Monday, December 9, 2002 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and a new participant, Danny (Marna)

Elias arrives at 2:21 PM. (Arrival time is 17 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

DANNY: Good morning, Elias.

ELIAS: Ha ha! Welcome!

DANNY: Thank you. It’s good to be able to finally talk to you objectively. (Elias laughs) As you know, I have a bunch of questions, so I’ll get right into it. Could you do me a favor and when you’re done answering a question use the word “proceed” so I don’t interrupt you?

ELIAS: Very well.

DANNY: Thank you very much. I just have three questions for the essence of Kuti, K-U-T-I. He wanted to know how many focuses he has in this dimension.

ELIAS: Five hundred fifty-six.

DANNY: He wanted to know how many focuses he has in this time frame.

ELIAS: Six.

DANNY: And one more — he wanted to know what his signature color and musical note are.

ELIAS: And is there an offering of an impression?

DANNY: Oh, no, no.

ELIAS: Very well. (Pause) Essence color, forest green; focus color, pink. (Pause)

DANNY: My first question for myself is my essence name, and could you spell it?

ELIAS: Essence name, Marna, M-A-R-N-A (MAR nah).

DANNY: Thank you. Essence family, alignment and orientation?

ELIAS: And your impression?

DANNY: I have two, actually — Sumafi/Sumari or Sumafi/Tumold.

ELIAS: First impression is correct.

DANNY: With an orientation of intermediate?

ELIAS: Correct.

DANNY: Okay! Signature color and musical note — I have no impressions along that way, except maybe possibly something along the lines of blue — blue or purple.

ELIAS: Lavender.

DANNY: And the note?

ELIAS: B.

DANNY: Next question — am I a final focus? My impression is yes.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

DANNY: Thank you. I’m not sure about this one. Am I a chapter focus?

ELIAS: Do you participate in chapters, yes.

DANNY: Am I participating in a chapter in this focus?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANNY: Can you give me a very short summary of what that might entail?

ELIAS: What is meant by this is that you participate in this chapter focus, which is involving what we may term to be the book of the shift. Therefore, you also participate in the other chapters of this particular book, so to speak.

DANNY: Can you give me the total amount of focuses I have in this dimension?

ELIAS: Total numbering, 1344.

DANNY: Thank you. How many total number of focuses do I have in this time frame?

ELIAS: Six.

DANNY: Thank you. Is this an emotional, intellectual, religious or political focus?

ELIAS: Emotional.

DANNY: Total amount of famous focuses?

ELIAS: Eight.

DANNY: Can you name any of them?

ELIAS: I shall leave this to your investigation! Ha ha ha!

DANNY: Oh, boy. Do I have any chakras out of alignment? (Pause)

ELIAS: You may be adjusting yellow and orange.

DANNY: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

DANNY: Now, the rest of the questions I have could you possibly answer in my terms and then your terms? It would help give me a bridge for understanding. I’ll just leave it up to you how you want to answer the questions.

When I was a little child, I experienced that inner sense of conceptualization, the feeling of hugeness, a few times. What was that a symbolization of?

ELIAS: It is not necessarily a symbolization. It is an experience to offer you an understanding of these concepts. For as you allow yourself to experience, you incorporate a clearer understanding of the concepts that you may later offer to yourself. In this, without generating experiences within your physical reality, concepts remain concepts and are not actually incorporated into your physical reality. Therefore, you may generate an intellectual understanding of certain concepts but your actual knowing of those concepts is not real. Therefore, you have offered yourself experiences to allow you to recognize the reality of the concepts that you have subsequently offered to yourself through information.

DANNY: Also, when I was in my late teenage years, a number of times I experienced the only thing I could call it is like waves of consciousness. Could you explain to me what that experience was all about that I created for myself?

ELIAS: This is quite similar to your previous question.

DANNY: Oh, the feeling of hugeness?

ELIAS: No, it is similar in reason. For in this, now you draw information to yourself to explain objectively waves in consciousness and what is meant by this action.

You are participating now in waves of consciousness, which are generated by the collective. You may experience your individual movement in relation to these waves in consciousness, but you now incorporate a clearer understanding of the meaning of these actions, for you have offered yourself a prelude experience, so to speak.

DANNY: Yes, I certainly did! (Elias chuckles) That was like 25 years ago. (Laughs) Okay.

How come, while I was growing up, my adopted mother took a lot of her anger and frustrations out on me? What was that all about? I don’t really have much of a clue.

ELIAS: Are you asking for information with regard to your parent or to yourself?

DANNY: Well, actually both. I mean, I know I chose to be adopted and I chose to be with them, but I just didn’t understand her action toward me.

ELIAS: Let me express to you an offering of information which may be helpful to you in your acceptance and your understanding of not merely this individual but many individuals.

In this, this individual, I may say to you, genuinely wanted to be incorporating the role of a parent and expressed a genuine desire to be interactive with a child. But this individual also expresses tremendous issue in regard to guilt and discounting of self, discounting of her abilities in relation to the desire that has been expressed. Therefore, in this tremendous discounting of self and expression of guilt, this has been channeled, so to speak, into an outward expression of blame, which generates tremendous conflict.

Many times individuals are expressing such an intensity of discounting of themselves, and generate this particular expression of guilt. This becomes a tremendous source of conflict and even trauma, for as you are aware, what you generate within yourself you project outwardly, and as you project outwardly, you also reflect to yourself what you are expressing inwardly. In this, you reinforce what you are generating inwardly.

With this individual, the guilt has been an expression of the perception of devaluation of self. Therefore, this is the energy which is expressed outwardly. In this, as the energy is expressed outwardly, the individual creates expressions to reinforce that devaluing of self; which, as blame is generated, conflict ensues and this justifies the guilt. In a manner of speaking, it is likened to a circle.

DANNY: Yes, I understand. Have I had other focuses with my biological sister or adopted mother or father?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANNY: With whom?

ELIAS: All.

DANNY: Oh, really! It’s funny, I don’t really feel much...

ELIAS: What I am expressing is that you have incorporated other focuses with all of these individuals, not in all of your focuses.

DANNY: Right, I realize that. Speaking of focuses, did I — I know it’s all simultaneous — did I specialize in any areas per se? Was I, let’s say, a doctor in many lives or a voodoo doctor or whatever in many lives? Was I all over the map or...? Do you know what I’m saying?

ELIAS: Yes, I am understanding. I may express to you, you incorporate a preference of types of focuses, yes — one in different types of expressions of medical practices, so to speak, and also in trade.

DANNY: Trade, like a merchant?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANNY: I understand.

I know I’ve been on my hamster wheel for a long time. I know I have conflicts, depression, core beliefs that I haven’t neutralized and so on and so forth, and I’ve practiced a great degree of separation. I was just wondering if I could just sit back and listen to you give me what I’d call an overview of my life and maybe point out certain beliefs or fears that need to be neutralized. (Pause)

ELIAS: Let me inquire of you, what do you view as your most strongly expressed and most frequently expressed experience or automatic response?

DANNY: I guess one of them would be I know I have a lot of anger within me. But I don’t necessarily show it to a lot of people.

ELIAS: Very well.

Now; express to myself, what do you view as your trigger in association with anger?

DANNY: I guess being maybe misunderstood, misunderstood in my communications possibly, or something along those lines.

ELIAS: Very well.

Now; in assessing that as your trigger, what do you view that YOU generate that creates this expression of misunderstanding within other individuals?

DANNY: Maybe possibly that I’ve given them mixed communications. That’s possible.

ELIAS: And in these moments...

DANNY: And also that I don’t take much of a stand on many things.

ELIAS: And in these moments, do you express an objective awareness of the type of communication that you are expressing to other individuals?

DANNY: No, most of the time I’d say I just take a calm approach and accept what other people express to me, even though I might disagree with it secretly.

ELIAS: And may you attempt to assess what is your fear?

DANNY: In a way, I’ve told myself — but I don’t think it’s the complete truth — that it goes back to my early years, you know, the need to be liked by many people, to be accepted by many, that kind of deal.

ELIAS: I am understanding. But in this, what are you actually generating?

DANNY: Sort of like a falsehood, because not everybody’s going to love everybody.

ELIAS: Correct, but this is not the point. You are correct that you are expressing a falsehood, but not precisely in relation to the expression that everyone shall or shall not love everyone else. In this, what you are generating is a falsehood to yourself, for you are seeking approval outside of yourself and you are not expressing your own value.

DANNY: Who I am.

ELIAS: Correct. Or paying attention to your choices, your freedom and what YOU want, and how to be expressing YOUR preferences, and therefore expressing yourself genuinely. But in this, the first step, so to speak, is to be recognizing yourself and moving yourself into an expression of value and acceptance.

This is what generates this expression of anger within you. Not necessarily that other individuals are misunderstanding you, but that you are denying your own expressions and stifling your choices and your freedom to be falsely accommodating of other individuals in your seeking of approval. But you do not generate genuine approval from other individuals, for you are not expressing this within yourself.

Now; I am in agreement with your assessment that this has been being expressed for many years within your focus, and your trap, so to speak, is your perception — which creates your reality — of continuing to be a victim of your childhood.

DANNY: Yes. Whew! Yes, indeed. I guess it’s just gonna take practice and communicating my inner stuff, right, to other people? That kind of a thing?

ELIAS: Do not overwhelm yourself, my friend, in generating this type of thought process. For in your terms, this is much too large presently for you to be actually implementing. Allow yourself to relax and allow yourself to begin acknowledging yourself individually and moving into expressions of acceptance of yourself.

Now; the manner in which you may begin this type of action is to be, within your day, paying attention to what you are actually doing, paying attention to what you are expressing to yourself in emotional communications. Even if you are not quite interpreting what the communication IS, merely the noticing of the signal initially is adequate. For there are many expressions within yourself that you are unfamiliar with paying attention to, and this is the reason that you continue to reinforce this familiar behavior in camouflaging yourself. But you are not merely camouflaging yourself to other individuals; you are quite effectively camouflaging yourself to yourself.

In this, as you allow yourself to pay attention within your day to what you are DOING and what you are feeling — regardless of how unimportant it appears in the moment — as you engage that action, intentionally express to yourself not to judge what you are doing. If you are experiencing a depression within a moment, merely notice what you are feeling. Do not attempt to force energy to change that feeling but rather merely notice, acknowledge that this is what you are generating in this moment and not judge it. Whatever you are actually doing in action, notice and relax, and do not judge and do not compare.

This in itself as an initial exercise may be quite challenging, and you may be incorporating some practice in this type of action. But I may express to you quite definitely, it shall be very influencing and beneficial to you, for you have become very accustomed to being a victim. This is a manner in which you may interrupt that familiarity and that continuous reinforcement within yourself, and therefore loosen your attention and allow yourself more of a flexibility with your attention. Therefore, once expressing more flexibility with the movement of your attention, you may begin to recognize more of your choices.

You express a tremendous tightness in your energy, my friend. In this tightness, you are holding to your energy in an expression of protection of yourself. But in actuality you are generating your own prison, are you not?

DANNY: Yes, yes.

ELIAS: Therefore, offer yourself the key to your own lock and allow yourself to relax within yourself, recognizing that there is no outside expression that may be offered by any individual that you need to be expressing protection from, for no other individual may create for you ANY expression within your reality unless you express it yourself.

Another individual may express an intention to be hurtful, but the reality of the situation — and it is QUITE real — is that regardless of any other individual’s intention, it may not penetrate your energy field unless you allow it. Even if you allow it, YOU configure that energy. Therefore, if you are expressing hurtfulness, it is not being generated by another individual. It is an expression which is being generated within you in relation to some choice that you are denying yourself.

DANNY: Oh, boy. I have a lot of work to do!

ELIAS: And we incorporate much time and much energy! Therefore, it matters not! (Laughs)

DANNY: I hope I can one day look back at this and laugh real hard.

ELIAS: And you can!

DANNY: In a way, I can. Based on the information that you’ve given out, I can, in a way. I can.

ELIAS: You incorporate a tremendous potential, my friend. You also incorporate a tremendous capacity for appreciation if you allow yourself. But you camouflage that appreciation with anger.

DANNY: So does a lot of my stuff go back to the self-trust and the self-acceptance things?

ELIAS: Quite!

DANNY: Okay — just making sure. (Elias laughs) I’ve heard you say that many a time!

ELIAS: Be remembering what I have expressed in relation to your parent. As you contemplate that information, offer yourself permission to not generate similar expression. You are quite a worthy individual and worthy of much more than anger, which may be related to guilt yourself.

DANNY: I don’t know. I know you talk about probabilities and so on and so forth, but before I was born I chose the adoption process, is that correct? Is that how it works?

ELIAS: Not necessarily. That is a choice that is created in the moment.

DANNY: Oh. But I did choose my birth parents?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANNY: And I did choose to be in a private foster home for a short while?

ELIAS: Yes.

DANNY: And then I chose to be adopted by the parents who adopted me?

ELIAS: Yes. These have been your choices, and they are purposeful, for they have offered you information. And you have generated experiences that...

DANNY: I’ll come home with some depth, that’s for sure!

ELIAS: (Laughs) And in these experiences, you have offered yourself information. NOW what you are engaging is unraveling that information.

DANNY: Is there anything else that you would like to tell me or share with me that I am not aware of, as far as you can see?

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! This is quite a large question, is it not?

DANNY: Oh, you mean you could go on forever!

ELIAS: (Laughs) Let me express to you, my friend, you are not alone. There are many expressions that I view within all of you that you are not aware of yet!

DANNY: I see in the transcripts a lot of people talking about being affected by the shift. I don’t know, I feel the same. Is it because I don’t plug into the mass belief system that much that I am less affected by it, or is it because I’m on my hamster wheel? I don’t know what to say. Can you understand what I’m saying?

ELIAS: I understand what you are expressing.

Now; it is not necessarily that you are not moving with this shift or that you are not affected, for you are. But some individuals are experiencing an affectingness that may be disturbing or conflicting to them and other individuals are not.

With you individually, your energy is being held so very tightly to yourself, as I have expressed, in this action of protection, that you are not expressing an openness in relation to yourself with regard to this shift in consciousness. You ARE moving within it and you ARE expressing a widening of your awareness, as are all other individuals within your physical reality, and you ARE offering yourself information in relation to that movement. But your movement now is to be focusing your attention upon you and becoming familiar with you.

DANNY: And my expressions.

ELIAS: Correct. And your choices, familiarizing yourself with what you actually do within your experiences within your day and therefore offering yourself information concerning what influences what you do, which beliefs are influencing what you generate in action. You may find it interesting, my friend, to be noticing even within one day how many actions you incorporate that are underlyingly motivated by the belief of protection.

DANNY: I’ll keep that in mind — a lot of noticing of my reasons behind what I do.

ELIAS: Correct.

DANNY: Noticing my intellect, noticing my emotional stuff especially.

ELIAS: Yes. But pay attention to the actions that you incorporate also.

DANNY: That equates to whatever I’m thinking about.

ELIAS: Not necessarily, for many of the actions that you incorporate within your day require no thought. They are automatic responses and in your estimation are insignificant and unimportant. They are merely routine.

DANNY: Right, they’ve become routine, yes.

ELIAS: Correct.

DANNY: I see what you’re saying.

One of the biggest problems I’ve had all my life is trying to find something that would really hold my interest. I was just wondering, are there areas that I would really enjoy, so to speak?

ELIAS: This information holds your interest.

DANNY: Oh, very much! (Elias chuckles) Very much.

ELIAS: NOW attempt to be implementing it!

DANNY: Yes, practice what you preach!

ELIAS: This shall hold your attention quite efficiently. (Laughing)

DANNY: Yeah, what you’ve talked about today — whew! Well, all I can say is the next time I speak to you, I want to report back some information to you, so to speak.

ELIAS: And I shall be anticipating listening and receiving your report, so to speak! Ha ha ha!

I may also be acknowledging of you, for now that you have allowed yourself to pierce through one expression of your fear and actually engage conversation with myself, for you ARE aware that you have created the delay. In this, now that you have allowed yourself to move through that obstacle, you shall allow yourself much more easily futurely your interaction with myself.

DANNY: Oh, good, good! You’re 100 percent right, and I’ll tell you why. Saturday, two days ago, I ran out of gas at the post office and I was just standing there trying to figure it out. I added oil, the battery was working. Then a stranger came up to me and said to check the gas, see if I had any gas. I had run out of gas and didn’t realize it. They offered to get me gas. They brought the gas back. We had no way of putting the gas into the car. He went out again and bought an instrument so we could put the gas into the car. He asked me for no money, didn’t introduce himself, and just offered the idea of maybe doing this for somebody else that I ran into. I was thinking about this, and I said well, if I created that, I also created not being able to get in touch with you for five months.

ELIAS: Correct.

DANNY: And to see how the effortlessness of that situation can be translated to all the aspects of my life.

ELIAS: Correct! Interesting experience you have offered to yourself.

DANNY: Oh, yeah, it was nice, real nice — one of those little experiences everyone takes pride in, you know, proud of their creation, and then these other experiences that you’d rather not talk about the rest of your life! (Elias laughs) You know what I’m saying.

ELIAS: Be remembering, my friend, your greatest gift to yourself is your shadows, for this is what expresses your depth.

DANNY: Well, I’m going to go home with a lot of depth, I think! (Elias laughs)

Well, we’re just about out of time. I want to thank you for your time, so to speak, even though it’s no time for you!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! You are quite correct!

DANNY: One day I will understand that concept in its full meaning. You know what I’m saying by that, I’m sure.

ELIAS: Yes.

DANNY: I can’t claim to have accepted the idea of simultaneous time totally because I’m ensconced in time...

ELIAS: You are correct!

DANNY: ...but I know you speak the truth. That I know.

ELIAS: (Laughs) And it is within you also!

DANNY: Yes, indeed. Well, I want to thank you, Elias.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome, my friend, and I shall be anticipating our next discussion.

DANNY: Yes, and I hope to have a lot to say next time for you.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Very well. I shall be continuing to offer encouraging and supportive energy to you.

DANNY: Thank you, I appreciate that. I appreciate that.

ELIAS: And it shall be offered continuously.

DANNY: Thank you.

ELIAS: I express to you my great affection and tremendous fondness in generating a friendship.

DANNY: Thank you, I appreciate that.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome. To you in encouragement, my friend, au revoir.

DANNY: Au revoir.

Elias departs at 3:11 PM.

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