Tuesday, October 1, 2002 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Seale (Seale)
Elias arrives at 11:47 AM. (Arrival time is 18 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

SEALE: Good morning.

ELIAS: We meet again.

SEALE: Oh yes, and sooner, right?

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! And how shall we proceed?

SEALE: Well, I have a couple of clarifying questions first.

ELIAS: Very well.

SEALE: I was talking with Dale about counterparts and how I feel. I don’t know, she and I are working on some issue or something. I thought we were doing counterpart action but she’s saying no, that we weren’t. So could you give me a little clarity about that?

ELIAS: Many times individuals may be experiencing similar actions within a particular time framework and they may allow themselves to objectively interact and connect with each other to be helpful to each other in each of their journeys and discoveries in relation to themselves. This is not necessarily counterpart action, but at times it may be.

Now; in this situation, you are allowing yourselves to be interactive and share ideas and experiences that offer you more information concerning yourselves and offer you a greater opportunity for clarity within yourselves, and in this you are not necessarily generating a counterpart action.

For the most part, counterpart actions occur between individuals continuously and are not necessarily an action of sameness, so to speak. There are parallel counterparts which do engage quite similar actions in specific time frameworks and may even generate almost the same experiences or generate the same subject matter that they may be exploring, but generate their exploration of it in different manners. They may obviously view that they are engaging the same subjects and exploring the same subjects.

But more so, counterpart action is engaged between different individuals that are expressing different qualities and different types of expressions between each other, which is the expression of one individual generating certain actions and experiences that the other individual may not. Not that these qualities or potential for experiences are not expressed within the one individual as an aspect of themselves, for they are, but the individual chooses to express them as latent qualities.

As an example, one individual may be engaging counterpart action with another individual. The first individual may be a quiet reserved personality that engages an activity of reading and incorporating much time framework alone. They may engage counterpart action with another individual that may be quite physically active. This is not to say that the first individual does not incorporate the quality in an aspect of themselves to be physically active and engaging activities with other individuals, but that quality within their personality may be latent and therefore it is not outwardly expressed.

SEALE: Dale and I are having this conflict about facilitating. I had wanted to meet with her... Well first, when you told me in the last session about pooling energies, were you talking about pooling like pool, P-O-O-L, or pulling, P-U-L-L? What is the definition of that, because I need to understand that first before I can explain or go to the other part.

ELIAS: Pooling, P-O-O-L.

SEALE: Okay, I got it right. I’m trusting myself and that’s what I thought I had. Using all of our energies together, right?

ELIAS: Yes.

SEALE: And I explained that to her. I don’t believe in the levels, right? So I was understanding that by she and I sharing, we’re equal. Her understanding was that she was facilitating me, but that wasn’t what I was asking for. I have a different explanation, that I wanted to get together to pool the energies to have that experience. Right now, in my head, I believe I can do it by myself, but somewhere I’m not believing it because it hasn’t happened.

ELIAS: Very well. I am understanding what you are expressing and your motivation. I may also express to you that the other individual may be engaging an action of facilitating, but this also is a sharing. It is not set apart as more than or greater than in action with the other person.

SEALE: I asked her about getting together and setting up a group and it was yes, but then later nothing happened. She didn’t talk to the other people. When I asked her about it, she said she was choosing differently because she felt like she would have to be the facilitator and she wanted money for that. To me, I’m not asking for facilitating — just share, whatever that means. I didn’t understand. We were having a block and I don’t understand what that is. It is like her idea of sharing is to be paid for it, or if we’re just talking about her belief about when she shares, she wants money for it.

ELIAS: This offers you the opportunity, Seale, to view differences in perception, and it also offers you another opportunity to be expressing acceptance of differences and allows you the opportunity to engage your creativity in expressing yourself and your choices in association with what YOU want.

In recognizing that individuals incorporate different perceptions which generate different definitions for different experiences and actions, you may thusly turn your attention to yourself, evaluate what you want and how you may express that and generate the type of outcome that you want to be accomplishing, and that your choice is not dependent upon or limited to the choices or perceptions of other individuals.

SEALE: Then I understand what I was doing. It’s like something was bad, because I just thought people could just come together and that was a good thing. That’s the other part — it’s like something is bad because I’m not trusting myself enough because I want to pool energy. You know what I mean?

ELIAS: This is not bad, Seale.

SEALE: Well, no, I know.

ELIAS: As I have expressed to you previously, this may be quite advantageous at times, for as you pool energy together you generate strength, and you also offer yourself reflections through other individuals, which allows you the opportunity to view yourself more clearly.

SEALE: That makes sense. Then yes, I did say that was a good thing.

There was a person who was hit and run, where a person was killed. I thought, “Oh wow, I’ll just try using my energies differently, because I have not done that stuff.” So I went out to the site but it’s (inaudible) for me right now. I trust more and this is a new area. But the person that I was with was just so freaked, I wasn’t at a calm space. I don’t know how to access that information. I mean, should I just be quiet? The other part of that is when we were up at the RV, I heard this sound. It sounded like this ding, this bell, that kind of sound. To me it was like a warning bell or like when those trucks are moving backward and they have to do that signal three times. It was something close to that. So I was trying to figure out if that was just a warning or if that was maybe the actual way that the person got hit. At the RV, I said we have to go back right away, because I knew he didn’t like being out-of-town when things were happening. The hit and run was out-of-town. I don’t know how to explain it; I just picked it up. Now I want to know if there’s something else I can do to help me get that information into objective.

ELIAS: What information are you seeking?

SEALE: Anything that will help them find who did it, because right now they don’t have a clue. I wanted to clarify if that warning sound was just my way of telling myself that something was going to be happening or if that was the sound of the actual vehicle.

ELIAS: I am understanding what you are expressing. My question to you is what is your motivation in this action?

SEALE: There are several. One is to show to myself that I can use the energies differently, give myself that experience. The other one is to help them find the person who did it.

ELIAS: Very well. What has this to do with you?

SEALE: Why did I create this? To give me the experience of being able to widen my understanding of reading or translating energy.

ELIAS: Translating energy, hmm. What do you perceive to be your payoff in engaging this action and how shall it benefit you to be...

SEALE: More validation that I can do it?

ELIAS: ...that you may tap into psychic information?

SEALE: No, unconsciousness, because it is there.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! But you are attempting to be tapping into energy concerning other individuals. My curiosity is what is your motivation in how this shall benefit YOU?

SEALE: It is just me trying to experience more of what translating energy is, to give me more opportunity or more validation.

ELIAS: Very well.

SEALE: And there’s more than that, and you know that. Part of that is Ed’s made a lot of fun about my belief about you. He makes a lot of remarks about me not being all there and all that stuff. He said he needed something concrete. So part of that is if I could do that, then that would give him something concrete that he can’t deny or can’t ignore.

ELIAS: This is the point, and this is what my inquiries are centering around.

SEALE: Oh, I knew that, but it’s both. It’s both of those things. And I get frustrated with myself. I probably could have just gone out there and got some kind of energy and allowed it to flow, but because of his presence and the doubting and all that, then I can’t do it! For some reason it’s not peaceful enough or safe enough for me to be able to do it.

ELIAS: Correct. For your motivation is to be proving to another individual, and therefore you block your own energy for you are seeking the approval of another individual to validate you.

SEALE: No, I hope not! I mean part of that, yes. But no, it’s the part about proving to myself that I can do it even with the doubting. That’s what’s getting me. I know that.

ELIAS: I am understanding, Seale, what you are expressing, but you also incorporate the other and that is what generates the block. I may express to you, were you to visit this location, so to speak, and engage yourself playfully merely to offer yourself information concerning how energy moves and what you incorporate as ability to tap into different types of information in a playful manner, the potential for accomplishment in that experience is great.

But once you introduce other factors into the scenario and your motivation is also to be acquiring approval outside of yourself and proving certain expressions to another individual that they may see and believe the same as you, this thwarts your effort, for your attention is no longer upon you. It is no longer playful; it is no longer merely curious. It is attempting to alter the expression of another individual. This is the reason that your clarity dissipates and you view yourself to be unable to access the information that you wish to access.

SEALE: Yeah, well I figured that out. I mean, I knew that, too. (Elias chuckles) As you know. Can you give me clarity about was it the warning sound or does that have to do with the vehicle?

ELIAS: Both.

SEALE: That answers that, because I got that, too. So the vehicle that uses that is a big vehicle.

ELIAS: Yes.

SEALE: Oh thank you, because I was trusting myself on that and that’s what I thought, both. Good. This is really good.

ELIAS: But this is also offering you individually a signal in imagery, a warning, so to...

SEALE: What the vehicle looks like?

ELIAS: No, a warning, so to speak, to yourself to be in check of your motivation and to move your attention back to you rather than projecting your attention outwardly in relation to other individuals and what their perception or beliefs may be.

SEALE: Oh, so there are three levels — the level of just being able to hear it and know that it was a warning and then to know that it’s that big size of a truck where they got hit? All that?

ELIAS: Yes, and yourself.

SEALE: Right. Oh, my goodness. This is very exciting!

ELIAS: There are many layers to the information that you offer to yourselves as individuals.

SEALE: I am understanding that. It’s just getting to all of them.

One of the focuses with Ed, is he white and I’m African-American?

ELIAS: Yes.

SEALE: And that’s why I call him boss-man? I mean, that was my way of playing to myself about understanding that focus?

ELIAS: Yes.

SEALE: Oh golly, I am getting this. This is so exciting! I was a female and he was a male?

ELIAS: Yes.

SEALE: There was a sexual relationship?

ELIAS: Intermittently.

SEALE: This is very nice, very interesting. So I am catching that.

Then you know about my Angel-babies, the baseball team?

ELIAS: What is your question?

SEALE: Well, I don’t understand how I do that. You say or I say we can create our reality, but I usually don’t work on that in a big way, but there again... And I don’t even know how that worked, actually. When Ed was making so much fun of me then I just told him his Mariners team was going to lose and the Angel-babies were going to win. It’s like, how or why did I say that? But they did, and that’s kind of scary.

ELIAS: And why are you frightened?

SEALE: Because I don’t want to create something out of anger or frustration. That’s scary to me. I want to be able to create it just simply because I want to create it. Do you know what I mean?

ELIAS: Yes.

SEALE: I’m scared of that power!

ELIAS: Ah! But this is the power that you possess. Therefore...

SEALE: I want to be able to use it not in the frustrating mode. I’m still afraid of it because the only time I will use it is when I get really mad or really frustrated. Then it’s like look out!

ELIAS: And this is an expression that you may view and explore. For in this, what you generate in those moments [is] determination and a focus of energy.

Now; you may manipulate energy with that determination and with that focus without the incorporation of frustration. It is merely a matter of paying attention to yourself and channeling that energy that you already possess in a focused manner, generating the same type of focus and lack of doubt as you do in time frameworks in which you may be agitated.

SEALE: That’s my key, the lack of doubt.

ELIAS: Correct. This is a situation of genuinely paying attention to you and your energy and how you are directing it within any given time framework or how you are not directing it.

SEALE: I was directing it in my relationship with Ed and then I start doubting again. Then I feel like I’m just kind of like in the middle of the ocean, just coasting, just floating or something. That’s how I feel right now, sort of.

ELIAS: Very well. This too is an opportunity for acceptance of you and of what you are creating in the moment. Not what you may be creating in the future or what you have created in the past, but allowing yourself the acceptance of what you are generating now in the moment. If that be to be experiencing yourself as if you were floating within your seas, so be it. Allow yourself that experience and the acceptance of it, and allow yourself to benefit from that experience in familiarizing yourself with you more.

Seale, you attempt repeatedly to force your energy to be expressing some other expression than what it is, and this is the key. Rest within yourself. Accept what you are in the moment rather than attempting to force your energy to reconfigure into some other expression that it is not.

SEALE: I don’t know if I understand that objectively.

ELIAS: You shall.

SEALE: I understand when I’m in it because of the struggle. It feels like a struggle or something.

Color, right? I am bright shiny gold. That’s what now, my focus color or essence color?

ELIAS: And you respond to myself.

SEALE: Essence.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Correct.

SEALE: So then focus color — is that like a purple? (Pause)

ELIAS: Heather.

SEALE: That’s a blue, right?

ELIAS: A combining of blue and violet.

SEALE: What’s that thing about my love for purple? I understand the hot pink but I don’t understand the purple.

ELIAS: Individuals may be drawn to certain color expressions and this may not necessarily be an indication of what is their signature color or their focus color. In actuality, many times individuals generate what you define as a favorite color or are quite drawn to certain colors and they may not be an expression of either their signature color or their focus color. You generate draws to certain colors in association with their vibrational qualities and how those are associated with what you generate in energy in your natural expression.

Now; violet colors vibrate at more rapid speed, so to speak, than other colors. Your draw to this color is associated with the type of expression of energy that you incorporate in association with this focus and your personality type, which also expresses a rapid type of vibrational quality, which also is expressed objectively outwardly in your personality type and the manner in which you generate experiences, and also with a particular type of expression of energy. Generally speaking, your energy is expressed in more of an intensity and rapid movements.

SEALE: People are amazed at my level of energy.

ELIAS: Correct.

SEALE: But I just thought that had to do with me doing what I like to do, having more freedom.

ELIAS: It also is associated with your natural expression of energy, which you generate in a particular type of speed, so to speak, which at times may be perceived by other individuals as a type of nervous energy, for your energy naturally moves in a more rapid expression. Therefore, you are also drawn to color vibrations that shall also be expressing more of a rapid type of movement.

SEALE: Oh good, that explains that, and yes, I am okay with my rapid movement. I understood that part.

The dogs yesterday — I started playing with them with the colors, particularly with green and pink. The one had more energy; you could see that. Both of them took in the energy. Did I need to do something other than what I did? Because I felt like the other one got more energy, but it still wouldn’t eat last night.

ELIAS: Be remembering it is the choice of the creature to accept, and the creature creates its own choices of its directions.

Now; you may offer energy to the creature in acceptance and without expectation, and as that is recognized by the creature, it may choose to be accepting of your interaction in association with color energies.

SEALE: I knew that the creatures were mirroring to the owner, because the first one was pretty sick but then it started coming back a little bit. Then the other one got really sick. She was asking about that.

ELIAS: You are correct but...

SEALE: I told her to look at what the dogs were mirroring to her or helping her to see what she was doing.

ELIAS: Correct. In this, you may offer what you recognize in energy, but remember it is the choice of the creature, in association with their involvement and interaction with individuals, how they shall respond.

SEALE: Yes, because I didn’t think they were going to respond too much differently if the owner didn’t...

ELIAS: Correct.

SEALE: ...recognize. I felt like once the owner recognized what was happening with her and did start paying attention to that, the dogs would get better.

ELIAS: Correct.

SEALE: When we’re focusing energy, I know the terminology but I don’t know what that actually is feeling-wise. Do you know what I mean?

ELIAS: What is your question?

SEALE: I either do it or I don’t do it, but I don’t know what it exactly feels like.

ELIAS: You are not expressing clarity presently. Therefore, define what you are experiencing confusion in relation to, and this may be helpful to you. For if you are not defining clearly what you are incorporating confusion concerning, you shall also not incorporate clarity in relation to the answer, so to speak.

SEALE: Okay, so exactly like the court thing. I was doing really good on that, creating what I wanted. Then I decided I wanted to work together with other people, with the ACLU, but then they changed all that. I just wanted it to be done, to get compensation and to have the outcome to be legally that those people be held accountable, so the law sticks. So now, here I am not wanting to do it that way and going back to the original thing of just wanting to do it through court. Obviously there is something I’m not doing, because it isn’t done. Right now it feels like I’m going back to what I originally was doing, which is doing it myself.

ELIAS: What do you want?

SEALE: I want to have all of that stuff erased from the file because it was just trumped up stuff in the first place. I want to have financial compensation for them not telling the truth, however that works, and for me not being able to work under the laws here with that. I want to be finished with it — not in two years. I want to be done with it quickly. (Pause)

ELIAS: And the expression of quickly holds importance to you.

SEALE: Well right, because I’ve already spent three years or two years kind of in limbo, or it felt like that to me. Maybe that was my belief about the court system taking its time. That goes back to me saying, “If I’m fully creating my reality then I can fully create me having my answer and not having it take three years or whatever.”

ELIAS: It is not a question whether you are fully creating your reality, for you are already. It is a question of whether you are objectively aware and intentionally directing and what your motivation is.

Now; I shall express to you in relation to your significance of quickness or swiftness, your movement may be expressed much more swiftly if you are turning your attention to you and not concerning yourself with forcing energy in relation to other individuals, once again.

SEALE: Or the court system.

ELIAS: Correct, which is comprised of other individuals.

SEALE: I’m understanding that part. I think that’s why I said no to the ACLU, because they had their own agenda. I do that better, focusing on me, when I’m doing it myself.

ELIAS: Very well. The point is to be paying attention to you and what you are choosing and what you are generating or doing in the now. If you are concentrating your attention upon compensation, your attention is not within you. It is being projected outwardly to other individuals in association with what you perceive to be owed to you, rather than paying attention to you and what you may generate now. This is the reason that you express this experience of being in limbo, for perceptually speaking, this is what you have created.

SEALE: I don’t have that transcript right in front of me right now — my intent was to translate energy.

ELIAS: And how are you expressing that now?

SEALE: I was doing that, I thought, yesterday with the dogs. Or like with that vehicle, the hit and run, getting that information, letting me access that information.

ELIAS: And in these experiences, although you continue to concern yourself with other individuals, you are partially allowing yourself to pay attention to you and directing your energy now rather than occupying your attention in other directions, concerning your courts and your society and expressing victim, which thusly you hold yourself in limbo. This is the point, to be paying attention to what you are generating now and acknowledging yourself and allowing yourself to be creating avenues of movement now, paying attention to you.

Even in association with your courts, you may be generating more movement and ease in paying attention to you rather than focusing on what you perceive to be what you should acquire in compensation. You may or may not generate that, but this is not the point. The point is that you are paying attention to you and not projecting yourself into the role of victim of your society, of your courts. If you view yourself to be owed any expression, you view yourself to be a victim, and as a victim should be compensated to rectify the wrong that has been inflicted upon you. This is victim.

For just as you expressed to myself, “If I am creating all of my reality, I should incorporate the ability to create the reality that I want.” Yes, you are correct. But you also have created all of the reality that you have experienced thus far, and that is no other individual’s responsibility but your own. This is the key. For in acceptance of that, you offer yourself tremendous freedom and you allow yourself to move much more easily and actually create what you want.

SEALE: I hear the words, but do I understand exactly what that means? I can still finish up the court case, right?

ELIAS: Yes.

SEALE: Without being victim?

ELIAS: Correct.

SEALE: But wasn’t that what I was doing originally, viewing that victim belief and then realizing that I want to create a court system where people can say what really happened with the situation and then the court supports that?

ELIAS: Correct. But you are generating a perception in association with your beliefs that once you have expressed one direction it shall thusly ever after be so and that is an absolute. That denies your freedom, for that type of expression locks you into one direction that may never change.

I may express to you, your very being is an expression of change. It is intrinsic to the nature of consciousness to be in continuous change. Therefore, if you generate the perception that once you have expressed one direction it shall absolutely be solidified and unchangeable, you have denied your own freedom and this is not the nature of reality.

Each moment incorporates outcomes and choices. Within one moment, you may be choosing to generate a different type of outcome with your courts. Within another moment, in your terms, you may choose to be revisiting an expression that you generated previously. You may be perceiving yourself to be a victim again, which offers you another opportunity to view yourself and to empower yourself. It is, in a manner of speaking, an avenue of practice.

SEALE: That’s what I’m saying I’m doing. I hear myself saying that. I was going to work with the ACLU and then they wanted to do something totally different than what I wanted. So then I said no and now I’m ready to go back and do it myself.

ELIAS: Correct.

SEALE: Gee, why can’t I just do it? (Elias laughs) Well, at least I’m recognizing that part.

ELIAS: Correct.

SEALE: Is that true then, me wanting to work with the other people, that I was saying that I needed them? I was addressing to that belief that I needed somebody else?

ELIAS: Partially, my friend, but also acknowledge yourself, for partially your motivation was to explore genuinely the mere action of sharing energies with other individuals and exploring the power that may be expressed in that type of action of pooling energies.

SEALE: Going back to that pooling part — because we only have a couple of minutes left — what is the method of doing that, because that’s what Ken asked me. What’s the definition of pooling? Just people desiring? Is there some kind of something physically we have to do?

ELIAS: All that you generate, in a manner of speaking, within your physical reality is physical. But in this, you are merely allowing yourself to move together with other individuals, choose a common direction or desire, and allow yourselves to generate energy in association with each other in balance and harmony. Which, if you incorporate a common interest or a common direction, incorporating your energies together in sharing and cooperation, you generate a powerful tool. Each individual in the group benefits from the strength of the combined energies.

In a manner of speaking, my friend, allow yourself to visualize an example. If you yourself encounter an immense boulder and you wish to move the boulder to another location, you may be incorporating the ability to move this boulder individually yourself, but you may not necessarily incorporate the actual physical strength to move it individually.

Now; you may engage several other individuals and as a group in mere physical strength and expression together, sharing that energy, you generate more of an intensive strength and may move the boulder to another location with your combined energies and cooperation. In the movement of the boulder, if all of the individuals are not directing their motion together and in the same direction, you shall not move the boulder for you shall apply pressure in different directions and the boulder shall remain stationary. Whereas, if you are all in agreement and directing your energy and attention in the same manner, you may accomplish the movement of this object and you shall experience more of an ease, each of you, than you perhaps may if attempting to be generating that same action individually. Are you understanding?

SEALE: Yes, I understand that.

ELIAS: In like manner, as you pool energy together with other individuals and you agree upon a common direction and movement, you offer energy to each other to accomplish that movement more easily, for you draw upon the strength of the collective.

SEALE: You can do that even in smaller groups, like just two people?

ELIAS: Yes.

SEALE: As in partnerships or whatever?

ELIAS: Yes.

SEALE: This is really great. Well, our time is up. Oh, this is so wonderful! I’m hoping maybe to be able to talk to you once a month now. I just want to keep this connection.

ELIAS: Very well, my friend.

SEALE: Thank you very much.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome. I express encouragement and affection to you, as always.

SEALE: And I’ll be playing, too.

ELIAS: Ah, yes.

SEALE: Generate that some more?

ELIAS: Ah, yes. And I express to you this day, carpe diem, my friend.

SEALE: What does that mean?

ELIAS: Seize the day.

SEALE: Seize the day? Okay, thank you. (Laughs)

ELIAS: To you in lovingness until our next meeting, au revoir.

SEALE: Au revoir.

Elias departs at 12:52 PM.

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