Wednesday, June 12, 2002 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Julia (Moorah)
Elias arrives at 12:40 PM. (Arrival time is 23 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

JULIA: Hi, Elias! I'm so happy to talk to you! (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: And what shall we discuss this morning?

JULIA: Well, I know a lot of things to discuss. I've been creating a lot of things since I talked to you last.

ELIAS: Very well.

JULIA: After I talked to you last, I decided to graduate from high school early, almost immediately after I talked to you. I didn't really know exactly why I wanted to, but now after thinking about it for a while, I kind of think it's because I had this belief that I wouldn't be able to really make the decisions that I wanted to until I was out of high school. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Yes, and now that you have created that you are also offering yourself more freedom, are you not?

JULIA: Yeah. School ended last Friday, and now that I'm out I feel that I'm doing the things that I want to do.

ELIAS: Offering yourself permission.

JULIA: Right. (Elias laughs) On that line, I knew before that I did the things I wanted to do, but now it seems like it's easier.

ELIAS: Quite, for within the family unit, as you accomplish this point, the belief is that the interaction shall alter somewhat and you shall allow yourself the freedom to be expressing yourself now as an adult.

JULIA: Yeah! (Elias laughs) 'Cause I'd also noticed just what you said. With family stuff, it's like, "Oh, I want to go out," "Okay." No big deal. (Elias chuckles) So that's really nice.

Recently I just sprained my ankle and I really don't know why I sprained my ankle. Do you think you could tell my why I did that?

ELIAS: Yes.

JULIA: Or do I know why?

ELIAS: I suspect that you do, but I shall express explanation to you also.

JULIA: Was it part of myself experimenting again?

ELIAS: Not necessarily. Actually, I may express to you, you have generated this physical affectingness to express a communication to yourself to slow your movement and therefore not overwhelm yourself.

JULIA: You mean just in general to slow down?

ELIAS: Yes. It is unnecessary to generate within yourself an urgency and therefore overwhelm yourself. I am aware that you are presenting to yourself many changes in your direction and in your movement, and this may become overwhelming to you. Therefore you have generated this physical affectingness to be expressing a communication to yourself to be slowing your movement and not overwhelming yourself. You incorporate ample time to be generating all of the changes and alterations that you are creating within your direction presently and within what you term to be your near future, and this allows you to relax your energy and not incorporate as much tension.

JULIA: So I should just slow down because I have enough time to do stuff, right?

ELIAS: Correct.

JULIA: Even though I know I want to do everything, because it's like I feel that I have the power now to do it, you know?

ELIAS: I am understanding. (Chuckles)

JULIA: But it'll be okay if I don't do it all at the same time! (Laughs)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! Correct!

JULIA: Oh, that might explain ... I went to physical therapy for my ankle yesterday, and the therapist told me that I stood not normally. Then he started working those muscles and stuff, and I woke up very sore today. Is that another reflection of trying to slow down?

ELIAS: And balance.

JULIA: What do you mean by that, balance?

ELIAS: Offering yourself imagery not merely in the expression of slowing your movement and realizing that you do incorporate enough time to be accomplishing all that you wish to be accomplishing and to accommodate all of the changes that you are initiating within your direction, but also to be incorporating a balance in your movement and not to be expressing such extremes.

JULIA: Like extremes of energy and stuff like that?

ELIAS: And any expression that you are incorporating in the moment, any action that you are incorporating in the moment. To allow yourself a balance and the objective knowing that you shall accomplish, allow yourself a balance within your perception and your energy expression and not generate extremes.

JULIA: I was thinking of not going to the physical therapist anymore because I felt so sore. Is that a good idea or would it help me balance more?

ELIAS: Not necessarily. This is merely your choice. If you choose to be incorporating interaction with this individual in physical manipulation of your body consciousness in association with your beliefs that it shall be helpful, you may. But you may also choose not to be incorporating this action and you shall continue to heal yourself regardless, for you are offering yourself the message of why you have created this physical affectingness. Therefore in acknowledging that message and incorporating that action, you shall continue to generate a healing expression in association with your ankle.

JULIA: I recently did a report for school about traditional Chinese medicine, and they focus a lot on the whole body being balanced and stuff like that. Does that relate to anything like the balance that you're talking about?

ELIAS: Yes.

JULIA: So it was kind of tied in by that report?

ELIAS: Yes.

JULIA: That's cool! (Elias chuckles) I was also thinking of going to an acupuncturist, even though I'm not ill or anything like that, just to go. Is that...?

ELIAS: And to experience, and there is no expression why you should not. It is merely an offering to yourself of experiencing different actions that are incorporated within different cultures. It may offer you an interesting experience.

JULIA: That's kind of cool how it all ties in, then.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! I may express to you my friend, there are no accidents and all that you do moves together with each other. It matters not what direction you focus your attention within, all of your movements are all interrelated.

JULIA: I was also considering having a career as an acupuncturist. Was that just another reflection or would I find myself happy doing that?

ELIAS: I am understanding your curiosity in association with this practice. You may investigate and you shall offer to yourself information and a knowing whether this is what you choose to be incorporating or not. I shall merely suggest to you to be reminding yourself whatever you choose to be moving into in this type of expression of what you term to be career, be remembering to incorporate fun. If you are not generating playfulness and fun in the choices that may be associated with career, my suggestion is that you re-evaluate. (Chuckles)

JULIA: 'Cause everybody's like, "Oh, so what do you want to be or have a career in?" I have ideas but I don't really know if I'll really like it, and I guess that's just up to me to explore more and figure out what I really want.

ELIAS: Correct!

JULIA: And to have fun, is that what everyone should look for?

ELIAS: Yes, and also allow yourself the flexibility in knowing that your wants change. Your perception changes and therefore your wants also change. You may be generating the accomplishment of a want and being playful and incorporating fun for a time framework in one direction, and you may also choose to be incorporating different directions if you wish. You are not locked into any one expression.

Allow yourself to be remembering that you hold the freedom to direct yourself and to choose the actions and the expressions that incorporate fun within you in any particular time framework, and not to be rigid and expressing to yourself that once you choose one direction you MUST be continuing in that direction, but that if you move your attention and become interested in a different direction, you may also explore that.

JULIA: That kind of goes against beliefs of society, saying that you have to choose something and stick with it, right?

ELIAS: (Laughs) Yes, I am understanding. But this is quite restricting!

JULIA: And that's what makes it kind of hard. Because I know that, but I also know what society... I don't know; it's confusing at times. (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: Mass beliefs may be confusing at times.

JULIA: Lately I made these spoons. It was a very creative thing that I did. I made these spoons and I painted on them and I put little beads on them and stuff like that, and on each spoon I drew something different. Was there a purpose to make these or was I just being creative?

ELIAS: An offering to yourself to express an exploration of different aspects of your creativity, allowing yourself an enjoyment of your expression of creativity and also an offering to yourself in becoming familiar with manners in which you may quiet your energy and generate an expression of creativity but also in quietness.

JULIA: So something kind of like to slow down, right?

ELIAS: Partially, but familiarizing yourself with allowing yourself to accomplish an outward expression and productivity, but not necessarily in the manner in which you are accustomed, in forcing your energy and pushing yourself. In this, you allowed yourself to be expressing a creativity and to be generating an outward expression and an expression of productivity in which you generated or created an actual outward expression and a thing, but not in a manner of pushing yourself.

JULIA: Oh, okay, I understand. I don't know how to say it back, but I understand.

ELIAS: So that you allow yourself to become familiar with different types of expressions and know that you may be accomplishing and [that] it is not necessary to be continuously pushing yourself and forcing your energy to be accomplishing. You may accomplish in a quietness also and with an ease and pleasure.

JULIA: I took those spoons after I made them and hung them up, and one by one they would fall down, over the course of a time period. So, is that the energy, my energy being quiet instead of forceful?

ELIAS: In association with the action of them falling?

JULIA: Over a time period, yeah.

ELIAS: No. This is an action that you have created to be gaining your attention, for as the spoon falls you turn your attention to it. In turning your attention to it, what you are attempting to communicate to yourself is to be acknowledging of the creativity that has been expressed and not to be holding this to yourself, but that it may be shared outwardly also and allowed to be appreciated by other individuals. This is a manner in which you have been attempting to gain your attention, to allow yourself to acknowledge yourself and appreciate your creative expression, and offer yourself a reflection of that in your acknowledgment of yourself through the expressions of other individuals and their appreciation of your creativity also.

JULIA: So I'm trying to acknowledge myself for being creative?

ELIAS: Yes.

JULIA: I do that through making stuff?

ELIAS: But also this is an expression of wanting to share that creativity with other individuals and allowing other individuals the opportunity to be appreciating of your creativity also, and therefore acknowledging yourself in acceptance of your talent, so to speak.

JULIA: Oh, okay. Because I didn't really explain or tell anyone about my spoons.

ELIAS: I am aware, and you have hung them upon your wall for your viewing only.

JULIA: Yes, but I should share with...?

ELIAS: And in your expression of hanging them upon your wall for your viewing only, you have also created an action in which you generate an energy, and as you have stated, they fall off your wall. For this is what you are expressing to yourself: as they fall off the wall, you are generating an energy to gain your attention to acknowledge yourself that your creativity is worthy of sharing outwardly, and offering yourself the reflection of your own appreciation of your expression through the reflection of other individuals' appreciation of your creativity.

JULIA: So I should share?

ELIAS: Yes!

JULIA: When they were falling down I thought there was some meaning to why each one fell down at random times, but it was because I wanted to share, to make myself realize that?

ELIAS: Yes, and this is a significant meaning, in your terms.

JULIA: For each spoon?

ELIAS: In general.

JULIA: I think I have a good idea, but I'm not completely sure of what each spoon does. (Elias laughs) Like, does it mainly have to do with letting go of certain beliefs or things like that when they fall?

ELIAS: This may also be your imagery that you present to yourself within your creation of your individual symbology.

This is not an absolute. I am aware of the manner in which you are presently associating, and in this your association is that the spoon is generating the movement to be reflecting your movement in dropping a particular belief and associating one belief with one spoon.

Now; recognize the spoon is not generating any action.

JULIA: It's me.

ELIAS: Yes. You are creating the action.

Now; you have created the action to be acknowledging of yourself and to be sharing with other individuals.

Now; you may also, if you are choosing, incorporate the action of these spoons as a focal point and as your individual symbology to yourself in association with specific or certain beliefs in association with each spoon and those that you are addressing to and moving into acceptance of. This is your choice.

JULIA: What do you mean by a focal point?

ELIAS: Individuals many times turn their attention to objects or expressions or specific actions that allow them to focus their attention in a particular direction in association with a particular subject matter. This is what we term to be a focal point.

Some individuals incorporate crystals, some individuals may be incorporating tarot cards, some individuals may incorporate a ouija board. Other individuals may incorporate specific actions that they generate, a physical manifestation that repeats or re-occurs. Other individuals may incorporate specific types of imagery within dreams or may focus their attention through an interaction that is repetitive with a creature or another individual or even any type of object.

The point is that a focal point is any incorporation of any action or expression or manifestation outside of yourself that you allow yourself to focus your attention in conjunction with for a specific movement or a specific communication to yourself. Such as an individual may generate a physical manifestation of shortness of breath consistently and repeatedly, and they may generate this in association with a very specific action, that each time they generate this shortness of breath they incorporate this action as a focal point or a trigger to focus their attention upon a specific expression that they may be generating in the moment, which is helpful for the individual to be objectively noticing. Another individual may incorporate an action of viewing a tarot card each day, to move their attention to themself and to pay attention to their direction in the day, offering themselves a focal point to direct their attention more easily in association with that specific subject matter, reminding themselves to be holding their attention in the now.

You are moving your attention in association with the spoons into an expression of incorporating them as your own individual symbology, that each time a spoon falls you move your attention to it and you incorporate a similar action each time in moving your attention to yourself and questioning yourself in association with your beliefs and what you are addressing to in that time framework.

JULIA: So focal points are helpful, in a sense?

ELIAS: Yes.

JULIA: Everyone has them, right?

ELIAS: For the most part, yes.

JULIA: Knowingly or unknowingly.

ELIAS: Yes.

JULIA: If I continue to make the spoons a focal point for me, would I find that beneficial if I allow myself to?

ELIAS: Yes.

JULIA: That sounds good. For a long time I just sat there and was like, "I don't know what this means." So that does help a lot. (Elias chuckles and Julia laughs)

Lately I've been experiencing - I don't really know how to describe it - but I used the word "two-toned" feeling, like I'll feel sad or something, not so much anger but usually sad, and then underneath I'll be calm. I don't really know what it means.

ELIAS: Very well, I shall offer you an explanation. With regard to what you and I discussed previously in association with your emotional communications to yourself, you are now moving yourself into an expression in which you are beginning to allow yourself to objectively recognize your own movement in acceptance of yourself and of your communications. You are allowing yourself to relax your energy more efficiently. Therefore you may generate an emotional communication to yourself and the signal, but you also recognize that you are generating an ease or a calm or a relaxation within yourself simultaneous to the emotional communication. This is an indication that you are moving your expressions more in acceptance of yourself and not forcing your energy in attempting to push away your emotional communications.

JULIA: Okay, so I'm accepting my emotions...

ELIAS: Yes.

JULIA: ...as communications.

ELIAS: Yes.

JULIA: That makes a lot of sense, because just very recently I broke my necklace that I really like to wear and I became very sad but at the same time I knew that I did it and that it was going to be okay.

ELIAS: Correct.

JULIA: I was able to recognize that I was making myself feel sad and that I didn't have to be like that.

ELIAS: Correct.

JULIA: I was very amazed that I was able to make the connection between those two things.

ELIAS: I am understanding. This is to be acknowledged, for this is a tremendous movement. At our previous meeting and interaction with each other, you were generating strong challenge in the expression of recognizing and accepting your emotional communications to yourself and how you create certain expressions. In this, you have offered yourself experience in association with your emotional communications and have allowed yourself an objective understanding, which is quite significant. For without the experience, the information merely remains concept. But as you generate experience in association with the concepts, you move those concepts into an expression of reality.

JULIA: What do you mean by concepts?

ELIAS: I may offer you much information, but the information that I offer to you is expressed in concept. If you do not incorporate the experience in association with the concepts of information that I express to you, you do not incorporate a reality of understanding of those concepts.

I may express to you repeatedly that emotion is a communication. If you are not offering yourself an actual experience in which you recognize the emotion as a communication and experience the acceptance of that, you shall not genuinely incorporate a realistic objective understanding of what has been offered in information. Are you understanding?

JULIA: Yes. It's kind of like what I just did with the necklace.

ELIAS: Yes!

JULIA: I knew it as a concept, but I never truly understood it objectively until I recognized that I did that.

ELIAS: Correct.

JULIA: Okay, that makes a lot of sense. The last time that we talked I remember feeling very relaxed and having a lot of acceptance. I don't really know how to describe it, but I've kind of lost that feeling but at the same time I still feel really calm. Is it still there or...?

ELIAS: Yes. You are merely generating more of a tension now within your energy, which is not bad. You are generating this for you are generating a tremendous expression of excitement, not merely in this moment but you have been generating much excitement in association with new expressions of freedom that you are exploring, and this permeates ALL of your interactions presently. (Chuckles)

JULIA: Okay, that makes sense! If I slowed down my energy and not being so forceful, would I find that calming feeling again or relaxing?

ELIAS: Yes.

JULIA: So, it just depends on what I want, huh?

ELIAS: You are correct, but this is, in your terms, the reason that you are presenting to yourself certain imagery concerning slowing your movement and balancing your energies.

JULIA: I had a dream a while back and I dreamed that I saw two of the same person. One was outside on the roof and one was inside next to me. I was wondering if that had anything to do with deciding to graduate, that I separated sort of. I'm not really sure how to explain it. Because the individual that was in my dream, I know that I usually reflect what I want when I do stuff with him.

ELIAS: I am understanding. Yes, you are correct. What you have offered to yourself in this imagery is a recognition of an action of generating a specific choice, and in that choice creating another probable self and a probable reality in which that probable self generates a different choice. You have offered yourself imagery that is symbolic of this expression of creating a probable self and a probable reality.

You all generate this type of action throughout your focuses. Probable realities and probable selves are created in moments of what you term to be significant choices in which you choose to alter your direction. Therefore in choosing to be altering your direction in association with school, you have also generated a probable self.

JULIA: A probable self - does that mean I'm like two people now, or is it just probable and I still participate in that but I also participate in the one that I'm here right now?

ELIAS: The latter, although you do not incorporate an objective awareness of the probable self, which is also another expression or aspect of you.

Now; recognize that probable selves occupy probable realities which, in a manner of speaking, parallel to some extent your reality, but are generated in moments in which you create choices and you choose to alter certain aspects of your direction. The probable self shall continue in the direction that you did not choose. In this, from that moment that the probable self is generated, it incorporates its own choices.

JULIA: So it's kind of like the probable self is off doing its own thing.

ELIAS: Yes.

JULIA: And I subjectively might be ... I am concentrating on it, I guess?

ELIAS: To some extent, yes.

JULIA: But will I and that probable self ever rejoin, or is it pretty much broken from here on out? (Pause)

ELIAS: Let me explain to you in this manner. Once you have created a probable self, it incorporates its own attention. Therefore it is you, for it is an aspect of you as essence, but it incorporates its own attention. Therefore, you may recognize it as you in other areas of consciousness, or even within your area of consciousness as you widen your awareness. It is not a situation of a type of splitting and then re-assimilating. Once an attention has been established, that attention continues within its own unique expression, but it continues to be you.

JULIA: Okay, I kind of understand. The probable self, it's an aspect of me but it's going to make its own probable reality.

ELIAS: Correct, and choices.

JULIA: Do I have more than one probable self?

ELIAS: Yes, you all incorporate many, many, many probable selves.

JULIA: Can I guess a number?

ELIAS: You may.

JULIA: Twelve?

ELIAS: I may express to you, you have generated much more than 12. (Laughs with Julia)

JULIA: Okay, I don't want to know the number!

Last night I had a dream that I bumped my face into the wall and I lost a lot of my teeth. I think it had something to do with my emotions, because I wasn't really panicking in the dream, I was more accepting, even though I did go to the norm to try and fix my teeth or whatever. But is that what the dream was for?

ELIAS: Yes, to offer yourself imagery concerning acceptance and that you may be generating any type of expression, and that you do incorporate the ability to choose and alter whatever you have created previously.

JULIA: This is a funny situation, but there was a squirrel in the house a while ago. I was just with my mom, and she really panicked a lot. I did too, in the beginning, but then I calmed down. Were my mom and I just sharing an experience together or was it ... I don't know.

ELIAS: Offer to myself your impression and your assessment of this experience.

JULIA: For both me and her?

ELIAS: For yourself and your PERCEPTION of her.

JULIA: Well, I think it had something to do with me being able to accept my emotion and then being able to analyze what I was creating, and at the same time to show me that my mom was not able to do this.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking you are correct, for what you have offered to yourself is an experience in which you may objectively recognize and view that you do incorporate the ability to alter your expression, regardless of the intensity of the expression. This is significant, my friend, for individuals within your physical dimension, and yourself also, many times may generate an intensity in an experience in a particular moment.

Now; in certain intensities of expressions the individual does not allow themselves to view their choices. Fear, anger, sadness, disappointment - these are some of the emotional signals that may be generated in a tremendous intensity. If the individual is experiencing that extreme of intensity, generally speaking they do not listen to the communication. They merely pay attention to the signal and immobilize themselves - and you have created this also previously.

JULIA: I was just about to say, the first time that I talked to you I remember you speaking to me about this.

ELIAS: Correct, and this has offered you an experience in which you have allowed yourself to recognize, to realize objectively that regardless of how intense you may be generating an emotional signal, you do hold the ability to move your attention to yourself and affect the intensity of the signal and also receive the message.

You do hold the ability to move your attention to you even in the moments in which you generate an extreme intensity of experience, which is quite significant that you have offered this experience to yourself, for many times individuals do immobilize themselves in their expressions and do not allow themselves to do any of their choices other than to continue in the extreme intensity of the experience. In this, they express the role of being a victim to themselves and do not allow themselves to express an understanding of how to move their attention to self in these moments, and many times even express that they ARE paying attention to themselves and they are not. They are paying attention to the signal and the experience but not necessarily genuine attention to self.

In this experience, you offered yourself an actual objective viewing of how you may move your attention to yourself and alter the experience and alter your perception. You allowed yourself to be incorporating this experience with your mother, who did not alter her expression or the intensity of it, as an example of what you have generated previously and what you are generating now, which is quite significant.

JULIA: So it was to help me realize how much I've been able to recognize my emotions, and then from recognizing my emotions be able to create what I want or move in a direction that I find pleasing at the moment.

ELIAS: Correct.

JULIA: Oh, that's kinda cool! (Elias chuckles)

I think our time is almost up, so we're gonna have to say "bye" soon! But I've learned a lot, or not learned but realized why I've been doing a lot of the things that I've been doing and that it is all very beneficial.

ELIAS: You are quite correct.

JULIA: Even though at the time it might be very confusing.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Even within the time frameworks in which you express to yourself that you may be generating some action that is uncomfortable, it is beneficial. Acknowledge yourself, my friend! You have offered yourself much information and have allowed yourself a considerable understanding objectively in recent time framework.

JULIA: Thank you.

ELIAS: And now you move into the expression of your grand adventure!

JULIA: Yes, and I'm very excited about that! But I'll try to slow down just a little! (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: Very well. It is unnecessary to be generating the cliché of following within the footsteps of your father and generating physical affectingness to gain your attention. Ha ha ha!

JULIA: (Laughing) Oh, yes!

ELIAS: Ha ha! Who is quite amusing in his creations!

JULIA: I see my sister is too, at times.

ELIAS: Very well, my friend. I shall be anticipating our next meeting. I express my congratulations to you in your accomplishments, and my support and encouragement in your new adventure and your new freedom.

JULIA: Thanks.

ELIAS: As always, I offer to you my great affection, and I shall be offering my energy to you in the interim time framework. To you this day, in lovingness, au revoir.

JULIA: Au revoir.

Elias departs at 1:40 PM.

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