Wednesday, October 2, 2002 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Frank (Ulra)
Elias arrives at 11:06 AM. (Arrival time is 18 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

FRANK: Oh, good morning! It’s so good to speak to you again!

ELIAS: Ha ha! And how shall we proceed?

FRANK: I guess I’ll start by asking you, first of all, I know Michael obviously had her own reasons for the break in the sessions here, but I presume that I also created this myself. I’m just curious as to what the reason is for that on my part.

ELIAS: And what is your impression?

FRANK: I thought about this coming into today, and I thought maybe I felt like I was using Elias as a little too much of a crutch and I should sort of be on my own for a little while. I don’t know; other than that, I’m not quite sure.

ELIAS: Not necessarily incorporating myself as what you term to be a crutch, but you have offered yourself a time framework in which you allowed yourself to reflect and to assimilate more fully this information and our interactions, and also to experience appreciation.

Many times within your physical reality, individuals may be generating a relationship with another individual or with an essence such as myself, and as you move into familiarity with the relationship, the individuals do not notice their appreciation as much as they perhaps did in the time framework in which the relationship appeared new. Therefore, as we have been speaking of genuine appreciation prior to this interruption of sessions, this has offered you an opportunity to examine genuine appreciation and allowed you to experience that expression, and therefore also allows you to associate that appreciation with self, not merely with other individuals or with other relationships.

If you are appreciating of other relationships, this is a reflection that you are also appreciating of yourself. This is the opportunity that you have offered to yourself, to reflect upon the information that you have offered to yourself that you have shared with myself, and to assimilate and appreciate the wonder of your reality rather than continuously questioning your reality and viewing your movement through it as not adequate enough. In allowing yourself to reflect and to appreciate yourself and other individuals, you alter your perception and you infuse your reality with a newness and a freshness, which also generates a new motivation and eagerness in your movement. Are you understanding?

FRANK: Yes, yes, and I see that. I see what you’re talking about.

Let me ask you this. The last time we talked objectively... I assume we’ve been in subjective communication since our last conversation.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: The last time that we spoke objectively, it was a very short conversation because Mary got sick very shortly after we started the session. We talked for only about five minutes, and during that five minutes you gave me one piece of information — I think it was an interpretation of a dream I had. The session could have been cancelled completely or we could have had it, but instead what occurred was you gave me this one piece of information that had to do with changes, as you had described, in the familiar interactions within my immediate family.

I guess the question I have is, was there a reason why I just got that one piece of information, number one, and number two, I don’t see any evidence of what you described having happened in the four or five months since we talked. Did I miss it or did things change, or is it still to come? What’s going on there?

ELIAS: You have shifted. In this, yes, it was significant that the brief interaction occurred, and you are correct, many different scenarios may have occurred, but this is the scenario that did occur. In this, if you shall recall, we engaged conversation of potentialities and of paying attention. In this, you have shifted, and therefore you do not view the evidence, for you have altered the probabilities and this is the point.

Many times, my friend, individuals, and yourself also, offer yourselves information and ignore the information that you may offer yourself evidence. Subsequent to an occurrence, you sit with yourselves and you discount yourself and you express to yourself, “I KNEW this would occur! I expressed to myself, I offered myself an impression, and I did not listen,” and thusly you discount yourself. But you choose many times not to be listening to your impressions, and therefore you shall offer yourself evidence as a validation that your impression was correct. In the moments in which you do listen to your impressions and you allow yourself to move in association with them, you avoid outcomes that, in a manner of speaking, you think you do not want.

As an example, an individual may engage their vehicle and may offer themselves an impression: “If I drive a particular route to my destination, I shall encounter difficulty.”

Now; the individual may choose to ignore that impression and drive the vehicle in the route that the impression was concerning and shall encounter difficulty in passage.

Now; subsequently, the individual may express to themself, “I should not have engaged this route. I should have listened to myself for I knew that I would be encountering this difficulty in passage if I engaged this particular route to my destination.” But view what the individual has offered to themselves. This is the manner in which you validate that your impressions are real and that they are real communications.

Now; had the individual responded to their impression and chosen to drive the vehicle in another route to the destination, the ride may have been uninterrupted and no occurrence may have be expressed, and therefore the impression may or may not have been objectively acknowledged and recognized.

If the individual is genuinely paying attention to themselves and trusting themselves, they shall acknowledge their impression and shall not need evidence that they have been listening to themselves or that their impression was quite real. But this type of trust of your own communications to yourselves requires practice, for it is much more familiar to doubt yourselves and to doubt your communications and the validity of them. In this, as an individual trusts and moves with an impression, but is not necessarily genuinely paying attention to what their communications are and rather partially trusting and allowing themselves to follow their communications, you do not present yourself with the physical evidence of what you have created or what you have avoided.

Therefore, generally speaking, individuals may express, in like manner to yourself this morning, “We engaged conversation. I view no evidence of what we discussed.” For partially you are paying attention, partially you are following your impressions, but partially you are not paying attention for you are not objectively recognizing your active participation in listening to your impressions and following those impressions.

FRANK: I think I understood the communication.

ELIAS: And what is your understanding?

FRANK: Well, I don’t know. The communication had to do with changes in the family and maybe the removal of people in the family, that sort of thing.

ELIAS: Correct, which is what I am expressing to you. Partially you are listening, partially you are paying attention, but in the moment in mundane actions you may not necessarily be objectively aware of how you are steering your energy to be avoiding certain conflicts or complications.

FRANK: You’re saying that it happens, in my terms, in an instant, and in that instant I’m not aware of it.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: That all makes sense. That makes a lot of sense.

ELIAS: But also, my friend, acknowledge yourself, for regardless of whether you are objectively aware of how you are steering your energy through your attention, you are listening to your impressions and you are allowing a flow of energy, which is generating more of an ease, less conflict and less friction, so to speak.

FRANK: I understand. I guess I feel validated in terms of my control over everything that’s happening.

ELIAS: Correct. I am understanding.

FRANK: My realization of my control maybe is a better way to put it.

ELIAS: Or that you direct it. (Laughs)

FRANK: That’s a better way to say it. That’s very interesting. As you know, I’ve been sort of sitting here watching and waiting, sort of like waiting for Godot. (Elias chuckles)

These are questions I had from way back in that last conversation, so maybe some of them are irrelevant now. Right before that last conversation, I had another dream that seemed significant to me. I was walking down some kind of a pier, and I looked in the water and saw a snake. This snake rose up and was right in front of my face and had a real menacing look on its face. I was afraid of it, so I grabbed it by the throat and I slowly strangled it. I remember it took a long time but eventually this snake died. I’m very curious as to what that dream is conveying to me.

ELIAS: And what is your impression?

FRANK: Maybe I should be ready for that question! (Elias laughs) Well, the snake obviously represents something I’m afraid of or something that I feel I need to overcome, that I’m sort of working towards, but it’s taking a long slow time to do it.

ELIAS: Not necessarily one particular thing, so to speak, but rather it is a representation of threat, any expression that may be viewed as threatening or perceived as threatening. In this, you have offered yourself the imagery of viewing the threat in any manner and allowing yourself to be confronting that threateningness and, in your terms, overcoming that, offering yourself information that you do incorporate the ability and the strength to be, in a manner of speaking, overpowering those beliefs that influence the perception of threat.

Many times individuals associate beliefs as being strong and overpowering of themselves, almost to the point in which there is a slight perception that a belief may almost incorporate a form or be an entity. In this, as the association is held that a belief is almost an entity, it is allowed to acquire its own energy, almost as separate from yourselves, and that reinforces this perception that beliefs may be overpowering of you.

Therefore in this dream imagery, you have presented this entity of threateningness in all of its expressions and the belief that is associated with threateningness, and incorporated that into an actual entity, a snake, which allows you to physically encounter it rather than experiencing it as some elusive strength of power that may be overcoming of yourself. In this manner, you offer to yourself specific imagery that allows you to view this association and allows you to confront the entity and offers you a validation of your own strength and that you do incorporate the powerfulness to be overcoming, in your terms, those expressions that seem to incorporate the ability to control you.

In actuality, they are aspects of you or a part of you, but this is not how they are perceived, and therefore you generate imagery to reinforce yourself and your movement in association with strongly expressed beliefs. And you are correct, this requires attention and some effort for a time framework as you practice, but you also offer yourself what you deem to be a favorable outcome.

FRANK: I think I sort of moved in that direction since that time, which was several months ago.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: At least I feel that way. I feel like I’m progressing in terms of how I deal with beliefs and perceptions, as well.

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: I can’t think of any specifics right now, but I can say that I think there have been several instances where I have modified my perception just by recognizing that whatever’s occurring is based on a perception and that’s all up to me, and sort of adjusting my direction.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: So I feel good. I feel like there’s a lot of progress going on there. (Elias chuckles)

That brings me to the next thing I want to ask you about, and that is that during the summer there was a morning when I woke up and I was thinking about perception and how I control my reality. Then I fell back to sleep or sort of a semi-sleep state. The next thing I knew was that it felt like I was being held down by two men who I sensed that I knew. In other words, I didn’t objectively know who they were, but it was my sense that I know who these people are. They were not necessarily malevolent, but they were holding me down. They even had sort of a humorous attitude, but they were keeping me down. I asked them to release me, but they wouldn’t. Then finally at some stage I realized that this is not occurring objectively, and then the whole thing sort of dissipated and I was able to move. I’m curious as to what that’s all about.

ELIAS: Very well. I may express to you, this is imagery of different aspects of yourself.

Now; the reason that they appear to you to be playful and not malevolent but are also restraining you is associated with perception. For you, in like manner to many, many other individuals, incorporate aspects of yourself that you do not necessarily like. Generally speaking, most individuals express this distinction of certain aspects or elements of themselves or their personality that they like or appreciate or prefer, and other aspects or expressions of their personality that they dislike.

This is significant in relation to the movement of acceptance, for whether you like or dislike different aspects of yourself is irrelevant. What holds significance is that you recognize that they are all expressions of you. This is quite significant, for there is no aspect of you, there is no expression of you, that cannot be purposeful and incorporated in preference if it is being directed in a manner that is purposeful and is beneficial in a manner which you want it to be. All of your expressions are beneficial. But this is the point of being accepting of all of yourself and also intentionally objectively allowing yourself to direct how you move and accomplish what you want.

Now; you have presented to yourself colorful imagery, for you have divided yourself into different aspects of you, therefore creating more than one you of you, and you have allowed yourself to view that the different aspects of yourself are not necessarily dislikeable but that at times you may feel subject to them and not incorporating control. But this does not concern control. It is a question of acceptance, allowance of yourself to view different expressions of yourself, different aspects of yourself, and accept that and recognize that you may choose how to direct those expressions.

Many individuals within your physical reality may express emotional signals or emotional communications with certain types of energy releases — crying, per se — and many individuals view this action of weeping as an expression of themselves that they do not like.

Now; they may also view that they do not incorporate control over that action in certain situations, which is quite incorrect. But it is not a question of control; it is a matter of viewing within the individual that this is an expression that is an aspect of their personality and it is not bad. Although it may be uncomfortable at times, if it is accepted, the intensity of it is much less, and the individual also allows themself choice in the engagement of that type of action.

If the individual is expressing to themselves, “I recognize that I am generating an action of weeping and I have held a disdain for that action previously, but I am recognizing that this is merely another expression of myself and I am accepting of that, and it is unnecessary to alter this or to force myself to change this expression and generate a different expression,” the intensity of it shall be dissipated, and the individual may perhaps even allow themselves to appreciate that expression that was held in disdain previously.

Another individual may express that disdain with an aspect of themselves that expresses a temper. That energy may be directed in purposeful manners, but most individuals are unfamiliar with themselves and how to direct their energy and how to direct their perception through movement of their attention, and this is what you have offered to yourself in this imagery.

FRANK: That’s a lot! (Elias chuckles)

Let me move on to another dream I had fairly recently, quite recently in fact. In this dream, my wife and I were looking for a dead body out on our front yard. It was during the winter and there was snow on the ground. I dug through the snow, and what I found was a leg and a foot sticking up. It was frozen, like somebody had been buried head first in the ground and all that was sticking up was this leg and foot. After I discovered that, I noticed that there was what I would call a docile but what I considered a suspicious man sitting right next to us.

This one has me pretty confused; I’m not sure what this is all about.

ELIAS: And you have offered yourself no impressions?

FRANK: I think it obviously has something to do with the relationship between myself and my wife. Other than that, I’m just not sure.

ELIAS: You are correct; it is associated with yourself and your partner.

Now; examine carefully what you have expressed: the individual which is near to you and appears docile but suspicious. What may you offer to yourself in impressions and information, concerning not another individual but interaction between you and your partner? For the individual in the imagery is a representation, it is not an actual individual.

FRANK: That there is either some belief or some aspect of myself that is somehow involved in all this or interfering in our relationship?

ELIAS: Not necessarily creating interference, but you are offering yourself information concerning your perception and how that is influencing your reality and what you create in association with your partner. For you do incorporate a calmness, but you also incorporate a suspicion that your partner shall not be expressing the same as yourself.

You are offering yourself information and you are genuinely attempting to apply this information within your movement. You also incorporate a desire to share this information with your partner and for your partner to be generating the same type of action as yourself. But this is also suspect, for you view objectively differences.

Now; this is significant, for this is associated with the imagery that you present to yourself of the partial body in the snow, for the representation of the partial body is that of the relationship. The relationship is represented as a form, as a body. You present to yourself merely a partial body. In this, you are expressing to yourself the identification that as you continue to generate the expectation of your partner altering their direction and altering her expression to be the same as you, you are denying the rest of the body of the relationship, for acceptance of the difference allows for the appreciation of the fullness of the relationship and therefore manifests the entirety of the body.

FRANK: So the message is to be more accepting of differences.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Once again! Ha ha ha! This is a continual process, my friend. It is not a situation in which you shall arrive at the destination of acceptance and therefore you shall incorporate no need of generating it any longer. It is a process.

FRANK: I accept that! (Both laugh) Very good. Enough with the dreams. I have some concrete objective events that I want to ask you about.

ELIAS: Very well.

FRANK: First of all, in one of the two businesses that I’m involved with, which we’ve discussed in the past, I’ve talked about making it bigger. A lot of things have happened over the last two months in that regard, but one of the things that’s not happening is that basically I have to develop some written narratives in order to move this thing forward, and I just can’t seem to get started on writing this business plan. For whatever reason, I can’t seem to get started on doing it, and I would appreciate your insights as to why.

Before you ask me my impression, I’ll tell you that I think that it’s two-fold. Number one, it’s this concept that we’ve discussed before, that when I have such a big project instead of starting with the first step, I just get paralyzed and don’t do anything. The second part of it, I think, probably has to do with some indecision on my part as to whether I want to do the whole thing or not. I guess what I’m asking is, can you validate if that’s accurate or not, or is there more to it, or is there more you can tell me to sort of help me along with this?

ELIAS: Yes, your impressions are correct, and I may also express to you the reminder that you have been generating movement into an expression of creating your own rules and not necessarily continuing to be compliant with established rules of how you should be generating certain actions. Therefore you also express resistance to actions that are familiar to you in association with old rules.

Therefore I may express to you, allow yourself a time framework in which you may contemplate how you may incorporate playfulness in your own rules in how you shall generate your presentment, not necessarily in the manner which you have previously. Allow yourself your creativity rather than incorporating the chore.

FRANK: In other words, I can find a different way to do it that I enjoy as opposed to one that I find to be drudgery.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: So I don’t need to do this!

ELIAS: Not necessarily.

FRANK: I know we talked about this before, but could we talk about the second concept that I’ve expressed? I’m just not sure if I want to do it or not, and I have very mixed emotions about it. If someone asked me objectively, “Is this what you want to do?” I feel very strongly, yes, I do want to do it. But I know somewhere deep down that reluctance is there, because I haven’t done it. Could you sort of help me through this a little bit?

ELIAS: Very well. What are you expressing to yourself? What emotional communications do you offer to yourself?

FRANK: I think what I’m expressing — I’m not sure if this will answer your question directly or not — but I think what I’m expressing is that I want a bigger business, I want the things that go with that, but on the other hand I’m pretty happy the way I am right now, so I don’t want to lose aspects of my current life and way of doing things.

ELIAS: Therefore, what do you view to be the threat? Ah, your snake, once again! (Both laugh)

FRANK: Where is that damn snake? Let me go strangle it! (Elias laughs) So it’s the belief that I can’t have both together. Is that it?

ELIAS: Partially.

FRANK: Or the perception?

ELIAS: Partially. What is another aspect of the threat?

FRANK: That once I do it, I can’t change it.

ELIAS: Partially, and...? (Slight pause) And that you shall incorporate more work and less fun, which is entirely your choice. You may incorporate both. You may generate allowing yourself to enlarge your business and not incorporate more work. It is merely a matter of paying attention to yourself and allowing yourself to be creative. You may also increase your business and not decrease your interaction with your family.

FRANK: Yeah, those are all things that are there. So those are the perceptions that I need to adjust.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: Well, then let me ask you about the next one. Again, I think it’s something we’ve talked about before, and I think I kind of know where this one is going. As we’ve discussed before, I actually have two businesses, and the second business involves an investment fund that I don’t actually control the results of, at least objectively; that’s what one would say. It just doesn’t seem to be going anywhere. It actually has the potential to provide me with a lot of money with very little work, but that hasn’t happened.

Since our last extended conversation, I have focused on this perception concept and the realization that even though it seems like objectively I have no control over it, I do have control over it. But I obviously haven’t quite moved that perception yet, or at least if I have, it’s just starting to happen right now. So again, can you shed any light on this? What’s going on there?

ELIAS: This is a matter of trust of yourself, not necessarily an outward physical expression, that which you view as physical manipulation or control, but an actual movement of energy, an actual trust of yourself and that you do incorporate the ability to move energy and accomplish what you want.

This within your physical reality may be deemed slightly more difficult, for this is movement in energy and not solid form, not physical action or manipulation. This is not expressed through concentration objectively or an action that you view to be an actual physical action, such as “shall I meditate upon this subject?” or “shall I express affirmations and this shall move energy.” No.

This is an expression of trust: a lack of doubt, a direction of energy, directing your energy, perhaps incorporating brief translations of thought infrequently, but subsequent to the brief translation of thought concerning an identification of merely what you want relaxing within yourself, relaxing your energy, not doubting that you merely shall generate what you want and allowing that energy to accomplish that. There is no actual physical action that need be incorporated.

Now; at times you may recognize and identify the moments in which you are expressing doubt, and you may choose to dissipate that and to objectively express a trust of yourself and intentionally relax your energy, and this shall be quite effective.

FRANK: I kind of felt like I’m sort of moving in that direction already, but maybe I’m inaccurate in that assessment.

ELIAS: You are not inaccurate. This is not to say that you are accomplishing fully in what you want, and this is the reason that you have offered this question.

FRANK: I feel like I’m on the cusp of it occurring, that objectively it’s soon.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: Because I do think that I’ve been a lot more relaxed about the whole thing. As you’ve noted many times, this whole concept of moving perceptions and acceptance and all that sort of thing, it is a process that takes a while. I think I’ve accepted that and I don’t degrade myself for not being right on top of it all the time. I just feel like I’ve been more relaxed about it and like it’s going to occur.

ELIAS: Correct, and you have presented this question merely for validation.

FRANK: Exactly. See, a lot happens when you’re gone for a while!

ELIAS: (Laughs) Ah! But you have not shot yourself in your foot! (Both laugh)

FRANK: Time is getting short, so let me ask you a couple of quick ones here.

ELIAS: Very well.

FRANK: Since the last time we talked, I was playing on a baseball team and I ended up not playing much after that. I just didn’t feel like participating. I know when we originally talked about it that you had said that part of it was my fear of not doing as well as I felt like I should. But I kind of feel like there was maybe more to it than that by the end of the whole thing. Do you have any brief comments for me on that?

ELIAS: And your impression?

FRANK: Part of it was definitely what you had said earlier, and I think part of it was that I just felt that most of the rest of the team just wasn’t that good and I didn’t feel like playing with them for that reason.

ELIAS: And also you felt no need to prove yourself.

FRANK: But now they’ve asked me to come back next year, and I kind of feel like I think I should probably do that. But I’m a little confused or at least wondering if I’ll be in the same place again next year.

ELIAS: No, for your perception has altered. Previously you were expressing comparison of yourself and other individuals, and you were doubting of your ability. But subsequently you offered yourself information and more of an acknowledgment of yourself, and therefore felt no need any longer to be proving your abilities. Now you may choose to be participating merely as an expression of fun and not in seeking approval from other individuals or yourself.

FRANK: That’s what I was sort of thinking and wondering and looking for an answer from you for, because I wasn’t sure which one it was.

Next, Lizella — for some reason, during the summer her relationship with me and everyone else changed. She was much happier and light-hearted and interactive more harmoniously with everyone. Now suddenly she’s sort of changed back, maybe a month ago or so.

I think it’s got to do with the fact that she was putting a lot of pressure on herself. Then she injured herself in a sport, and I think that made her realize some things and maybe enabled her to interact more harmoniously. Now I think she’s sort of back to that previous mode of pressuring herself again. Is that an accurate assessment of what’s going on in terms of the relationship?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: So that’s something she just needs to work through.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: The last question I have for you is, in the transcripts I often see people ask you what their color is, their vibrational color or whatever. I don’t know what that’s all about or why color is significant. Also, I’d like to ask you, what is my color?

ELIAS: What is your impression?

FRANK: Some sort of a blue, like a light blue.

ELIAS: Aquamarine.

Now; the reason that individuals incorporate this questioning and are curious is that individuals recognize underlyingly within themselves that color is a truth; therefore, they seek information to associate truths with themselves. Not that you necessarily incorporate an objective understanding of how you may incorporate that and apply that within your focus — ha ha ha! — but it does offer individuals an association of themselves with truth, which is reinforcing to individuals.

FRANK: I can understand and accept that, but from my reality it just doesn’t seem very significant.

ELIAS: (Laughs) And there are other individuals that do not associate much significance to this expression either! (Both laugh)

FRANK: Elias, thank you so much! It’s so good to have you back and hopefully with renewed appreciation!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! Most definitely, my friend! We shall continue to be playful together, and I shall continue to be offering you energy of encouragement.

FRANK: Thank you. I look forward to our next talk.

ELIAS: As I do also, my friend. To you as always, in tremendous affection, au revoir.

FRANK: Goodbye.

Elias departs at 12:10 PM.

©2004 Mary Ennis, All Rights Reserved

---

Copyright 2002 Mary Ennis, All Rights Reserved.