Friday, November 8, 2002 (Private)

Participants: Mary (Michael), Wendy (Myiisha) and a new participant, Kelley (Toulaine)

Elias arrives at 4:29 PM. (Arrival time is 27 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

WENDY: Good afternoon, Elias. Nice to see you again. (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: Welcome. And how shall we proceed?

WENDY: Well, I would like to ask about the light phenomenon that’s going on in our house, when I’m not here mostly. (Elias chuckles) With Kelley, lights seem to be flashing on and off a lot. I’m wondering if you have anything to do with that.

ELIAS: Of course! It is merely a playful gesture.

WENDY: But never when I’m here. You’re playing with Kelley?

ELIAS: You need no introduction! (Chuckles)

WENDY: Because...?

ELIAS: You are already aware. I have been introducing myself to the small one, which has been well received.

WENDY: Very! And much appreciated. Do you have any questions, Kelley?

KELLEY: No.

WENDY: May I ask family and orientation for Kelley? And essence name?

ELIAS: Essence name, Toulaine, T-O-U-L-A-I-N-E (too LANE). Essence family, Zuli; alignment, Sumari; orientation, common.

KELLEY: You knew that already.

WENDY: Right. (Elias chuckles) I guess we knew that. Nothing that you want to ask?

KELLEY: What’s that mean, essence family?

WENDY: I’ll explain that later. There are nine families of consciousness.

ELIAS: Correct.

WENDY: I am Sumari.

KELLEY: What am I?

WENDY: You’re Zuli with Sumari alignment, so we get along. I want to ask a question for Mary.

ELIAS: Very well.

WENDY: She would like to know if her problems with her throat had anything to do with this phenomenon of speaking for you?

ELIAS: Partially, not entirely. But yes, partially — an affectingness within the blue energy center, which is the energy center in which I focus my energy in this exchange. Therefore, the volume of energy is channeled through that particular energy center, which is affecting of communication and what you term to be throat, yes.

WENDY: So a lot of energy is going through there. If she is careful about how she uses her voice, will that help?

ELIAS: Mindful, not necessarily careful. But yes, there may be, in a manner of speaking, an adjustment that may be incorporated in Michael’s energy to be less affecting, but he is also aware of his own manifestation in the participation of this affectingness. I may express that the affectingness of the vocal tones and the vocal cords alone is quite influenced by this energy exchange.

WENDY: While we’re on the subject of Mary/Michael, she got quite ill, as you are aware, and seems to be recovering very well. Do you have any suggestions for her about that, about bringing her energy more strongly into her body in a healthy way? I don’t really know how to say this, but...

ELIAS: I am aware.

WENDY: Maybe they are more suggestions for me than Mary, I don’t know! (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: Michael is already aware of how to be focusing and channeling his energy to be effective and has presented himself with an accurate awareness of what he has created and has efficiently moved his attention.

As I have expressed with other individuals previously, individuals generate choices at times which may not necessarily express comfort. This is not to say that they are not beneficial. Michael is aware of the benefit of his choice in manifesting this dis-ease that he has created and also has offered himself information in regard to paying attention to self, which I have expressed the importance and significance of this action. As the focal point, it is quite significant.

WENDY: It works. It works for me, too.

ELIAS: It is significant that he is aware of self and pay attention in the engagement of this phenomenon, for he has been designated as a focal point, therefore as an example.

WENDY: So it’s important that Michael understands what’s happening to himself, you’re saying?

ELIAS: Yes, and pay attention to self and what he is creating and HOW he is creating.

WENDY: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome. And what are YOUR concerns?

KELLEY: Mine? Were you really Oscar Wilde?

ELIAS: In one focus of attention, yes. (Chuckles)

WENDY: She finds this hard to believe.

ELIAS: It matters not. (Chuckles)

WENDY: (To Kelley) That’s it?

ELIAS: And what are your concerns, Myiisha?

WENDY: I have lots of concerns. It’s hard to sort out. In this interaction with Mary and with you, I feel like I’m doing something fairly purposeful but I have trouble knowing what I’m doing. It’s like part of me is doing something and the other part doesn’t know what it is, but I’m pleased with it. I’m just a little bit mystified about how I ended up here, talking to you in my house. (Elias chuckles) I’m delighted, but it’s a kind of... I’m a little confused.

ELIAS: You have drawn this to yourself, and you do incorporate the ability and the strength to move in this direction.

WENDY: I think sometimes I don’t want to take responsibility for my ability and my strength, or I don’t want to use it for some reason. I’m trying to clear that out a little more and understand what I’m doing.

ELIAS: In shifting, many individuals move into a position of recognizing the strength of their individual power within their energy, and at times this may be fearful temporarily, for you are unaccustomed to channeling that energy and directing it and directing of yourselves without authorities and trusting yourselves.

WENDY: There is a big temptation to make YOU be an authority.

ELIAS: I am aware.

WENDY: And I have not wanted to do that. But at the same time, it is very helpful to have guidance.

ELIAS: I am aware, which is quite acceptable temporarily. Were it not so, I would not be speaking with any of you.

WENDY: You know, I wanted to ask you about that. To me, your role appears as one of a midwife. Is that at all accurate?

ELIAS: Quite acceptable analogy.

WENDY: This is a kind of funny question after the group session where you talked about emotion, but I’m wondering if you like doing it or how you like doing it?

ELIAS: (Chuckles) It is purposeful. As I have explained previously to Lawrence and Olivia — which you are all privy to the information — it is a response to a request.

WENDY: And it is fun for you?

ELIAS: This is relative. In association with your idea of fun, it is moot. But in association with a different type of expression of fun in consciousness, yes.

WENDY: Purposefulness maybe is fun?

ELIAS: Yes.

WENDY: Value fulfillment in Seth’s words, I guess?

ELIAS: Yes.

KELLEY: Don’t you get bored of like talking to so many people?

ELIAS: No.

KELLEY: Don’t you just want to be like, “Oh, go figure it out for yourself”? (Elias chuckles)

WENDY: Sometimes he is.

ELIAS: I may say to you, at times individuals may be incorporating laziness, and I am not offering much information and am quite encouraging of their movement within themselves and their exploration of information within themselves. But I may also say that generally speaking, individuals are quite genuine in their quest for information and their curiosity and their desire to be shifting without conflict and without trauma, and therefore I offer information.

KELLEY: If someone asked you what the meaning of life was, would you be able to tell them?

ELIAS: “The meaning of life.” And may this be translated into the purpose of life?

KELLEY: I don’t know, kind of. I don’t want to know ‘cause I figure it’s something you gotta figure out for yourself. But if someone were to ask you, would you be able to tell them?

ELIAS: To experience and explore self — this is the nature of consciousness. It is your natural expression. Every manifestation that may be dreamed of is consciousness. Therefore as its natural movement is to be exploring and expanding in self-discovery, this also is the meaning of life, so to speak.

WENDY: I’d like to ask a question about the shift. I’ve read most of what’s been published of what Seth has said. He has said there have been other — well, this is in our understanding of time — there have been other civilizations on this planet who have gone through evolution and gone on to other realities. I’m wondering, at one point I seem to remember you saying that this shift is the first time this has been done. Have other civilizations gone through this shift of consciousness?

ELIAS: Not in that manner, no. This is a Source Event.

WENDY: Thank you. I wanted to also read something from the Bible that Paul said. It’s in I Corinthians, chapter 13, but that doesn’t matter too much. He says, “When I was a child my speech, my outlook, and my thoughts were all childish. When I grew up, I had finished with childish things. Now we see only puzzling reflections in a mirror; but then we shall see face-to-face. My knowledge now is partial; then it will be whole, like God’s knowledge of me.” Is he talking about the shift in consciousness? Was he talking about that? Other translations call it a veil.

ELIAS: I am aware.

WENDY: Okay, I thought so.

ELIAS: Yes and no — not necessarily of this Source Event of this shift in consciousness, but of an action of it, of self-awareness. It is a translation associated with religious beliefs, which move the attention outside of self and set forth an idea of some entity which is greater than yourselves, larger, more powerful, but that you incorporate an aspect of, so to speak, and therefore may face in this greater power and view your reflection as being generated by it. This is a translation filtered through a religious belief. But in actuality, it is fairly accurate in association with self. You ARE God, for there is no higher power or greater power than yourself.

WENDY: In another translation he says, “I will know as I am known.”

ELIAS: Correct.

WENDY: Which sort of is saying he will know at the way God knows.

ELIAS: Or rather you shall know as you generate the state of remembrance and as you are known to yourself.

WENDY: Have you talked a lot about Source Events before, in the digests?

ELIAS: I have offered explanations, yes, and I have discussed.

WENDY: I don’t want to go over old ground, but I guess I didn’t quite appreciate the significance of the fact that this shift that we are involved in now is actually a Source Event. That is kind of a big deal. (Laughs)

ELIAS: In your terms, quite! (Chuckles) As you are aware, a Source Event may not be entirely or fully translated into your physical reality, but a significant expression of it shall be and is being translated into your physical reality. You have incorporated one hundred of your years in the subjective movement of it, and now you incorporate the objective insertion of it into your actual reality.

WENDY: How are we doing?

ELIAS: (Chuckling) In your terms, quite well.

WENDY: Really? I’m seeing signs of trauma.

ELIAS: Quite! Which I have been expressing from the onset of this forum that there is trauma associated with this shift. Masses of individuals choose not to be objectively physically participating.

WENDY: So they disengage?

ELIAS: Correct.

KELLEY: They die?

WENDY: Yes.

ELIAS: And collectively choose manners in which it shall be acceptable and understandable to be massively disengaging.

WENDY: Because they don’t want to experience the trauma?

ELIAS: Correct. This is not to say that these essences are not continuing to contribute an expression of energy to be accomplishing this shift.

WENDY: But they don’t want to be in this physical reality doing that?

ELIAS: Correct.

WENDY: But it is possible to go through this without experiencing excruciating trauma?

ELIAS: Correct.

KELLEY: I’m gonna do it!

WENDY: (Laughs) Yeah. Which is why you’re talking to us?

ELIAS: Correct. And look to your small ones as examples also, for they shall be experiencing much less trauma. They have chosen to be manifesting in what you term as the later throes of the subjective movement and incorporating more time framework in the objective insertion. Therefore, their awareness is quite clear.

WENDY: I very much enjoy their point of view. (Elias chuckles)

KELLEY: Is an essence a gender?

ELIAS: No.

KELLEY: ‘Cause you call Mary “Michael” and you refer to her as him. So is “him” associated with Michael?

ELIAS: The essence name is a tone, which may be partially translated within your languages as a name. Within your physical dimension, this physical dimension, the design of this physical dimension incorporates sexuality, and sexuality incorporates gender. In association with the energy which is inserted, so to speak, in this physical reality by an essence, they choose to be associated more strongly with one gender or another, generally speaking. There are some essences that do not choose or do not incorporate a preference in association with gender and this particular reality, but generally speaking, you may term to be most essences that manifest in this physical reality do incorporate a preference of gender. Therefore in acknowledgment of that preference, I may refer to an individual as he or she.

WENDY: This is a she?

ELIAS: Yes.

WENDY: I am a she?

ELIAS: Yes.

WENDY: That is a big surprise to me. (Elias chuckles) Although everything you said to me, except that I was common... (Elias laughs loudly) Why did you do that?

ELIAS: For this is quite playful and also quite clearly associated with the discussion! (Chuckles)

WENDY: I like the name, Myiisha, a lot, but it’s hard for me to feel that it’s me. Can you give me an idea of why that is?

ELIAS: This is associated with this particular focus, this manifestation. For the energy that you project in this particular manifestation, in your terms, leans more heavily to the male energy.

WENDY: Even though I chose to be a female?

ELIAS: Correct. But your choice of energy expression and your preference in this particular focus is more dominantly male.

WENDY: But my whole essence in physical reality is more dominantly female?

ELIAS: The energy of, yes. Which I may express to you, if you are allowing yourself to tap into that energy, it may be helpful in your movement in shifting, for this is another aspect of this shift in consciousness, shifting from the expression of male energy, the intellect, to the female energy, intuition.

WENDY: It was an enormous, wonderful surprise, how I felt when I had a child.

ELIAS: Yes. (Chuckles)

WENDY: Would that be because there’s all this female energy really in my essence?

ELIAS: Yes.

WENDY: It seems like I almost fight it.

ELIAS: It is a preference within this particular focus to be experiencing the movement of the male energy, and in this you have chosen other preferences.

WENDY: Can you go on?

ELIAS: Your sexuality is a choice.

WENDY: Yes.

ELIAS: It is an objective choice.

WENDY: I agree.

ELIAS: It is not a choice that you incorporate subjectively prior to your manifestation and therefore generate a predestination. But many individuals may choose to be physically manifesting in association with one gender and also choose to be exploring that physical gender in association with the energy expression of the other gender, which is quite influencing of your preference in physical expressions in association with certain aspects of sexuality or sexual preferences, for sexuality incorporates all of your physical reality. Any physical manifestation is associated with sexuality.

WENDY: So, some of this, what I’m doing, has to do with being soft?

ELIAS: In what respect?

WENDY: Soft incorporating both male and female energy?

ELIAS: No, all individuals incorporate both male and female energy. This orientation of soft is associated with perception, how you perceive. As I have offered previously, it is, figuratively speaking, a lens, a hue, through which you view all of your reality and a specific expression of energy associated with HOW you view your reality and how you interact with it.

WENDY: It’s interesting to me that sexuality in the way that you define it for us is so bound up with perception. It makes a lot of sense to me. It’s been very helpful to me. But it’s not the way it’s been defined before by us. For me, my perception feels very bound up in my sexual expression. And that’s been helpful too, as much as I do understand orientation. (Chuckles)

I think maybe I will just ask for any suggestions you might have for us and then we’ll end. (To Kelley) Do you have something you want to ask? I’m sorry — go ahead.

KELLEY: This is really off subject, but people who cut themselves and stuff, like they don’t want to commit suicide but they just do that and they’ve kind of lost faith in life. Why is that? How could you help them?

ELIAS: In actuality, this is several questions and several directions. (Chuckles) Individuals that wound themselves do not necessarily express a loss of faith in life, but some individuals incorporate this type of action as an expression of experience. Let me express to you, it may be difficult to express one reason, for this type of action may be incorporated by many different individuals and experienced in many different manners.

Some individuals incorporate an action of what you might term to be mutilation of the physical form and their perception may be a pleasurable experience, or it may be viewed within their beliefs as an expression of beauty, or it may be incorporated in their perception as a manner in which to express themselves and gain attention of other individuals.

Some individuals incorporate this action as an experience to physically feel. Some individuals do incorporate trauma in their experiences within their focus, and in association with that trauma they disengage their ability to feel — not necessarily disengaging their emotional communications, but they disengage their ability to physically feel. Therefore, they incorporate an action which is extreme to allow themselves to physically feel.

Now; as to your question in how you may be helpful — for I am recognizing that your questions move in the direction of those individuals that you perceive to be hurtful to themselves intentionally and incorporating unhappiness — and how you may be helpful in the most efficient manner, is to be an example and most importantly to be accepting, which is quite challenging. For were you to incorporate an interaction with an individual that engages this type of action and you objectively are aware of their participation in this type of action, it may be quite challenging to be accepting of their choice and not to attempt to fix.

But in acceptance of their choice, you provide an energy of example, for their expression is a lack of acceptance of themself. If you are expressing acceptance, this is immediately received by any individual. Energy is always received much more quickly and efficiently than any other type of communication. Individuals sense and feel energy and recognize its genuineness. Therefore, it is quite significant to be expressing acceptance, but in genuineness.

And to be accepting of another individual you MUST be accepting of yourself. I may express to you, this is the point of the straight little sapling story that I have offered previously, and is applicable in ALL situations with ALL individuals.

WENDY: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

WENDY: That was very interesting. Okay, so, it’s just about time. I don’t want to tax Mary. We’re kind of done, I think. Are we?

KELLEY: Where does your accent come from? ‘Cause you can’t seem to decide what kind of accent to be going with. (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: It is not defined by one language or culture. In a manner of speaking, it may be associated as a blend of many cultures and many languages.

WENDY: He’s been around.

ELIAS: Quite! (Chuckles)

WENDY: So we’ll end, but I just want to ask if you have any suggestions for either of us or even Michael before we say goodbye.

ELIAS: Merely to pay attention to yourselves and steer your own ships, and do not attempt to steer other individual’s ships.

WENDY: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

KELLEY: Thank you.

ELIAS: And you are welcome also. I shall be anticipating our future interaction, perhaps even frequently. (Chuckles)

WENDY: I hope so.

ELIAS: We shall become great friends, as we already are. And I shall continue to play!

KELLEY: You have fun!

ELIAS: I shall! And perhaps so shall you!

KELLEY: Maybe I will!

ELIAS: And I am aware of your “evil eye.” (Wendy laughs)

KELLEY: It didn’t seem to work out that well, though.

ELIAS: I am unafraid. (Laughs)

KELLEY: I’ll just keep practicing. You watch.

ELIAS: You may not be haunting a ghost! (Laughs)

KELLEY: I can haunt whomever I please!

ELIAS: And perhaps I shall haunt you also!

KELLEY: That wouldn’t be very nice!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! To you both in tremendous affection and friendship and fondness, au revoir.

KELLEY: Bye!

WENDY: Au revoir.

Elias departs at 5:14 PM.

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