more later. (Elias laughs)
Here’s a quick one. So, I'm very into climbing as far as my main type of exercise and sport, and I find that very fulfilling. I feel like it would be beneficial to me to add an additional type of physical activity to balance that, not necessarily soon but as I get older as a practice. And so here is a question for you: Yoga versus tai chi – which would you say is the most beneficial for me?
ELIAS: (Pause) That is an interesting question.
JOHN: (Laughs) Isn't it? I like both. I feel drawn to both. That's why I felt very torn.
ELIAS: And you could DO both.
JOHN: That's true.
ELIAS: I would express that if you were to choose one or the other, for you I would express tai chi.
JOHN: Yeah, that's what my intuition says.
Okay. All right, let's do some crystals real quick. I've been very intrigued about the crystals recently after listening to your conversations with people. One quick question about the rose quartz: One thing I’m still not sure about, does it literally have to be outside? Because there have been many times when I put it on my windowsill on the inside of the house with the sun shining through the window on it. Is that adequate, or does it have to be outside in the daylight?
ELIAS: Now, I would express that it is significant for it to be outside, and I would express that placing it on a windowsill would not necessarily be advisable, for that is generating an alteration of light through glass.
JOHN: Right.
ELIAS: And that could potentially generate a disturbance.
JOHN: That was kind of my impression. It did feel different when I would consistently put it outside for ten minutes versus just put it on the windowsill, so I thought that was the case.
ELIAS: Remember: Regardless of whether the sun may be actually shining, in your assessment, even if it is cloudy it matters not. [If it is] not in a shaded area it will be effective.
JOHN: Yeah, there's not much sun here this time of year, so it's pretty much always cloudy. (Both laugh)
All right, that answers that. Let's see. So, going back to the hepatitis, which I'm still fluctuating a lot in. I have toned down the focus on the herbs and pills. I've been using the crystals more and I've basically been using a combination of words. I've used solely the rose quartz at times. I have multiple different ones that I sort of cycle through, and then I also have some lapis and I also have some amethyst. So I feel way more interested in that, but I don't know… Now let's see, what's my question? Is that a good general combo? It seems like from what you've said to other people the combo of rose quartz, lapis, [and] I sort of use the amethyst to just amplify the effect that they would have. Sometimes based on your talking about the gold, I don't know if this even affects it, but I have an old gold necklace that I sometimes just lay on all the crystals to sort of add power, I guess?
ELIAS: That would be effective, yes.
JOHN: Okay. So in general for in terms of moving forward with the hepatitis in any kind of physical way, which I still am, I'm assuming the crystals would be another method that would be helpful.
ELIAS: Yes, I would agree.
JOHN: And as far as doing something like that, it seems like the size question is very dependent. Most of the crystals I have are not very big. They may be an inch or two long, sort of like finger size maybe. Would it be more helpful in that regard to use much larger stones? Or is that simply irrelevant?
ELIAS: Not necessarily. Now, with the rose quartz what do you do with it?
JOHN: I set an intention that I’m releasing any unwanted energy from my liver, and I place it usually either directly over my liver or on my solar plexus. And then I just sort of meditate or relax for 10 or 15 minutes.
ELIAS: Excellent. Very well.
JOHN: One thing I've also been doing recently also is adding a clear quartz to my various meditations. I don't know if that would also be helpful. You said it can help lend energy towards a particular intention, so would the rose quartz...
ELIAS: That would depend on how you are using it. Remember: A quartz crystal is a conduit.
JOHN: Right.
ELIAS: Therefore it is a CONNECTING stone. Therefore, that could be used in varying capacities. You could use it in relation to some other outside energy, and in a healing capacity using that as the connecting stone between that energy and your own. [Inaudible] focus it in that physical area with that intention of healing that physical expression.
JOHN: Hm. Would you suggest any other stones that would be helpful for that specific issue? The only other stones that I actually have is I bought a small, egg-shaped Moroccan moonstone, which I mainly just use for dreams as you suggested. But if there are any other stones that would be helpful in this regard I’d be curious to hear.
ELIAS: I would suggest an agate.
JOHN: Okay. I don't know much about agate; is there a particular color or type?
ELIAS: I would suggest red. They do express different colors.
JOHN: Right.
ELIAS: But I would suggest red, and for that I would express that you can use that as an addition to the lapis.
JOHN: Okay. So a combination of the rose quartz, the lapis and the red agate?
ELIAS: Yes, for that may be somewhat of a direction that would refocus the energy – being lapis is calming, the rose quartz is drawing out, and you are also incorporating the quartz crystal for channeling in, and in that, you can use the agate to be redirecting.
JOHN: Okay. In a similar way to the colors and the animals, is there a focus crystal and an essence crystal? Or could there be?
ELIAS: Not necessarily.
JOHN: Okay, that's fine. Is there any other crystal that would be generally helpful to, say, carry on me throughout the day, or just something that would generally be beneficial to me to have around on a general basis? (Chuckles)
ELIAS: Other than the amethyst?
JOHN: Would the amethyst be good for that just to carry around with me?
ELIAS: Yes.
JOHN: How would that be beneficial in terms of amplifying?
ELIAS: I would express that that can aid you in mood, it can aid you in direction, it can aid you in what you are paying attention to or being focused, and in that, it can aid you in being more directed.
JOHN: Okay. And would it be helpful at certain times throughout the day, if I want to, say… I would like to feel more focused on some particular task. Would it be helpful to sort of set that intention in terms of directing that energy from the amethyst towards a particular outcome?
ELIAS: Yes!
JOHN: That direction? Okay. All right. Well, I think that's good for now for crystals.
I forgot one very, very interesting projection experience I had. I was meditating one day trying the stairs method of projecting you suggested, and I ended up going through what felt like multiple doors. I ended up on a beach, almost. It looked like a beach, but it was dark and it almost seemed like another planet, actually. And earlier that day I was talking to Melanie about Bashar. I have never felt connected to Bashar; I have actually felt very skeptical and not very interested in that information, and I was talking about that. And so then later during this projection experience or meditation I went through multiple doors, ended up on the beach, and I saw a couple different – I don't remember how many, maybe three or four – sort of, I don't know how to describe them, but humanoid-looking light beings. They were just basically like pure white in color but had the form of a humanoid. They were much bigger than me, it seemed. One of them seemed to notice me, was very calming and very welcoming energy, and handed me the symbol of a C sharp, I guess it is? The pound sign, C pound? I had no idea what that meant. That was sort of the end of it. I think I left, and I was like what the heck was that? (Laughs) And then later I searched on line for the C sharp, I thought maybe that would be, you know, something like an essence tone, which I've never asked you about, and the first hit was a talk from Bashar about how C sharp or C pound, I think that's C sharp, is the resonant frequency of the earth. So basically I'm wondering, was that me connecting with Bashar in some way? Or what was that exactly, and what does the C sharp represent or what was the point of that?
ELIAS: First of all I would express, was it you connecting with that energy specifically or directly? Not necessarily, but was it you connecting with that energy conceptually? Yes. And in that, I would express that this imagery was a presentment to you perhaps to encourage you to expand slightly more and allow for validity of other expressions. Regardless of whether you agree with them or not, or whether you are [inaudible] in them or not, that is not to say that they are not valid.
JOHN: Right.
ELIAS: And in that, I would express that you offered yourself, in a manner of speaking, a peek into another reality which is more associated with that energy of Bashar.
JOHN: I see. Interesting.
That reminds me, I also wanted to ask in terms of the percent shifted again, recognizing that it is dynamic and changes, but I have the impression it was around 74 to 75, is what I have down here?
ELIAS: Yes.
JOHN: Okay. All right here is another very interesting one: Who is Yvette? I had a projection experience many months ago where I was in like a grocery store, I don't know, but I saw this person, it was a woman and I was extremely attracted to her, and I mean not even just in a physical way but just like it felt like a very, very intense soulmate-type draw to her. I don't even remember how I got the name Yvette but that's the impression I had. Who is that? I haven't really gotten any impressions as far as who that is. It felt like a very different energy than anybody I know currently that I would connect it to.
ELIAS: I would agree, for it is not an individual you know, but it is another individual that you have shared experience with.
JOHN: Is Yvette the essence name? Or is that the focus?
ELIAS: That is the focus name.
JOHN: I see. What is the essence name of that individual?
ELIAS: The essence name: Collette.
JOHN: C-O-L-L-E-T-T-E?
ELIAS: Yes.
JOHN: Huh! Hm. Was there any particular reason that I connected with her in that imagery, or was that… I know nothing is random, but it felt like interesting timing, I guess.
ELIAS: And how would you piece that together?
JOHN: (Laughs) To be honest, at the time I believed it was another period of Mel and I having many struggles and feeling very disconnected and confused about our relationship, and at the time I felt it sort of as a reminder that yes, me and Mel are extremely connected in this focus and in essence, and sort of a reminder that there are other people that I have similar connections to or that there are other options, maybe is the way to say it? To not be so attached to this particular relationship that I’m in right now – something like that.
ELIAS: In a manner of speaking. I would express that not necessarily that overt of other options but as a reminder that experiences, relationships, directions are never as singular as they seem.
JOHN: Right.
ELIAS: And that in that, your availability to connect with other individuals is much broader than you may think at times.
JOHN: (Chuckles) Yeah. All right, –
ELIAS: Individuals do incorporate a tendency, including yourself, to become very singularly focused.
JOHN: Yes.
ELIAS: You think in singular capacities in many, many directions, and individuals do incorporate a tendency to become somewhat fixated in one direction with one individual in regard to relationships, and it is a matter of reminding yourself occasionally that you incorporate relationships with many, many, many individuals, and the potential for generating other relationships that can be equally as strong and equally as fulfilling is endless.
JOHN: Yeah. So I have one final question or topic about Mel and I that I would like to end with, but first another quick question: Is there a probability in this focus that I will have an energy exchange with some other essence in terms of something similar along the lines of you and Michael or that type of what people would consider channeling? Is that a possibility or probably in this focus?
ELIAS: What I would express to you is that that is entirely your choice. For, is that a possibility? Yes. Is it available to you? Yes. And can you do it? Most definitely yes. It is a matter of what you choose and how open you are or allow yourself to be in that direction, and a matter of trusting to allow yourself, in a manner of speaking, to let go. (John laughs) It is a matter of letting go of control.
JOHN: That is hard for me at times. (Both laugh)
ELIAS: I would express that is the reason that I am EXPRESSING that. (John laughs) That is the biggest challenge, in your terms, that for you, yes. Do you have the ability, is it a potential? Yes, I would agree. And do you express a desire and can you express an openness for that type of direction? Yes. But your challenge is letting go of control and trusting.
JOHN: And maybe this would be along the lines of me wanting the control, but it is also a curiosity. Is there some particular essence that would be most available to that, or... ?
ELIAS: Yes, there is, and I would challenge you (John laughs) to pay attention and to be expressing that openness to offer yourself some information in relation to that essence.
You have been quite successful in your impressions and in your assessments. I would encourage you to apply that same openness to this direction and perhaps allow yourself a moment of allowance and therefore connecting with that essence, and perhaps offering yourself a tidbit of information such as a name.
Or even if you do not present yourself with a name, perhaps you will offer yourself an intention.
JOHN: The only thing that just came to mind during that was A-U-S…
ELIAS: T-I-N.
JOHN: T-I-N?
ELIAS: A-U-S-T-I-N.
JOHN: Ah! Who was that? Somebody has an essence name of Aistian. I believe Sati does. A-I-S-T-I-A-N. Interesting. It's very similar.
They are Sumafi, yes?
ELIAS: Yes.
JOHN: All right, that's enough for now. That's a great challenge. I will save that and continue to explore. (Both laugh) Thank you for that.
JOHN: So finally, Mel and I: We only have a couple minutes left here. I think that's probably good because… whatever. Mel is moving. She got a job in Tucson, Arizona, and the question for me is do I… The way I'm seeing it currently is do I go? Do I start investigating finding my own job there and sort of follow her there and we continue our relationship in a more committed, different space? Or do I move on somewhere else and we essentially end this relationship? So, one question in relation to that: I feel very connected to Tucson; my impression is that I would resonate with the place quite well. Would you agree with that?
ELIAS: I would agree.
JOHN: The other option I've been thinking about is Charlotte, North Carolina, which is where I go to visit my family. I feel somewhat resonant with that, though not in the same way that I do Tucson.
ELIAS: I would agree to that also.
JOHN: Okay. I feel drawn to the Southwest, and I have for quite a while before this even became an option. The way that I said it recently to Mel was that I feel like there’s something for me there that I don't know what it is, and I don't know that it even has to do with Mel and my relationship. But I feel like if I were to go, there would be something there for me that I don't even know what it is, but that's my impression.
ELIAS: Or you would create a new opportunity.
JOHN: Ah. Okay.
ELIAS: And that I would express a validation to, and I would express a validation that it is not necessarily connected to the two of you.
JOHN: Right. I’m almost afraid of that. (Laughs)
ELIAS: But more so individually for you.
JOHN: Right. That's the impression that I keep getting when I really feel into it.
Okay. Well, in terms of Mel and I, here are some quick questions I would be interested in sort of a small response.
[The timer for the session rings]
Well, we’re almost out of time anyway, so maybe just some small responses to this. What would you say is our biggest complement to each other, or our best strength as a partnership?
ELIAS: (Breathes deeply and pauses)
JOHN: There is a quick response to that.
ELIAS: (Laughs) Determination.
JOHN: Determination. And what would you say is our biggest challenge or weakness in terms of our partnership?
ELIAS: (Wryly) It may actually be the same.
JOHN: (Laughs loudly) How so?
ELIAS: For [inaudible] express a considerable determination, but at times that determination can be expressed in very different directions.
JOHN: In that we both have very much determination but in different directions from each other?
ELIAS: Yes.
JOHN: Yeah. That's pretty spot on. If I were to say that sexual compatibility is not quite at the top – you know, maybe in the top three in terms of what I want in a partnership – it seems to me that at least up until now we have been very incompatible in that way, or not complementary. It seems to be moving in a different direction now, but if I were to pose the question to you that's at the top of my list in terms of what I want in a partnership and what is important to me in a partnership, are we very complementary at this point?
ELIAS: In that? Somewhat. Are you very complementary to each other in that? No. Are you somewhat complementary to each other in that regard? Yes, but it fluctuates. And therefore I would not express that that would be a complement, for in that fluctuation there is a considerable variable.
JOHN: Yeah. I would agree.
Mel says 'Hi'. (Laughs) She just walked in. (Elias laughs) "Bye." She says bye.
ELIAS: I would express a sincere encouragement to you to allow yourself to explore more.
JOHN: To me?
ELIAS: Yes.
JOHN: In relation to our relationship in terms of sexuality specifically? Or in general?
ELIAS: In relation to many different directions, not only this one.
JOHN: Okay. I would agree with that. (Elias laughs)
The last question I have written down, and this is not so much a question but I just feel at times like me being Sumafi and her aligning Vold, at times her changeability and her dynamic-ness is very unsettling to me and I find very challenging, and I assume that when I imagine spending more time together, or the rest of our lives together, I feel very nervous about that. They don't seem very complementary to me, and I have a fear about that. Like, would it be better for me to be in a partnership with somebody who is not aligning Vold? The Sumari/Vold combo just seems very sort of unstable, in a way.
ELIAS: I would express that is very much a matter of perception.
JOHN: You WOULD say that. (Laughs)
ELIAS: I would express that it is not necessarily a matter of those families – although I do understand what you are expressing.
JOHN: Yes.
ELIAS: I understand what influences your perceptions in that direction, and I would acknowledge that. Would I necessarily express in general that Sumafi and a Vold would not be compatible or would not be a complement? No, I would not necessarily express that. But I would express that in relation to YOU, that combination and the combinations of personalities, and that factor of determination which moves in your direction in favor and not, with those expressions all combined, yes I can understand why you would express that your perception is that the Vold and the Sumafi do not mesh well and it is more those those particular Volds and Sumafis. (Both laugh)
JOHN: Right. All right. Well, we should wrap up. Do you have any parting words for me?
ELIAS: My parting words for you would be an encouragement in what your beginning words were in this conversation, about rediscovering your passion. Encouragement for you to move in that direction to be open to new expressions that may spark your passion and to allow yourself to express that without limits.
JOHN: Mm, that sounds good! (Elias laughs) All right, my friend. It's been a long time. It's been very nice to talk to you again. I have no idea when we will talk again, but I trust we will.
ELIAS: And I shall be greatly anticipating of that. And I would express that it is likely that it will be sooner than later.
JOHN: That sounds wonderful. (Laughs)
ELIAS: In wondrous affection to you, my dear friend, and in tremendous encouragement in your new adventures, remember: Allow your motivation to be you – you initiating, not you following.
And I shall be anticipating our next meeting.
JOHN: As will I.
ELIAS: My dear friend as always, in tremendous lovingness, au revoir.
JOHN: Goodbye for now.
(Elias departs after 1 hour 6 minutes)
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