Session 1684
Translations: ES

Shoulder Pain, and Beliefs About Age and Healing


“Shoulder Pain, and Beliefs About Age and Healing”
“Employee Problems”
“Adolescent Conflict”

Tuesday, December 28, 2004 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Frank (Ulra)

(Elias’ arrival time is 15 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

FRANK: Good morning! Good to talk to you!

ELIAS: Ha ha! And you also!

FRANK: It’s been a while for me; I guess not for you. (Elias laughs) Happy holidays to you, also.

ELIAS: And you, the same.

FRANK: Thank you. I have a lot to talk about, so let me just dive in here. First off, normally we start off talking about dreams, but lately I’ve not been remembering any dreams. Any particular reason for that?

ELIAS: Concentrating your attention objectively more so recently.

FRANK: I kind of thought that was what you would say. I guess the first thing I want to ask you about is the last few times that we’ve talked, you talked about how this problem that I have with my elbow and my shoulder how all of this relates to my inability to relax regarding playing baseball. I continue to exhibit these problems, so I’m wondering if you could give me some more help. What do I need to do to relax? I’ve tried different things, and I don’t see a change in the physical side, so I assume it’s not happening. (Pause)

ELIAS: Perhaps incorporate the action of a tub. That may allow you to relax in a more obvious manner, which may allow you to pay attention to how you are not relaxing in other time frameworks. Are you understanding?

FRANK: Are you saying take a bath?

ELIAS: Yes, for in that action, it shall draw your attention to different areas of your physical body that you generally do not allow yourself to relax. Therefore, it shall be more obvious to you, and that shall be helpful in offering you information for other time frameworks, in which you may focus your attention in different manners to be relaxing more fully.

FRANK: I will do that, but if we could, could we just talk a little bit more about the basic issue? Essentially, it seems there are two ways that I’m putting pressure on myself. One is my own impatience for myself, and the other is my feeling about other people’s expectations on me. I think, if I recall correctly and interpret things correctly from what you said before, I think originally when I first started playing, it was based on my feeling about other people’s expectations, but now it’s more about my own expectations.

ELIAS: Correct, which also incorporates your beliefs concerning age, which we have discussed previously, and that as you age, your perception of your abilities is that they decrease or that they become more difficult to express. That increases your expectations of yourself, which that triggers an automatic response of pushing yourself and forcing your energy, which is the reason that I suggested that you practice relaxing. For that action interrupts that automatic response of forcing your energy, and it also allows you to relax your energy in association with the expectations that you incorporate with yourself. Many times incorporating a simple action that is different from what you are accustomed to doing is enough to interrupt certain patterns that have become so familiar to you that you do not notice that you are even incorporating them.

In this, as you allow yourself to recognize your beliefs concerning aging and allow yourself to appreciate yourself in that process, that may also alter your perception, which shall alter the symptoms that you create. For fighting or struggling against your own expressed beliefs generates manifestations that are essentially communications to you, expressing to you what you are doing. You are struggling in opposition to your beliefs. Therefore, you generate manifestations that are signals to alert you as to what you are actually doing. Struggling and forcing energy in opposition to your beliefs does not eliminate them, and generally speaking, shall create some manifestation or some type of imagery that is uncomfortable. The point is to recognize the beliefs that you incorporate, to acknowledge them and to choose different influences.

In this, the influence that you are choosing thus far is that of diminished capacity in physical expression. But if you are allowing yourself to relax and not struggle and force energy against the belief, which reinforces the influence that you have been choosing, you may move your attention in another direction and choose a different influence, such as, as you incorporate more age, you also express a greater knowledge of the game. You also incorporate a greater knowledge of skills and strategies and how the game may be played more efficiently, which offers you an influence that may be appreciated rather than forcing energy in opposition.

FRANK: I’m glad you mentioned that, because I was going to ask you what you meant about appreciating myself. But that does explain it pretty well. Of course, I can always choose to adopt a different belief.

ELIAS: You can, but let me clarify in this, for this is a point that is confusing to many individuals. Also, in like manner to other individuals, you incorporate a particular perception in association with changing beliefs that is somewhat of a misunderstanding and inaccurate.

Now; any individual can choose to be expressing different beliefs or what you may view as additional beliefs, but in that action, it is not to say that the beliefs that you already express disappear. They do not.

Many times, individuals think that they are choosing a different belief, for they begin to create different outcomes and their association with certain subjects becomes less frustrating or less concerning to them. Generally speaking, the individual has not necessarily generated the action of incorporating a different expressed belief. What they have done is they have chosen a different influence of the same belief. Therefore, they create different outcomes and a different perception, for they are choosing different influences.

As I have expressed many times, every belief that you incorporate incorporates in itself many, many, many influences. Therefore, you incorporate many choices. Therein is the expression of your freedom — the ability to choose influences of your beliefs that are more preferred and are more efficient in association with your direction. That is the significance of being aware of your beliefs and what the influences of them are, giving yourself the freedom to choose and not merely be expressing automatic responses, which are limiting.

FRANK: That’s very interesting. Would you say that when reality changes for most people, it’s more likely a change in the influence?

ELIAS: Yes, most definitely. For generally speaking, an individual would require — although it is not a rule, as always — but as I have stated, generally speaking, to be incorporating the action of changing a belief, or how you term it to be adopting another belief, or generating a latent belief into an expressed belief, would almost require the individual to incorporate such an extensive expansion of their objective awareness of themselves and of all of their beliefs and of all of the beliefs that are latent in order for them to choose a different belief that is not an expressed belief presently.

Now; at times, it does occur spontaneously, but situations such as that are quite infrequent and not common. Generally speaking, if an individual is altering their reality and creating different outcomes, and even in dramatic alterations of their perception and therefore their reality, they are choosing different influences of the same beliefs.

Now; this becomes confusing to many individuals, for that action also automatically reinforces the strength of your associations that you do eliminate beliefs, or that you, in your common vernacular, move beyond them for you have widened your awareness and enlightened yourselves. Therefore, what may have been a belief influencing you previously appears to you to no longer be influencing. Therefore, you view yourself to be beyond certain expressions, which is another manner of expressing that you are, or have, eliminated a particular belief, and as I continue to express to all of you, you are not eliminating any beliefs.

But you can manipulate much more freely in association with your beliefs by recognizing that they incorporate different influences and allowing yourself to choose an influence that is more in keeping with your preferences and that may be less conflicting or frustrating or limiting.

FRANK: In my case, does choosing a different influence mean that the original influence no longer applies?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, for whatever time framework you continue to choose different influences.

Now; that is not to say that you are eliminating the influence either, but what you are doing is you are neutralizing the belief. In neutralizing the belief, you recognize that the belief itself incorporates no strength. It is how you direct your attention in association with it that generates the strength of it. In that, as you allow yourself the freedom to choose different influences, yes, you create a dormancy of the previous influence. But you may also in some other time framework trigger that old familiar influence once again. You may or you may not, but it does occur and it is not unusual.

Especially within this time framework, more specifically of this previous year, this has been occurring quite frequently and quite commonly with individuals, for it is an action that is associated with addressing to truths and (is) a manner in which individuals are widening their awareness by triggering influences of beliefs that they think they are beyond, therefore presenting information to themselves through experience concerning how they are not eliminating beliefs.

This is the reason that it is important to be genuinely aware and acknowledging of the beliefs that you incorporate, for that allows you that freedom to continue to choose which influences you more prefer rather than slipping into the automatic responses, which may not necessarily be associated with your preferences.

FRANK: Let me ask you a related question. In line with what we talked about last time, I did go to the doctor. We did a few tests and found physical damage in my shoulder, so I decided to have surgery in a few weeks, of course, all the while thinking about everything you’ve said. It occurs to me, number 1, if I do this, that will fix that problem, but if I don’t learn to relax about the whole thing that something else will just pop up. Is that a fair assessment?

ELIAS: Not in the manner of the black and whiteness that you are thinking. Remember, you and I have discussed many times how interrelated all of your directions are, and that the incorporation of your game and the participation of playing your game also intertwines and is interrelated with your businesses, your relationships, your family and all of the directions that you incorporate. Therefore, it may not necessarily be as black and white as you are perceiving it to be presently.

Let me also express to you an acknowledgment, for in moving in a direction of not opposing your expressed beliefs, choosing to incorporate consultation with your physician and choosing to move in the direction of incorporating your surgery, you are generating a significant action of not opposing your beliefs.

Now; in the same manner that the opposition of a belief may generate many different manifestations — it may generate physical manifestations; it may generate expressional manifestations — there may be many different occurrences that are expressed in association with one direction of opposition. Are you following thus far?


ELIAS: In the same manner, one action of not opposing a belief and offering yourself permission to move in association with an expressed belief can generate that type of affectingness in many different directions also.

In this, the evaluation of your discussions with myself previously, the evaluation of your beliefs in association with physicians and different procedures that may be incorporated, and choosing to move in conjunction with your expressed belief that the physician incorporates the knowledge and the ability to fix the problem in your perception, that action creates a type of ripple effect also in all of the other areas or directions that you incorporate, and allows you more of an ease in movement. Therefore, what I am expressing to you is what you may term to be an advanced acknowledgment of you.

FRANK: Thank you.

ELIAS: For in moving in this direction, you are choosing an action and experience that shall be helpful to you in the direction of relaxing. Therefore, it is not, as I have stated, as black and white as you perceived the situation to be, generating the association that if you incorporate this action and generate this surgery, this shall fix the problem but (that) you shall merely generate another manifestation for you have not weeded out the actual problem. But that is not necessarily the situation, for you are addressing to your own truths, you are offering yourself information, you are evaluating, and you are choosing to incorporate an action of non-opposition.

In choosing the action of non-opposition and being aware that you are choosing the action of non-opposition, what you do in that action is reinforce a trust of your own ability to generate a favorable outcome in alignment with your preferences, recognizing that this is merely your method — but regardless of what you would do, it would be your method. In that action, as you reinforce your trust of yourself, you also are generating messages to allow you to relax more efficiently, for in the non-opposition of this expressed belief, you allow yourself to relax the opposition to other expressed beliefs.

FRANK: That’s interesting, and creates a segue into something else. Two other kind of significant things have happened. Number one, in terms of business, my business has just gone really, really well, with a lot of new revenue coming in in a very short period of time. The other thing that happened, which is interesting, is that I decided to lose some weight, which is kind of like not the first time, but basically it’s been really easy. I’ve been really successful at doing it. Is that all part of the same thing?

ELIAS: Yes. These are expressions of objective imagery that are evidences to you of the direction that you are moving in and that you have chosen. As you move in one direction and you incorporate certain actions, as we have discussed, that creates that ripple effect, and it influences other directions that you incorporate. As you begin to generate an ease in one direction, that filters into the other directions also.

FRANK: Let me stop you for a second here. The other thing that’s happened since we last talked is for maybe two, three, maybe four weeks, culminating about two weeks ago, I just didn’t feel good for about a month. I couldn’t sleep and I had other physical problems, and I’m just wondering, what was triggering all of that?

ELIAS: Let me express to you, this is not necessarily what you would term a trigger, but more so what may be viewed as a natural expression in association with a transition, moving from the familiar to the unfamiliar and moving into a significant experience of expanding your awareness and your understanding of yourself, of your movement, of what you create and of your reality in general.

In that, what occurs many times with many individuals, yourself also, is that as an individual begins to generate a movement of what we may figuratively express as a new or another emergence, there is a type of thickness that is generated temporarily, similar to the action of a birth. In that thickness, what you are doing is you are expanding your awareness, which also expands your actual physical manifestation. You expand your neurological pathways in your actual physical brain and you expand your sense sensitivity to incorporate more information, for you expand your capacity to understand objectively information. Therefore, in that process, you may experience a thickness, which may be experienced physically.

Some individuals may experience that in heaviness physically, some individuals may experience that in generating physical symptoms such as headaches and perhaps even muscle aches. Some individuals may experience it in heaviness, of being lethargic temporarily, but also generating experiences and movements that are interesting to them and are somewhat enlightening to them and incorporate some excitement. But the excitement is somewhat subdued, for it is somewhat clouded by the physical experience.

This is in actuality quite natural, for it is an actual type of emergence into an expanded awareness. Your physical body and its consciousness is an expression of you; therefore, it is not disconnected from you in these expansions and these emergences. Therefore, there is some element that is experienced with it also.

As I have stated, I am acknowledging of you, for you are moving into a significant emergence in expansion and in widening your awareness, incorporating a much clearer understanding objectively of what you create and how you create it, and of your beliefs, and are becoming much more clearly aware of different influences of your beliefs.

FRANK: This is emerging; it’s not there yet.


FRANK: Otherwise, my question is how come I’m not aware of it? (Laughing)

ELIAS: But you are, more so than you think! (Laughs)

FRANK: Other than those physical symptoms, when I look at what’s been happening, things do seem to be moving pretty smoothly and fast.


FRANK: As usual, things are moving faster and faster.

ELIAS: And you are generating a significant increase in the movement of your time, but many other individuals are generating quite similarly.

FRANK: I’m sure. In terms of my business really two questions, number one being we’ve seen this tremendous increase in our business, but that has brought problems to the surface regarding a lot of people who work for us, and has brought about the problem of finding good people to work for us to be able to handle all the things we are creating. Can you give me some insight into what’s going on there? What is this? What am I manifesting here? What’s really behind it?

ELIAS: Relax some of your rigidity in that direction. Rather than expressing the rigidity of being the employer and the boss, and rather than approaching the situation in the direction of expectations of abilities and performance, my suggestion to you is that you allow yourself to express your excitement and your appreciation of what has been created and of what you have generated with this business, and allow yourself to share that excitement and enthusiasm and appreciation with other individuals. In that action, you shall draw to yourself more efficiently the type of individuals that you prefer to be incorporating this employment.

FRANK: Have I started to do that a little bit?

ELIAS: Somewhat, but if you are expressing that and are more objectively aware of how you are directing your energy and that you are actually sharing with other individuals the presentment of your enthusiasm and excitement and appreciation, you shall attract other individuals that wish to share those expressions with you. Therefore, you shall attract individuals that you more prefer, rather than once again forcing energy in rigidness in relation to expectations.

FRANK: Got it. That makes sense.

Next, on my business, we’ve talked about this third partner that my actual partner and I want to bring in, and he’s been kind of working with us. We’re approaching a deadline by which he needs to produce certain things, and it’s kind of questionable to me whether or not he’ll get there. Can you give me any insight into this situation, what’s going on there with him, me, my other partner?

ELIAS: And what is your impression as to your direction and what you want?

FRANK: My direction?


FRANK: Well, I definitely want him involved. I’m not sure I want him involved on as big a scale as what I thought, although that has more to do with my judgment of him.

ELIAS: And also your preferences. Pay attention to this, for once again, it is not as black and white as you have been perceiving it to be. You may want to incorporate some interaction with this individual, but it may not necessarily be your preference to incorporate this individual in the capacity that you originally thought.

FRANK: So what I just said to you is an accurate interpretation.

ELIAS: Yes, and this is significant; pay attention. For it is an automatic expression to move into the black and white, and therefore deny yourself choices.

FRANK: In other words, right now I’m saying to myself I’ve got one choice, either he’s in or he’s out, but the other choice and the one that’s more in line with the way I’m thinking right now, he’s in but in a reduced...

ELIAS: Capacity, yes. Perhaps not to be incorporating as much interaction and responsibility as you had originally planned, so to speak, but this also is significant to pay attention to. For this is an element of your movement in not being as black and white, allowing yourself more flexibility and allowing yourself to recognize that you may incorporate a plan or a direction initially, and that may change and that is acceptable.

FRANK: Boy, and that’s a big change for me versus five, ten years ago.

ELIAS: I am aware.

FRANK: When I was much younger, I was very rigid.

Let me move on to some other things. Cardelete’s had a lot of problems at work, particularly with her boss. I’m just curious to know what’s going on there.

ELIAS: And what is your perception?

FRANK: She always sees herself as not being good enough, so she sees her boss as seeing her as not being good enough, no matter how good she does.

ELIAS: Correct, and what she expresses within herself is what she generates in reflection. If she is allowing herself to be aware of that and pay attention to how she discounts herself, and allows herself to move into an appreciation, perhaps a practicing of appreciation to reinforce her own perception of value of herself, she may be reflecting differently. But to this point, she is reflecting quite accurately her perception of herself, that she must try and try, but the trying is not quite good enough.

Trying is not accomplishing. Trying is essentially an excuse for being a victim. Trying is definitely a discounting of self, for it is an expression of not acknowledging your ability and not valuing your ability.

FRANK: But there’s not much I can really do here, I presume, or should do, I guess.

ELIAS: You may be supportive and in acceptance of her. You may be reinforcing a supportiveness to her. Dependent upon how you perceive that it may be received, I may offer you a suggestion for an exercise that you may offer to her.

FRANK: Okay.

ELIAS: You may express to her my suggestion that each time she notices herself hesitating in any manner and each time she notices herself “trying” in any expression, to offer herself an actual physical flower. I may express to you that if she actually incorporates this exercise in the time spent of perhaps one week, she shall incorporate quite a few flowers. In that, she may appreciate the flowers and the gift that she has given to herself, generating an expression of beauty from one that she views as not very beauteous.

FRANK: Well, I would say that could be a pretty difficult exercise to incorporate, at least not until spring. That’s a lot of flowers!

ELIAS: Ah, but the more challenging it is to incorporate actual accomplishment of this exercise, the more it shall be paid attention to.

FRANK: I can see myself suggesting the exercise, but I can’t see it ever being followed. (Elias laughs) That’s good information. So I’ll just leave it at that.

Sterling recently had some difficulty with some things. He was caught drinking by a policeman. I’m just curious if you can tell me why he created that.

ELIAS: And what is your impression?

FRANK: On the one hand, it’s no different than anything else that most of us did at that age. I think it’s sort of an expression of growth and independence and movement from being a child or an adolescent to being perceived as an adult. Maybe the fact that he got caught is sort of a warning of the dangers of this sort of activity.

ELIAS: And also an action of wanting to be accepted in association with peers in what he perceives to be a more adult, so to speak, manner, and incorporating an element of what he perceives to be strength also, in rebellion. More so...

FRANK: I guess not surprisingly, my wife was very upset about the whole thing. I was concerned, not all that upset, again having been through it and understanding it. One of the things that we’re struggling with is how to react to this. Can you give me any advice on that?

ELIAS: My suggestion is that you express an acceptance and cooperation, but that you also acknowledge your own preferences and your own directions, not to be compromising in your own expressions. Remember, acceptance does not require agreement. Therefore, my suggestion is that you generate an acceptance, but you also allow yourself to express your preferences.

FRANK: Interesting. But in terms of acceptance, on the one hand, I understand what you’re saying and I totally understand. But on the other hand, just accepting this, something that could be physically very dangerous, is something that’s difficult to do.

ELIAS: I am understanding, but that is associated with your truths and your preferences. That is what I am expressing to you, that you may recognize that another individual may generate choices and experiences and behaviors that are different. You may accept the difference and also express your preferences, therefore not acquiescing or compromising but not discounting the individual, not expressing your preferences as absolutes, acknowledging that you are aware that other individuals create their reality and incorporate their choices. You may not necessarily agree with their choices, but you are participating with them in interaction. Therefore, you generate a cooperation with the individual but continue to express your preferences.

FRANK: To him, directly.


FRANK: One last question. This is pretty much the same thing that applies to his selection of where he will go to college. He’s got one place he wants to go, and I don’t think it’s a good idea. I guess the same thing applies there.

ELIAS: Yes, and in both situations, do not express expectations. Remember, the other individual is creating his reality. You are not creating it for him, and his choices are his choices.

FRANK: Now, all the while, while this is going on, I’ve got my wife who is trying to put her own preferences on top of him, and that creates another layer of difficulty in the situation.

ELIAS: I am aware, and in that, you may view this as an example of how you easily generate conflict and tension and not necessarily what you want as you generate expectations. For as the individual expresses the expectation of another individual, that energy is received and automatically recognized as a discounting and a threat. Therefore, there is an automatic push in response, an automatic rejection of that energy in response. You may view quite clearly, as you have been in this situation, that it does not accomplish what you want, does it?

FRANK: No, absolutely not.

ELIAS: Therefore, perhaps it may be interesting to experiment with a different action! (Laughs)

FRANK: I feel like a spectator at a ballgame sometimes watching this interaction.

ELIAS: Ah, but that is the interaction that THEY are creating.

FRANK: Right, it’s not my issue. Well, thank you, as always. It’s been tremendously enlightening. It was fun.

ELIAS: You are welcome. I shall be anticipating our next discussion and the developments that occur. (Laughs)

FRANK: I’ll keep you informed.

ELIAS: Ah, very well. I express to you, as always, my friend, my affection, MY appreciation and an incorporation of playful energy. (Chuckles)

FRANK: Well, good. I’ll look forward to it.

ELIAS: Very well. In great fondness, au revoir.

Elias departs after 1 hour, 8 minutes.

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