Sunday, December 8, 1996 ©
Participants: Mary (Michael), Vicki (Lawrence), Ron (Olivia), Cathy (Shynla), Jene (Rudy), Gail (William), Julie (Lanyah), Christy (Maka), Norm (Stephen), Reta (Dehl), Cecelia (Sari), Tom (James), and two new participants, Sue (Bernard), and Bob (Simon).
Note: For newer readers of these transcripts, it may be helpful if you are aware of Elias designations of color and intent with each family. They are as follows: Milumet, Watchers, red; Gramada, Formers, orange; Vold, Hearers, yellow; Ilda, Tellers, green; Sumari, Speakers, blue; Tumold, Readers, indigo; Zuli, Imagers, purple; Borledim, Bearers, pink; and Sumafi, Seers, black.
Elias arrives at 6:50 PM. (Time was twenty seconds)
ELIAS: Good evening! Welcome to new essences. (Smiling)
This evening, we shall continue with our subject matter of counterparts. We shall be discussing counterparts in relation to essence families. (Here, Cathy starts laughing, and Elias stops and stares at her, grinning) I am so pleased I am so amusing already! (Much laughter) We may be playful also this evening!
I was instructing you to be looking to your game throughout this past present week. So! I shall inquire of you if you hold ideas of counterpart action within these essence families. Let us examine your intuition!
JULIE: Are we connecting the families that are counterparts of each other?
JULIE: Green and blue.
ELIAS: Very good. This would be one counterpart action, of Ilda and Sumari.
VICKI: Vold and Tumold.
ELIAS: Very good. This would be another counterpart action.
CATHY: Milumet and Zuli.
ELIAS: Quite correct.
JULIE: Rose and Sumafi? (Rose being indicative of Borledim)
JULIE: It was a guess!
GAIL: How about Rose and Vold?
JENE: Rose and Milumet.
CELIA: Violet and indigo.
VICKI: I think that the Borledim family may be counterpart to the Gramada family.
JULIE: Indigo and Rose.
CATHY: Zuli and Rose.
CHRIS: The process of elimination! (Elias starts chuckling)
VICKI: No counterpart action with the Borledim family?
ELIAS: Your Borledim family holds counterpart action to all of the essence families. (Big "Oh!" here) The Gramada is counterpart to Sumafi. But you have done quite well in listening to your intuition and examining your game, creating your connections of the counterpart action. Therefore, I deduce you are doing your homework! (Grinning)
Each physical reality holds their own equivalent of essence families. Some realities may have fewer essence families; some may have the same number of essence families. These families, as we have discussed previously, are related directly to the individual physical realities. Just as you together in a group would cooperate and volunteer to exercise your individual talents and your individual contributions if you were to be planning and creating a town or a city, these essence families also cooperate in creating this reality. This is voluntary action. Groups of essences choose individual physical realities to align with and be creating of.
We have spoken little of your essence families to this point. We will offer an introduction to the action of the essence families this evening. You already possess a base with the Sumafi. Each of the essence families that are within your game are directly involved with this particular physical reality and dimension.
We shall use wording within time frames, as this is also incorporated within your reality and your understanding. Therefore, I shall express that within the time "before your beginning", the essence families were, as were you.
I shall state to you this evening another boat-rocking concept, in that there was no original god. There is no god, per se. There is what we have discussed previously as The Creating Universal One And Whole, which is named many different names by different essences and by different focuses. This term, as I have stated previously, is an action. This is not a being. In this, I wish you to understand that this action is all of consciousness. It is everything.
You have been familiarized with the term All That Is. This also is correct in terminology, as to consciousness. There is no singularity of consciousness that may be separated out to be designated as god. Therefore, god did not create your planet, or you. You created you, and you also created your planet and your universe. If you wish to place the terminology of god upon any separate entity, you may apply this term to yourselves, for you are!
Returning to our essence families: Before what you recognize as your beginning, you were within consciousness, and aligned with the different essence families. The action of creating of this physical reality came from these nine essence families, within cooperation. Their intents during this experimental time period were different than you perceive them to be presently, for their reality was different than your reality is presently. Presently, you are physically focused. You are focused. Underline focused! You are highly specialized, and you are singularly directed.
Within the original, so to speak, action of these essence families, they were not so specialized. They were not so singularly focused. These, as we have stated previously, would be likened to Dream Walkers. You may identify with this terminology, for you understand the action of dreaming. The action of dreaming, or similar to this action, would have been the entirety of the reality of all of these families.
In this reality, there was less separation. Therefore, there was more knowing of the action of counterparts of self, of consciousness. In this, the concept of you creating your reality was reality. It was not a concept. In this, the actions that you view presently as the intent of these essence families was unnecessary. Let us view some of your essence families.
Milumet; presently, this essence family is designated as spiritualists. You have been offered a description of the basis of your present interpretation of this family. I have offered you also the word signifying Milumet, which is Watchers. This may seem inconsistent. What shall they be watching? Presently, Milumet watches within a different action. They watch your world, your species, and they hold to your present understanding of spirituality.
This is not to express a religion, for within the consciousness of the mass presently, you all hold a very similar definition of spirituality regardless of your civilization. You may be civilized, as you think of yourselves, within developed countries, or you may be tribal peoples within small areas in jungles; but within this present now, the consciousness conceives of spirituality in a certain direction.
"Before the beginning", spirituality in this respect was unnecessary, for essence was known. Therefore, as experimentation was produced within objectifying physical focus, the Watchers, the Milumet, were those that were reminding of essence. They were watchful of all of the families, of all of the experiments within physical focus, and offering of knowledge and information to be connecting with essence; a continuation of communication between focus and essence; a continuation of understanding of consciousness.
Presently, those belonging to this essence family hold a similar action, but modified; for the interpretation has changed from essence to a supreme being. All cultures throughout your globe hold the belief system of an "other"; a supreme being; a god. This is an interpretation, which has been modified throughout the centuries, of what became [of] the concept of essence; for as you moved into physical focus, focused, as you chose the type of experiment within physical focus that you desired to continue, you moved away from memory. In moving away from your memory, you chose to be forgetful of essence, but within you, you continue to hold knowings; small urgings. These are what create your questions, for there are elements within you that you know, but you cannot remember.
Therefore, you ask questions; and when you ask questions, you offer yourselves answers; and within these answers, within your time periods, you take truths, such as essence, that you have forgotten, and translate them into gods; just as you translate your dream activity into physical objectivity.
This family of Milumet is counterpart to Zuli. Many of you who have played our game are familiar with the counterpart action of these families. You have been aware of the connections for a time period, this being for you your most obvious connecting families. Zuli focused upon physical manifestation. Within your present time period, this is translated into the perfection of physical body; athletes, dancers, individuals that in your terms are prideful of physical form, that view the aesthetic beauty of the physical body. Within the Zuli family "before the beginning", the intent was the creation of physical form. Many experiments were accomplished, within ages of your planet, in creating physical forms; the Imagers. They have created many images. Not all look as you do. Many looked quite different throughout your ages.
I have expressed briefly previously that you have experimented with many different types of forms. You have created your creatures also; but as nature, as you term it, and yourselves are one and are not separate, it was not inconsistent to combine different elements and imagination in imaging and creating of forms quite unlike your own. Many of these forms which were created were highly efficient within their time period, but as the Imagers continued with experimentation of form, and within cooperation and agreement with the other essence families, you have agreed upon this form, choosing this as what you view presently to be the most efficient.
Within the action of counterpart, the Milumet provides the subjective and the Zuli provides the objective. These two essence families you may view to be comparable, within your present time period, to those of you in the counterpart action of opposites. "Before the beginning", these were not opposite and were not repelling to each other. Within your present time period, those counterparts that are opposite to you, as we have stated previously, you will repel. They add to your experience within physical focus, but you choose to not be engaged with them. They provide what you think of as the extreme, in focus, to yourself; just as within your thinking presently, the spiritual and the physical appear to be the extremes; the opposites.
The counterpart action within the other essence families are different. They are not opposites. Within the Ilda and Sumari, they are quite close, in your terms. They offer each other complementary actions. These counterparts would be likened to those of you that are aware of counterparts; those of you that know and interact with other counterparts. You are compatible. You offer additional information to each other. You offer helpfulness to each other. You may be interacting with little conflict. These essence families are very close within their action. They also bear words that are symbolic of this; Speakers and Tellers. Both families are communicative, but within different actions. "Before the beginning", these two families were those that created social interaction. Within physical focus, [within] physical manifestations and these experimentations of physical manifestations, within your consciousness, as you forgot essence, you also forgot intersection with each other. Therefore, the action of these two families is to be creating communication and social activity. Within your present now, the Ilda family serves to be continuing in communication. The Sumari serves to be communicating, but within what you may term to be "agitating" of your societies. This word of agitation, I do not use in what you may view to be a negative terminology. It is used to be meaning a "pushing and mixing" of individuals and ideas. Presently, within your now, the Sumari are not quite as social as originally, but their interaction within society continues. They are very focused within social action, although they may not be social individuals. As contrary with Ilda, within the counterpart action, presently these individuals care little of social action, but are quite communicative; therefore are complementary with the Sumari. One may choose involvement with government, and another may choose to speak about government. One may choose to be carrying a cause. The other will be choosing to be communicating the cause, to be furthering it.
Within the time of "before the beginning", (grinning) there were no causes, so to speak, but there were establishments of societies; interactions and establishments of what you may view to be government. Government does not necessarily hold the meaning of what you view within your present day. Very primitive individuals also held what you may term as government within their societies, although you may not recognize their government! There was social order.
Please understand that we are not speaking of cave men! "Before the beginning" was not what your archeologists have uncovered within artifacts of ape-like humans, in their terms. "Before the beginning", these essence families were not completely manifest. Therefore, you may think of them as light bodies or astral bodies or translucent bodies, fading in and out. You blink in and out, as we have stated, but you are unaware, within your objective consciousness, of this action. They were aware. This was physically visible. (Pause)
I shall break, and we shall continue.
CELIA: Will we have questions after?
ELIAS: You may ask your questions when we return.
CELIA: Thank you.
ELIAS: You are welcome, Sari.
TOM: I would like to say hello monseigneur, master, captain!
ELIAS: Captain, my captain! (Grinning, and laughter)
BREAK 7:38 PM RESUME 7:59 PM (Time was one second)
ELIAS: Continuing; before we engage your questions for this evening, I shall be adding to this initial information in regards to these essence families. Let us examine Zuli as an example. Within your present now, you identify these essence families and those aligned with them as individuals. You identify groups of individuals specifically oriented to individual essence families. "Before the beginning", there were no such designations. There were no lines, so to speak.
We have spoken of the experimentation of manifestations within physical focus, and different forms that were experimented with. In this, I shall express to you, Zuli is the family that is concerned with physical form. Therefore, each family, within their own choice of experimentation, also joined in cooperation with Zuli for manifestation of form.
The actions "before the beginning" you may liken to many artists cooperating, each adding their individual talents to create the whole. Therefore, instead of the designation of physical attributes or abilities or focusing upon physical body, as individuals within the Zuli family presently, "before the beginning" the Zuli family was interested in the creation of physical form; not just this physical form that you recognize presently, but all of the physical forms that were experimented with. In like manner, we may look to the Milumet family, and you may see that they provide the connection of essence regardless of the manifestation.
Therefore, I explain to you that what you recognize presently as divisions were not thus "before the beginning". As you individually identify with each of the essence families within certain elements of your being, each of the essence families served artistically to be creating of the physical manifestations, in agreement, that you now hold. Is this clear? (Pause)
CELIA: Will you please repeat just the last part that you just said?
ELIAS: Identify what you are unclear with.
CELIA: That we are the manifestation of what was previously known as, and is known now as, those essence families.
ELIAS: The form that you recognize now, your physical body, has been agreed upon and created in cooperation of all of the essence families. Therefore, as you look to your game and attempt to align yourselves with an individual essence family, you also recognize certain elements of all of the essence families within you. You align with one within an individual focus, but you hold elements of all of the essence families, for there are no divisions. You look to the essence families within a different interpretation presently than was "before the beginning".
VICKI: So are you saying that before the beginning, the intents were shared, so to speak?
ELIAS: Not in the manner that you may understand. The intents are individual to the families, but the action of the intents are shared amongst all of the families; not intertwining, but intersecting.
Think of a sculpture. You may create the sculpture alone. You, I shall say, are Sumafi. You may create a Sumafi sculpture. It shall hold only Sumafi elements. "Before the beginning", you create an element of the sculpture. Another essence family adds another element. Another essence family adds another element, and so on, until within cooperation and agreement, the creation is accomplished. In this, there is all of the elements within the one manifestation of all of the families equally. Within your present now, you identify elements of all of the essence families within you not equally. You align with one; this being part of the action of separation.
I am offering this evening the beginnings of information of "before the beginning" of your essence families originally, in your terms. The importance of this information is that it is relevant to your shift, for as you move within consciousness, you move into more of an alignment with the families in the action of "before the beginning"; this being what I have expressed to you many times in saying the Seers are past, but they are future and they are present, as are also all of the essence families.
I have expressed to you within terms of time elements this evening, and will continue to do so throughout our discussion of the essence families and their counterpart action, for your understanding. Do not lose sight that these are physical terms; for all of these actions, including also "before the beginning", is now. It was not. It occurs presently. (To Ron) You may ask your question!
RON: Is the number of Source Events equal to the number of essence families?
ELIAS: No. Source Events may be numberless. This is dependent upon your own mass creations, your own desires, and your own direction. You may be creating many, or you may be creating few.
RON: It just seems that Source Events are so big. They encompass a lot of different things. It doesnt seem like there could be that many of them.
ELIAS: Although within simultaneous time, or no time, you may create as many Source Events jointly as you create imagination. You continue presently to experiment with imagination within physical manifestation. You look to your planet, you look to your species, and you view yourselves to be very old. You are but a twinkling! (Smiling) But, you are not, for you hold no time, although you create time. This world that you view has been created and not created many times. Therefore, it holds many Source Events; for just as you blink in and out, so does your planet also.
VICKI: Is the action of creating the city similar, within what you were talking about, to the action of creating this physical focus?
ELIAS: Within the action of the shift, and the desire and intent of the shift, yes. You are contributing to the creation of a different consciousness.
VICKI: And all of the families will be contributing elements within that creation?
NORM: In the shift, will our bodies and the chemistry of our bodies change at all? As for example, evidently Christ could not take only one body, but took three bodies because of the power that he held. Is that going to be the case? Are we going to change chemistry?
ELIAS: This action of which you speak, you are correct, but this is not relevant to your shift. This action has been repeated within the essence of Rose, which has created nine physical manifestations presently upon your planet, which is relative to your shift. This also, as we move into discussion of Borledim, shall be discussed, for this action is significant.
As to changing within your physical manifestation or body, no. You shall continue within your manifestation of physical body. You have created, within cooperation and agreement, a highly efficient body. Therefore, it is unnecessary to be altering of this. This is not to say that within what you view to be future you may choose to alter physical form once again, although this is a probability, and also is occurring presently! (Grinning at Norm) Do not misunderstand. Your shift will not be producing angelic bodies and all-knowing psyches!
ELIAS: You shall produce a much expanded understanding and knowing of self, of essence, of probabilities, of reality; and you shall possess a remembrance of self. Therefore, many of your questions shall be answered, and you shall hold the ability to move forward, in your terms, much more creatively. You move efficiently presently. You will move efficiently within your shift. You shall allow yourself, within physical manifestation, more creativity. (Long pause) Very well! We shall on to our game!
CHRIS: Mythical creatures, vampires, with green.
ELIAS: (Chuckling) Acceptable! We shall be placing ghouls and goblins and extraterrestrials all within this family! (Grinning)
CHRIS: Physical pleasures, sleeping, with red.
ELIAS: One point.
CHRIS: Political leaders, Sitting Bull, red.
CHRIS: Songs, The Last Resort, with red.
ELIAS: Less probable.
CATHY: Personality expression, Zuli, willful.
ELIAS: One point.
CATHY: Connecting essences, cultures, aborigine, Zuli and Milumet.
ELIAS: One point.
CATHY: Personality expressions, Rose, caring.
ELIAS: This would be an expression of all of the essences.
CATHY: Animals, red, meerkat.
CATHY: Movies, Ilda, Close Encounters Of The Third Kind.
ELIAS: Acceptable. (Whispering in Vickis ear) Extraterrestrials!
RETA: I have one. Milumet, my oldest daughter Susan.
RETA: Aligned with Sumari?
ELIAS: No, aligned with Milumet.
RETA: But of another family.
RETA: Not Sumari.
ELIAS: No. Very good!
RETA: I have a question on the Zuli and the body and they wanted to create the form ...
ELIAS: Shall you hold on your question ...
RETA: Till after the game?
RETA: Thank you.
ELIAS: Thank you!
BOB: I have a feeling about one. The direction west with Sumafi, blue. (Here, Bob got Sumafi and Sumari mixed up)
ELIAS: Sumari. Acceptable. (Based on the correct color)
VICKI: Personality expressions, with the Vold family, resistant.
ELIAS: One point.
VICKI: Artists, with Ilda, Vincent Van Gogh.
VICKI: Fables, the Borledim family, The Ant And The Grasshopper.
ELIAS: One point.
VICKI: Childrens stories, with Sumafi, Pinnochio.
ELIAS: (Grinning) Very good, Lawrence! One point.
VICKI: For Michael; political persuasions, Sumari, the Socialists.
VICKI: Architecture, with Gramada, The Empire State Building.
VICKI: Sumari, childrens stories, Alice In Wonderland.
ELIAS: One point.
VICKI: And childrens stories, with the Vold family, The Lion, The Witch, And The Wardrobe.
RON: Rose, books, The Grapes Of Wrath.
RON: Rose, natural disasters, avalanche.
ELIAS: One point.
RON: Orange, physical pleasures, introspection.
ELIAS: One point.
RON: And orange, with titles as concepts, this could be the start of something big! (Laughter)
ELIAS: (Grinning) One point!
JENE: I have one. Sayings, Rose, A heart as big as all outdoors.
ELIAS: Identify your category.
JENE: Great! Physical expression.
ELIAS: Less probable.
JENE: It would be clichés or quotes.
ELIAS: You must choose!
JENE: A heart as big as all outdoors.
ELIAS: With which ...
ELIAS: Acceptable! (Laughter)
GAIL: The babys name, with Sumari, the one with Lee, is it Thomas Lee?
ELIAS: Less probable. (To Jene) I shall be moving you, Rudy, into alignment with our game ... little by little! (To Reta) You may ask.
RETA: I was thinking about the Zuli and the imagery, and of course they helped to create the body form. Specifically, Im thinking about those people who really worry about the body form and try to be good at the body form, and yet seem to have all kinds of problems with it. Is their alignment incorrect, or are they focused incorrectly? I have a hard time with that, when theyre so intent on having a nice body, and yet either their immune system or their weak bones or whatever fights with them all the time on it.
ELIAS: This would not be an alignment with this particular family. This would be a choice of manifestation, and the individual would be aligned with another essence family. Within the alignment of Zuli, the connections of the Zuli family will be manifesting physical excellence. These individuals shall excel in athletics or physical expressions. They may also appear, as you would determine, to be the Adonis of your species. They may not appear physically beautiful, but they may exhibit extraordinary capabilities physically. It is dependent upon their desire within their focus, but all of these individuals of the Zuli family will be manifesting with the intent of physical excellence. Therefore, they shall not be individuals manifesting contrary.
RETA: Okay, that was the question. For instance, I know at least three people who were Adonises, were great in athletics, and then midway in their life something happened to cut it all off, and they have no ability or very little ability left. So maybe that was their choice, and I was having a little problem with that.
ELIAS: This is also a choice. An individual may choose, within their focus individually, to be changing their activity, but this is not in conflict with their alignment with this family; for they may be expressing physical disability after, so to speak, great physical ability, for reasonings of expression within your mass belief systems and consciousness. Just as within the mass, individuals may choose together to be creating of certain actions to be making a statement, individuals may also create this same type of choosing.
RETA: For instance, in the theater world we have Steve Reeves, is it Steve Reeves? Christopher Reeves that did that, and I had two people out where I live that were actually in the athletics and very, very good, and then either were paralyzed or whatever. That has to be their choice?
ELIAS: This is their choice. Now; understand, these individuals may choose this type of action to be offering to other individuals objectively, but they may also choose this type of action to be offering information to themselves. It is an individual choice.
RETA: To get attention for themselves, or maybe to get attention for the mass?
ELIAS: No. I am not expressing to be gaining attention in the respect that you refer to. I express that the individual may choose to be making a statement to the mass consciousness, or the individual may not be choosing to be making a statement. They may choose a disability, in your terms, for their own noticing, for their own information.
RETA: For this particular experience?
VICKI: I have a question. Would belonging to an essence family have more influence than your alignment, say within creation of a physical expression within the Zuli family?
ELIAS: In what you would term to be overall, or within essence, the essence family that you designate that you belong to, within your understanding, would seem to be stronger. Within the individual focus, they may be, in intensity, the same. They may not be the same, but they may be the same.
Focuses choose alignments with families. These alignments are not necessarily the same family as that which you belong to within essence and its entirety. In this, within the individual focus the alignment is quite strong. Therefore, within your expression, you shall express in accordance with the essence family that you align with, for this is your leaning within this particular focus; although underlying, constant, is your allegiance to your essence family overall, that you are belonging to within essence. Therefore, it also is quite influencing, which you may observe within yourself quite easily. You express quite naturally in alignment with the Ilda family, being quite communicative, but within your persistence of least distortion and your pursuit of excellence within all activity, you display the underlying Sumafi.
NORM: After the shift, will we be able to experience the blinking? Will that be part of it?
ELIAS: If you choose, although I will express to you that you generally, within what you will term to be your normal state, will continue to be unaware; but you may experience this blinking in and out intentionally, just as presently you experience what you term to be altered states.
TOM: I have a question about that. As to blinking in and out, they did it in Peru with mind-altering drugs, did they not? Soma? Cactus?
ELIAS: This is not the same action. This is what you may term as an altered state. The action of recognizing blinking in and out is an awareness, that you will allow yourselves the ability to view and be aware of how you create time. In this, you may allow yourself the opportunity to view yourself blinking in and out. In this action, you will understand what you term to be the mechanics of your objective consciousness, and allow yourselves the ability to manipulate your objective consciousness.
TOM: Could you use it as a stepping stone to your awareness?
ELIAS: It shall be quite a stepping stone to transition, for those within the shift.
TOM: Thank you. Good to see you, by the way.
NORM: I had read the statement that electrons determine our time, and direction of time. Is that a true statement?
ELIAS: Partially true. In reality, you within consciousness determine this action, but I may also express that you within consciousness use many elements to be accomplishing of desired effects, just as you choose to arrange energy within consciousness to create matter. In this same manner, you direct the consciousness of certain elements such as physical electrons, to be creating of certain actions such as time elements.
NORM: Either the last time or two weeks ago, you made the statement that the shift has already occurred in Region 2. Can you as an essence see Region 2, and actually see the probabilities forming?
ELIAS: (Grinning) I can ...
NORM: Well, thats nice! Id love to do that! (Much laughter)
ELIAS: ... and you can also!
RETA: Its just your belief systems! (Laughing)
ELIAS: Quite right!
RETA: Take the steps to broadening your awareness so you can!
ELIAS: As you widen your awareness, you shall accomplish.
TOM: Elias, are there any basic steps, besides the sapling, for any of us in here to be able to see Regional Area 2 and remember it? Basic steps that we can ...
ELIAS: Begin with your dream state!
TOM: You know me and my dream state! Thats why Im talking about mind-altering drugs! (Much laughter)
ELIAS: I shall express to you James, that you may engage in what you term to be mind-altering drugs, and you shall not understand what you encounter any more than you understand your dream, for you automatically translate. Therefore, follow these twins and the mission, once again! I emphasize that you are, so to speak, upon the brink. Therefore, be patient and continue in your endeavor.
TOM: Thank you, captain.
ELIAS: You are welcome. You may express to Michael also, if he is bothering to formulate his questions, I shall be offering helpfulness and information as to this mission.
VICKI: It has something to do with that ring that the milk leaves in the glass, huh! (Elias starts laughing, and we all crack up)
CATHY: What exactly is a dream trigger?
ELIAS: A dream trigger; this is a term that you have invented to be designating of what you might term as your dream window. Each of you holds symbols that you identify with within your objective knowing. This is identified with also subjectively. Within your dream state, in many actions you intersect objectively and subjectively with a particular symbol. If you are noticing and paying attention to your dream activity, you may identify these dream triggers, these symbols that are meaningful to you, for they are intersections of objective and subjective consciousness. At this intersection point, you may transcend objective.
CATHY: Does everybody have more than one?
TOM: Is it like an alphabet? Hypothetically, its symbols like an alphabet, and we have so many symbols that we do recognize?
ELIAS: In a manner of speaking.
TOM: Our own tribal symbols?
ELIAS: Each individual holds their own symbols. These will be symbols that are easily identified, objects that you are very familiar with; objects, or motions, or ... emotions that you understand within your waking state objectively, and you also use for translation within your subjective and dreaming state.
NORM: Thursday night I had a dream that my wife and I were dancing on the floor, and we slowly moved up to about three feet off the floor, and then I became aware that we were dancing three feet off the floor and decided to try to figure out how to get back to the floor, and I was thinking about creating some steps, and then I guess I finally figured out that I could just dance back to the floor. But I guess that has several meanings, in that I am starting to believe that I can create different realities. I think there was some emotion in that in regard to trying to show other people that reality is different than maybe normally perceived. Am I on track with that?
ELIAS: Are you wishing to adjust your equipment? (Referring to Norms tape recorder)
NORM: (Completely confused for a moment) Oh, yes! (Laughter)
ELIAS: Now I shall offer you, you are not offering information to others. You are offering a valuable element of information to yourself; that it is unnecessary for you to hold a method or steps to accomplish your desire. You desire to be on your floor dancing, and you realize that you may create this effortlessly by doing. You need not steps or inventions or methods to accomplish. This is one layer of dream interpretation.
TOM: Back to symbols real quick. As in James, James is a name for now. That isnt really my essence name. Is it a symbol?
ELIAS: You are correct, for this is a translation into your language. Therefore, it is relevant to physical focus.
TOM: The name of James.
ELIAS: Correct, for it holds the tone of your essence; but within non-physical, the name of James is irrelevant, for it is not a name. It is a tone.
CATHY: Am I correct in identifying my dream triggers as dogs and horses?
ELIAS: I express to you Shynla, experiment! Approach your trigger. If your trigger is correct, you shall notice an immediate action. As you approach your trigger and merge to your trigger, you shall engage subjectivity.
GAIL: Was my experience with an old abandoned house with no windows and birds near by my trigger?
ELIAS: I express the same to William. You shall find your own triggers. It is meaningless that I express your trigger to you, for the knowledge alone allows you to accomplish nothing. The action of awareness within your dream state, of identification of this trigger and mergence with it, is what will allow you to accomplish. I may express to you, your trigger is a rock. You may dream of a thousand rocks, and you may not engage a rock! You must be aware of the rock, and approach, and merge. It is an action.
TOM: As in symbols, if I went to the piano, and as an alignment, the musical notes, would they be in alignment with symbols?
ELIAS: They are also symbols.
TOM: The musical notes are also symbols, as in "James"?
RON: Can I adjust my equipment real quick? (Tape change)
ELIAS: Musical notes are not the same as tone within essence, although they may be symbolized in the same manner as the word of James, if you are understanding. You may symbolize the tone by a word or with sound of musical notes if you are choosing, or you may symbolize the tone through color. The tone is none of these. These would each be symbols of the tone that is the identification of the personality of essence.
TOM: Thank you. (Pause) So, how have you been, Elias?
ELIAS: I am within the present now, as always within the present now, perfect! (Grinning, and much laughter)
VICKI: I have a question for Uriel. His question is about an experience he had as a child, in which he viewed a figure in the middle of the night, next to his bed, which disappeared. He found out later that his two brothers had the same experience in different time frames, but within the same bedroom and with the same-appearing figure, and hes curious if you have any information to offer about that experience. (Hope I got this right, Bruce. Going from memory)
ELIAS: (Accessing for quite a while) This would be what you would classify as an apparition; a manifestation, partial physical, of essence. This would be ... (Pause) This is an essence within ancestry of physical focus. Therefore, you may also identify this as another focus, for ancestry denotes time past. Therefore, you physically may view this as an appearance in supportiveness of an ancestor of these individuals, but within simultaneous time and before fragmentation, so to speak, this would be a common focus.
VICKI: So, are you saying that Bruce and his two brothers are fragmented of the same essence?
ELIAS: In a manner of speaking. Each essence contains all of the fragmenting essence, and the fragmenting essence before that, so to speak; although there is no before! In this respect, yes; they are fragmented of the same. In your terms of one fragmented into three, no; they are not. (Now Im really confused!)
NORM: When she asked you the question, you closed your eyes and took some deep breaths and slowly came up with the answer. Could you describe how you did that?
ELIAS: This is an allowance of information. What you view is an exchange of energy. In this exchange of energy, the personality focus of Elias appears to you. Translations are accomplished within this exchange. Within certain requests of certain information, an opening is allowed, therefore funneling in information which is not as readily accessed.
Different information is occupying different areas of consciousness. Just as you within essence focus your essence into many different focuses, in this same type of manner, within essence I focus attention in many different areas. While directing energy exchange within this area, there is a concentration of specific energy; a focus of energy which is directed to be exchanged with you. In this, just as you within a focus are concentrated on that focus for that time period, within this exchange I concentrate an energy focus. Therefore, other information must be accessed, or openings must be allowed, to filter in some information. It is necessary to be directing of energy within the thickness of the time element.
Much in concentration is involved in this type of energy exchange. Much that you do not understand, in what you may term as mechanics, operate within the accomplishment of this type of exchange. Therefore, it is necessary to be directed. Without the concentration of direction, you shall experience much distortion. In the event of the least amount of distortion, the x-ray is focused precisely. Therefore, in answering of certain inquiries, what appears to you as moments are taken, to allow openings for accessing other focuses and areas of information.
NORM: That doesnt always have to be opened by the other essence. In other words, you ask for access to information, but the essence that has the information does not have to open? Does not have to?
ELIAS: I do not ask for access to information. I possess the information. I only open to another channel of my own essence.
RETA: Are you getting the information out of Region 2? Is that where youre going to get the information?
ELIAS: Not necessarily, although within certain inquiries, I may access focused energy within Regional Area 2 for information.
RETA: But normally you dont have to, because you have that knowledge. (Here, Elias is grinning, and we all start laughing)
ELIAS: I shall express, Dehl, that all of my focuses are the same to me, so to speak. Therefore, it is not a question of "going to" somewhere to be accessing information. It is, in your terms, not unlike you being engaged within a conversation singularly with one other individual. Your attention may be quite intent. The individual may be speaking to you, and you may turn your attention slightly to hear another individual speak. Therefore, you do not go anywhere! You only turn your hearing. In this same type of manner, I momentarily open my awareness to another area or focus to access information, allowing information to be transmitted to be answering of certain inquiries; for these inquiries are not within the directed attention presently of the focus of this energy exchange.
NORM: You have created focuses to the extent of all of your interests. So your desire for completeness of knowledge was quite intent, and you do have almost complete capability in gaining information then.
ELIAS: Within your physically focused terminology, not! (We all crack up) You shall never be complete, for there is no completion, for you are continuously within a state of becoming! Therefore, how may you be complete?
NORM: Well, youve gone quite a ways, then!
ELIAS: I have only remembered, and so shall you.
TOM: Is there ever gonna be an end to this physical focus to where we have a perfection of all, the universal one, the universal whole?
ELIAS: The point is not to be striving for perfection within physical focus. The point of physical focus is to be experiencing, for you already are perfect!
TOM: Perfect assholes! (Much very dismayed laughter!)
RETA: In your terminology!
ELIAS: I shall be offering essence names before departing this evening. I shall offer Bernard and Simon, and I shall bid you all a very fond au revoir this evening. (And poof, hes gone!)
Elias departs at 9:31
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