Wednesday, July 10, 2002 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and a new participant, Karen (Ziva)
Elias arrives at 1:29 PM. (Arrival time is 22 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

KAREN: Good morning, Elias.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Welcome!

KAREN: Thank you. Can I go ahead and just ask questions?

ELIAS: You may proceed.

KAREN: I'd like to know the essence name, essence family, alignment, orientation and personality type for myself. My name is Karen.

ELIAS: Essence name, Ziva, Z-I-V-A (ZEE vah).

KAREN: D-I-Z-A?

ELIAS: Z-I-V-A.

KAREN: B-I-Z-A?

ELIAS: (Laughs) Z as zebra, I, V as value, A.

KAREN: Ziva.

ELIAS: Yes. (Chuckles) And your impression?

KAREN: Of essence family?

ELIAS: Yes.

KAREN: Sumari?

ELIAS: And...?

KAREN: Alignment, Milumet?

ELIAS: Correct.

KAREN: Orientation, intermediate?

ELIAS: Correct.

KAREN: Personality type, thought focused?

ELIAS: Political.

KAREN: Oh my! That is a surprise! Political?

ELIAS: Yes.

KAREN: I'd like to ask all the same questions for my partner, Douglas, and my sons, Karl and Roy. Douglas first.

ELIAS: Essence name, Dona, D-O-N-A (DOH nah). And your impression?

KAREN: Sumari and Milumet?

ELIAS: Essence family, Sumari; alignment, Zuli.

KAREN: Orientation, intermediate?

ELIAS: Common.

KAREN: Personality type, emotion?

ELIAS: Yes.

KAREN: And my son, Karl?

ELIAS: Essence name, Kymm, K-Y-M-M (KIM).

KAREN: Two Ms?

ELIAS: Yes. Offer impression.

KAREN: Gramada?

ELIAS: Aligned.

KAREN: Tumold.

ELIAS: Belonging to, yes.

KAREN: So Gramada and Tumold, right?

ELIAS: Correct.

KAREN: Orientation, soft?

ELIAS: Correct.

KAREN: Personality type, emotion?

ELIAS: Yes.

KAREN: My younger son, Roy.

ELIAS: Essence name, Harmon, H-A-R-M-O-N (HAR mun). Offer impression.

KAREN: Family, Gramada?

ELIAS: Essence family, Sumafi.

KAREN: Oh, I thought his alignment was Sumafi. Alignment, Vold?

ELIAS: Yes.

KAREN: Orientation, common?

ELIAS: Yes.

KAREN: Personality type, thought focused?

ELIAS: Yes.

KAREN: Thank you very much, Elias!

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

KAREN: May I ask my color or vibrational tone? Is it a kind of golden yellow?

ELIAS: Yes, amber.

KAREN: Thank you. Is this my last focus?

ELIAS: And your impression?

KAREN: Yes.

ELIAS: And you are correct.

KAREN: How many focuses in this physical dimension do I have?

ELIAS: 857.

KAREN: How many focuses in this time framework and what locations, may I ask?

ELIAS: Six.

KAREN: Locations?

ELIAS: And shall you not investigate? (Laughs)

KAREN: China?

ELIAS: One.

KAREN: Scotland?

ELIAS: One.

KAREN: Ireland?

ELIAS: No.

KAREN: Cuba?

ELIAS: One.

KAREN: Mexico?

ELIAS: No.

KAREN: Spain?

ELIAS: No.

KAREN: It really doesn't come to my mind. I see myself as an American Indian a lot.

ELIAS: Not within this time framework.

KAREN: Yes, I understand that. I guess I'll just have to investigate that further. (Elias laughs) Australia comes to my mind...

ELIAS: Yes.

KAREN: ...is that my imagination?

ELIAS: This is correct.

KAREN: Japan?

ELIAS: No.

KAREN: I've got four of them, so I'll just have to figure out two more.

ELIAS: One more, for you are one also.

KAREN: Oh, that's right! (Both laugh) Just one more. Is it okay if I guess one more?

ELIAS: You may.

KAREN: I'm not thinking; I'm just trying to bring the impression. Russia?

ELIAS: Iceland.

KAREN: Thank you very much, Elias.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

KAREN: My intent this time around, I was kind of playing with that idea and the words that keep coming to me are explore and enjoy. Is it kind of close?

ELIAS: I may express to you, this is the general intent of all individuals within your physical dimension. Therefore, it is applicable to you also. (Chuckles)

Now; what do you view to be the theme throughout the entirety of your individual focus in association with your experiences?

KAREN: The theme is, I think, expanding and learning. That really gives me joy. But I guess this could be for every individual also. Learning and widening awareness, and also having fun. Fun is very important to me too. But I guess, dropping judgment for myself and others; that's another thing I'm paying attention to or it keeps me (inaudible).

ELIAS: I am understanding. I may express to you an identification of your intent in this focus is to be exploring the action of reconfiguring ideas associated with spirituality.

KAREN: Let me read it back to you. To be exploring action of reconfiguring ideas associated with spirituality.

ELIAS: Yes.

KAREN: That makes sense. Thank you very much. That really makes sense.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

KAREN: Sometimes before I go to sleep, I tell myself I want to see my other focuses. Then, in front of my eyes, I see all these faces just parading so fast. I try to slow it down, but sometimes I just can't. The faces just keep parading by. Am I seeing my other focuses when I'm doing it?

ELIAS: Yes.

Now; I may express to you, the reason that the images move swiftly is associated with your energy in the moment in which you begin to generate excitement, and as you express excitement the images move more quickly. Therefore, if you allow yourself to relax as you view these images, you may allow a slower movement in which you may view them more clearly.

KAREN: Thank you very much. (Elias chuckles)

I was experimenting looking at the mirror the other day and telling myself I'm going to see my other focuses. On top of my face, this American Indian old man's face, very strong and a lot of wrinkles, an interesting face, superimposed my face. Is that one of my other focuses I was looking at?

ELIAS: Yes.

KAREN: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome. (Chuckles)

KAREN: So much fun! Some of the past focuses I feel I have are at Chichen Itza, Mexico. Am I correct over there?

ELIAS: Yes.

KAREN: And Seville, Spain? Some of my other focuses?

ELIAS: Yes.

KAREN: And Ireland, Scotland...

ELIAS: Yes.

KAREN: ...Japan and Cuba, and all those places, I have lived there.

ELIAS: Yes, these are associated with other focuses.

KAREN: My partner Douglas and I, how many focuses do we have together? Is it kind of like soul mate action?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes. Incorporated together...

KAREN: How many focuses do we have together?

ELIAS: One moment; 413.

KAREN: Wow! I feel like we were siblings sometimes also, because sometimes when we are kind of bickering at each other, I just see us as brother and sister or as siblings.

ELIAS: Yes. You have engaged many different types of relationships.

KAREN: He's been saying he wants to change his first name Douglas to Leroy, his middle name. He's been saying that lately, and he's been going through a big life change. I'm just wondering, what does that mean that he wants to change to his middle name, Leroy? Or it just doesn't mean anything?

ELIAS: He incorporates this physical naming in many of his focuses as the primary physical name and therefore generates a preference in association with that name, and this is what is influencing of this expression.

KAREN: I chose to be born in Korea this time, this focus, and moved to America as I became an adult. That gave me a wonderful sense of understanding from two different points of view of everything in life. Do you have any comments on that? Just curious.

ELIAS: And what is the nature of your curiosity?

KAREN: I'm glad I chose that situation, especially because I had the wonderful connection with my grandfather in Korea. He's disengaged now, but I still feel his presence around me all the time. He influenced me a lot about life in general. Also just the complete opposite view of life in general from the Orient and the American society. It gave me, I think, a deep understanding of not what is right or what is wrong, but it just all is okay. It gave me a deep sense of understanding about differences in human beings, I think.

ELIAS: Correct, and also is quite in alignment with your intent in your exploration of reconfiguring ideas.

KAREN: I think I have a deep connection with my grandfather, his essence.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct, and have shared many focuses also.

KAREN: Sometimes my left ear itches and then sometimes I create watery eyes, and then about once a year I have sneezing and kind of a sinus condition I create. What is the communication I'm trying to get from my essence when I'm creating these situations? Is it about staying in the moment or bringing the focus now?

ELIAS: And other than this expression, what have you offered yourself in your impressions concerning these manifestations?

KAREN: Not believing in my power? Or irritation with others, which of course is irritation with myself.

ELIAS: This may be associated with your sinuses.

KAREN: That's the irritation with myself?

ELIAS: And with other individuals. But the expression that you create in association with your eyes is related to the symbology of not seeing certain movements or scenarios clearly, and you reflect this in creating this physical manifestation with your eyes.

KAREN: So I'm trying to tell myself to see things clearly, then.

ELIAS: Yes, and in association with your ears in similar manner, this is a manifestation that you create in association with communication.

KAREN: To myself and others?

ELIAS: Yes. Many individuals generate physical manifestations in the location of the throat in association with communication. But you have chosen to be manifesting certain physical expressions in association with common terms - eyes with vision and clarity, ear with listening and communicating.

Therefore, in the moments in which you create these manifestations, allow yourself to move your attention, and in that action notice what you are not offering yourself clarity concerning or notice what you are not listening to or what you are restricting in your communication outwardly.

KAREN: Thank you so much. That's wonderful.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

KAREN: Do you have any comment or encouragement for the way I'm creating my life? I don't have really a lot of questions. (Both laugh)

ELIAS: I may be encouraging of your direction as you are generating it now, for what you are allowing yourself is a furtherment of your exploration in intimacy with yourself. And in that action, I am aware that you are generating quite an expression of appreciation of yourself, which is also generating an automatic by-product of allowing you to be much more appreciative of other individuals also. And this is the point, my friend! (Laughs)

KAREN: I want to thank you for your material. It's really shed a lot of light on some of the confusion I didn't even realize I had, especially your teachings about the orientations (Elias laughs) and about just accepting beliefs rather than trying to get rid of them. Those two points really, really helped me a lot.

ELIAS: I am understanding, for as you offer yourself information concerning yourself and your manifestation, you familiarize yourself with you more intimately. This offers you the opportunity to be accepting of yourself, and in that acceptance of yourself you also allow yourself much more of an ease in accepting beliefs. They move together and are quite influencing of each other. Individuals many times attempt to be expressing a method to be accepting of beliefs, but are not familiar with self and are not accepting of self, and this blocks the action of accepting beliefs. In this, as you familiarize yourself with you, you generate much more of an acceptance.

As you begin to objectively realize that you have chosen to be manifest in this physical dimension, and in that choice it is an exploration and a type of game that you are exploring, you allow yourself to loosen the seriousness associated with your manifestation, and this creates much less thickness in the energy expression, which allows you much more of a freedom of your movement.

All of these concepts, my friend, are not actually difficult or complicated. But within your physical dimension, as you incorporate such diversity of expressions and explorations and you incorporate the mechanism of thought, you automatically complicate many of the simple concepts that are offered, and you snare yourselves with convoluting information, which is unnecessary. In this, as you allow yourselves to recognize the simplicity of your movement and the natural flow of it, you generate much more of an ease in allowing yourselves to trust and to be accepting.

KAREN: I see rigidity. It comes to my attention a lot in others. That means I have rigidity in myself I need to pay attention to.

ELIAS: Not necessarily. Let me express to you, there is a difference between presenting a mirror action to yourself and presenting reflections.

Now; at times, individuals present mirrors to themselves through other individuals. This once again is the significance of becoming intimately familiar with yourself and your beliefs and your responses and your expressions, for this allows you to differentiate between moments in which you present a mirror to yourself through another individual and moments in which you present reflections.

Now; reflections may not necessarily express precisely the same expression. What is meant in this is that you may be noticing certain expressions of other individuals and you may identify what those expressions are, and they may be reflecting to you to allow you to become familiar with certain responses that you generate within yourself, but may not necessarily be a precise mirror image. Are you understanding thus far?

KAREN: Oh, yes. That's so wonderful.

ELIAS: Therefore, in this example, you may present to yourself a reflection of different individuals that are expressing a rigidity and this is not necessarily a mirror that expresses to you that you must discover this rigidity within yourself.

KAREN: That's wonderful to hear that!

ELIAS: But rather you present this to yourself that you may allow yourself to recognize what your automatic response is in relation to those expressions.

KAREN: That's so wonderful to know that! (Elias chuckles) Thank you so much!

ELIAS: (Laughs) You are quite welcome.

KAREN: That is so wonderful! (Both laugh)

As I get older, I'm not interested in being out there in society. I'm just drawn more to be by myself in my own home and with my intimate surroundings. I'm enjoying this more and more. Do you see this as just temporary action going on, or am I just getting more true to myself?

ELIAS: I may express, this is not necessarily temporary, for what you are allowing yourself is more and more of an expression of your natural energy and placing less expectations upon yourself to be generating expected actions or interactions, and allowing yourself to listen to you and to generate what you want rather than what you previously have expressed to yourself of what you should want. (Laughs)

KAREN: Thank you so much. Everything feels so much lighter and so much more joyous from my natural inclination of just being myself. You've helped me so much. I've been reading your material only about three or four months, but you've helped me so much. I just want to tell you how much I appreciate you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome. But acknowledge yourself, my friend, for you have drawn this information to you. (Chuckles)

KAREN: Thank you. Any more encouragement or comment about how I'm doing?

ELIAS: I may say to you, you are aware of how you are doing! Ha ha ha!

KAREN: I'm enjoying my life so much, more and more every day.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) And this is to be acknowledged, and acknowledged within yourself also, for as I have stated, you allow yourself more and more of a genuine appreciation of what you generate, and this is significant.

Which also offers an example to other individuals, and especially those individuals that are a designated final focus, for many individuals as a designated final focus generate an influencing belief that they express a tiredness or a staleness in association with their choice of manifestation. But in this example of genuinely allowing yourself to pay attention to yourself and offer yourself a genuine freedom, you also generate a genuine appreciation, which re-sparks that curiosity and zeal for exploration of this physical focus.

KAREN: That's what I feel I'm experiencing now.

ELIAS: Yes.

KAREN: My partner, Douglas, is this his last focus?

ELIAS: Yes.

KAREN: In the beginning, when we first got together, I had so much difficulty communicating with him, and I really thought we were speaking two different languages. By reading your definition of orientations, now I understand why I felt that way! (Both laugh) But I feel now we finally can understand each other a lot better, and that's becoming less of an issue all the time.

ELIAS: I am understanding. Also, it may be challenging at times in interaction with individuals that express different focus types, such as you do in emotional and political. For a political focus is much more closely associated with the thought focus, and therefore your interpretation of interactions is different from that of an emotionally focused individual. The manner in which you process information is expressed differently, and this may be challenging at times also. But this is not to say that you are not capable of incorporating these translations.

KAREN: Can I ask how many focuses Douglas has in all the dimensions?

ELIAS: Within THIS physical dimension?

KAREN: Yes, within this physical dimension.

ELIAS: 902.

KAREN: Thank you very much.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

KAREN: I read a lot of transcripts, and a lot of people really have a wonderful time getting in touch with other focuses of themselves and are having so much fun. I'd like to spend some more time doing that activity also. Is there any advice you can give me for that or encourage that action? I don't think I have too much success with that, or maybe I'm not giving enough time to it.

ELIAS: (Laughs) You may allow yourself to generate this type of playfulness in dream state, as you are aware, or in visualizations or in an action of meditation. You may also practice in projection.

KAREN: I don't think I have been successful in that, at least conscious projection. I'm sure I do it in my dreams, but I haven't been able to do that while I'm still awake.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) I have offered information previously in regard to methods of how you may be generating this type of action, which...

KAREN: Yes, I believe there's information there. I don't think I read it.

ELIAS: (Laughs) But recognize that you may incorporate this action also to be viewing or experiencing other focuses in similar manner to projecting within this time framework. In either expression, you may incorporate this action of projection.

KAREN: This conversation with you was delayed about three weeks ago. Did I create that?

ELIAS: Yes.

KAREN: Out of concern or fear?

ELIAS: Not necessarily fear, but apprehension.

KAREN: So I created that.

ELIAS: Yes, an expression of nervousness. (Laughs)

KAREN: I thought I was perfectly cool! (Both laugh)

The morning I sent Mary Ennis this email requesting to have conversation with you, my computer was kind of in off mode. It was still turned on, but it was a dark screen. But then I looked up a few minutes later and this little picture was floating, which is the screensaver picture. I was wondering why that was happening, because as long as I don't touch the computer, that doesn't happen. Then the thought came to me "Elias is saying hello" and then it disappeared after about a minute or so. (Elias laughs) My impression is correct?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

KAREN: Oh, I'm so glad! (Both laugh) It just came to me, Elias saying hello to me! I'm so glad!

ELIAS: I too incorporate playfulness! Ha ha ha!

KAREN: Oh, thank you so much!

My son, Karl... I tend not to worry about my kids because they're doing very well. Is there... No, I'm sure you're going to say there's nothing I can do to help. (Both laugh) They're doing well, so I'll just leave it at that. I realize I understand him a whole lot more now because his orientation is soft, so that gives me a lot deeper understanding of him.

ELIAS: Your greatest expression of helpfulness to another individual is to be accepting of you and holding your attention upon you, for this offers an example to other individuals and an encouragement of them.

KAREN: You've said that to many other people, so I got it! (Both laugh)

I created this little blue jay, a baby blue jay, and he's still just half-grown, I guess. We have blue jays coming around the house and playing with us, and we get so much joy out of them. But this baby has kind of like a hook - the beak is not ordinary. It's kind of malformed. It's hooked a little bit, but he seems to be okay. He's just very aggressive and happy, and takes peanuts and eats them and everything. So I think he's going to be fine. But what is the meaning of it, that we created this not-normal body formation of this little bird? Does that mean anything to us?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, for it is your creation. Therefore, you have created it in a unique manner as objective imagery to yourself of your creation, that this may be viewed as not ordinary. (Laughs)

KAREN: Is it kind of associated with realizing nothing is broken and all is okay?

ELIAS: Yes, and appreciating the uniqueness of this creature and recognizing that it is acceptable in its difference, which in association with significance to you, in a manner of speaking serves as a continuous reminder of acceptance of difference.

KAREN: That's what came to me, so thank you for acknowledging that, confirming that.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

KAREN: I have one more question. I first moved into this apartment about three years ago. There are a lot of mirrors in this house; it's full of mirrors. I didn't really like mirrors much, so it bothered me in the beginning. But then one day I asked myself why I created these mirrors, and the voice said I'm willing to see all the truth. I'm not willing to hide anymore. I'm ready to see all the truth or whatever without hiding. That voice came to me. So after that, I realized that and I accepted it, and I'm fine with that now. What do you think about that?

ELIAS: And I may acknowledge your impression, for you are correct. For your presentment of this imagery to yourself is your manner in which you have offered yourself an obvious communication concerning allowing yourself to genuinely see you, and to see you continuously and consistently.

KAREN: I see. That is so wonderful.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) You present to yourself imagery and manifestations that are quite simply associated. You do not complicate your imagery tremendously. Therefore, what you view to be obvious and simple associations with manifestations and outward imagery are quite accurate in association with you individually.

KAREN: That's wonderful.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Quite efficient in not creating expressions that you must be unraveling!

KAREN: That's wonderful! I like that! (Elias chuckles)

I have a yellow rose right here in front of me, because it reminds me of the essence of Rose energy. I was so nervous before I called Mary, I put the rose in front of me and it kind of calmed me down. (Elias laughs) It was my first reading, so I was quite nervous!

ELIAS: And in actuality I may express to you, in association with your delay of interaction with myself, would you have engaged or allowed yourself to engage conversation with myself previously, your nervousness and anxiousness would have been much more! (Both laugh) You have allowed yourself a time framework in which to calm yourself and engage this interaction playfully rather than generating tremendous nervousness. Ha ha ha!

KAREN: About the fear, I feel I don't create a lot of issues with fear. But am I handling my fear well, like facing it and dispelling the power behind it?

ELIAS: Yes, I am in agreement with you. You do not generate much expression of fear within your focus. At times you may confuse yourself, but not create fear. (Laughs)

KAREN: When we visited Sedona, Arizona, last year, both Douglas and I felt a tremendous sense of calm, and I felt like my body was just totally freshly reborn. At some point I didn't even feel I had a body because I was in such harmony with my body and my mind. It was just a totally new experience for me because I never felt that way in any location. Then I read about energy deposit places that you talked about in one of the transcripts. Is that what was happening when Douglas and I were there last time?

ELIAS: Yes. Each individual shall allow themselves to experience these energy deposits in their unique manner. In association with your intent and your alignment and also in association with your orientation in this focus, this is quite understandable, the type of experience you generated in association with that energy deposit.

That particular energy deposit is quite strong. There are other physical locations that incorporate a similar strength of energy, but the unique expression of that particular physical location is that many individuals, in your terms, visit that physical area and contribute to the energy deposit. Therefore, it is continuously being increased.

KAREN: This area where I'm living, Pacific Grove, California, is right on the ocean. I just feel such a tremendous sense of joy and calm when I'm looking at the ocean and when I'm walking by the ocean. Do you have any comment on that?

ELIAS: Which also may be strongly influenced by your alignment.

KAREN: Elias, I think we have to go soon. Do you have any last comment or anything?

ELIAS: I may express to you my encouragement that you continue to be expressing your wondrous playfulness, my friend.

KAREN: Thank you so much, Elias. It's been such a joy talking to you and talking with you, and I appreciate all your help. Thank you very, very much.

ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend. I shall be anticipating our next meeting, and I shall be offering playful energy to you.

KAREN: Oh, would you do that, please? (Both laugh) Thank you so much, Elias.

ELIAS: To you in tremendous affection, my friend, au revoir.

KAREN: Au revoir.

Elias departs at 2:28 PM.

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