Thursday, September 15, 2005 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Carl (Shani)
(Elias’ arrival time is 16 seconds.)
ELIAS: Good morning!
CARL: Good morning to you!
ELIAS: Welcome! And what shall we discuss?
CARL: I’ve got a couple of physical questions, and then I have a couple of spiritual type questions. I suppose the physical ones are related to the spiritual, but that’s a different story. (Elias chuckles)
So, I’ve had this problem with my left heel for about eight months. Gail/William has been giving me your transcripts to read, and I’m getting the picture that that’s like a signal of an emotion to communicate something to me. But I’m just not getting anything, and I thought maybe you might shed some light on that one. Her take was that it’s in relationship to the fact that I’m moving right now and has to do with the grounding of my red energy center. I’ve only been reading your stuff for like two months, so I don’t have a complete handle on all the terminology yet. So there you have it, question one, my heel.
ELIAS: (Chuckles) And what is your impression or your assessment of what is associated with this physical manifestation? What have you noticed in relation to this manifestation?
CARL: The most obvious thing is that when I put attention on it is when it gets worse.
ELIAS: Yes.
CARL: Sometimes I won’t feel a thing. It won’t hurt at all, and I’ll think hey, my foot’s not bothering me, and all of a sudden it’ll start bothering me, I’ll think about it, and then it’ll be worse. But there are a lot of occasions when I’m not thinking about it and all of a sudden it just turns on, like a very sharp pain, like somebody is sticking like a nail in my heel. I went to the doc and they told me it was just a tight tendon or something, that I needed to do some stretching exercises. Like yeah, right! I figured it was psychological, psychosomatic, but I just don’t know why.
ELIAS: In this, what was occurring in the time framework in which it began?
CARL: In November of last year, I was diagnosed with prostate cancer, and I didn’t do what the medical field wanted to do. I went holistic health, and they said you have to cut out certain foods and quit drinking. I was drinking a lot then, like every night. Right after I stopped drinking and got that news was when these little things started turning on. I just assumed that because I wasn’t making myself numb all the time that these things were just starting to manifest, because before, they were being submerged, as it were.
ELIAS: Not necessarily. I may express to you that the advice that you presented to yourself in association with incorporating more flexibility with that area of your body consciousness would be actually beneficial, and it may be beneficial not merely in association with your heel but also in allowing you to incorporate an action physically that will also remind you to be incorporating more flexibility with yourself in general.
You are generating a rigidness in your energy and a tension in your energy, which you are directing that into specific physical areas of your body consciousness, which it is reflecting. You are generating tension in that physical area of your heel, and it is associated with a lack of flexibility.
Incorporating physical actions many times generates more affectingness than what they may be specifically generated for, for that allows the body consciousness to release energy that is being held and restrained. Many times individuals, such as yourself also, become so familiar with incorporating tension within the physical body consciousness that you do not actually notice, and it becomes...
CARL: So it’s the tension?
ELIAS: Correct.
CARL: And it builds up.
ELIAS: It becomes so familiar that you forget what the experience of being relaxed is. Therefore, at times, it may be generated in such a constant manner that eventually you begin to generate a manifestation that is uncomfortable to direct your attention to address to the situation of the constant tension.
In this, incorporating physical actions to intentionally release energy may be quite beneficial. It does not necessarily move in the direction of some type of structured action, some type of structured exercise, but incorporating some type of physical movement that allows you to intentionally release energy.
I frequently, with individuals, suggest that they incorporate the action of walking, for this allows you to engage the entirety of your body consciousness in a physical action, and it allows you to intentionally release energy in a flexible manner and in a manner that is non-invasive.
Incorporating movement in water is also a very beneficial manner to be releasing energy. That may be more effective in your situation than the action of walking, for it allows for you to be incorporating physical movement without incorporating any pressure in any area of your physical body consciousness.
CARL: So, if I were to be more aware of factors in my day-to-day life that are creating the stress, be more conscious of it, would that not in and of itself alleviate some of the tension or eradicate it altogether if I’m spotting it correctly?
ELIAS: Yes.
CARL: So, seeing this is happening, acknowledging it, and therefore, I’ve accepted it and it’s not being covered up, as it were, stored on the back burner and building up a ridge.
ELIAS: Yes. Correct, that is the significance of being aware of what you are actually doing.
Paying attention to what triggers that type of response is also important, for that allows you the opportunity to evaluate what is actually occurring and what you are actually generating in anticipation, rather than what you are actually doing, and [it] allows you to differentiate in the now of what is actually occurring and what is not actually occurring. Much anticipation in individuals is not what is actually occurring in the moment, and therefore is unnecessary. But if the individual is not paying attention, they are not recognizing that what they are anticipating is not occurring in the now, for they are not paying attention to the now.
CARL: Like to the future or whatever.
ELIAS: Correct, or even past experiences. To an extent, in balance with yourself, all individuals incorporate some projection of future or past, but the point is not to be incorporating that action to the exclusion of the now, for the now is ultimately the most important, for that is what actually creates the past and the future. Therefore, if you are not paying attention to what you are doing now, subsequently you are not offering yourself an awareness of what you have created, and thusly, you move into questioning what is occurring in the future.
It is important, also, to be aware of what type of energy you are projecting. The manner in which you gauge that is to pay attention to what you are actually doing, or not doing, and what you are reflecting to yourself through other individuals. Remember that feeling is not necessarily an indicator of what type of energy you are projecting. What you are doing is the indicator.
CARL: Of the energy you are projecting.
ELIAS: Correct.
CARL: I’m still a little unclear on what different types of energy there are to project, other than just energy in and of itself.
ELIAS: The energy that you project is associated with what you are doing, and therefore, there are countless types of energy to be projecting. If you are generating responses to certain beliefs associated with protection, as an example, you may be projecting an energy of defensiveness, which is opposing, which shall likely be reflected to you through other individuals in some type of opposing manner or some type of uncomfortable manner. It is important to recognize different expressions that you generate that create opposing energies. For in that, you discount yourself and you also can create harmful manifestations to yourself.
CARL: In Scientology, when you have two opposing forces, we call that a ridge. If you have one energy coming in one direction and energy coming from another direction and hit head-on, then you have a ridge. It stays in manifestation until it is viewed, at which time it becomes desensitized. I don’t know if that’s the right word.
ELIAS: I am understanding.
CARL: In my interpretation, the heel pain is a physical manifestation, or a ridge, being held in status by reason of the fact I’m just not acknowledging the two opposing forces or aware of it because I wasn’t paying attention to the stress factor.
ELIAS: In a manner of speaking. Also, remember, you create what you concentrate upon. Therefore, if you are concentrating your energy in association with that tension, you continue to create the manifestation.
CARL: You just opened another door for me, or a question. You get what you put your attention on?
ELIAS: Not necessarily. I did not express that. I expressed you create what you concentrate up on.
CARL: Concentrate. There’s a difference between concentrating and thought?
ELIAS: Yes. There is a difference between concentration and attention, and there is a difference between concentration and thought.
CARL: Because thought does not create the manifestation.
ELIAS: Correct.
CARL: Concentration or desire, or whatever, does.
ELIAS: Yes.
CARL: How do you tell the difference between those two on a day to day basis, like just a casual thought as opposed to...? My definition would be that it has to do with intention, what you really, really intend to do as opposed to just thinking about it.
ELIAS: Correct. But that also is influenced by beliefs.
CARL: Cool, so, ready to move on. The prostate cancer issue — when I started reading your transcripts and stopped taking this herbal medication because I thought that I could handle it by trying to resolve this on the creation side, then my numbers went back up in my blood test, which means that it’s starting to spread again, which means that I really didn’t have a handle on it because I was thinking about it rather than the concentration aspect. So I can’t just say I changed my mind now and now it’s going away. It didn’t because that was just part of the thought process rather than the concentration of that aspect.
ELIAS: Correct, and this is significant, my friend.
CARL: It’s the difference between making it go away or not.
ELIAS: Correct. But the significant element in this is associated with beliefs. You are correct. You may alter your thoughts considerably and that is not changing the manifestation, for thought does not create your reality. It merely translates what you are communicating to yourself. But if you are not paying attention to your communications, thought may not necessarily accurately translate. Therefore, you may not incorporate the clarity or the entirety of your communications in the translation of thought. You may be offering yourself merely partial translations.
What is significant in this situation is that you allow yourself to pay attention to what beliefs are influencing you and whether you are actually allowing yourself to be accepting and acknowledging of your beliefs or whether you are opposing them and attempting to eliminate them, for that generates the reverse of what you want.
Many individuals generate this idea that it is better or more spiritual or more enlightened to be altering physical manifestations without the incorporation of any interaction or cooperation of other individuals, that is it better to be cosmically altering physical manifestations yourself without incorporating any method. This is a significant misunderstanding and also generates significant potential for the individual to express disappointment and also discount themselves.
What you are not acknowledging is that within your physical reality almost all of your directions incorporate some form of method, for this is the manner in which you offer yourselves information. You generate processes. These processes are your individual method to accomplish a particular want.
In this, it is important to be aware of what your beliefs actually are and to recognize that it is entirely possible to incorporate an expressed belief and to disagree with it. You may incorporate the belief that physicians and medical practices are successful and that the physicians incorporate sufficient knowledge to be helpful in creating a favored outcome with a particular manifestation, but you also simultaneously may disagree with their methods — but that is not to say that you do not incorporate the belief. Therefore, that can create an opposition within yourself. This is the reason that is it important to genuinely be evaluating what beliefs you actually incorporate yourself as expressed beliefs and to recognize that whatever beliefs you have as expressed beliefs, each one incorporates many, many, many different influences. Therein is where your freedom lies, for you incorporate the freedom to choose which influences are more in keeping with your preferences, but that also requires being aware of what your preferences are.
In association with a dis-ease, you may become somewhat stuck in merely paying attention to one preference, that you prefer not to incorporate the dis-ease, but that is quite surface and is not addressing to all of the factors that influence you to be creating the dis-ease and the most efficient method for you individually to be addressing to the dis-ease and altering it.
Dis-ease is not a constant expression. It fluctuates. It fluctuates in association with attention, and it fluctuates in association with concentration. As you noticed with your heel, at times you are not experiencing discomfort, for you are not paying attention. You are distracting your attention. Pain requires attention. You do not experience or feel pain unless you are directing your attention to it.
CARL: William wanted me to ask your opinion on if Yarr’s machinery would be helpful for me.
ELIAS: Perhaps. It is dependent upon your openness and your willingness to cooperate.
CARL: (Humorously) Well, I’m very open and willing to cooperate — can’t you tell? (Elias laughs) It’s part of my nature. All right, I’ll go give him a call and go get it done. That should be fun.
ELIAS: It may be quite informative.
CARL: Before I forget, she wanted me to find out my essence name and family, orientation and that sort of stuff that I’m not real familiar with yet.
ELIAS: (Chuckles) Essence name, Shani, S-H-A-N-I (SHAW nee). Essence family, Sumari; alignment, Zuli; orientation, common.
CARL: Cool. I had another situation that I wanted to run by you that was rather an unusual experience for me. A couple of years ago, more like three, four years ago, I had this experience, and it happened on three or four different occasions. The first time, I was in a supermarket with big florescent lights overhead — I thought the light is what triggered the experience — and the other times it was in a similar environment, a warehouse or building with bright lights. One time it was when I was driving. I looked to my left and a car went by and the sun reflected off of a chrome piece and gave me a flash that triggered it.
What occurred is kind of hard to describe. The iris part of your eye is shaped like a donut, right? So as I’m looking out at the environment, the center of the donut, like where my pupil would be, I can see objects as I’m looking around. Then the outside the donut part — where I can also see, which would be like the iris, I’m assuming — is broken up into four sections, and each section has different shapes in it and different colors, sort of like a kaleidoscope, and they were moving. As I’m walking around I can see the physical universe, but there’s this picture right in front of my eyes with these little things moving. As I’m looking straight ahead or looking at objects, it moves with my eyeball. If I tried to put my attention on just those little objects in and of themselves, they move. I can’t look at them directly because they just keep moving. If I closed my eyes, I could still see it. It was like fluorescent. It seemed like there was a little hum, some kind of a vibration, at the same time. It took two, maybe two and a half hours, and it would finally go away. The last couple of times, the duration was shorter and shorter.
My interpretation at the time, because I didn’t know about imagery, I thought it had something to do with implants. I’ve noticed that in your transcripts, in reading your material, I haven’t heard any mention of implants. You just sort of not necessarily discount them, but sort of put them on the side because the direction you’re going is to increase awareness and bring you back to your natural abilities. So, there’s two questions there. One is what does that imagery tell you, and two, is it an implant or do you not acknowledge implants? I’m going to shut up now, because I can keep rolling on that coaster.
ELIAS: (Laughs) I do not deny the existence of different types of implants, as you term them to be. Is this experience that you are expressing associated with that type of action? No. Are you the victim of an implant? No.
CARL: Never!
ELIAS: (Laughs) But in actuality, what you have experienced is not unusual. There are many individuals that experience quite similarly, some more frequently, some more consistently, some less frequently or consistently. But what is actually occurring is a type of bleed-through, and it is actually not unusual.
CARL: The bleed-through is past life or past focuses?
ELIAS: Not this type of bleed-through. This type of bleed-through is associated with other focuses but other dimensional focuses.
CARL: I knew I was special!
ELIAS: (Laughs) What you are experiencing is a bleed-through of an other-dimensional focus, and you are partially allowing yourself to physically view or see in the manner that the other focus physically sees.
CARL: That would make me curious as to what the hell they were looking at that was like a kaleidoscope.
ELIAS: That is the manner of their vision.
CARL: And the vision could be slightly distorted or abstract?
ELIAS: Yes. Therefore, also in these types of bleed-through, it does not incorporate the entirety of your vision or block your vision, but it does incorporate a space in your vision. You cannot actually directly look at that vision for your eye is not designed to incorporate that type of vision. Your eye is different and does not allow for that type of vision that the other focus incorporates, but you can view it peripherally.
CARL: Which was occurring when I couldn’t directly look at it.
ELIAS: Correct.
CARL: It hasn’t happened since, and I assume it’s because I had the intention of not wanting it to reoccur.
ELIAS: Yes. Many individuals choose not to allow that type of bleed-through to continue, for many individuals generate a response to that type of action as annoying. Therefore, they do not continue to engage that action.
CARL: But if you wanted to...
ELIAS: Yes, you can.
CARL: ...you just have to relax and let it happen again?
ELIAS: Correct.
CARL: So my next area would be the out-of-body experience phenomenon. I’ve kind of been out before but not with full perception, just sort of a general, feeling good kind of a thing and not being able to... When I try to be three feet behind my head or whatever, I’ll get a sensation like a rubber band around my head, like a thickening, I guess it is, of the energy, which makes me feel like I’m trapped inside my head and I’m not allowed to move out. There’s a belief that the human body is surrounded by an electrical system which is designed to trap a focus, that if you’re within two or three feet of the head, there are electrical mechanisms that suck you back in. Is that B.S.?
ELIAS: (Chuckles) In your terms, yes. You do incorporate an energy field that does surround your physical body. It is projected outwardly from within your physical body. But it does not serve as a container, it is a projection outward of your energy, associated with your energy centers, and is an energy field that is the expression of you, but it is quite penetrable and flexible. It does not contain you.
You may move in and out of your physical body consciousness whenever you choose. It is a matter of projecting your awareness outside of your physical body consciousness. An element of your subjective awareness remains with the physical body consciousness to be continuing to direct the body consciousness, but you can project your objective awareness and generate actual physical experiences in other locations than where your physical body consciousness resides.
In this, what is important is to practice relaxing. For to be projecting and generate an awareness of projecting — for you do project often, but you are not objectively aware or you do not incorporate a memory of the projection — but to be projecting requires allowing yourself to defocus your attention temporarily. Your attention is what holds your objective awareness with the physical body consciousness. Therefore, if you defocus your attention and allow yourself a genuine relaxation, that allows the objective awareness to drift and therefore to move and not be so strongly associated with the physical body consciousness. There are different methods that you can incorporate to practice becoming familiar with projecting.
CARL: I’ve read a couple of your things on that. I just haven’t done them yet. (Elias laughs) I’ve been too busy getting stressed out!
ELIAS: Ah! That incorporates much time and effort! (Chuckles)
CARL: Yeah, I know. Something I’m fond of. We’re getting close to that time, so I think I’m just going to end here.
ELIAS: Very well.
CARL: The other questions I have will take too long, and basically I just wanted to ask you those couple of questions to give me something to think about and work on. William and I are coming out there for the October event.
ELIAS: Very well.
CARL: I just wanted to get a “hey, you!” in before I get there, to not be a stranger. (Elias laughs) Now I won’t be a stranger.
ELIAS: You are not a stranger, my friend. (Chuckles)
CARL: Another thing she wanted me to ask you was a couple of weeks ago, I was laying in bed reading transcripts. The fan was on in the room, and as I was reading this sentence, all of a sudden the fan slowed way down. We have electrical problems in California, anyway. Anyway, the fan slowed down in its RPM, and we looked at each other and then I read the sentence. The specific sentence had to do with electricity or energy, and she says, “You have to ask Elias about that one and see if he had something to do with that.”
ELIAS: (Chuckles) Yes.
CARL: Playful little person you are, aren’t you?
ELIAS: Quite! (Chuckles)
CARL: Okay, Elias, I’m done! Thank you for talking with me.
ELIAS: Very well. Remember, relax.
CARL: I thought that was my middle name, but lately, apparently, it’s not.
ELIAS: Ha ha! And perhaps incorporate more playfulness.
CARL: I’m definitely capable of that.
ELIAS: I shall be projecting my energy to you to remind you.
CARL: Cool, I’ll try to pay attention this time.
ELIAS: Very well!
CARL: Thanks, my friend.
ELIAS: I shall anticipate our next meeting.
CARL: So shall I.
ELIAS: To you, in friendship and appreciation, au revoir.
CARL: Okay, bye.
Elias departs after 50 minutes.
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