Tuesday, January 7, 2003 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Frank (Ulra)

Elias arrives at 11:48 AM. (Arrival time is 20 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

FRANK: Good morning! How are you today?

ELIAS: As always, and yourself?

FRANK: Oh, just fine, thank you. (Elias laughs) It’s nice to speak to you again.

ELIAS: And you also!

FRANK: Thank you!

Well, I think I’ll start by asking you about a new business partner that I have, or at least fairly new. I am curious to know if we have shared many focuses together, first of all. Secondly, I have the impression that we have one focus together where we are both monks during the Middle Ages and I would like to if that’s an accurate impression.

ELIAS: Both impressions are correct.

FRANK: How many focuses have we shared together?

ELIAS: Sixteen.

FRANK: Would you say that’s a small number?

ELIAS: Relatively speaking, although many times it may also be viewed as average.

FRANK: There’s a third partner in this relationship, who actually I’ve been partners with for a number of years now. Have the three of us shared focuses together as well?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: Is this sort of a recurring theme to some extent?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking.

FRANK: Are there particular issues that we work out together or something along those lines?

ELIAS: Not necessarily issues, but there is a choice to be generating these types of relationships repeatedly, for your energies blend in a manner that is beneficial to each of you.

FRANK: So that would be sort of a common theme of all of them?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: Interesting. Well, that’s a great segue into what I want to talk to you about next. Just a few days ago, one of these partners in sort of a nice way criticized me for basically taking up too much of our time on the phone, in conversations and things like that. Somewhat to my surprise, that affected me quite a bit. So I’m wondering what was the message that I was sending to myself on that? What in essence was going on there with that communication from him?

ELIAS: And your impression?

FRANK: I don’t really know. My impression is that I guess on my own I already had some personal concerns about that very issue that I, in fact, had thought about even before that conversation occurred. But somehow I feel there must be more to it than that.

ELIAS: Your impression is correct, and I may express to you also it is offering yourself yet again another opportunity to view yourself and your communications with other individuals and your interaction with other individuals in generating a communication that may be more efficient. You and I have spoken of challenges in relation to communication previously. In this, in a manner of speaking, you are merely allowing yourself to examine more of this subject matter and therefore offering yourself a type of refinement, in a manner of speaking, in relation to your communications with other individuals.

FRANK: In other words, the symbolism is that our communications or my communications are very inefficient in terms of taking too much time to accomplish whatever it is that needs to be accomplished and that that carries over into other aspects of my life and what I’m trying to do.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: Why did that affect me so much?

ELIAS: Ah, this is quite understandable. For many times individuals may be offering themselves communications, and they may be partially listening to those communications but also partially ignoring those communications that you offer to yourself. If that communication within yourself is significant enough in your associations, you offer yourself a reflection through other individuals. The reason that it may be quite affecting or you may be taken aback, so to speak, is that you have already offered yourself information that you have partially been ignoring, and therefore, in your terms, this outward reflection through another individual becomes a slap upon your cheek, so to speak.

FRANK: That’s exactly what it felt like.

ELIAS: For you recognize immediately that you are offering this expression to yourself, for you have already offered this communication to yourself and you have ignored it.

FRANK: I’m not sure what to do with this information. Do you understand what I mean?

ELIAS: Yes. First of all, do not snare yourself in discounting yourself or judging yourself, but merely allow yourself to examine this information that you have presented to yourself, allow yourself to relax and thusly pay attention to your communication. Pay attention to how you are communicating with other individuals. As you pay attention, you shall notice moments in which you express tangenting or you express a rigidness within yourself which produces repetition in your communications, which is motivated by your doubt at times that another individual is accurately understanding and perceiving what you are communicating.

Now; in allowing yourself to relax and realize that in communicating with other individuals it is unnecessary to be repetitive to be incorporating your point, so to speak. For the other individual is interactive with your energy expression, and therefore they shall be receiving what you are projecting outwardly. If you are allowing yourself to relax within your expression more, you shall also be more directed.

FRANK: “More directed” did you say?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: By “more directed,” what do you mean?

ELIAS: As you begin to incorporate tension in your communications, you also generate more of a scattered energy. How this is projected outwardly is that you may be tangenting, you may be offering more communication than is necessary, more information than is necessary, and you may also be repetitive. This is an action that occurs as you begin to incorporate tension in your interaction, which the tension is generated from some doubts associated with your ability to be efficiently communicating with other individuals and being understood and perceived in the manner in which you want.

Now; as you generate that tension, you also generate a scattering of your energy. In that action, when your energy becomes scattered, (and) your thought mechanism, in a manner of speaking skips. Whereas, in trusting yourself and allowing yourself to relax and directing your energy in a more directed manner, you allow a free flow of your own communications to yourself and a more accurate and concise translation in thought, which allows you to direct your communication outwardly more efficiently.

FRANK: That I understand.

ELIAS: You, within your terms, in this present time framework express that it is efficient to be direct with another individual.

Now; you understand that terminology. What I am expressing to you is the method or the manner in which you express that directness with another individual.

FRANK: That makes a lot of sense.

Let me ask you about another issue that sort of surrounds this — I guess maybe you’ve dealt with this — the emotions that I experienced after that. I thought boy, I feel kind of crummy about all this, and I was looking for the message, for the communication, in those emotions as you had instructed me earlier, but again had trouble identifying that.

ELIAS: Now; attempt to more specifically identify the signals, the feelings. What is meant by “crummy?”

FRANK: (Sighs, and Elias chuckles) I guess depressed. Is that specific enough?

ELIAS: Disappointed?

FRANK: Yes.

ELIAS: What you term to be hurt?

FRANK: Yes, exactly.

ELIAS: What is the identification of hurt?

FRANK: Why was I hurt? Is that what you’re asking?

ELIAS: What is the signal?

FRANK: I don’t know, that I was injured in some way?

ELIAS: This is the familiar association. This is not what is actually occurring, for another individual does not create your reality, (and) therefore cannot hurt you or injure you. In this, if you are feeling hurt or injured, what are YOU expressing within yourself that produces that signal?

FRANK: That I’ve injured myself in some way or held myself back?

ELIAS: In denying yourself. The reason that you experience this emotional communication is to precisely express to yourself what you are generating in the moment. What you were generating in the moment was disappointment within yourself in not paying attention to previous communications, disappointment in yourself in relation to how other individuals perceive you, and not presenting the projection that you want to be presenting in relation to other individuals. The injury is your denial of yourself and your choices and your judgment of yourself, which is what generates the signal of hurt.

FRANK: So it’s back to the thing about discounting yourself.

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: Yes, I can see all of that. Okay, well, hopefully something learned for next time! (Elias laughs)

We’ll move on to something else, then. About two weeks ago I got a reasonably significant amount of money out of one of my businesses and just recently found out that basically all of it would have to go to pay taxes, which I’ve sort of under-estimated prior to that time. In fact, it’s almost remarkable how the sum I got is almost the exact amount needed to pay the taxes, which is probably no coincidence!

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Quite!

FRANK: So I’m curious about the messages in that! (Elias chuckles) I don’t really know or have an impression on that one.

ELIAS: I may express to you an acknowledgment in your efficiency in this particular matter, that you have generated precisely what you perceive that you need in this time framework, therefore providing yourself with a comfort that you need not be incorporating worry in relation to generating that expression of money. In a manner of speaking, you have acknowledged yourself! (Laughs)

FRANK: I guess that’s why it doesn’t bother me as much as I thought it would!

ELIAS: (Laughs) Quite!

FRANK: It’s pretty interesting, because when I got the money it didn’t excite me all that much. (Elias laughs) Then when it went, I guess I wasn’t exactly happy about it, but it really hasn’t bothered me that much either, which is unusual for me.

ELIAS: More of an acceptance of how you generate within your reality.

FRANK: Maybe we’ll come back to this money issue later. As you know, it’s a continuing theme, I guess, with many of us.

What I wanted to ask you about next was through a friend I recently received information on and bought a book that’s basically about randomness in the world. It’s interesting because the premise of the book is that many things that happen to people in life — it’s actually about trading financial markets, but it talks about a lot of different things — are the result of random occurrences that are purely by chance. The author makes a pretty interesting case in that direction, but yet I think I feel that in fact that’s not the way the world is, that in reality nothing is random.

So I’m curious to know why did this book come to my attention at this point? Is the message that maybe I’m finally starting to understand that the world isn’t random, or is this sort of telling me that I still do believe to some degree that things happen outside of my control? What’s the message here?

ELIAS: Both. But let me express to you, you have offered yourself more information. You draw this particular book to yourself to allow yourself an objective examination of alterations in your perception and therefore also a recognition of expressing different beliefs. In this, you also are presenting to yourself differences in perceptions, differences in expressed beliefs. You have expressed similar beliefs in the past, and this provides you with an example of expressing different beliefs and therefore changing your perception.

You and I have spoken previously of changing beliefs, and I have expressed to you that you do not change beliefs — they merely are — but you also incorporate all of the beliefs of all of the belief systems. Therefore, you do not change the beliefs themselves, but you do move your attention to different beliefs and choose which beliefs you shall be expressing and what expressions are most efficient in your exploration individually within your focus.

In this, we have also discussed moving attention, and therefore, in expressing different beliefs, you alter your perception. This is the manner in which you create differences and alterations in your reality, through changing your perception.

Now; in drawing this information in this book to yourself, you create an opportunity to actually view how you have not changed beliefs but are expressing different beliefs. Your perception has changed, and you have offered yourself a recognition of widening your awareness and recognizing more clearly what is expressed within your physical reality as consciousness.

You are correct: there is no randomness. Every action is purposeful. Every action is, in a manner of speaking, intentional. It may not be objectively intentional, or rather I may express to you, objectively it is intentional, but you may not necessarily incorporate an objective understanding of what is being expressed or manifest. But this is not to say that it is random, for it is not.

FRANK: While we’re on the subject here of expressing different beliefs, to some extent I feel with regard to certain things — how can I explain this? — I’m sort of moving from a point of accepting one belief system to a different one but sort of having a foot in both camps, so to speak. Do you understand?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: Can you address that a little bit and how one deals with that? Is it just a process that you have to wait to complete?

ELIAS: It is not a matter of waiting; it is a matter of incorporating patience, which is not waiting. It is allowance.

Now; in this, you generate a thought process that is attempting to translate information objectively to you, but remember that you are continuing to filter through beliefs. In this, one of the beliefs that you express and you continue to express — which it matters not, it is not bad — is that you engage movements sequentially, and that if you are choosing to be engaging a movement in relation to one belief system, you should be addressing to that one, and once you have completed the action, you shall move to another — which is inaccurate information. This is associated with beliefs concerning separation.

Now; it also is associated with the beliefs of how you move and create within your reality, which is not quite accurate either, but it is familiar. In this, as I have stated, the action of acceptance of beliefs or belief systems is an action that is occurring in every moment. It is an on-going action. It is not an action that you engage to complete and thusly move to another action, for your beliefs are not being eliminated and they are continuing to exist and be influencing.

It is a matter of intentionally, objectively, knowingly directing yourself, recognizing the beliefs, recognizing the implications of the beliefs, and allowing yourself to choose in each moment without judgment concerning your beliefs. Therefore, in a manner of speaking, you may be addressing to one or several — and in more of a likelihood, several — simultaneously, for it is dependent upon what interactions you are engaging within your day.

FRANK: In other words, as different things occur during the day, they sort of highlight different belief systems?

ELIAS: Correct, and each moment is an opportunity to be expressing acceptance, therefore not creating an association of absolutes.

FRANK: Let me stop you there for a moment. If I understand what you’re saying correctly, it sounds like it’s almost as simple as something occurs, a thought process or whatever, I recognize that I’m reflecting a certain belief, and at that moment — for example, we’ve discussed a belief that it takes hard work to generate financial rewards — so at that moment I intentionally choose to adopt a different belief system, maybe something totally the opposite of that. It doesn’t seem like it works that simply in practice. Is that because I haven’t really tried it, or I don’t understand what you’re...?

ELIAS: Ah, but it does, my friend. In this, in the moment you may be altering your perception in association with aligning with a different belief.

Now; what becomes confusing to you and what appears to you to not be working, so to speak, is that you are not quite understanding the concept of each moment and that one moment is not necessarily affecting of another moment. In one moment you may be intentionally directing yourself, noticing your beliefs, noticing the influence of your belief that hard work must be incorporated to generate success, and in that moment you may be choosing to align with and express a different belief — and in that moment you shall be altering your perception and altering your direction.

Now; the trickiness, so to speak, of this action is to be continuously aware of what you are generating and what you are expressing in each moment. For you may be expressing that in one moment and you may be altering your reality in that moment, and in another moment you may be expressing once again that familiar belief that hard work is necessary to incorporate success. (Firmly) They do not disappear. They are not eliminated.

FRANK: So that gets back to sort of the rigidity of thought that you talked about earlier, this concept that you change something you don’t have to change and so now you can move on...

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: ...when maybe that’s not the case.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: So you’re saying that it is, in fact, just that simple, of me recognizing what’s going on in this particular moment and deciding I don’t want it to be that way, I want it to be in line with some different belief.

ELIAS: It is that simple and it is that challenging, for the mere action of holding your attention in the now genuinely and recognizing what is being expressed rather than expressing automatic responses and expressing your automatic pilot, so to speak, is quite unfamiliar and may be quite challenging. Therefore, the action is that simple but it is also very unfamiliar, and therefore it is also that challenging.

FRANK: Is it safe to assume that the more frequently that one is able to make that choice in the now, the easier it becomes down the line?

ELIAS: Correct!

FRANK: I guess maybe what I’m saying is that currently I sort of fall back into a group of familiar beliefs, and that if I create a new set of beliefs, not create but...

ELIAS: Move your attention.

FRANK: Move my attention toward a different set of beliefs, once that becomes familiar then that’s the familiar thing that I would be more likely to fall into.

ELIAS: Correct, and the significance in all of this movement is to express those beliefs that reinforce your trust of yourself. For as you reinforce your trust of yourself in association with any belief, you allow yourself to become more familiar with that and you allow yourself much more of an ease in generating those associations.

FRANK: In my particular case, are there any specific beliefs that reinforce trust in myself? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes. You may be examining certain actions that you incorporate that you express an ease within and that you acknowledge yourself within, and in that recognition you may also examine what beliefs are influencing of those expressions. Look to your mundane actions that you incorporate within each day, for they are more significant than you realize.

FRANK: That kind of gets back to what we talked about in the last session, doesn’t it?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: I have worked on that a bit!

ELIAS: (Laughs) And what has been your discovery?

FRANK: Not a whole lot, I’m afraid! (Elias laughs) Although in some small ways I do notice myself being more aware. Some very minor things, but they’re there nonetheless.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Quite, which also reinforces your awareness of yourself, your familiarity of yourself, your trust and your acceptance of yourself.

FRANK: Mundane actions — we’re really talking about the sorts of things that we discussed last time we were together.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: I must admit, it’s hard for me to see the significance in many of them, although your examples were helpful.

ELIAS: What is significant more so in that exercise, my friend, is that you allow yourself to recognize how often you are expressing automatic pilot, how often you are not paying attention in the now. You are not paying attention to what you are actually doing. For as you recognize that, you also offer yourself, once again, choice, for in your recognition that you are NOT paying attention to what you are actually doing or you are NOT holding your attention in the now, you generate more of a motivation to be paying attention.

FRANK: Actually, with what you’ve just said earlier about perception, I think for the first time, at least for me, it sort of all ties together everything you’ve said about automatic responses and being in the now and perception. I now can understand how it all fits together, I think, at least objectively.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Now you may incorporate the application and move the concept into reality!

FRANK: Let me ask you about something else. I’m sure it probably relates to some of the things we’ve talked about. Last time we spoke, I told you that I was having this problem with heartburn, a gastro-intestinal problem, which has actually, particularly lately, gotten worse. So I’m taking medication for it and it’s helped some. Last time we talked you told me that had to do with me pushing my energy.

ELIAS: Correct, and what have you been engaging recently?

FRANK: I guess pushing my energy pretty hard and all this stuff that we discussed earlier.

ELIAS: Correct, and in association with acquiring another partner, which you automatically push your energy even harder.

FRANK: So that’s an automatic response?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: Again we’re back to this issue of just sort of relaxing and letting it all flow.

ELIAS: And paying attention to what you are actually generating in the moment, paying attention to what you are actually doing. (Pause)

FRANK: Actually, I guess that’s about all I have here for today.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Very well. Perhaps, my friend, you may offer yourself permission to distract yourself and incorporate some fun!

FRANK: Okay, I’m for that! Let’s do it! (Both laugh)

ELIAS: I am aware that you incorporate beliefs concerning your seasons and your time frameworks, and that in this time framework of what you term to be your season of winter, you allow yourself less of an expression of fun than you do within other seasons. But your days are merely days, my friend! It matters not what your season may be! (Laughs) Allow yourself the freedom to express your playfulness.

FRANK: That’s a perception that goes back to when I was a little kid.

ELIAS: Many individuals incorporate this belief. It is a mass belief. (Chuckles)

FRANK: That’s one I wouldn’t have recognized, but now that you mention it, I certainly see it.

ELIAS: This is the significance of paying attention! (Laughs)

FRANK: I think I’ll go skiing!

ELIAS: Ah! Very well! And I shall be incorporating the anticipation that you shall not incorporate breaking a bone (laughs loudly), for you DO incorporate repetitiveness...

FRANK: I haven’t broken anything in a long time!

ELIAS: Ah, I am aware, but you do incorporate the repetitiveness of generating some unpleasantry in your fun (both laugh), which is quite amusing!

FRANK: Well, for you maybe, not always for me!

ELIAS: (Laughs) It is amusing for you also, in your conversations with myself! Ha ha ha!

FRANK: That’s true. You’ve got me there. (Elias laughs) I’ll do my best to come back healthy next time!

ELIAS: Very well!

FRANK: Thank you. This is, as usual, very, very helpful and enjoyable.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome, my friend. As always I continue to express my energy with you, and I shall be playful with you. (Chuckles)

FRANK: Good!

ELIAS: (Laughs) To you as always, my friend, in tremendous affection, au revoir.

FRANK: Good-bye.

Elias departs at 12:39 PM.

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