Recognizing What You Have Already Created
Topics:
Session 20021016 (1158)
“Recognizing What You Have Already Created”
“Struggling with Strong Emotional Pain”
“Freedom Is Choosing Beliefs”
Wednesday, October 16, 2002 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Rose (Quillan)
ELIAS: Good afternoon!
ROSE: Good afternoon, Elias! (Laughs) Nice to talk to you!
ELIAS: And you also.
ROSE: Ah! (Laughs) Well. In relating to the last session, or the last two sessions, I’m practicing what you told me, and it works very good.
ELIAS: Aha!
ROSE: Aha! That’s right. It’s very, very nice. I mean, it’s such a tremendous help already. And I want to process this whole process even more (chuckles).
Okay. So…As always, I’m well prepared and I want to jump right into the topics, ok?
ELIAS: Very well.
ROSE: Very well.
There is one thing I was really concerned about and will describe it a little bit, and I want to have your comment on that. During this whole focus, again and again I have tremendous pain, emotional pain. I struggled with this from the onset, and I tried quite a lot to cope with it, and I was successful partially and not successful and so on. And then there was a point when I thought, “Okay, maybe that is a kind of disease I have, or maybe a kind of defect which I have.” I mean, I’m talking about real fear and emotional pain, pain which is something so hard that I would even disengage just to finish it. Then I thought, “Maybe this just is a very dramatic kind of presenting myself with emotional communication with a signal to move forward and I’m just a type which likes to do things very dramatically.”
So this is my first question to you: Can you just tell me why I am the way I am in this aspect?
ELIAS: First of all, express to me what you view as the source of this emotional pain. I am aware that you have discussed this previously and that you have partially identified in this subject matter. But, once again, express to myself what you perceive to be a type of overview of what you would identify as the source of this emotional pain.
ROSE: [Audio is popping] Oh, we have a very bad technical connection. It is very hard for me to understand you, but I will do my best.
Okay. When I observe it, I see that it’s a kind of reaction or response to what I experience in my focus in my life. It’s the frustration or it is disappointment. As I said the last time, it’s feeling of being incapable and overwhelmed and confused, and it’s just so frustrating and I just respond in a very, very, very intense way. Maybe other people are just somewhat more balanced, I don’t know. It’s more or less that.
ELIAS: These are generalities, my friend.
ROSE: Okay, yes.
ELIAS: Now express to me specifics.
ROSE: We can just go with one example if you want to.
ELIAS: Very well.
ROSE: Okay, let me think of one example. (Laughs) One of all these? Okay…. Oh, wow. It’s hard to choose, because there are qualities which go through several topics as a quality, and then there are these different topics—but we’ll choose one topic.
You said to me in one session when I was talking about my fear to end up stranded and very alone because I’m just the way I am and so on. And then you said, “But my friend, if that’s generated then you will have chosen to generate it, and if you do not want to generate that, you will not generate that.” And I said okay, I agree, but how do I do it? All I tried I experienced and I don’t… I mean, you said if you compare yourself you just discount yourself.
Oh god, I need to choose one example.
ELIAS: It matters not. Do not distress yourself in attempting to offer a specific example. Let us examine what are expressing, for you are correct in your identification that there are some qualities of all of the subject matters that are the same, regardless of the situation. I am aware that you generate this emotional pain, in your terms, in relation to yourself individually, in relation to what you view in your world and other individuals, and in many, many, many scenarios. You generate certain expressions that are the same in relation to fear and in relation to sadness.
ROSE: Yes.
ELIAS: You also generate a longing within yourself for situations and circumstances to be different.
Now; this is the key, for regardless of whether you are viewing an actual event which is occurring somewhere within your world that may be distressing or painful to you, or whether you are anticipating and projecting your attention in relation to yourself in fear and worry of what may be created in the future, what you are creating—or what you are doing—that is the common factor in any of these scenarios is that you are not paying attention to now, and you are not allowing yourself to appreciate what is actually occurring with you in the now.
This is not to say that you may not be expressing caring for other individuals and recognizing the choices that other individuals are engaging, and that THEY may be generating conflict or distress or painfulness in their choices and that you may not incorporate compassion for these scenarios, BUT not to lose sight, in your terms, of yourself and YOUR now, which is extremely important and is also tremendously influencing of your continuation in generating what you term to be this emotional pain.
For in paying attention to you in the now, you allow yourself to automatically dispel that painfulness, for there is a genuine recognition that these events are not actually occurring in your individual reality. This expression of emotional painfulness in relation to your dwelling, or your home, or whether you shall be incorporating employment, or whether you shall be homeless, in your terms: are you now?
ROSE: (Chuckles) No, I’m not.
ELIAS: Correct.
ROSE: If I would be, I would have no access to you, and so I feel I need to learn everything very fast. I’m reading, reading, reading, reading the material in every free minute, because the man I’m married to even said once, “If you do this and that, I don’t want to continue the relationship with you anymore,” and I was so frightened for a moment. I was just so frightened because I was already so very shifted and [inaudible] inside myself and so much in this pain. I was just so stressed, and I said, “How will I continue?”
You said you can create everything you want to, and if you don’t enjoy it disengage—if it is not fun, disengage. But I really have to deal and really struggle with my doubt in my capability to really provide me with a secure life with everything I need. I really have a doubt to create what I want and what I need and to be happy with it. I mean, that is what I want! I want to have a happy life. That’s on top of all the sessions I’m having with you.
ELIAS: I am understanding.
ROSE: I mean, happy [but] not all the time being happy, on top, ecstatically happy, but fulfilled, happy with my life. When I am, let’s say, at the end of this focus I would say, “Oh wow, that was worth it, that was a GOOD life.” That’s what I want!
ELIAS: Very well. And you are inquiring of myself how to be creating that, and I am expressing to you the manner in which you may. And the manner in which you may create this is to be moving your attention and holding your attention in the now, in the moment, and upon yourself. And what I am meaning in this is that you pay attention to what you are actually doing now—not tomorrow, not yesterday, not hours from this moment, but what you are actually doing NOW. And as you recognize what you are actually doing now, also acknowledge the reality that you are creating NOW, which is that you are not homeless; that you are not destitute, in your terms; that you ARE safe; that you ARE providing for yourself—and you are, my friend. Listen to what I am expressing to you, for I am quite aware that you credit your existence to other individuals rather than yourself.
You express to yourself yes, you incorporate a home, and you are provided for, and you are safe, for your partner provides this for you. No, your partner does not create your reality; YOU create your reality.
Therefore, regardless of whether you engage employment or not, you are creating your reality and providing for yourself what you perceive that you need.
ROSE: Okay. Okay.
ELIAS: Now; in this, the key, my friend, is to appreciate what you yourself are creating in the moment, even in the scenario which you have expressed in which your partner approaches you and expresses this and this and this condition as to their allowance of themself to continue a relationship with you.
Is the relationship dissolved? No; for you have not dissolved it.
Are you homeless? No; for you continue to create your dwelling.
Are you destitute? No. You continue to generate a reality which provides for you, but you are not viewing that. You do not SEE have what you have. You do not SEE what you actually create, for you busy yourself with what might be, futurely.
ROSE: Oh, I don’t understand everything because of the technical context.
ELIAS: You are busying your thoughts with what may perhaps be, or occur, in the future, and not paying attention to what is now.
ROSE: Elias, why am I not satisfied with what I have? For I want to have something else, I want to have more excitement in my life. I want it more exciting! I want it more colorful, and why am I just not satisfied?
ELIAS: It is not a question of being satisfied, necessarily. You may be wanting to generate different expressions, that which you term to be more—which in actuality is not necessarily more; it may merely be different—and there is no wrong expression in desiring this. What you are incorporating challenge with is the creation of that, and what I am expressing to you is what I have said to you concerning being in the now and appreciating yourself, and what you actually ARE generating is the key, for this empowers you. And in that recognition of your power, of what you have already created, you reinforce your trust of yourself and thusly allow yourself to dissipate the fear and move into new experiences that you want.
BUT—prior to moving to into new experiences that you want, within you individually it is necessary that you acknowledge yourself that you actually do incorporate the ability to create that, and the manner in which you shall reinforce your trust of yourself is to acknowledge what you already have created.
ROSE: Mm-hm.
ELIAS: To genuinely allow yourself a REAL recognition that no other individual has provided you with your reality—YOU have created it, regardless of your mass beliefs and the familiar associations that you generate.
ROSE: There is this, I think the term is called interference point, a focal point where all the material seems to be magical. It seems to be about magic (laughs). You provide us with information about factual things and topics, but then there comes this moment when it seems to be like you talk about…I mean, to put it in simple words, it’s like about magic. And my fear is that I could do anything that I would in a way regret and I am not able to create it in a similar quality once again—this fear of finding myself stranded one day.
You said to me what’s most important for me, as a final focus, individually, is “to discover the fullness of your freedom and allow yourself the free flow of your energy,” and these things touched me deeply, and I’m working with this. But there is a connection with freedom on this bit. Very often freedom is connected with loneliness and insecurity, and what I really need is this security, to be secure and sure that I can provide myself with whatever I need—may it be people, may it be situations, may it be means, may it be whatever. I really need to be secure and sure that I am the source of these things, and here we are back again at this magical point. I really need to make sure that I can, independently from anybody else, create myself a fulfilling life where I don’t feel all this tremendous PAIN any longer!
ELIAS: I am understanding, my friend.
ROSE: That’s why I’m here today.
ELIAS: And what have I expressed to you is the doorway to your freedom? (Pause) Tell me.
ROSE: Pardon, I didn’t understand because of the wire. Can you repeat this?
ELIAS: What have I expressed to you, in this conversation, as the doorway to your freedom?
ROSE: Appreciate yourself, acknowledge what you have already generated? This is the key, you said; correct?
ELIAS: Correct. And?
ROSE: And I picked up from the last session when I was talking about not liking to meet the day, engage the day, when you said, “Steer your attention.“ That belongs together, the appreciation, the acknowledging and this steering the attention.
ELIAS: Correct. And…?
ROSE: Being in the now.
ELIAS: YES!
ROSE: Pardon?
ELIAS: Yes.
ROSE: Yes.
ELIAS: This is the most significant: continuing to hold your attention in the now. For all that you have expressed to myself in this conversation concerns future.
ROSE: Yes.
EIAS: And anticipation of the potential, or the possibility, of certain events in the future.
ROSE: Yes. There is this confusion when you look to the rules—the rules of life, the rules and society I am living in which tell me you have to have a certain talent or you have to have a certain education to provide yourself with what you need and with security, and I have neither. I—
ELIAS: BUT—paying attention to the now and to you, have you provided yourself with security?
ROSE: Yes.
ELIAS: Precisely.
ROSE: That’s right! That’s right. Elias, this thought, which was… it was painful for me, over and over again, because I didn’t believe this sentence that you have to have this and that, otherwise you will end in the street. But suddenly I thought, “Oh! maybe they were right.” And then I was feeling great, tremendous pain. And suddenly there was the thought, “Maybe this is just a belief. Maybe I’m just aligning with a belief here.”
ELIAS: Correct.
ROSE: And then I was reading about this four-step process of noticing, recognizing, addressin and accepting—is this what I’m going through? Like, “Aha, there is this belief, let us have a close look through it and accept it, and by that release it and release the energy it holds”?
ELIAS: Yes.
ROSE: Ah… Elias, we have a lot to do to work through this. (Both laugh)
Can you think anything else than a belief in this earth plane? I mean, we have intuitional thoughts which we translate into thought, but apart from that, can we think anything else than a belief?
ELIAS: It is not necessary that you think beliefs. Beliefs are an aspect of the design of this physical dimension—they merely are, and there are countless, numberless beliefs within belief systems. And every individual that occupies your physical dimension incorporates all of the beliefs that are associated with this physical dimension.
Now; the key in your understanding of beliefs is that you recognize that you do not express all of the beliefs. You choose certain beliefs. You choose certain beliefs in association with your society that you choose to be participating within; you choose certain beliefs in association with each belief system, but there are many, many more beliefs that are latent within you.
Now; the source of your freedom is to recognize that all of your reality is associated with the influence of beliefs, but your freedom is expressed in choice, that you may choose which beliefs you shall engage. There are many that you do NOT engage. There are many that you do not express. And in this, each belief influences in a different manner.
Now; you incorporate, as an example, the same beliefs that an individual within another physical location of your world incorporates, and perhaps that individual expresses quite strong religious beliefs—perhaps a Muslim. And in those beliefs which influence their perception, which creates their reality, perhaps they choose to be expressing beliefs concerning the manner in which they attire themselves, the manner in which they interact with other individuals, the manner in which they choose to be expressing their focus in relation to a religious expression. You incorporate these same beliefs; you merely do not express them. They are latent within you.
ROSE: I see. But how does this relate to talent? I mean, I’m always envious—and I don’t know why, but I’m envious about these people which are somehow special, these bright people which have this interesting and exciting life, as it looks like—okay, let’s say as it looks like. For example if I would like to have a life like, let’s say any superstar, and I would say, “Okay, I can do whatever I like and I can create all the reality,” but I don’t have the same talents. Maybe I don’t have the same voice, if we talk about a singer. And I would start to move myself in this direction, do some actions, but I couldn’t become so successful in this expression because I don’t have the talent.
ELIAS: Not necessarily. This is also an influence of an influence of your beliefs, that you discount yourself and compare yourself with other individuals, and you express to yourself that you do not possess a certain quality, which is incorrect. You do; you merely choose not to express that.
ROSE: Yes, but… but there is another thing. We have this time phenomenon on earth. For example, my partner now has this career, he has been working on this career, and it took him several years to come to the point where he is now. If I would start now, I would have to go the same way—if I had the talent, which I don’t have, or which I maybe internally have but not obviously—and I would take the same amount of time. I would not be in time! Do you understand what I mean?
ELIAS: I am understanding what you are expressing, and I am also expressing to you that this is incorrect. This is dependent upon your beliefs and what you choose. Perhaps you—
ROSE: But it’s not the apple. You can create an apple in your hand, but you don’t believe that you can so you can’t. It’s about this.
ELIAS: Correct.
ROSE: But how do I make myself BELIEVE that I can create the apple?
ELIAS: (Sighs) Allow yourself, once again, to recognize what you HAVE created. This is the key, for you do not believe that you have created this; you believe that other individuals have created it for you.
ROSE: I see.
ELIAS: And in this, you look to the process of another individual and you express to yourself, “I cannot generate this, for even if I allowed myself to generate this type of action I would be incorporating much time framework and it shall take too long.” Not necessarily, and in generating that type of thinking, what are you actually doing? Are you actually creating what you want? No! You are incorporating ongoing time frameworks in which you stifle yourself, and you do not allow yourself your own freedom.
ROSE: Yes, but Elias! Okay, I recognize what I have created, I acknowledge what I have created, I steer my attention, and then I stand there with my hand open and I say, “Oh, I know I can create the apple in my hand.” And I close my eyes, and I imagine this apple, and I open my eyes, and where is my apple? (Laughs)
ELIAS: What are you creating?
I am not expressing to you that you cannot actually realistically generate a physical manifestation of an apple, for you may, and you can, and you do have this ability. BUT—what shall the apple provide you with other than a parlor trick? Shall it convince you that you incorporate the ability to create whatever you want?
ROSE: Yes.
ELIAS: No.
ROSE: Why not?
ELIAS: For, it is a matter of your attention and your trust of yourself, my friend, in every expression of your focus. And perhaps you may surprise yourself and you may manifest an apple within your hand, and you shall be elated that you have created this. BUT—subsequently you move your attention to the idea of what you want to create in what you term to be your life as a relationship or a career or any other expression that involves other individuals, and you have not generated the trust, regardless of your apple.
ROSE: That’s right. Elias, it is like you want to make a party. You choose who you invite, you create a very beautiful setting and everything, and people come and they just got in the mood to make this party a nice party and make it a vivid celebration of life.
ELIAS: Correct. But how shall YOU interact? And this is what is important. How shall YOU generate the celebration? How shall YOU present yourself to the party, regardless of the choice of other individuals?
ROSE: Okay. Then let’s go into specifics. For example you want to dance, and there is just nobody who wants to dance with you.
ELIAS: Therefore, shall you deny yourself the expression of dancing?
ROSE: No. No, I can dance alone. That’s not the point—the point is I would like to dance with a partner.
ELIAS: And perhaps in allowing yourself to dance alone, you may influence your reality and another individual may be motivated to dance with you.
ROSE: Uh-huh.
ELIAS: It is allowing yourself YOUR expression of freedom first.
ROSE: Yes. I understand.
ELIAS: For, --
ROSE: This I something I understand. But Elias, there is one MORE thing—we really have a lot today.
There are these things: if it’s no fun, disengage. The job I have taken, there are moments which I enjoy, and there are qualities on the job which I appreciate in which I say, “Oh, this interesting;” most of the time this is good. And then there are other moments when I say, “Oh, this job is damn shit, I don’t want it. I want something else. I’m just here for these certain qualities,” and then I leave. But what for? I don’t have any other job in, we would say, “in the ribs.” The thing is, I understand that there is a kind of succession from moment to moment to moment, and I don’t have to plan, and I don’t have to, like, with those [inaudible], one thing after the other, but living is moment after moment. Right?
ELIAS: In a manner of speaking.
ROSE: Okay. So, there is again this magical thing. It seems to have to do with this blinking in and out, which appears to be an enduring thing, but it is in actuality just a moment-to-moment life. Again, because I need the security, for example if I would in one moment decide, “Okay, no matter what if I finish this job NOW,” then I will be unemployed, but it’s a hard time to get a new job. Okay—how do I…? There is again this…
Looking at this topic from another angle, how do I make sure that I have access to whatever I want to have access to, and how do I make this sure?
This is why people cling to the things, because they fear that they will not have access to something else.
ELIAS: I am understanding, but this once again is dependent upon you paying attention to YOU, in the NOW, and recognizing what you are creating through your perception. I may not stress this to you strongly enough, for I am quite aware that the base element in all of our discussions is that you do not yet recognize that you actually do create all of your reality and that you actually choose all of it. There are still associations that you generate in which you express the perception that other individuals or circumstances create some of your reality which is beyond your control.
ROSE: That is how you perceive the world from our end.
ELIAS: Not necessarily, but this is the manner in which YOU perceive it.
ROSE: Yes. Usually, you are a child, your parents provide you with what you need, you grow up and then you provide yourself with it in relation to other beings. That’s how you perceive it on this earth plane. And you know it’s [inaudible]—I know that.
When you want to be free you usually have to have money, power or a talent or whatever, but if you are poor you have a very, very limited frame in which you can move freely. You cannot just jump into an airplane and say, “Okay, ha ha ha! I want to go to, let’s say Africa,” and they will ask you for the money, and if you don’t have the money then they say, “But why, my dear?” That’s… You understand what I mean.
ELIAS: Let me express to you, my friend, an individual that has created the scenario of your greatest fear, an individual that has created the scenario of being homeless upon your streets, so to speak, may incorporate more freedom than you allow yourself.
ROSE: I know! I know why it is.
ELIAS: For this individual recognizes their choice to be creating that type of scenario and that type of existence, and does not allow any other individual to dictate to them what their reality shall be.
ROSE: Oh, but Elias, they are not safe, there is robbery, it’s quite cruel to live on the streets—these people are very cruel to each other.
ELIAS: In your perception.
ROSE: No, that’s often what they say to me.
ELIAS: Very well, but it is your perception.
ROSE: Yes, but being beaten and being threatened with a knife, usually as a normal person you don’t perceive that as an enjoyable action.
ELIS: This is what I am expressing to you as the identification of your lack of acceptance of the reality that you create all of your reality, even other individuals and those scenarios. It is a projection of your perception. Therefore,--
ROSE: Being I am an “Elias” being, and I’m all the time permanently aware that I create every single moment and every single experience, then I will be standing there smiling at the others, saying, “Ah, here you are! Now you provide me… and you, I say, are me, we are one, now we experience this experience of murder or killing or whatever…”? “Let’s do it, let’s experience, oh how fun”?
ELIAS: This is your perception, my friend. It is no different than your experiences within your subway and how you incorporate the power to alter your perception and therefore also alter the actual physical reality for it.
ROSE: By the way, the subway is very interesting and funny now. (Laughs)
ELIAS: Ah, but how depressing it was previously, was it not?
ROSE: Correct! That’s why I mention it. I was sitting yesterday morning and thinking of Elias and said, “Oh how funny, how interesting. How nice it is to be on this subway this morning! What a difference from two or three weeks ago.” [1]
ELIAS: Now; if you may alter your perception concerning the subway, you may also may alter your perception which alters your actual physical reality in relation to individuals that may be homeless.
ROSE: Hm. Elias, am I somehow stupid with this? I mean, do I…act somehow stupid on this? Or what is it?
ELIAS: No. I may express to you that I recognize that you question yourself in this manner, and many times you assess yourself to be stupid, but you are not. You are merely attempting to generate an objective understanding of these concepts, in like manner to many other individuals, my friend. They are difficult. They are unfamiliar. You are correct, I am aware of how the average individual perceives their world and themselves in very similar manner to yourself, and that they express very similarly to yourself that there are some aspects of life and of your world that merely are—they are not what you have created, they just are. And this is incorrect, and this concept—
ROSE: I understand. I mean, that’s what I find in your material and what I’m starting to study. And by this study the old, the familiar get in a way like shaken, and then we are in a very confused state in between, but I hope I will be clear and I will come to a place and understanding where you are at consciously and objectively.
ELIAS: And this is the point, my friend. And it is a process. There is no finish line. It is a process, and in—
ROSE: And you are still exploring yourself also?
ELIAS: This is the nature of consciousness, my friend.
ROSE: I see.
ELIAS: Every aspect of consciousness is continuously exploring.
ROSE: (Laughs) Wow. I will find more about this material. I wanted to ask in this session some very personal things, because these are the things I’m struggling with or dealing with. So for the last minutes we have left, can I change the topic?
ELIAS: You may.
ROSE: Okay. About the relationships, why am I moving away from my partner? I truly appreciate him, but I don’t feel so [inaudible] or drawn to him anymore. And I don’t know if I can change this if I WOULD like to change this. Could I change it again into a very fine partnership?
ELIAS: Yes, but this is not what you want, and you are already aware of that.
ROSE: Yeah. The point is the security, and you know. Why did I move away? Just because I wanted to experience something different?
ELIAS: In a manner of speaking.
ROSE: You said that my potential leans more towards this other man.
ELIAS: But you generate fear, for you create many expectations of yourself, and you generate this fear that you shall create loss. And once again, this is the base of our discussion this day: recognizing what you have already created, therefore reinforcing yourself that you do incorporate the ability to create your reality and to create what you want, for you already have. And, you do incorporate the ability to generate this security and this safety, for you already have.
And in this, whatever you chose—now—you may trust yourself that you shall continue to create your security, for you have already evidenced this to yourself.
ROSE: Mm. Ja, you know how our life goes, that you can do this while you are young, but from a certain age you need to provide yourself with security for the old age and so on—these are the beliefs, I meant, with which I am struggling now.
ELIAS: I am aware. But they also, once again, concern the future.
ROSE: I know!
Once again, about the past relationship: you said that my essence is intertwined with the newest essence. How about the essence of myself and the essence with my husband? Are we as familiar as [name] and me?
ELIAS: Yes, but in different manners.
ROSE: What is the difference?
ELIAS: You merely express different experiences and different qualities. What you are expressing in THIS now is more of an attention in relation to the OTHER individual.
ROSE: Mm. I didn’t hear what you said, can you repeat it?
ELIAS: Very well. You are generating movement in this now in relation to an exploration of experiences with this other individual. You HAVE generated experiences with your partner, and your attention is moving. It is not that one is more significant or more important than the other; they are merely different. What IS significant is where YOU are directing YOUR attention and what YOU want, and what motivates that want. What motivates your want in relation to the other individual is your desire for freedom within yourself. What motivates your want in relation to your partner is fear.
ROSE: Is what? Security?
ELIAS: Fear.
ROSE: Why fear?
ELIAS: For, you view your partner as the source of your security, rather than viewing yourself as the source of your security.
ROSE: It hasn’t been like that through all the years. It has changed from last week! Since I went into this tremendous confusion and painful process, it suddenly changed. It hasn’t been like that before; before it has been about partnership and above all great love.
ELIAS: I am understanding.
ROSE: Elias, there is one thing: When I close my eyes, when I see them I perceive that there is already an individual approaching him, another woman, and then I perceive how the structure of the things are changing, how my daughter will find a different place, how my partner’s life is arranging in a different way, how I am moving away, how I find myself, my way, in California. And when I open my eyes again it’s just like, “Are you mad? Everything’s all in order here, everything is fine.” And it seems like with experiences I have when I close my eyes I’ve been mad, but when I close them it seems to be so very clear. It’s like I could even observe it.
ELIAS: For this—
ROSE: I open my eyes, and the world is completely different, and I’m confused.
ELIAS: You are confused merely in relation to your fear.
ROSE: Yes, that’s right. Is this perception that I have when I close my eyes correct?
ELIAS: It is the expression of your desire, yes, and it is quite real. And it is a moment in which you allow yourself to listen to you.
ROSE: Pay attention to me?
ELIAS: Yes.
ROSE: Did you say this is what I want, how I would like to have it? Or simply observe how the things are moving through my desire?
ELIAS: Both.
ROSE: Both!
ELIAS: Yes.
ROSE: Aha. So I’m not fooling myself.
ELIAS: No.
ROSE: Is there already an individual approaching my partner, my husband?
ELIAS: Potentially.
ROSE: Mm-hm. I perceive it like that. I sometimes tune into things without putting the action internally and it turns out like that. And that’s what I see, like there’s already an individual, a woman approaching him. So, you just said potentially, and he says, “I’m not open for it. As long as I’m with you, I am not open.”
Elias, the last few questions: Do I have a focus as a boy in New York or another American big city?
ELIAS: Yes. New York.
ROSE: New York. And do I have a focus as a man, like a middle-aged man in India, somewhere in India?
ELIAS: Yes.
ROSE: And when you said the way I come to your place, your area, your perception, is through calmness [2], did you mean meditation-like calmness?
ELIAS: Not necessarily.
ROSE: What did you mean?
ELIAS: Merely through relaxing your energy.
ROSE: Relaxing my energy.
ELIAS: Correct.
ROSE: By moving away from this tightness.
ELIAS: Correct.
ROSE: Well, that’s what I experience. Oh, Elias. (Sighs)
(Laughs) That’s good. That’s good. Okay, last thing: I have much more need and much more longing for interaction with you on an objective level than I can provide myself with because of money and because other people also want to talk with you. And I know you offer helpfulness for all of us without any break, but during the day, how can I connect in the best way?
ELIAS: Allow yourself to relax, allow yourself to move your attention to sensing—not necessarily thinking, but sensing—and allow yourself and openness in sensing my energy with you. And I shall express different energies of blue quality which, if you are allowing yourself in openness, you may begin noticing, and this shall allow you to sense my energy with you.
ROSE: Ah, thank you.
ELIAS: You are quite welcome.
ROSE: And last question for today, Why do I [inaudible] with, like if I want something and if I’m close to getting it I jump away thinking, “Oh, I don’t want it anymore, I want something else”? Is it something because I do not really want what I want?
ELIAS: Not necessarily. This is also an expression of trust and fear, the lack of trust of your own ability.
ROSE: Uh-huh. Okay. This is a wide area; we will take it another time.
ELIAS: Very well, my friend.
ROSE: Elias, I’m very thankful for this. You answered a lot in this session. I would not have thought that we could make it all, but we have done a lot. Thank you very, very, very, very, very much.
ELIAS: You are quite welcome, my friend. I shall be anticipating our next conversation, and I shall be offering my energy to you.
ROSE: So, ‘til the next time, bye-bye.
ELIAS: In tremendous affection, au revoir.
ROSE: Au revoir.
(Elias departs after 1 hour 7 minutes)
[1] and [2] Referring to previous session #200209251.
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