Tuesday, January 24, 2006

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Marcy (Lylin)

ELIAS: Good day!

MARCY: Hello! (Laughing) Oh, it’s so good to talk to you!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! And what shall we discuss?

MARCY: Well, of course, I have my list, and of course I’m probably not going to talk about any of those things that are on my list! (Both laugh) I have created two amazing things for myself within the last few weeks, and I know you’re aware of it energetically, but I want to do show and tell; I want to tell you all about it. The first one is I have created, believe it or not, my own version of Ludwig.

ELIAS: Ah!

MARCY: Yeah! It was the Thursday before New Years; I was invited over to a friend’s house for dinner. I showed up, Scott is standing there cooking dinner, and I look over to the table and there’s this man sitting here, and it was as if the face of Ludwig that I have as my desktop wallpaper had taken shape and was embodied in this man sitting in the kitchen! (Elias chuckles) I was staring at him. He looks just like him, silver hair kind of sticking out, curly, brown eyes, sort of a portly body shape and stuff. Scott says this is my friend Alan, and I’m shaking his hand and I can hardly speak. It was amazing, the resemblance. So, then we had dinner, and we were talking. It was all I could do to act normal, because I would look at this man, look him in the eye, and it was like, oh my god, I’m sitting here talking to the physical embodiment of Elias! I was like overloaded; (laughing) I couldn’t even talk.

Of course, it’s a different essence, I know, and everything, but it was... When you say that you create what you concentrate upon, you ain’t kidding! You ain’t just whistling Dixie! (Elias laughs) It’s amazing. Of course, he’s different from your Ludwig: he smiles, he’s very cheerful. Since that time I have not yet created getting together with him again, because I went through a period of time where I was getting Ludwig, Elias and this Alan confused in my mind because the face was your face, it was Ludwig’s face, and I would remember this man’s face and it would all start to go together. I thought this isn’t good, I can’t attribute to this man affection and feeling that I have for you, so I worked that through. So anyway, it looks like I will eventually create getting together with this man again, but it was amazing.

ELIAS: Congratulations!

MARCY: Thank you! I don’t know what else to say about that; it was just that I could not wait to tell you. (Elias laughs) I told my friend about this, and he had never heard of anyone doing this before. I don’t know, is there anything you want to say about this, tell me about this, how I could’ve created this? It just blows me away.

ELIAS: You already know.

MARCY: (Laughs) I know! At one point when I was talking to him, or several times, were you around at all, were you aware of that at all?

ELIAS: Yes.

MARCY: I know a couple of times... Are you still there? My telephone’s being funny.

ELIAS: Yes.

MARCY: Okay. There were a couple of times where I’d look in his eyes and I would suddenly, like, oh my god, did Elias just peek out at me? (Elias laughs) So, you did, huh?

ELIAS: Yes.

MARCY: Cool! Awesome, that’s awesome! Is that going to continue? Every time I’m with this man, am I going to lose my mind?

ELIAS: I may express to you that you incorporate the ability to generate the identification of not merely similarities but also differences, and appreciate the individual for his own expressions.

MARCY: That was part of what I was wrestling with. I wanted to appreciate him as himself, and not be... Because he looks like you! (Elias laughs)

Okay, I’m going right into my next subject. Last Thursday morning – and I really want to talk with you about this, because it was amazing – normally, when I think about you and we have energetic interactions, usually for my own comfort I translate those into sort of a visualization. I dreamed of you once, months and months ago, as this very tall, sort of portly gentleman, and so I visualize that. We give each other a big hug or you smile at me or whatever, and that’s my translation of how we’re interacting energetically. So, Thursday morning I was laying in bed – I woke up really, really early – and I was thinking about that and really enjoying the interaction, and all of a sudden that was gone, disappeared. I saw what I can only describe as a field of living conscious energy, but without the translation of emotion. It was very weird. It was actually kind of disconcerting, because I was like this is Elias as he really is, not through the translation of the communication of emotion – which I know is what you use to communicate with us, because it’s what we understand – and on a connecting level, as a language, that was gone. Now, first, let me ask my first question: did I translate that, did I perceive that correctly?

ELIAS: Yes.

MARCY: Oh cool! Oh good! It was amazing. Then I started feeling slightly upset, because I tried to connect on an emotional level with you and it didn’t work. I was thinking oh no, I’ve lost the lovingness; I’ve lost that wonderful, warm, fuzzy feeling. But then I thought no, no, now I’ve allowed myself to perceive this, and I can adapt to this, I can adjust to this. So, I sort of started to create myself becoming more comfortable, just for a few minutes. Then I realized that what I really wanted to know, because I didn’t feel an emotional connection, I wanted to know if our friendship was still okay. I visualized myself holding out my hand, saying, “Elias, are we still okay as friends?” and this hand came out of this field of consciousness and grasped my hand, and it was so funny! Then I saw this ripple go across the field, and the word that came to mind was “mirth.” I realized what I was seeing was what comes across on the phone as Elias going ha-ha-ha, like you always do, your big laugh and your jovial laugh, but I was actually seeing it at an energetic level, right?

ELIAS: Yes.

MARCY: Oh wow! Oh my god! I’ve been playing with that, and it’s been changing how I experience this field. Sometimes it’s sort of like water that washes over me, and then sometimes it’s this field of sparkly blue. I go out and I just sort of stand there, and our energies mingle with my body conscious energy, and I’m standing there and I’m like this sparkly blue person. Then I will see ripples through this energy field. I’m learning how to translate what that is, what you’re experiencing, right? Am I doing that?

ELIAS: Yes. Let me also express to you, my friend, this is a significant experience that you are allowing yourself. For in allowing yourself to generate the experiences with my energy without the interjection of emotion, it allows you to view differences but also to recognize that your reality is real, that regardless of whether I express an energy with you that is devoid of the expression of emotion, that does not discount or invalidate your experiences and your reality as incorporating emotion, for that is what you experience, and that is very real.

MARCY: Right, exactly. It was cool, and it was interesting, and I’ve really been enjoying it. I’ll try different words – I’ll try “what does lovingness mean?” I understand now why you use that term; it is so different than the word “love.” I’ll project the word “love,” and it’s like a pencil drawing on a flat piece of paper. It’s very two dimensional, very colorless. But then I’ll think lovingness, what’s that, and oh my god, I’ll get this three dimensional image. It’s rich and deep and full, and it’s alive, and there’s rainbows of color swirling through it. And I’m like this is why you use this term! When I’m looking at it, I’m not feeling an emotion, but I am feeling a sense of something, not emotion, but it’s still very deep. I guess it’s awareness, that’s all I can think of, because it’s almost better than emotion.

ELIAS: I am understanding. For it is not necessarily a feeling, it is a sense. It is an expression of association with warmth and comfort and acceptance.

MARCY: Yes, exactly. Sometimes I thought, without the translation of emotion essence is cool and detached, and it’s not. It’s not emotions, but there is... I see it rippling through you. Your energy is very impish. It’s fun; it’s playful. It doesn’t have to incorporate emotion to still be all those things. It’s very accepting. There’s a feeling of warmth without being an emotion of warmth, and it’s amazing! It’s an amazing way of perceiving you.

ELIAS: I am understanding. For, emotion is born of a subjective communication to an objective awareness. If there is no objective awareness, that communication is not necessary.

View your creatures. It is not that they do not incorporate what you can translate as feeling; they do. But they do not incorporate emotion, for it is not necessary, for they exist in the subjective. Therefore, there is no need for any translation of communication. You incorporate emotion as a communication that is directly associated and attached to feelings. Those are your signals. Emotional feelings are different from other feelings. You can feel without emotion, but you do not present yourself with emotion without feeling. In this, a creature is responsive and expressive and feels, but does not incorporate emotion.

It is similar within consciousness: there is no emotion, for it is not necessary. It is challenging for individuals within your physical reality to generate a clear understanding of that, for it is unfamiliar and it is not a part of your reality. Your reality does incorporate emotion, and that is very real. Therefore, your associations with it are very strong, and if there is an expression of energy that is devoid of emotion, you perceive that to be flat. You do not interpret in that manner with a creature, for you automatically generate your own association with emotion and transfer that association to the creature, although the creature is not experiencing that. This is the reason that I express to you that you people-ize creatures.

MARCY: People humanize all kinds of things. They’ll say the trees are happy or my dog is happy or my fish is mad at me, and of course, that’s ridiculous.

ELIAS: Correct, for these are not expressions that these manifestations incorporate in the same manner as do you. But this is not to say that they do not incorporate an energy of feeling, and so does consciousness.

MARCY: That’s why I’m so happy that I’m understanding now what it’s like and what you’ve talked about. When you say all this stuff, it’s like yeah! It’s so clear to me now. I mean, it’s not like I want to get rid of emotions, but I also think it’d be kind of fun to toy with this consciousness without the emotion and watch how the ripples go across my field, and then say to myself okay, what was that, how would I translate that as an emotion, and then figure out how that is. It’s really, really fun. I know you perceive us as energy, and so I’m thinking that in a small way I’m perceiving you the same way. I’m translating this little ripple, and sometimes it’ll go outwardly, sometimes it’ll go straight across, and then I’ll wait and a word will occur to me, and that’s the translation of what that is, and it’s so much fun. It’s so interesting, because I feel like I’ve suddenly come into something that I didn’t even realize was there.

ELIAS: Ha ha! And we are playing a game.

MARCY: Yeah, it is! I love it!

ELIAS: In this, it also validates your reality, that you do incorporate the ability to experience unfamiliarities and that you can translate them into your reality – and that being very real with you is valid, but that you also are offering yourself information concerning different languages.

Language is expressed in many, many, many different forms, not merely audibly, verbally in sounds. Language can be expressed in many different forms, and in that, as you become more familiar with differences in language, you expand your awareness, and in that expansion of awareness, you do not necessarily automatically generate an absolute association with different languages. You allow yourself to stop and consider how that can be translated, what is actually being expressed, rather than generating an automatic association that may not necessarily be accurate.

MARCY: Yeah, exactly! That’s just it; it feels like another way of being able to understand what I’m creating and what’s around me and what life from my consciousness is all about. Everything that I see, it’s like I looked at ground zero, where it starts, you know? I mean, in a way; I don’t know if I’m explaining that. I feel this translation, how I’ve translated all of this, but what’s behind all this translation, this consciousness is living something or other. What’s behind all this translation, it’s so interesting!

ELIAS: This also allows you more of an awareness of energy, and that offers you an example that you can translate to yourself of how you project energy also, and how it ripples and how it is interactive and affecting, even if you are not communicating in your familiar manner and even if you are not interacting physically or in physical proximity with other individuals.

MARCY: That’s something that I’ve been toying with for a couple of years now. I will suddenly feel a surge of energy and I’ll think of a person, and I know that they are either thinking of me or subjectively they have projected energy to me and I’m picking it up on it. I try to practice identifying who it is and maybe interacting back, and I’m wondering are they understanding that there’s actually an interaction going on, or do they just think oh, I just thought of Marcy today, but do they realize there’s actually exchange happening. I think that’s real interesting; I think I’m getting better at that as well.

Well, we’ve got some more time; we’ve got seven minutes, so let’s see. I’m learning to sing; I’m learning to sing Italian opera. I wanted to ask you a focus question that… I don’t usually come up with my own focuses, but one of the things, I was sort of holding back my voice. My voice coach said let it rip, just put lots of air out. So, I was trying to do that with my (inaudible) and just blast out air, and I sort of looked down in my mind’s eye at myself, and I was this rotund man, middle aged possibly, and I got, I don’t know, maybe German or Italian or whatever, and I was an opera singer, and I was just blasting. When I hook into that, I can really cut loose with my voice, and so I was thinking maybe I actually have a focus as a male opera singer somewhere.

ELIAS: Yes.

MARCY: Oh cool! Awesome, because it seemed so real, it was like that’s me. When I tap into this man – I’m thinking maybe he sang baritone, or not a high voice like mine – I can feel myself singing all the way to the back of the theater, and it’s awesome, it’s so cool! I’m going to have to tap into this guy more. Okay another question, as far as singing: do you have any connection with Hildegard von Bingen?

ELIAS: (Pause) Counterpart, yes.

MARCY: Awesome! Because another essence told me once that their perception was that I have focus who expressed as her ward and a student of hers, a novice nun, student/ward type of thing, and that felt right to me. I don’t know what your perception is of that.

ELIAS: Yes, I would validate.

MARCY: You would validate that, okay. There are times, for a long time ever since I heard it, I have wanted to sing her music, and when I sing her music, it’s familiar. I think I sang it the first time it was written. She probably coached me. She was an amazing woman, and she did a lot of different things, besides. She was an herbalist; she had a complete pharmacology back when they didn’t have that kind of thing. I feel like I’ve tapped into that, the things she taught me in that focus, when I put together my herbs, my body oils, and when I sing, when I play music and that kind of thing. So cool! I’m glad to hear that you validate that as well. (Elias laughs) Awesome! So, you have counterpart action, I’m so pleased to know that. I mean, I know that we have jillions of counterpart actions with a lot of different people, but that’s really neat, because that feels like some kind of connection. I’m always happy to find out that I have a connection with you somewhere else. In fact, I even feel like you and I have played together maybe in a lot of other dimensions, maybe even more so than this one.

ELIAS: Yes.

MARCY: Cool! Here’s another question I don’t know if anyone has ever asked you, but possibly they have and I just don’t know about it, but did we ever share a focus where one of us was the directing essence and one of us was an observing essence, you and my essence?

ELIAS: Yes.

MARCY: Oh, we did! That’s awesome! (Elias chuckles) That’s so neat! Is that a focus that expressed as one of my focuses?

ELIAS: Both.

MARCY: Oh, how neat! So, you and I have talked a bunch of times, haven’t we? Too fun! (Elias laughs) That’s why it feels so good. I feel like your and my energy mingles quite a bit, and it feels very comfortable and very like old friends. I’m not going to ask you for names or anything, because I don’t really often care much about that, but I’m just pleased to find out about that.

Now I guess I’ll have to go to my list. All right, here’s one I will ask you for a name, because I am so not good at that because details escape me. I’m not sure if it’s because I’m Sumari or not. I would like to know if you would be so kind to convey to me one expression where you express as a focus and I express as a focus when we had a very significant relationship. It could be father and daughter, it could have been a marriage type thing, it could have been student and teacher. It doesn’t matter what it is, but one that was very significant to both of us. Would you do that?

ELIAS: Very well. I shall offer to you a focus in the time framework of 1500s in which we share a focus in what you recognize as South Africa. In that focus, both individuals are native African and are partners incorporating several children. In that focus, there is a very strong family expression and also very strong associations with the small community in which we participate. This focus is one that incorporates strong expressions of emotion and compassion and also incorporates relatively little conflict.

MARCY: Well, good. That’s nice. I’m not a favorite of conflict, although I do create it at times. (Elias laughs) Wow, well, thank you! That’s wonderful. I can feel a little bit of that; that feels very nice. Thank you so much.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

MARCY: I promised Mary I wouldn’t go over, because she has people who don’t respect her boundaries. I guess we’re going to have to say goodbye, but thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome. I express to you much affection and great encouragement, my friend.

MARCY: Thank you; I express to you much, much affection as well.

ELIAS: In great lovingness and playfulness to you, my friend, au revoir.

MARCY: Au revoir.

Elias departs after 30 minutes.

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