Friday, March 8, 2002 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Sherry (Seale)
Elias arrives at 1:04 PM. (Arrival time is 22 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

SHERRY: Good morning.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) We meet again!

SHERRY: Yes, we do!

ELIAS: Very well, you may begin.

SHERRY: I'm calmer, I think, than I have been in the last several months when I've called you. At the beginning, I just want to ask you some clarifying questions about my impressions. Is Jack, my boss' dog, and the dog that I had as a child the same energy? (Pause)

ELIAS: Reconfigured, yes.

SHERRY: Oh golly, I got this! Then what about Emmy and Sarge, the puppy that I had at my grandfather's when I was younger? Well, I mean, no, older than the first question?

ELIAS: An aspect of that energy expression, but not entirely.

SHERRY: Now what does that mean "aspect"?

ELIAS: At times...

SHERRY: It wasn't that strong, but there was something there and I could read that.

ELIAS: Yes. At times as the energy reconfigures, the expression of consciousness may project an aspect of that consciousness in another manifestation, but not the entirety of that energy expression may be configured in a single manifestation. Are you understanding?

SHERRY: Yes, I understand that the energy did not seem as strong.

ELIAS: Yes.

SHERRY: So with Jack and Laddie it was the same energy, but just reconfigured differently. But this one wasn't. That was the difference. It wasn't that strong because it was just an aspect.

ELIAS: Yes.

SHERRY: Okay, got it. I was watching the movie "Elizabeth I" and that seemed familiar to me. At least if I'm not her, then I am dealing with some of those same aspects of men issues and who she was and that sort of thing. So can you address that? Is that incorrect?

ELIAS: No, you are correct. I may express to you that you do incorporate a focus in that court as a lady in that court, and there are some similarities of beliefs and expressions that you exhibit within this focus as you do in that focus.

SHERRY: Oh, cool. So I am getting closer about getting this.

Bridgy, essence Thelma or refragmented or whatever, she wants to know if she was the Spanish half sister to Elizabeth I, with father being Henry VIII? (Pause)

ELIAS: No, but you may offer to this individual that she also incorporates a focus in that time framework which is known to that individual, what you term to be a friend.

SHERRY: She incorporates a focus but not as the Spanish half sister to Elizabeth I?

ELIAS: Correct, a friend.

SHERRY: Oh, a friend to Elizabeth I?

ELIAS: No, a friend to the focus that she is inquiring about.

SHERRY: Oh, the Spanish one, okay.

ELIAS: Yes.

SHERRY: But she and I knew each other back then, yes?

ELIAS: Yes.

SHERRY: So she was in the Spanish court and I was in the English court, but we still knew each other?

ELIAS: Yes.

SHERRY: Oh wow, so we're doing pretty good!

Okay, let's see; let's go to the other shorter ones. When my computer, my email was doing that funky stuff, and I didn't get numbers, I got the smiley face, was that Rose energy?

ELIAS: No, in actuality, my friend, this was your energy offering you validations.

SHERRY: Oh, no! See, that's what I don't get! I don't understand probably because I'm still thinking on some level that somebody else is creating it, yes?

ELIAS: Partially, yes. Ha ha ha!

SHERRY: Oh gee! Because I understood when I got up that morning that I had understood that my computer issues were about my own issues that I was dealing with.

ELIAS: Yes, and you offered yourself validation.

SHERRY: Yes. I knew when the smile came that it had changed, but I didn't know if that was me or who it was. Okay, thank you.

Then what were the two eagles? I'm still not sure about the message or the connection with that imagery, when the one day I saw the bald eagle on the ground and then on the next day the gold eagle.

ELIAS: And your impression?

SHERRY: I knew you were going to ask me that. What I wrote down is that the gold eagle was to remind me about my essence color, but my beliefs have changed now because of your information. I have a hard time now defining what eagles stand for, for me. I don't look at things as separate, like spiritual. Like before I used to equate them with God talking to me or the angels talking, you know what I mean, or some higher level. But now I know there aren't any levels, so now what do I do with these two eagles?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, my friend, you continue to present certain imagery in a very similar manner to how you have presented it to yourself previously, but you also have redefined some of your associations with spirituality and now may recognize that the symbols continue to be valid in similar manner to your associations previously but not in association with God or celestial beings but with yourself as the being that you are, as God yourself, so to speak.

SHERRY: So the message from the both of those...? I knew I had made a change by creating them to be the one gold rather than the bald eagle, but I didn't understand what that meant to me. I knew it was validation because any time I get those birds that's a big deal to me. I knew I was giving myself support or validation.

ELIAS: Correct. You are offering yourself validation and the validation that you offer to yourself is an appreciation of you. You image the one, as you have stated correctly, in association with your color to be offering you imagery associated with you, not with some expression outside of you. You offer yourself the other creature as an expression of appreciation of your own gloriousness and your ability to soar.

SHERRY: Oh yes, so the color was about me and my own self, as I am getting there, that I really am appreciating who I genuinely am.

ELIAS: Correct.

SHERRY: Oh, thank you, this is pretty exciting. I have been trying to connect with my dreams and other focuses, trying to understand how they play a part in this dimension. That dream I had with George and me being held by some men, was that tapping into another focus?

ELIAS: Yes.

SHERRY: Oh, I had it right! Oh cool!

There's an orca that has been hanging around this area, a baby orca. I have felt this need to go, especially after asking when the dolphins were here when I went to the prison and they showed up. But I've been really having this desire or this need to go be close to one, to be able to touch one and see what comes - I mean a wild one - to see what kind of information I can gain from that. So is this particular orca why that's still here?

ELIAS: It is your imagery to yourself concerning your desire and offering yourself objective imagery in association with your motivation.

SHERRY: I'm not sure about what you mean about my motivation, because if it's black and white then that means... Are we talking about that I'm not clear about what my motivation is, that there's duplicity there?

ELIAS: No, not necessarily. What I am expressing to you is that you are generating objective imagery in association with your desire to be objectively interactive.

SHERRY: Oh, so I can go do it with that one because that's what I'm creating.

ELIAS: If you are so choosing, yes.

SHERRY: Oh, yes. No, I am. That's why I think it is still there. I'm still working on trusting those impressions that I get, you know?

This energy thing, I'm confused about something and this is what I wanted to talk to you about a little bit today. You said that I create everything in my reality and I understand that. But what I don't understand is that before you said that I was understanding what the world was like or whatever and that I could read the energy of other trees and other people and that sort of thing. So the part that's confusing me is if I can read mountains or rocks or trees or other people, then at what point does it come to be...? I don't know how to say this. If somebody else is just there, I can read their energy of what they're projecting out, or are you saying I'm creating what they're projecting out, too?

ELIAS: Partially both, for you are interactive with the energy expression of the other individual. This is what you are directly engaging of the other individual, is their energy expression.

SHERRY: But their energy expression is their expression created by them or created by me?

ELIAS: Their energy expression projected to you is their creation and their expression, but...

SHERRY: That's the part I thought... Because that's how I originally understood it.

ELIAS: Once you receive that energy, you configure it and create a projection through your perception and manifest the actual physical expression.

SHERRY: Sometimes people say... Like I read things that they are not even aware of and then later they come back and say that they saw that I could read it. My understanding about what I was doing was that I actually read what was happening with them from their behavior or whatever. My understanding is when it comes to me I can either choose to act on it, react to it and respond to it however I choose to at that moment?

ELIAS: Yes.

SHERRY: So that makes sense. Can I give you an example to make sure that I really get this?

ELIAS: Very well.

SHERRY: Maybe we can just not put this in for public because I don't want this person to have this if they don't want to discuss it. This lady I hadn't met, I met her at the Castaic session. She wanted to take pictures of me for this other individual that she was then getting involved with, but I didn't feel comfortable. I just asked her if she would just talk to me about her because I didn't understand why all this was about him. It didn't feel like she was really addressing about him. It felt like there was some fear there on her part. When I talked to her about it, she said she wasn't feeling any of that but I felt it coming from her.

ELIAS: I am understanding.

Now; let us examine this scenario in your example. At times the other individual may be expressing quite genuinely to you that they are not incorporating an objective awareness of what you may be receiving in an energy projection.

SHERRY: Because they're not aware of it.

ELIAS: Objectively, correct.

SHERRY: Okay, that's it, and that's what I told her because she was saying I was wrong about it. I said no, I just know me that I feel things or see things at a pretty deep level. Not deep meaning levels, just for clarification, but I see things that a lot of people don't even recognize about themselves.

ELIAS: I am understanding, my friend, but this also is worthy of your examination within yourself. For what motivates you to offer the information objectively?

SHERRY: To her? Because I wasn't comfortable. I wanted to know who she was. I didn't like the feel of that energy, like it wasn't what was really happening.

ELIAS: Very well, but you may assess an energy expression and you may recognize what is being projected or generated by another individual and you may thusly create your choices of whether you wish to be interactive or compliant with certain scenarios, but this does not necessitate your objective expression of identification to the other individual.

What I am expressing to you is that hypothetically you may be presented with an individual in a situation similar to what you have expressed in your example. You may be recognizing of a particular energy expression being projected by the other individual, but you may generate your choices and it is not necessary for you to offer explanation to the other individual of what you are recognizing.

This is what I am expressing to you is worthy of your examination within you. You may present yourself with another individual and you may be experiencing an uncomfortableness in relation to their energy expression and you may choose not to be interactive with them. You have presented yourself this scenario quite purposefully to allow yourself to view your response and therefore allow yourself to examine your motivation.

SHERRY: Right, but I didn't want to ignore her or just say... I would rather know if somebody was having a problem with me about why, if it was something I was doing that I didn't even recognize. So in essence what I was doing was sharing with her how I would want to be treated if I was in the opposite side of that. That was my understanding.

ELIAS: I am understanding of your identification, but let me offer a different example in a hypothetical situation. Hypothetically we shall say that you present yourself with another individual and the individual approaches you and requests your presence to engage lunch together.

Now; the other individual in association with this request may say to you, "I wish to engage lunch with you and discuss my relationship with another individual, for it is confusing to me."

Now; you may be receiving an energy projection from the other individual which they are not verbally communicating to you, and in that recognition of energy which may be different from the objective verbal communication, you may experience a confusing or uncomfortable expression within yourself.

SHERRY: Exactly, and that's happened all my life.

ELIAS: Now; you may be paying attention to what you are recognizing in the energy expression and you may allow yourself to choose a response that offers you no conflict. You may express to the other individual, "No, I choose not to be engaging interaction with you at lunch and I do not wish to be discussing this scenario with you."

Now; it is unnecessary for you to express to the other individual the explanation of the energy that you have recognized, for the individual is not offering you an objective communication nor is the individual requesting that explanation. Are you understanding?

SHERRY: Yes, but don't you think they're going to be not understanding? That's what I'm concerned with.

ELIAS: That is YOUR concern.

SHERRY: That they're not going to understand why I don't want to do it when they're not even reading it. So that's about me, me not being comfortable with me saying no when I know they're not going to understand it.

ELIAS: Correct.

SHERRY: Okay, got it.

ELIAS: Therefore you are offering to the other individual, which they have not requested, to be justifying your choice. It is unnecessary for you to justify your choice. The reason that you justify your choice is an expression of a lack of acceptance of yourself.

SHERRY: Exactly. Wow! Now I'm really glad I asked you about this. Thank you very, very much about this.

ELIAS: Allow yourself...

SHERRY: Oh brother! I was going to ask you about this sadness that I keep having and it's here right now again. I mean there's tears in my eyes. Now, is this about so much lack of acceptance?

ELIAS: You generate this emotional communication in relation to denying your own choices of what you genuinely want and not offering yourself permission to generate the choices of what you want. As you deny choices to yourself, my friend, you do generate a communication identifying that action and this generates the signal of sadness.

SHERRY: I think the emotion made me blink out, so I didn't catch all that. What I'm thinking I heard is that the sadness is showing me how I deny allowing myself permission?

ELIAS: Yes. (Pause)

SHERRY: This is really, really deep. (Emotionally) Oh brother.

ELIAS: This is associated...

SHERRY: That just reminded me of something I forgot to ask you about Sarge, the puppy at my grandfather's. I never did find out what happened to him when I couldn't bring it back when he gave it to me and my mom wouldn't let me keep it. What happened to it? My feeling is that it didn't live very long after that.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

SHERRY: Did my grandfather get rid of him?

ELIAS: Yes.

SHERRY: Oh, gee. (Emotionally) So if I would have believed at that time that I wasn't a victim of what my mother's wishes were, then I would have been able to keep him?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes.

SHERRY: (Continuing emotionally) So what's the thing about me and Emmy, about why she isn't here yet? Is that still me working on me?

ELIAS: Yes, and recognizing your abilities and trusting your abilities.

SHERRY: I am, but not enough, you're saying? Because I go by there. It feels closest to me to go by where she was and that I connect mostly with her. I go by there with this expectation or hope that she'll be there and I'll just be able to get her, put her in the car and take her.

ELIAS: My friend, as I have expressed to you previously, you are attempting to generate identically configuring this energy expression once again, and I have expressed to you, within consciousness although you do create all of your reality through your perception and generate the actual physical manifestations, recognize that you also incorporate quite strong beliefs, and in this, your beliefs suggest to you and influence your perception that you may not materialize this exact configuration of energy and consciousness which has disengaged. Therefore, what you may allow yourself to generate is a reconfiguration of that energy and materialize another creature with that energy expression.

I am not expressing to you that it is impossible for you to be materializing what you express as the exact energy configuration of that creature once again, but I am expressing to you that the beliefs that you incorporate in strength influence you in a manner in which you are not generating that type of action. But in relation to your beliefs, you may allow yourself quite realistically to reconfigure the energy expression [and] create another creature with the same type of energy configuration or expression. Are you understanding?

SHERRY: I am. So you're saying I need to do some acceptance of some beliefs before I can reconfigure her exactly?

ELIAS: Yes. But you have presented yourself with a recognition purposely of two other creatures to offer yourself objective imagery of what you may allow yourself now. You have presented the inquiry to myself this morning.

SHERRY: About the orca?

ELIAS: No.

SHERRY: Or the eagles?

ELIAS: No.

SHERRY: Oh, forget it then!

ELIAS: Of the other two dogs: is this one dog a reconfiguration of the energy expression of another dog, and I have validated your impression. You have offered yourself this imagery purposefully to offer yourself information that you may generate that type of manifestation incorporating the same energy qualities and reconfiguring that into the manifestation of another creature.

SHERRY: But if I really, really did want her, then what belief do I need to accept, the belief that I can't materialize?

ELIAS: Correct.

SHERRY: Well, how do I do that?

ELIAS: In the same manner that you allow yourself to be accepting any belief.

SHERRY: Yeah, well, I have a hard time with that in words. (Elias chuckles) I mean, it just happens.

ELIAS: The manner in which you accept a belief is to be recognizing that you incorporate it, discontinuing judgment of it, discontinuing the attempt to eliminate it, and merely allowing yourself to express choice regardless of the influence of the belief.

SHERRY: I thought I was doing that. Okay, I will go back and work on accepting it. I mean really accepting that I have that belief.

ELIAS: And remembering that thinking is not necessarily accepting.

SHERRY: I know. That's the part I'm having trouble with because I don't know the process of when I accept something and when I don't. I just know when I've done it. You know what I mean? It's like I understand when I get to the part where I've accepted it and I recognize that. But I don't understand the in-between part yet. I'm not familiar with that part.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) And this is the reason that I continue to express to you to be paying attention to what you are creating, to be paying attention to what you are actually generating or doing, for this shall offer you more information in association with the process.

SHERRY: Well, right. I knew I was blocking because I don't have Emmy. I do believe that I can do it because I've done other things. So that part I do understand. But I don't think maybe I realized how big this belief was. I must be denying that, otherwise it would have happened already.

The other thing is about court. It's like I'm in this transition period, and I'm wondering if that's shifting, too. I wanted to speed up things so I got that part back. Originally when I first started like that, I think I did feel more like I was a victim. You know, when all that happened and they took my license.

I created that, but now it's not about that. Can the same imagery be happening? Part of that was being created back then, about no, we don't need a high-powered expensive lawyer to have justice. And I'm still saying that. I still want to create that, that I can go into court without a lawyer and have the truth be or the facts be enough to get what I desire.

ELIAS: And what is your question?

SHERRY: In this aspect when they reversed the decision about what the A.L.J. said and said that I had to go to a whole different court level for them to reverse the department's findings because they didn't have the power to do that in that system, in that administrative body. At first it felt like it was going backwards. I mean, then that triggered all the victim things again.

ELIAS: To offer yourself the opportunity to continue to examine this expression within yourself and how easily you generate that expression in relation to choices that you view being created outside of yourself, allowing other individuals to dictate to you what your choices shall be or denying your choices in association with the expressions of other individuals or institutions or your society. Which is not moving backwards, my friend, it is allowing yourself to continue practicing and continue to validate yourself.

SHERRY: And that's why I got the smiley face, right? When I woke up and I realized that's what was going on inside of me...

ELIAS: Yes.

SHERRY: ...when I got calm and got out of the fear thing and started focusing on what I wanted to create.

ELIAS: Correct.

SHERRY: Oh good, this is cool.

I can still recognize your energy, but I haven't been able to talk to you. Is there anything that you can say to me now that you see that might be helpful?

I'm still working on getting rid of my stuff. I feel like so much is changing. I'm not sure where I'm going with myself. It's like I'm sorting through to downsize, because I'm trying to listen to that impression that I need to get whatever I have to fit inside my van. (Laughs) I think because I'm mobile, because that's what I feel like, like things are going to be changing or I'm going to be moving inside of myself and that will also incorporate moving outside, where I will be physically moving.

ELIAS: I am understanding, and in this you are imaging to yourself outside clutter, so to speak, and the desire to be focusing your attention upon you and not concerning yourself with the outside clutter. This is the reason that you are experiencing this drive, so to speak, to be eliminating objects outwardly. This is the imagery that you create in reflection of what you are generating inwardly, continuing to turn your attention to yourself more and more and not concerning yourself with what is being expressed outside of yourself.

SHERRY: I get that part, and I know that there is more flow inside of me too because my computer... I mean getting that mouse that just flows. There's an ease of the movement. My old mouse was sticking and driving me crazy. And getting it highly tuned by putting in more memory and the bigger processor, and even starting my new business of Seale's Litenotes. The same thing that's inside of me, that I'm becoming more genuinely aware of what it is I want to do.

ELIAS: Correct.

SHERRY: I just still haven't figured out how I'm going to do it. I'm trusting about what you say about the part that I can create anything. I'm trying to listen each moment and create in each moment what feels most comfortable to me or most what I desire, but I still haven't got a real picture of how that's going to look, like where I'm going to be or what exactly I'm going to be doing.

ELIAS: I am understanding. But I shall also be acknowledging of you that this is significant movement that you are generating in allowing yourself to practice holding your attention within the now and noticing each moment and not concerning yourself with projecting your attention futurely.

SHERRY: Isn't that amazing that I'm actually doing it? (Laughs with Elias) I remember we had lots of talks about this way back then.

ELIAS: And you validate yourself, do you not, my friend, that you do in actuality incorporate this ability to be holding your attention within the now and noticing what you are generating in the moment and allowing yourself to actually view choices in the moment.

SHERRY: Yeah, that's pretty cool! And that I can come back when I get knocked out of it and get into the future. It doesn't take me too long before I can get myself back again.

ELIAS: Correct, for this is becoming more familiar.

SHERRY: Oh yes! And let me tell you it feels much, much better! (Laughs)

ELIAS: For you offer yourself tremendous freedom as you pay attention in the now.

SHERRY: It just feels weird and kind of spacey and still a little scary because I'm used to having a picture and going for that, and now I don't have a picture. I'm doing things differently.

ELIAS: Correct. But as you are aware and as you have been noticing, this type of expression moves much more in conjunction with this shift in consciousness and therefore generates much more of an ease within you and actually does generate much more freedom in your expressions.

SHERRY: Yes, I feel that part. Not that I was as tight as I was before and tense...

ELIAS: Correct.

SHERRY: ...even though things seems to be really speeding.

ELIAS: It may...

SHERRY: I don't feel like anything has really slowed down. (Elias chuckles) I don't have a sense that it's going to slow down, either.

ELIAS: But you are participating in this swiftness, and although at times you may objectively express to yourself within your thoughts that you wish for a slower expression of movement, in actuality your genuine want is to be continuing in this swiftness.

SHERRY: Exactly. Like I said, I want to get to the place of feeling what it feels like when I'm in the shift, because I didn't like what it felt like before the shift.

ELIAS: And you are generating that expression now.

SHERRY: So the time is almost over, and we have eight minutes left. Is there anything that you can share with me about anything that you're noticing that I might not have noticed yet that would make my ease easier?

ELIAS: I may express to you, my friend, allow yourself to genuinely be paying attention to your emotional communications. For I am recognizing that you offer these communications to yourself at times and at times you attempt to be intentionally ignoring of them.

SHERRY: Oh yes. That was one of those things I was going to talk to you about. I mean, I discount them so swiftly. I realize that, but it happens so fast!

ELIAS: Allow yourself to be paying attention. Not merely noticing in the moment that you generate an emotional signal and therefore are also generating a communication, but allow yourself once you have noticed the signal to pay attention and not dismiss the signal and to allow yourself to pay attention to what you are generating within your communications. For I am recognizing that within your expression, and frequently recently, you are dismissing and attempting to be ignoring the communication and at times even the signal.

SHERRY: Can you give me one example?

ELIAS: I may express to you the example that you have offered in your questioning to myself this day, this signal of sadness. You generate this signal frequently and at times you pay attention. But you also many times attempt to be ignoring this communication, for you deem it to be uncomfortable. But as you attempt to ignore or dismiss the signal and distract yourself with another expression, you also continue to generate this signal and this communication more often.

SHERRY: Yes, and I recognize that.

ELIAS: Therefore, I offer the suggestion to you that you allow yourself to practice noticing and paying attention to these emotional communications rather than attempting dismiss or ignore them, for they merely become louder, my friend.

SHERRY: Well, I have been asking and that's the part you're saying, that I am trying to communicate with myself when I do notice.

ELIAS: Yes.

SHERRY: But are most of these dealing with me discounting myself or denying my choice?

ELIAS: Many of these communications do concern that action, but you also are generating other communications in validation to yourself.

You pay attention to the validations. You are attempting to ignore the communications in which you are identifying moments in which you are denying your choices. But these are significant communications, my friend, for in these communications you allow yourself to recognize that denial of choice and therefore offer yourself the opportunity to generate choice and therefore once again validate yourself.

SHERRY: Yeah, when I can show myself that I'm outside again thinking somebody else is in control because I've denied what I could do, and then putting myself back in and focusing on within and to project out.

ELIAS: Correct.

SHERRY: So I am getting some of it. Well, I think our time is up. My, this has been a very calm session! (Laughs)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! You are practicing!

SHERRY: (Laughs) Thank you very, very much again.

ELIAS: I am acknowledging of you, my friend, and I shall be anticipating our next meeting, and I shall be offering my expression of encouragement in energy to you.

SHERRY: Oh yes, and can we have some playfulness?

ELIAS: Quite.

SHERRY: I'm looking forward to that.

ELIAS: And I also. In tremendous affection to you as always, my friend, au revoir.

SHERRY: Au revoir.

Elias departs at 2:04 PM.

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