Thursday, April 18, 2002 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Frank (Ulra)
Elias arrives at 10:36 AM. (Arrival time is 20 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

FRANK: Good morning! How you doing today?

ELIAS: As always, and yourself?

FRANK: Pretty good, as a matter of fact! (Elias laughs) Nice to speak to you again.

ELIAS: And what shall we be discussing this morning?

FRANK: Well, let's see. I don't have much of an agenda today, so we'll see where we go. But I did have a number of dreams that I wanted to run by you, with a familiar theme, I might add.

ELIAS: Ah!

FRANK: The first one, let me ask you about, occurred a few weeks ago or may have been even right after our last session. Anyway, I was driving in my car in a parking lot and it was raining very heavily. So here we go with the water again. And this parking lot was on a slope, and it was raining very hard, and there was someone with me in the car who was telling me to drive into another area of the parking lot and I didn't want to do it. I was sort of afraid to do it because I thought the water would be too deep. But then I did it anyway, and all of a sudden the car just like fell down a hole into a big pool of water. Then I sort of swam up through the top and got out. So we've got the old water theme again.

ELIAS: And your impression?

FRANK: It seems like every other time I have these dreams with this water sort of thing, it's got to do with my involvement in the shift and how I'm dealing with that. So I assume it's something along those lines. I really don't have anything more specific than that, though.

ELIAS: Correct. It is a presentment of imagery of immersing yourself and of an emergence. Therefore, you present to yourself imagery to offer yourself information concerning your movement in immersing yourself in information and movement but also allowing yourself an emergence from that to be moving into new expressions of freedom.

For within the dream imagery, if you allow yourself to notice, as you move the vehicle and you are immersed in the water, there is an expression of confinement or less allowance of movement. But as you emerge from the water, you also present to yourself the sensation of freedom and less of an encumberedness.

FRANK: And this is a reflection, as usual, I suppose, of what's going on objectively also?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: Which I think is true. I guess I need to think about that some more, but I think in many ways I do feel more free than I have previously.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: Let me ask you about something else, a couple of other dreams I want to talk about, but let me ask about something else that occurred that I think sort of relates to this.

This was last weekend I was out engaged in a physical activity and I was pretty tired. I came home, laid down on the couch, and I don't think I was actually sleeping. I'm not sure if this is a dream or how you would characterize it. At any rate, I saw myself... I don't know, I think I was at some event, whatever it was. At any rate, all of a sudden it was like a cover had closed in on me and I felt like I was trapped. I tried to get out of this I'll call it a confinement - it's really hard for me to describe - and it was almost like I couldn't push this thing off me. I couldn't move my arms or didn't have the strength to do it. Whatever it was, I couldn't do it. For a brief second I almost - I wouldn't say "panicked" is the right word - but I was very concerned about this. Then all of a sudden I just suddenly felt, okay, this isn't real, this is a dream or this is whatever it is and just relax. And I did and then I was able to push the cover off myself, the actual cover, and again had the feeling of freedom.

So, I guess my question is it seems to me like there's probably some relationship here. So that's one question. The other question is was this a dream or was this something else? What exactly was going on there?

ELIAS: No, this is not dream imagery.

Now; you have expressed a semi-interest in allowing yourself to be engaging in projections and [to] incorporate an objective awareness of that action as you are engaging it. You have incorporated this curiosity of this type of action for an extended time framework, as you are aware, but not to the point of fascination, merely just curiosity in your ability to objectively be paying attention as you are generating a projection of yourself within consciousness. In your movement, you have been allowing yourself much more of an expression of freedom and much more of an allowance of your individual expression of trust of yourself.

Now; in this experience you allowed yourself a momentary expression of an awareness in beginning to allow yourself to be projecting, but not actually engaging that action entirely and allowing yourself a beginning objective recognition of that action. But once again you express this uncomfortableness, which is a reflection of the fear of this type of action and an objective awareness of it.

Let me express to you, in projections you allow yourself to move your objective and subjective awareness, figuratively speaking, away from your physical body consciousness.

Now; in this, if you allow yourself to return your objective awareness momentarily to your physical body consciousness, you shall notice a physical sensation which occurs. You have removed the directing element from your physical body consciousness; therefore, it remains still and motionless, and it is not being directed to move in any manner other than the actual functionings that it incorporates to be continuing the physical manifestation. The objective awareness does not direct the movement of your physical body consciousness. Therefore you may objectively THINK to yourself and express to yourself, "I wish to move my arm. I wish to move my head." This is THINKING. This is not directing. Thinking does not create manifestations. Therefore it shall not generate the actual movement. But this becomes confusing objectively, for you notice that you may think a command for a motion and it does not occur.

In this, as the subjective awareness is moved, it is not responding to the command of the objective awareness, and the objective awareness is not actually expressing a command. The objective awareness is continuing to be in harmony with the subjective, but you move your attention to thought and this is what generates the confusion. There is, in actuality, no necessity for fear for no harmfulness is occurring. It is merely unfamiliar. This is an extreme state of relaxation but continuing to incorporate the objective awareness of that state of relaxation.

You may experience a very similar or the same type of sensation in hypnosis. You are objectively aware, but you are allowing yourself an extreme state of relaxation in which you allow the subjective awareness to wander, and therefore it is not directing of the physical body consciousness, temporarily. This is the reason that you felt, so to speak, that you did not incorporate the ability to move or to express to yourself a command to move and respond to that command.

FRANK: So then when I just said to myself, "Okay, relax, this is okay," really what was happening was that the objective and subjective were coming back into normal mode.

ELIAS: Yes, which offers you an example in a beginning of what you may be recognizing if you are allowing yourself to be projecting. This may occur as you return the objective and subjective awarenesses to your physical body consciousness. You may incorporate a few brief moments in which there is an adjustment of the physical body consciousness in responsiveness to the redirecting with the subjective awareness.

FRANK: Let's talk about the projection itself. Basically what I did was move my objective and subjective awareness to another place and time, correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: Was I at a baseball game or some kind of sporting event? That's what it seemed like.

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: Is it something in the future that will happen to me, or can you talk about where exactly I was?

ELIAS: No, merely an allowance of viewing another activity occurring in that time framework.

FRANK: Okay, so it's something that's actually going on right then and there.

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: And wherever it was that I was at, why did I pick that versus anything else? Was it just random or was there some reason?

ELIAS: No. The reason that you choose this particular activity is that it is familiar. Therefore you chose to be projecting to a familiar activity and environment, that you may allow yourself less fearfulness in not moving your awareness to some activity or location or time framework that may be unfamiliar and generate more of a cautiousness within you in relation to your objective awareness.

FRANK: Was it a very brief projection?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: That's what it seemed like to me. It seemed like five seconds or something - you know, a short time.

ELIAS: Incorporating more moments than that, but yes, brief.

FRANK: Do you have any advice for me in terms of continuing this activity?

ELIAS: You may engage this type of action, and as you now have offered yourself this experience and recognize that the lack of physical mobility is merely momentary, you may allow yourself to relax and not engage the fear. You may also recognize that you may direct this type of projection to any subject matter or location or time framework that you wish.

FRANK: That would be the objective that I would like to achieve. (Elias chuckles) Okay, very interesting.

Let me ask you about two other dreams, which unfortunately I didn't write down so it's pretty sketchy. One happened earlier this week, where I was at a New Year's Eve party, I think it was, and somehow it ended up where I was shooting squirt guns at a bunch of kids and they were shooting hoses of water at me, or vice versa. Anyway, that was basically the gist of it. Again I didn't write it down when it occurred, so much of it is gone. But again we've got this theme of water going on here. So what do you think? Can you tell me what that's all about?

ELIAS: And shall you attempt in one of these presentments of dream imagery to move into the expression of the water intentionally and explore what you may discover within that as a dream trigger?

FRANK: Are you saying right now? I'm not quite sure I understand what you're saying.

ELIAS: No, merely a suggestion that you may be incorporating futurely, if you are so choosing. For you may easily move into these expressions of water that you present to yourself and allow yourself movement through that portal as a dream trigger, for you present this dream trigger to yourself quite often.

FRANK: Are you saying WHILE I'm dreaming?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: Use this as a portal?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: Which I guess I could do.

ELIAS: Yes!

FRANK: I don't know that I have... I guess that I don't trust that I have the ability while I'm dreaming to do that.

ELIAS: Ah, but you do!

FRANK: I knew you would say that.

ELIAS: Ha ha! This is merely an expression of not trusting your abilities. But what I suggest to you is to allow yourself to experiment. For this particular dream trigger you may move into quite easily, for generally you express the imagery of water in movement. Therefore, as the water is moving, you may move into it easily.

As to the expression of this particular dream imagery, you are merely offering to yourself a communication in relation to playfulness. This dream imagery is actually an expression of validation that you have been allowing yourself more of an expression of playfulness and more of a genuine expression of it matters not - which is quite significant, my friend.

FRANK: Yes, considering where we started two years ago, I would say so. (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: Genuine expression of "it matters not" is tremendously liberating, for this is not an expression of not caring. It is an allowance of yourself in a lack of judgment.

FRANK: Yeah, I think I'm finally getting that. And you know, the interesting thing is when we first started talking, I don't know, I don't think I fully understood what you meant by that.

ELIAS: I am understanding.

FRANK: And I suspect a lot of people don't... A lot of these things, at first you hear the words and you think you understand or sort of understand, but you really don't and you need to experience it.

ELIAS: You are quite correct.

FRANK: But as usual, I feel like I have a long way to go.

ELIAS: Ha ha! But it is a journey. It is...

FRANK: Right, but I also feel like even though I have a long way to go, it matters not.

ELIAS: Correct! For it is an exploration and the process is the point, for the process generates outcomes in every moment.

FRANK: Now I want to ask you about one other dream that occurred last night. At this dream I was at a party with four other people. I don't think I objectively recognized any of these people. We were all sitting on two couches and there was some sort of discussion going on. What I basically remember about the dream is that one person had a very condescending attitude towards me, a lack of acceptance. So I assume that this dream has something to do with lack of acceptance of self and maybe movement that I would like to make in that area or some recognition of that.

ELIAS: Partially, but more significantly what you have offered to yourself in this presentment of imagery is the challenge, the challenge of presenting yourself with this type of scenario in which you may be interactive with another individual that may be expressing a lack of acceptance and the challenge of how you shall express yourself, how you shall interact with another individual in the moment of that presentment.

Now; as I have stated, this is more so imagery in offering yourself a challenge rather than presenting to yourself imagery of time frameworks in which you are expressing a lack of acceptance of yourself. Partially that is the expression that occurs in these types of moments, for every expression that you present to yourself in relation to other individuals or any expression outside of yourself is a reflection of you. But this is more of an expression of challenge in how you shall interact in that type of scenario, whether you shall match the energy or whether you shall genuinely allow yourself to pay attention to you and generate an acceptance of yourself and of the other individual, regardless of their expression.

FRANK: So should I expect something like this objectively, or is that occurring all the time or...?

ELIAS: Yes to both. Ha ha ha!

FRANK: Okay, let me rephrase that. Should I expect some sort of a major episode of this at some time in the near future? (Elias laughs) It does occur all the time, obviously.

ELIAS: This is your choice of whether you shall generate that type of scenario or not; but I may express to you, you may not necessarily, for have offered yourself imagery to allow yourself an awareness of this type of interaction. But I may express to you also, there is a potential that you are generating within your energy to create that type of a scenario merely to experiment with your movement in relation to it.

FRANK: Ah, and I know it'll do me no good to ask you anything about that. (Elias laughs loudly)

ELIAS: You are quite correct!

FRANK: Well, I know you by now. Again I assume the purpose is to continue to develop in terms of self-acceptance and other people.

ELIAS: Yes, and offering yourself a scenario in which you may practice, and therefore offering yourself the experience in allowing yourself to accomplish in these types of scenarios.

FRANK: We'll see what happens. Maybe I'll have something to report next time we talk. (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: Or perhaps not, and you shall allow yourself to genuinely pay attention to you, and what you shall report is your accomplishment.

FRANK: That's a continuing challenge, isn't it? (Elias laughs)

I don't know if this comes under the heading of "it matters not" or whatever, but since we last talked I got hit with a big sort of semi-unexpected tax bill, and I'm kind of wondering why I created that.

ELIAS: And your impression?

FRANK: I almost think it might be similar to when my daughter dented my car, to sort of generate... I mean, I wasn't happy about it but it really didn't matter all that much to me, not like it would have at times in the past. Was it again under the heading of "it matters not?"

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct, to offer yourself another example of physical imagery of what you term to be THINGS that you acquire rather than generate and recognizing that this is merely another physical manifestation and that you actually do generate it and it genuinely matters not.

FRANK: Because again I kind of had the feeling like I wasn't thrilled about it, but I guess my attitude sort of was I'll find another way to acquire this money that I can use for whatever I want to do.

ELIAS: Or generate it.

FRANK: Or generate it. (Elias laughs) Yeah, exactly. I guess "generate" is a better way to put it. In fact that happened pretty shortly thereafter, when one of my business partners basically said, "Well, you should get bigger share of what's going on here," and started sending me more money...

ELIAS: Ah.

FRANK: ...which was kind of interesting.

ELIAS: Which you created.

FRANK: Yes, oh yes! I accept that.

ELIAS: Therefore you did not acquire it from your partner; you created it.

FRANK: Right, I created the energy that made it happen.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: Yes, I thought that was kind of interesting, and I suspected those two things went together and that that was sort of the imagery that was going on there.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct, which allows you to view your own expression of creativity, and as you present one expression to yourself that you assess generates a need, you also create the expression of the solution to the need.

FRANK: Right. Really it's another way of saying I think I'm getting more trust in myself.

ELIAS: Yes, and your ability to manipulate energy in a manner to generate what you want or what you perceive that you need.

Now; this is interesting practice, my friend, for generally speaking individuals within your physical dimension shall allow themselves to trust their ability to generate what they NEED more readily and prior to their allowance of themselves to generate what they WANT.

FRANK: Why is that?

ELIAS: You allow yourselves a type of push in motivation in relation to what you perceive to be needs. You shall motivate yourself to practice and allow your trust of your abilities if you perceive that what is being generated is a need, for you justify a need.

Wants, which you generate distinctions between wants and needs - although I may express to you they are all the same, but within your reality and your perception you express a distinction - and in relation to wants you incorporate influences of beliefs concerning worth. In relation to needs you do not express these beliefs concerning worth, for you justify the creation of fulfillment of needs.

FRANK: Right, if you need it you deserve it.

ELIAS: Correct, or you may not even express to yourself that you deserve it but that it is a necessity. Therefore there is no association with worth; there is merely what YOU term to be practicality, and you express this justification.

FRANK: It's interesting, because what I created in this event, both the bill and then the money subsequently came, I would say it was probably somewhere between a need and a want, if that makes sense to you.

ELIAS: I am understanding.

FRANK: I really didn't need to create that extra money.

ELIAS: I am understanding. But this is, in actuality, quite typical within your physical dimension. As you begin to trust your ability to generate and to create what you need or what you perceive that you need and you allow yourself to objectively view that you DO incorporate the ability to accomplish this, you begin to move in increments into an allowance of yourself to generate what you want. But this mixture of perception of partial want and partial need is, in a manner of speaking, an in-between step that MANY individuals incorporate in their movement, for movement into a complete allowance of yourself to generate the creations of wants without obstacles you view to be quite bold and at times even arrogant. (Frank chuckles)

There are tremendous associations in generating what you want with worth and value of self, and (humorously) oh no, you must not be valuing yourself too much! (Elias and Frank laugh) May the cosmos and the universe forbid that you actually allow yourself total freedom, for this shall be quite arrogant of you! (Laughs)

FRANK: But in reality we could have total freedom?

ELIAS: Quite! And this is the movement that you are generating now in association with this shift in consciousness.

FRANK: Boy, I can't wait to get there!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! (Distinctly) It is not a finish line!

FRANK: Okay, well, I understand.

ELIAS: Ha ha! It is an outcome in the moment and a movement onto the next outcome in the moment.

FRANK: You know what I mean.

ELIAS: Ha ha! Quite.

FRANK: That's pretty interesting. All right, let me ask you another question that maybe sort of relates to what we talked about with the projections earlier, maybe not. But after last time we talked, I wondered if it is possible for a person to operate in multiple probabilities and be conscious of that at the same time. Do you understand what I'm saying?

ELIAS: Yes. And yes, it is possible.

FRANK: But probably doesn't occur too often?

ELIAS: It is the choice of the individual and whether you allow your attention to incorporate that flexibility.

FRANK: Okay, but I could in fact do that.

ELIAS: Yes, you may.

Now; I may express to you that you may choose to be easing your attention into that type of expression, for it may be confusing and overwhelming initially, and there is a potential, which I have expressed from the onset of this forum to many individuals, that you may temporarily confuse your identity.

This is quite a temporary expression, but there is a tremendous potential of that type of expression to be occurring, for you are so very familiar with creating a specific expression of attention and holding your attention singularly. This is so very familiar to you that as you allow your attention to move and become more flexible and not as rigid in its singularity, the identity of the focus of attention may become blurred temporarily.

FRANK: And temporarily means how long in objective terms?

ELIAS: It is dependent upon the individual. The individual may incorporate a fearfulness in its confusion of this type of action, and in generating that fear the temporary expression may occur, in your terms, for a longer time framework.

But if you are recognizing what you are doing, in your terms, and you are allowing yourself an objective knowing that you are generating this action, it is not occurring TO you, and that you are choosing to allow this flexibility of your attention and not incorporating an expression of fear, it may in actuality be a momentary expression in identity.

Some individuals experience this confusion of identity in an expression of your linear time in months, some in merely moments.

FRANK: Do a lot of people do this?

ELIAS: It is being expressed more and more often and more commonly now as you have moved into your new century, for this also is another expression of movement of this shift in consciousness, relaxing your attention and allowing yourselves to open more fully within consciousness and become much more familiar with yourselves, and therefore recognizing more of your ability in what you may generate in actual physical manifestations.

FRANK: Let's just make sure we're talking about the same thing here. What I am suggesting is when myself right now, in this objective focus, is also aware and sort of participating in a different probable reality and has a remembrance of what's going on in both areas.

ELIAS: Yes, I am aware of what you are speaking of. What I am expressing to you is that as you allow yourselves to relax your attention, you may generate this type of action in which you are not necessarily blinking in and out any longer but allowing yourself to move your attention in flexibility and incorporate an objective awareness of more than one probability and aspect of yourself in actual physical manifestations simultaneously, for all of these probable realities are quite as physical as your own.

FRANK: Here's the next question, then. Would it be other probable realities where I'm me, or could it be any focus that I participate in?

ELIAS: Either. It may be either expression. It is your choice in which expression you choose to be allowing this flexibility of your attention. And I may express to you, beyond this of one or another, you may incorporate ALL of these expressions: other probable realities AND other focuses of yourself.

FRANK: It seems like a lot to keep track of.

ELIAS: It is dependent upon your allowance of your attention in its flexibility. If you hold to your attention in rigidity, you may overwhelm yourself.

FRANK: It only seems like a lot to keep track of because I'm limited, my consciousness is limited - I'm limiting myself.

ELIAS: Your consciousness is not limited, but you are familiar with singularity and this rigidity of the singularity, and the allowance of your attention to move in flexibility is unfamiliar.

FRANK: That sounds like an interesting thing. (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: This does allow you more of a recognition of your abilities, which does allow you a trust in what you may generate. For if you are allowing yourself to incorporate a flexibility of your attention, which is quite an unfamiliar action, if you ARE directing your attention in specific expressions, you validate that you may generate what you want in those specifics quite easily. If you are this vast...

FRANK: I can do anything I want.

ELIAS: Precisely. The mere viewing of the vastness of yourself validates to you objectively that you incorporate no obstacles in what you may create.

FRANK: Okay, I understand that. But let me come to what you said earlier about the confusion, the confusion that could be incurred by this. Is this what sometimes is going on when people are schizophrenic?

ELIAS: No. This is quite a different action, for this is a choice of the essence to focus an attention specifically to be incorporating an exploration of your physical dimension in a different manner.

Now; I may express to you, there are similarities, which I have expressed previously. That which you now identify within your physical societies as expressions of some mental dis-ease are in actuality more closely associated with what you are generating in this shift in consciousness, for there is an allowance of different types of expressions within physical manifestation. But essences choosing to be manifesting specific focuses of attention in manifestation that incorporate those expressions that you classify as mental dis-eases are quite intentionally choosing a different type of exploration of your physical dimension than is generally expressed in the officially accepted modality, so to speak.

FRANK: Well, I just want to make sure I don't get locked up or something. (Elias laughs) I assume probably the easiest way is to try to just explore one other probable reality at a time - you know, this one and another one simultaneously.

ELIAS: If you are so choosing, and this shall allow you to not be overwhelming yourself.

FRANK: And I also assume that projections are helpful?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: I can see a common theme through a lot of our conversations over the last few months (Elias chuckles) that led to this, so we'll see what happens there. We have these talks, and then often I don't think much about this until the next time we talk, and then I discover that this happened and that happened, and it's all sort of flowing along in a sort of a grand direction that I'm not paying a whole lot of attention to. I'm just busy living. (Elias chuckles)

The next thing I'd like to ask you about is - there isn't a whole lot of time - but one of the things that I've created over the past few months is interest on the part of other companies in buying the business that my partner and I started two years ago. One of the problems is I'm having getting started on some of the written materials that need to be put together to make a lot of this happen, and I'm just wondering why am I holding back on doing that. Could you maybe comment a little bit on my business partner's attitude about this whole thing and what he wants relative to what I want, where we're kind of going with this?

ELIAS: Offer explanation. What is your perception of the differences and similarities?

FRANK: I think that one of the similarities is that we're both sort of comfortable with the way things are, but one of the differences is he's a lot more comfortable than I am. That probably is maybe one of the big things. Also, I think I probably have a desire to create something that's very, very large or certainly a lot larger than we are right now. I think he would like to do that but not to anywhere near the same extent that I do. I guess the way I see it is that we are very similar in many ways, but there's two sides to an issue. In certain aspects of this thing I'm much more focused on one element, where he's much more focused on another element. I wouldn't say it's led to conflict but it certainly could.

ELIAS: And as you are aware, this is also your choice whether you generate that conflict or not. For if it is generated, you generate it.

But I may express to you, in this time framework what you are expressing within your energy, which you are translating into an identification of comfort, is also in actuality a hesitation. For you view this to be your creation, and you are hesitating and in a manner of speaking procrastinating for you are evaluating within yourself and offering yourself a time framework in which you may listen to yourself concerning what you actually want. For there is a question within yourself concerning [that] if you move too quickly presently you may not necessarily generate the volume that you want to generate. Are you understanding?

FRANK: I think so. Just the last part about if I move too quickly I worry about generating, did you say the volume?

ELIAS: Yes. You wish to generate a considerable volume in relation to this business. Your terms are that you wish it to be large.

In this, in this time framework, you are procrastinating to allow yourself a time framework in which you may listen to yourself and generate more clarity, for you are questioning within yourself your ability to generate the type of volume that you want if you are moving too quickly in relation to what is being offered. Be remembering, you are presenting the offer to yourself. Therefore, you are merely allowing yourself a time framework in which you may evaluate more clearly what you are actually creating and whether it is satisfactory in relation to the volume that you want. Is this clearer?

FRANK: Yeah, a little bit. Is it also a case of I'm not really sure... I say that I want to develop this thing with a larger volume, but maybe deep down I'm not really sure about that.

ELIAS: Precisely, and this is what you are allowing yourself a time framework to listen to yourself concerning, that you may more clearly evaluate what you want in this now. For you may eventually want to be generating much more volume, but that is a projection futurely. What you are offering to yourself presently is an opportunity to listen to yourself concerning what you want NOW.

FRANK: Boy, that's helpful. Because what I think is, actually, as we discussed last time we talked, things are just moving faster and faster, and I just feel very overwhelmed with work and decisions and things like that.

ELIAS: Let me express to you, my friend, this is significant that you are allowing yourself a time framework to be listening to yourself, for although you may view potentials of what you want futurely, be remembering it is quite significant and important that you pay attention to now and what you want now.

For as I have expressed previously, in this time framework presently there is a tremendous movement en masse in energy which is generating the presentment within you all in relation to what you want, your allowance of yourselves to create what you want, and your allowance of yourselves to choose in what you shall allow in openness and exposure. Many, many, many individuals are addressing to this movement in relation to what you term to be business.

FRANK: Is that why everybody's so busy?

ELIAS: Quite.

FRANK: Actually, I think in my case there's also a fear and I guess a lack of trust. It's like these opportunities are here now but they may not be here in the future, so I better do something with them right now. I really need to come to the realization that they'll be there whenever I want them to be there.

ELIAS: Precisely, and allowing yourself the recognition [that] they SHALL be generated futurely if you choose to generate them for they are your creations, and allow yourself to recognize whether you actually want to be generating that type of action presently and continue to generate comfort and not overwhelm yourself and what you are willing to choose in exposure of yourself.

FRANK: Interesting. Because in those terms, I sit here and I think I'm not sure I want to change a whole lot, as far as that goes. I'm not sure I want the extra work and all those sorts of things.

ELIAS: Correct, and this is the opportunity that you are presenting to yourself to LISTEN to what you want now.

FRANK: Which hasn't been one of my strong suits. (Elias laughs)

ELIAS: You are quite accomplished at projecting futurely! Ha ha!

FRANK: The interesting thing is that this opportunity that arose, it really sort of popped up late last year and I have, as you say, I've been procrastinating and - I don't know if "avoiding" is the right word but certainly not pushing it forward - and having this questioning about what do I want. Now another one has popped up just in the past couple weeks that I've created objectively seemingly out of nowhere - but I realize that I have created it - that in fact might be closer to what I'm interested in.

ELIAS: And also an allowance of yourself to validate to yourself that in actuality you may create this type of expression at any moment. Therefore you may also allow yourself the freedom to create or to choose what you want NOW, for what you may want within the future may differ from what you want now, and you incorporate the same ability to generate in the future that you generate now.

FRANK: It's interesting you say that, because it seems like so many of the things that I do, and I think people in general do, are based on I guess fear of the future and that I'd better save money now for the future; I'd better do this or that for the future because of the fear that I may not be able to do it then.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: So it really is a very liberating thing.

ELIAS: Quite.

FRANK: Well, our time is pretty well up here. But one last quick one I want to ask you about. For whatever reason - not that I focus a lot of energy on this, but I've learned that I don't really need to focus a lot of energy on these things - but I don't seem to get any impressions when I try to zero in on other focuses I've had with my parents or my brother, my objective parents or brother. Why is that?

ELIAS: You are not incorporating a strong curiosity in this time framework.

FRANK: Well, why not? You're right, also, by the way. I'm just wondering why is it that I don't seem to care about that?

ELIAS: Your attention is moving much more in concentration of yourself and in relation to your objective imagery and interactions. In this, you do not generate much of an exploration of focuses in which you merely view yourself, but you incorporate some curiosity; therefore you allow yourself at some time periods to incorporate brief viewings of some of your focuses, but of you individually.

But in relation to other individuals or family members, in a manner of speaking your attention does not incorporate a curiosity to be investigating of this. In a manner of speaking, you incorporate a thought to attempt that action merely in time frames in which you are bored. (Frank laughs) Therefore in your terms, in your language, you incorporate this action as the last resort in a moment of boredom: "Very well, I shall attempt to be discovering a focus in which I am interactive with my parents or my sibling - or perhaps not." There is not a genuine curiosity in this action, my friend. (Both laugh) Therefore there is also not a cosmic blockage preventing you from viewing these types of focuses.

FRANK: That's interesting. Well, thank you. It's been a pleasure, as always.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! As always, quite playful! I express to you my anticipation of our next meeting and your report. Ha ha ha!

FRANK: Hopefully it'll be as much fun as this time.

ELIAS: Very well, my dear friend, to you in tremendous affection as always, au revoir.

FRANK: Goodbye.

Elias departs at 11:48 AM.

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