Thursday, December 5, 2002 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Anjuli (Myranda)

Elias arrives at 11:50 AM. (Arrival time is 19 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

ANJULI: Good afternoon, Elias! I created a doorbell ringing just a few seconds ago, and right away I felt that’s a message to me.

ELIAS: And what is your message?

ANJULI: Ja, that I wanted to start talking with you, so I saw this as you ringing the doorbell. The people who were at the door were coming to the apartment of my parents because a water pipe is blocked. So I saw this as me telling myself something about some sort of connection. Then I told Mary about that and she was already ready for the energy exchange. Then you came in, and you came in much faster than in other sessions we had. Can that be?

ELIAS: Yes. (Chuckles)

ANJULI: Oh, Elias, I am so excited!

ELIAS: Expressing a great anxiousness in engaging our conversation, are you not? Ha ha!

ANJULI: Oh, yes, Elias! (Laughs) Well, I think I at first ask a question for a new individual in the forum.

ELIAS: Very well.

ANJULI: He is René from Germany and he would like to know his essence name. He has two impressions.

ELIAS: Very well.

ANJULI: One is Valhallas and another one is Lantan.

ELIAS: Lanntyn (lawn TIN).

ANJULI: How is that written?

ELIAS: L-A-N-N-T-Y-N.

ANJULI: Then he was close. Oh, he will be so pleased. Then his essence family — he has the impression of Sumafi belonging and Milumet aligned.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: And common and emotional?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: His impression about his essence color is turquoise.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: And his focus color a dark blue?

ELIAS: Navy blue.

ANJULI: Thank you, Elias. He has some intent impressions. He was a looking a lot for his intent these past days and now came up with his intent is experiencing vastness.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: He had some ocean dream and that is why he discovered that. Apparently we can ask you about intent impressions in a very short question! We are preparing for that, for to ask you questions like this. Isn’t this great? Okay, thank you very much.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

ANJULI: And a few impressions about shared focuses: Ashrah had the impression that I have a focus with her focus George Sand and that I am Marie Dorval, and I think it maybe fits. Is she my focus?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: In the last session, we talked about two dreams I had; in one of the dreams I was a prisoner and then sort of adjusted to being a prisoner and the dream ended with the genetic soup. I connected that with another dimension and we talked about this shift. I have meanwhile the feeling that there is something in addition to what we discovered already.

ELIAS: And your impression?

ANJULI: In this dream, I went back to my old family and I had the impression that this country was invaded by Spanish people, and then Carter/Cynthia talked about his Spanish focus Francisco Pizarro, who was invading the Incan kingdom. We have the impression that I have a focus as the daughter of the Incan king Atahuallpa, who married Pizarro.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Oh, Elias, for my few focuses I have quite a lot which are historically recorded! (Elias chuckles)

Ja, and then Carter/Cynthia and I felt also that he has a shared focus with my Sisi focus, and we had two impressions. One would be the father of Sisi, Duke Max of Bavaria. Could that be that this is a focus of Cynthia?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: He also felt some connection with Emperor Franz Joseph of Austria, the husband of Sisi. Was Carter an observing essence for a while or maybe a counterpart action?

ELIAS: Counterpart, not observing essence.

ANJULI: Okay, interesting. We are still investigating the focus Allesander has with my Sisi focus. Is he Irma Sztaray, who was with Sisi when she disengaged?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Finally we got it! He wanted to find a female focus of himself, so now we have that.

Okay, let’s see. I have a endless list, Elias, of what I could talk with you about. (Elias laughs) I start to think that I need to do this in a different way, because I have so many experiences per day and I want to talk about all of them with you. That can’t possibly be done in sessions. (Laughs) I would need at least two sessions per day with you. Ja, that means I will need to translate you into solid form, Elias, if I want to talk with you objectively about these things.

ELIAS: Or you may merely interact with my energy, knowing that it is present, and you may speak with me in that manner.

ANJULI: Yes, and some of the questions are a little bit too difficult anyway to put into words, because some of them are more the desire to share my experiences with you, like look what I discovered about how to create, this is so exciting, something like that. Then I felt, okay, I don’t have to think that everything needs to be verbally shared with you. There are so many avenues of communicating with you.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: I also tell myself that we are so much used to this objective interaction through language and I want to feel again that the other avenues of communication are as real as this one.

ELIAS: I am understanding.

ANJULI: Yes, so it could be that I am. Ja.

ELIAS: But you also may verbally speak with me, if you are so choosing, within your room and merely know that my energy is present.

ANJULI: Oh ja, that is true. So it is also about viewing many choices of how I interact with you and trust myself that I can create all the different ways of communicating with you. There is still a little bit of not enough trust in that area of creating that?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Elias, since we talked in the challenges session about how I create, that I create these many surprises, and then you explained to me the importance of recognizing of how I create, I have a sort of understanding that this is how I create.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Ja. Since then I am more with the how of my creating and not so much with what I create. That changes anyway so much, and I feel more familiar with the how than with the what. The what I create gets created with much more of an ease when I have my attention on the how.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: How I create is something that I couldn’t put into a thought process. I know how I create, but it is not something I could put into words. It is something about how I surprise myself and that the situations I create are often not what I think they are, and I use them to feel into this how I create.

ELIAS: Yes, I am understanding.

ANJULI: So this means I have a knowing about how I create but I don’t use a thought process for this knowing?

ELIAS: Many times. You are correct, yes.

ANJULI: We don’t need to use a thought process?

ELIAS: Not necessarily. In this, your thoughts are being generated continuously. It is a matter of attention and you are not always directing your attention to your thoughts.

In this, in a manner of speaking, you are correct. It is unnecessary to be focusing your attention upon thought in relation to how you generate your experiences and how you generate what you are creating. Thought is, as I have stated many times, a mechanism of translation. In this, it is not necessary, so to speak, that you be translating through thought what you are actually creating. Are you understanding?

ANJULI: Yes.

ELIAS: Thought also does not precede what you create within your reality. Therefore, once again, it is not necessary to be moving your attention to thought and its translations in relation to what you are actually manifesting.

Now; this is not to say that moving your attention to thought is inefficient or bad, or that you should not be incorporating thought, for many individuals do offer themselves a clearer understanding of what they are creating as they move their attention to this translating mechanism of thought.

But I may express to you, individuals that express a thought focus or a political focus engage this type of action more strongly in paying attention to thought processes than do individuals that express an emotional or religious focus. For as you are aware, individually as you generate experiences and your movement, the manner in which you most frequently generate much of your movement is, as you say, to feel into your manifestations, which does not necessarily engage the thought process.

ANJULI: But this feeling into that also does not necessarily feel like me using emotions.

ELIAS: Correct, you are correct. This is not an expression of emotion, necessarily.

ANJULI: Would this then be like the religious-focused people do it?

ELIAS: Somewhat, yes.

ANJULI: Because you said we use all four ways but one of them more; so this means that I am sometimes using the others, also.

ELIAS: Correct, but one is dominant.

ANJULI: Yes, I am understanding. This means I am exploring all of them a little bit, like that and that and that?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: I sometimes thought that the political focused-ness of Allesander, for example, feels like a mixture of a thought focus and a dispersed essence, feeling into the everything?

ELIAS: Similar.

ANJULI: Can it be seen like that? He also feels that due to that similarity he is understanding the dispersed-ness a little bit.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: This leads me to something else, and I use the example of Ahmed because he is common in his orientation but he feels different than other commons. You once said that is because he is using his empathic sense a lot, but still there is an experience which I don’t know how to explain. We were starting to wonder if within the various orientations are also differences. Now I am also starting to think if it is with the orientations like with these four types of emotional, thought, political and religious focus, that we sometimes are a little bit like the other orientations.

ELIAS: No. The orientations are quite different, and as I have expressed, it is what you would term to be extremely rare that any individual shall alter even briefly their orientation within one focus. But also allow yourself the realization that each individual expresses their own unique personality qualities, which also may be a factor, so to speak, in what you feel into in relation to another individual.

There are many expressions that each of you incorporate, many qualities that you generate that manifest in your individual unique expressions. The orientations are affecting of you, for in a manner of speaking, each of them is a type of lens that you incorporate with your perception and that incorporation influences how you view yourself, other individuals and your world, and therefore how you interact with yourself, other individuals and your world.

ANJULI: I am understanding, yes. Can it also be that another orientation, when I compare various individuals with the same soft, common or intermediate orientation, that in addition to this, that for example when they use the inner senses a lot like Ahmed does, this is why he feels more subjective to me and that is why I was confused about his common orientation? They are then in that moment more subjectively focused than objectively focused.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Ahmed explained to me that when he is using his inner senses and is more subjectively focused he is still feeling how he is doing that differently than I am doing it.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: So there is still this difference in experience about the various orientations. When a common individual is using the inner senses more often and is focusing on the subjective, this could feel for me a little bit similar as I am feeling as a soft, but they are still doing this in a different way as I do it?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Oh, now I got it! This will be interesting when I can share this with the others. (18-second pause) Yes, Elias?

ELIAS: Yes?

ANJULI: Now I would like to talk with you about our energy mix.

ELIAS: Very well.

ANJULI: In the last session we said that you once moved my arm and later my foot, and then we said that we can be playful with our energy mix.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: After that I had so interesting playful experiences about that with you. (Elias chuckles) It is difficult for me to put the various experiences into words, but I have a feeling that I was sensing how the energies were interacting. You moved something in my body and I was also doing something. You were doing something in one part of my body and I was doing something in another part, and we were doing that together.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Have I been correct in my impressions of your energy and what you did and what I did with my body?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Oh, Elias, I was once lying there when you moved parts of my body and I was laughing and laughing and laughing! I enjoyed the playful movements you did with my body so much.

ELIAS: (Laughs) And allowing yourself experimentation.

ANJULI: Yes, that was so interesting. Now I am so interested into the kind of focus of attention which you used for doing that. Is that a different one than the ones I so far know? It is not the one which I call Inmi-Elias?

ELIAS: No.

ANJULI: At some point I even had the feeling of two attentions of your essence being there...

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

ANJULI: ...one for which it was a little bit more new to experience that and another one who was experienced in doing that?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes.

ANJULI: There was a feeling of great eagerness. You were interested a lot in doing that. This attention was interested in that, he was liking to do that, and it was an interesting experiment for that attention?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes.

ANJULI: Like for me, too.

ELIAS: Yes, a curiosity.

ANJULI: I must have been sort of very relaxed when we did that because that was very easy. At first I was not so much relaxed when we did that, and then I started to play on the computer, for example. I was sitting on the computer and you moved my finger. We played that you were moving the finger which was pushing the mouse for the next email.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) I am acknowledging of your noticing.

ANJULI: After that I felt much more of an ease about all of that and then we did more things. For example, I tried to walk around with you, you doing something and me doing something of the movements in my body, and it was again a mixture of us doing that. At first, because it was new for me, I was a bit more careful with that. Then I felt how easy it is, this interaction of our energies and how we know who of us is doing what.

ELIAS: Yes. It is merely an allowance of yourself to be interactive.

Now; this also provides you with a type of objective evidence of my energy and my presence, which, as I have stated, as you know that my energy is present, you may also speak to me, if you are so choosing. For you are aware of the presence of my energy, even if you have not projected a physical manifestation. It matters not.

ANJULI: Yes. This playfulness we did is also a sort of translating our energy interaction into the objective, after all.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: And it worked because it distracted me greatly. I had my attention on that and this helped me a lot to have the attention in the now and using new experiences for getting distracted from other experiences. I am generating a lot of experiences which are attracting my attention, and then I could have it in the past and not on the new change or what... I am not sure of what I am expressing.

ELIAS: (Laughs) I am understanding.

ANJULI: There is much going on. I have the feeling there is much more going on than in the past, and I am sort of practicing how to deal with many interesting things going on.

ELIAS: Yes, and practicing familiarizing yourself with different expressions of energy.

ANJULI: This was another way of how our energies are playing together and how I can translate that into the objective. It’s true. Then I tell myself with that how many various ways I still can invent for how we can play.

ELIAS: Yes. (Chuckles)

ANJULI: Elias, about how I can translate you into physical solid form, I thought about the talks we have had in other sessions, like for example the thunderstorm-being which I created. I later thought about that session and how in that moment did not know how I would see it now. But I asked you about that because I felt already that I am interested in seeing how energy can be translated into form.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Yesterday I thought about the way of how to translate you into physical solidity. I wanted to ask you, when I think that what I create is like a story that I create, I thought that I do it with you, too. I am not sure of how to express that. It is like a tool, as if I am feeling to be in a living story. When I am in a living story, then I can use my perception in a new way. If I would write a story, I would create more freely because I can create everything I would like to imagine. In the reality I so far was in, I did not think I can do this in that way.

ELIAS: I am understanding. This offers you the opportunity to manipulate your energy in different manners, move your attention in different directions, and therefore generate a different perception. It is a manner in which you allow yourself more flexibility and more freedom of movement. In a manner of speaking, what you are generating is allowing yourself a similar flexibility in your objective waking time framework as you do, and as many other individuals do, within their sleep dreaming state.

ANJULI: Oh I see, that’s the same. I was a little bit not really doubting, but it seems that this is not so much usual yet in the collective.

ELIAS: Correct, but I may express to you an acknowledgment, for you are allowing yourself to engage imagination, which is also an avenue of communication. This is what I have...

ANJULI: In the past days I was thinking about how to translate you into form. I tried to feel your energy, to feel you more intensely or to be more there, or feel you to be sitting next to me. It worked also, but with this new way I do it as if I am in a living story. In this story, you would, of course, be already translated into solid form. You would be at the Alterversity, and I would feel that is exciting, maybe he will visit me.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: I had the feeling that with this I am including into my perception the readiness to create this in a surprising way, not by sitting there and thinking how to make it.

ELIAS: Yes. As I have stated, as an avenue of communication, imagination is quite real.

ANJULI: Oh, Elias that is interesting. Now I have a new feeling about that. That’s fascinating. (Elias chuckles) I am so fascinated, because you said I can create another focus as a splinter of myself, so in the days before I was a bit careful. I wanted to do everything right, similar as connecting with my Leslie-Myranda focus in an email.

ELIAS: Yes, I am understanding.

ANJULI: Yesterday, when I thought about this feeling to be in a story, this was much easier again. I discovered that my difficulties with that before was that I again felt this splinter to be another focus (Mary’s dog begins barking and continues to bark through out), and this focus felt sort of separate. When I feel that this is a story of myself and I don’t call it another focus... (The barking is much louder) Are you still there, Elias?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Is there a dog in your near?

ELIAS: Yes. (The dog continues to bark loudly) ANJULI: I am sending some playful energy to the dog. (Elias chuckles, and the dog still barks loudly, obscuring the audio) The dog does not like what I talk about. Yes, then my splinter is a part of my story, and this is me, is one essence, not several parts.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Although there are several parts, but it would be experienced as one.

ELIAS: Correct. (The dog quiets down)

ANJULI: Yes, and then you said that I can shift my attention into being another focus. This would mean that it can be like my Leslie-Myranda focus experienced that night when we were merged, when I felt to be me and her, and she felt to be herself and me?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: It can be like with my other-dimensional fluid focus who was visiting me. That was more like creating two bodies of two focuses, communicating with each other.

ELIAS: Yes, I am understanding.

ANJULI: Or I could, for example, move my attention into being Myr van Anderson and then I am suddenly running around as him?

ELIAS: If you are so choosing.

ANJULI: So he would then feel that I am within him, or would this then being like an exchange? He is then my focus and I am his focus?

ELIAS: Let me express to you that these are choices of experiences and not to be viewed so black and white, so to speak, or in an expression of rigidity, for there are many manners in which you may move your attention and generate different types of experiences. Remember that all of these individuals are you and you are all of them. Therefore, you may in one experience move your attention to another focus and that attention may be aware of the movement of your attention in association with it, or you may be manipulating your attention in a manner in which the other attention is not aware and you merely become the other attention.

ANJULI: Or I put my body there and then we have two bodies and I talk with them?

ELIAS: Yes, you may generate this also. There are many, many different types of expressions that you may be incorporating to generate different experiences.

ANJULI: Once I had my attention on being at my island and being with the parents of Myr, and then I wanted to be with my focuses Myr and Andre who were at the Alterversity at that time. I also wanted to be with my friend in the future, Timothy/Eliantan, and I also wanted to be in your dimension a little bit. I wanted to do all of that together, because I couldn’t choose one. I tried to do all of that at once. I had the feeling that Timothy/Eliantan is used to doing that, so I can gain some knowledge of how to do that through our counterpart action. So I can do several things at once?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: It is just that I am not used to do that, but I can train that?

ELIAS: Yes. This is a question of allowing yourself to move your attention and incorporate a flexibility with your attention.

ANJULI: Oh, Elias, and you can do all that, which I am just training! You can be all of your focuses and be aware of all of your focuses and do many things at once.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Right now you are aware what all of your focuses in your dimension are doing?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Oh, so interesting. Your focuses are doing something and at the same time know that, for example, the focus that is doing the energy exchange is doing an energy exchange with me?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: So they now are aware that I have my attention on all of them and that I talk with you about them?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: I give all of them an energy snuggle!

ELIAS: (Laughs) Accepted. (Pause)

ANJULI: Since we talked about my focus Leslie-Myranda, we are now creating excitement because I created the Eliasfamily email group and she is a part of that. We are very excited. When she joined yesterday, I felt sort of electrified. My body was tingling. Was that also some sort of a merge with her in addition to the excitement?

ELIAS: A recognition of the interconnectedness.

ANJULI: Yes, and I felt how Andre and Myr were supporting the two of us, because they are after all both together and they are in the same group, so they have the same experience as Leslie and I now have. Is this correct, that they are supporting us?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Myranda is such an interesting essence!

ELIAS: (Laughs) As are all essences!

ANJULI: Remember how I said that I am so interested in you and then you reminded me that the intimacy with self is the biggest joy?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Now I have got that. My Leslie-Myranda has two favorite colors; one is burnt orange and one is spring wheat green. Is one of them her focus color?

ELIAS: The first — the burnt orange is a focus color, yes.

ANJULI: Thank you. I had once an experience of hearing something like a book falling from a shelf. That was a very loud sound but there was nothing in my apartment falling from a shelf. There were two impressions, or it could even be both. First I thought it was another focus, because later when I told my mother about that she said that was Charley, without knowing what she means with Charley. I thought it could have been a future focus of myself who is probably called like that and which I heard. I also thought it could have been some playful action of the essences Patel and Dunadin.

ELIAS: Your first impression is correct.

ANJULI: Recently I was suddenly wet on my clothes and I thought that Patel and Dunadin were doing that?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Oh, that’s a fun, Elias! (Elias laughs)

A little bit on my list of focus impressions: Do I have a future focus whose name is Ennio Elban and whose mother has a hotel, not a big one? He is in Austria. He is not far away in the future, maybe still within this shift.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: I am playing with him a bit. Do I have a future focus in Sweden who is a member of a spiritual political party and whose name is Jana Pittsburgh? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: She could be a little bit later, not in the time framework of this shift.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

ANJULI: And a future focus with the name Nathan Forrester, and he is an actor?

ELIAS: In the theatre.

ANJULI: I tried to get the birthday of my focus Chantal Liberte and thought it is the 10th August 2010. (Pause)

ELIAS: Correct day, incorrect year. I shall encourage you to continue your investigation.

ANJULI: And Andrea Bergeron, is her birthday the 17th November 2280? (Pause)

ELIAS: I am acknowledging of your allowance of your impressions! You are correct.

ANJULI: I am trying to get the year of when I am connecting with her. I have the impression that the future people tend to look younger than the people with the same age would appear in our time. Is this correct?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

ANJULI: So for example, the parents of Myr decided to not necessarily age?

ELIAS: Not in the same manner in which you create that.

ANJULI: What does this mean?

ELIAS: They do engage an aging process, so to speak, but not in the same manner that you do now.

ANJULI: We in the collective do now.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: The time in which I connect with Andrea Bergeron, could that be 2322?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: There are two more impressions about future focuses and I am not so sure about them, so I would like to talk with you about the impressions. There is the name Ronja Redfield, probably calling herself also Ronja Robin, and probably writing children’s stories, fairy tales and something like that. Can that be?

ELIAS: Robin, yes.

ANJULI: Ronja Robin is her name, and she uses that for her stories?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: And her other name is Redfield? Actually, that is a bit difficult because I had the impression she is probably discovering something about her past or so. I am not sure with that.

ELIAS: I am understanding. The physical naming has been changed.

ANJULI: I feel more into that story of her. Could it be that she discovered she is adopted by other parents or something like that?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: I will feel into that. Another one would be a focus in Germany, Marie Waldner, and my impression is that she is from northern Germany, from Andernach, but is then later living in Bavaria. Can that be? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Oh, Elias! I am again surprising myself. I will continue to do that. That is fascinating. I see that I can trust my impressions much more and that there is always a reason when I have an impression.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: With this new discovery of how I can use my perception, I am going to create even more playfulness with you, Elias.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Very well!

ANJULI: I have so much fun with that!

ELIAS: (Chuckling) And we shall continue to play.

ANJULI: I think, Elias, all of those who are right now in my new email group of the Eliasfamily would like to give you their dear, dear greetings.

ELIAS: And you may extend my greetings also.

ANJULI: We are going to have a session with you for our group questions. We are so excited.

ELIAS: Very well, I shall be anticipating it. (Chuckles)

ANJULI: Oh, Elias, I love you.

ELIAS: And I offer my affection to you also, my friend. Continue in your playfulness and in your journey into many attentions. (Chuckles)

ANJULI: Yes, I’ll do that. After all, in my feeling of being in a story, you are my brother and my brother is aware of all of his attentions, so I have the same ability, too. That is how I use my perception. (Laughing)

ELIAS: Very well! And I continue today offering you encouragement.

ANJULI: Thank you. And a big, big, big hug, so to speak, an energy kiss, to Inmi-Elias.

ELIAS: Very well, it is accepted. To you in tremendous fondness, my friend, au revoir.

ANJULI: Au revoir, Elias.

Elias departs at 12:52 PM.

(1) Anjuli’s note: At this point, I decided not to pay attention to the dog any more.

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