Session 963

Validating the Concepts


”Validating the Concepts”

Monday, November 19, 2001 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Anjuli (Miranda)
Elias arrives at 11:45 AM. (Arrival time is 26 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

ANJULI: Good afternoon, Elias. (Elias chuckles) It’s great to talk with you again.

This time I want to learn something about my energies during the sessions and after the sessions, because I get a kind of impression about the sessions we so far have had, and how the sessions were and how they are kind of designed and fit together as if I planned them - but I didn’t, but in some way maybe I had subjectively - and then also the insights I have during the sessions.

I noticed that in the last session my energies were different. I had difficulties a little bit because I was not so much prepared for the session, and I had created some situations before the session which had got me into difficulties. Then I discovered that even that was kind of perfect in its creation; it definitely worked. So then again the week afterwards was created out of that session.

ELIAS: I am understanding. And what is your question concerning these interactions and events?

ANJULI: I would like to understand what this excitement is that I have during the sessions. I know it is different in each session, but I would like to understand that feeling.

ELIAS: What you allow yourself in the time framework of our interactions is an openness to the energy exchange between yourself and myself.

Now; you may recognize that within our previous session you did not allow the extent of openness that you generally allow in our interactions, for you were also creating a distraction. Therefore your attention, in a manner of speaking, was divided.

But generally speaking, you do allow for an openness of yourself to be experiencing and recognizing objectively the subjective interaction that occurs in an energy exchange between yourself and myself. Your translation of this objectively is defined in excitement, for you are offering yourself the translation of generating much movement in energy in interaction between us.

ANJULI: Yes, so I had the same feeling with the last session, and of course I missed this experience of openness, of easiness of flow and the subjective connection with you, and I also felt the difference afterwards.

ELIAS: Correct. For...

ANJULI: Very clearly, yes.

ELIAS: Let me express to you, my friend, generally speaking, as you and I interact, you do create this openness and therefore allow an exchange of energy with myself which you recognize in this subjective movement and it is quite playful, and this is the reason that you objectively define it as excitement. But within our previous conversation your attention was distracted, and you were expressing much more of a seriousness and not allowing for the same playfulness that you generally express.

ANJULI: (Chuckles) Yes. Later, when I thought about this session and listened to the tape of the fourth session, because I got that tape, in the fourth session you said it depends on how my perception is about something, and I can use anything as a tool. Then I thought when I don’t judge myself for this session, I can create something out of that session when I change my perception about it.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Yes, so I was interested in how this week unfolded, and I thought about that day of the last session and what I created on that day, and I saw that it was a loud phone-ringing, a very loud one.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Therefore you are noticing.

ANJULI: Oh, yes, yes, I definitely am so much noticing! (Both laugh) It worked!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! And what information did you offer to yourself in noticing this loud telephone ringing?

ANJULI: I discovered that in spite of knowing that I am creating my reality and that everything I am surrounding myself with is a kind of imagery that is in that moment created, not coming from the past, it is kind of created again and again. I saw that it had been still much more a concept to me.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Not fully, because I sometimes experience it differently, but a bit it was still a concept for me.

ELIAS: Correct, and this is significant information, for this allows you to pay attention more closely and offers you the opportunity to be experimenting with this concept and therefore allowing yourself to move the concept into more of a reality.

ANJULI: Yesterday I had an experience during meditation. The day started very early; I woke up early. I started with sleep patterns again. I have used these short nights in the past also, but I had some beliefs around tiredness during the day. This time I had read your sessions, and Axel also told me about his session with you about sleep patterns of soft ones, and so this time yesterday I woke myself up. I used some nosebleeding for that - I am using that quite often - and then I was awake early and started into the day with this new discovery about sleep patterns.

Then I had during the day more subjective experiences, and I had a meditation that was very special. In this meditation I experienced what had been a concept before. For the experience, I again created a little bit of some ... like I heard my parents and I felt that they expected me to come down, but the meditation was so blissful and I discovered that I am wanting to tell myself that I don’t allow myself the freedom I really like and that I still didn’t believe that I can do what I like to do. Then I sat there during meditation, and my reality felt more like the imageries I am using and also my body felt much less heavy. There was much more lightness.

ELIAS: Correct, and in this, as you continue to practice and hold your attention within self, you allow yourself experiences to validate yourself and move the concept more into an expression of reality. But I may express to you also that in interaction with other individuals this may be much more challenging, but it also offers you a much more solid, so to speak, example of how you in actuality DO create through your perception and that you do hold the ability to be creating what you want. The challenge is expressed in moments of interaction with other individuals or even merely in the perceived energy which is being projected by other individuals, and in those moments actually continuing to hold your attention upon self and simultaneously be recognizing the objective imagery that you are generating. Are you understanding?

ANJULI: Yes. Since then I also have the feeling when I am running around that I don’t see my reality as solid anymore. It feels as if I have put some playful energy into it, like I am ready to experience unexpected things, and I feel that when I am running around.

ELIAS: I am understanding, for this also, in a manner of speaking, is incorporated, as you have stated, as another tool to continue holding your attention upon self. For, you facilitate this action of holding your attention upon self by creating a playful action that is curious to you and that appears significantly different from what is familiar to you.

I may express to you, my friend, within physical focus in this particular dimension, concerning your beliefs, individuals generate conflict and confusion many times to be moving their attention. For you create a perception that if you are generating an expression that appears to you or that you deem to be negative, you shall pay attention, and these types of expressions shall hold your attention; but I may also express to you that in generating a playfulness, this type of action also is quite powerful in its ability to turn and hold your attention as effectively as creating expressions of conflict.

It is merely that you are unfamiliar objectively with allowing yourselves to be playful and that you deem the lack of seriousness to not be expressing efficiently an exploration of whatever direction you choose to be moving into. You place a great value upon the expression of seriousness in relation to any movement that you generate that you assess to be valuable. In actuality, allowing yourself to be expressing playfulness in relation to movements that you value creates much more of an ease and much less thickness in your accomplishment.

This is the reason that I am continuously encouraging individuals to be playful! Ha ha ha! And you have offered yourself an efficient example of the difference of allowing yourself an openness and also allowing yourself to assimilate information which is expressed between yourself and myself in generating playfulness, generally speaking, and thusly creating an experience in which you are not expressing that playfulness and experiencing the thickness, which is created in association with that type of expression.

ANJULI: And then feeling the difference.

ELIAS: Correct, which offers you information concerning the effectiveness and the efficiency of allowing yourself to be playful.

ANJULI: Regarding playfulness, Elias, I still have one thunderstorm story which I so far have not told.

ELIAS: Very well.

ANJULI: It’s my favorite one. (Elias laughs) Yes, that was after the other thunderstorm stories. I was already living here and I was watching TV. There was a series of movies on TV about a forester and his family, and they are living here in this area of the Bavarian Forest where I live. I like that movie because of the forest and the family, so my Milumet/Borledim is happy there! (Laughs) I watched that and then a thunderstorm was starting, and I had a similar feeling as with this past thunderstorm with the ’thunderstorm-being’ in the academy, so I kind of felt linked to that thunderstorm.

The thunderstorm hit the TV station and then the TV didn’t work anymore, and I had a playful feeling about that. I felt that some game had started and I was excited about that. I wanted to continue with watching TV, and I felt some beings, those which usually surround me or I am familiar with, close to me. I asked them if they could please make my TV work again, and I felt they thought it is probably boring. Then I said we could maybe start a game and we could play that the TV would start again in a moment where it would give a message to me. One minute later the TV was working again, and the forester on TV said to his friend, ’There are elves in the Bavarian Forest.’

I knew that this was a message that I had created this whole ... or I felt it was a game that I did with those non-physical beings, and it was a validation for me that this is all true. I was telling myself that I am playful and that I can do those things, and it was directing my attention to those subjective connections I felt. I was wondering if that had something to do with you?

ELIAS: Partially, but let me also express to you the identification that the essences that you were engaging were compliant in being playful, but you initiated that action and you created the physical manifestations that occurred.

ANJULI: I created the TV going on at that moment with this sentence the forester was saying?


ANJULI: And you have been participating in that? I mean, I created it but you were there, or I was connected with you?


ANJULI: Of course! Some playful happening like that must have something to do with you! (Elias laughs)

At the end of the fourth session we talked about this music I am listening to, and about that experience in the past of all those several thousand people meditating together and having the same experience and this expansion, and that I want to connect with focuses of essences which are like me all over the Earth and with the entire shift. First of all, I forgot to tell you that when this group of people meditated and then all of us had expressed out of the silence ’aaahhh’ and had the same expansion, there was a flash of lightening and again a thunderstorm hitting something, right out of the blue. (Elias laughs) That was the next thunderstorm story. Did we create that as a group?

ELIAS: Yes. (Chuckles)

ANJULI: Because of the energy we created, and also as some validation for us?

ELIAS: Yes. Now you may view these experiences, and rather than associating them as coincidence, you may validate yourself in recognizing the expression of your energy, and that you in actuality do create these expressions.

ANJULI: Since we talked about that, about me connecting with all of the essences who are engaged with this shift of consciousness or with this specific group which I feel everywhere around the Earth, I had the feeling that this group of like-beings or focuses of essences who have a similar focus of attention, they are all in a certain way experiencing remembrance. Is this what they have alike?

ELIAS: This is what you are ALL moving into, yes.

ANJULI: And they in some way are getting similar experiences and information as we have? With ’we’ I mean those who are in objective connection with you. But they get it somehow differently, maybe subjectively or in another way?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Yes, because I felt that. So we just connect and then we kind of share this knowledge and experiences?

ELIAS: Correct, for you are ALL creating a common direction in movement to be creating this shift in consciousness and inserting it into your objective reality.

ANJULI: Yes, and in this connection I recently got an article. It says, ’Scientific proof of global consciousness may be emerging,’ and it talks about scientists who discovered that during the World Trade Center event some of their measuring tools were giving them unusual data. They discovered that when many beings on Earth have the same emotions and have the same intent or experience the same that this can be measured, and they took that as a discovery that we are all connected. It goes in the direction that they now start to measure when everybody is doing meditations or when there are worldwide groups. I saw this article as the objectifying of the insertion of the shift.


ANJULI: On the Elias List they also loved it. When it goes even into the heads of the scientists and the scientific beliefs...

ELIAS: Your sciences within their beliefs express the necessity of evidence to be validating any manifestation or movement as real, in your terms; but also, my friend, look to yourselves, for you all express this necessity in some capacity.

ANJULI: Yes. The article ended with the suggestion of how powerful groups are, how powerful a big group could be with a very specific focus and intent.

ELIAS: Correct, which I also have expressed previously, that as you generate energy collectively it expresses a TREMENDOUS strength in movement.

ANJULI: So then this means when there is an article by normal scientists about that, this starts now to be a more common experience and is commonly acknowledged.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: That’s great!

ELIAS: And you are offering yourselves objective evidence of this shift in consciousness and its movement, and altering your actual physical reality through the action of perceiving it differently.

You yourselves, in allowing yourselves to be accessing information concerning what you view to be a scientific community, offer yourselves validation and evidence of the reality of this movement, that I myself and other essences that offer information to you are not what you define as imagined [and that] the information that has been offered to you is actually occurring. Therefore, you offer yourselves a new perception of reality within your physical expressions.

Those expressions of information that were previously associated with concept and an expression that may be created futurely are now being examined by you individually and collectively as reality, and [are] offering yourselves a different expression of your perceptions in relation to reality itself, and [are] validating yourselves in relation to what may actually be possible within your physical dimension that you have previously deemed as impossible.

ANJULI: I somehow had to think again of when the Wall in Berlin was falling and the weeks before it was falling. The people in East Germany were gathering with candles in the streets and were expressing, ’We are the people.’ And I thought this is the discovery that WE create our reality, WE are the ones who decide how we want to live. That is why it was happening without any trauma, just their changing into this experience of the Wall falling?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: So this was then a mass event as an example for everyone else?

ELIAS: Correct, in allowing yourselves the freedom to create and express your own choices rather than expressing the automatic responses in allowing other individuals to dictate to you what your choices shall be, and you may be recognizing in that mass event the expression of dramatically altering reality within a few moments in like manner to your recent mass event.

Within your choice to be creating processes in your movements, you view that there is a requirement of much time framework to be incorporated to accomplish certain dramatic expressions of movement in awareness within your individual creations; but as I have expressed many times, in actuality, if you are so choosing, within a moment you may alter tremendous expressions within your physical reality. And so you have, and have offered yourselves objective imagery as evidence of your ability to be creating such alterations in a moment.

ANJULI: Yes. I had to think of that again, when after the World Trade Center event the Russian president, Putin, was invited to Berlin, and he was standing with the others in front of the Brandenburger Tor, which is symbolic for the unity in Berlin and Germany, and it was a brilliant talk. He said we all are still stuck in our old beliefs and do not realize that our reality has changed, and it is now time that we trust each other, and the time of the Cold War is gone and everything has changed. I thought that to be something really special which we apparently used that World Trade Center event for, this more of uniting of the countries.

ELIAS: Correct, and allowing yourselves to trust yourselves and therefore generating a natural by-product in trusting each other.

ANJULI: And then regarding this ’all can happen very fast,’ is this now happening in Afghanistan? Because the journalists and people worldwide were all very surprised that all of sudden the Afghans are all now more free, the woman can work again. The war is still there, but the women work again and can run around as they like and the men also, and they express joy because they are now free of this old religious belief, and the countries watching were expressing that it changed because the people were just deciding to be different.

ELIAS: Correct. And I may express to you, although other groups of individuals associated with what you define as other cultures and other countries may be interactive and may view themselves as facilitating this action, in actuality the most affecting action that has been generated has been expressed within that country itself and the individuals that occupy that country and their choice to alter their reality and, in like manner to the event of the Wall, to discontinue allowing other individuals to dictate to them what their choices shall be.

ANJULI: Yes, so they used the situation for that. They even used this World Trade Center event and the United States with their forces there. That is an example for us about nothing is good or bad, it is just a happening of expansion and we can use everything for this expansion?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Or we decide to think it to be something negative and use it for something else.

ELIAS: In this, as I have stated, regardless of whether you deem any action or expression to be negative or positive, ALL that you create is beneficial. And in this action, as I have been expressing to you all, within this time framework subsequent to your mass event, what you are generating is an examination of mass beliefs of CORE belief systems and structures of beliefs, [and] that you are allowing yourselves to turn your attention to yourselves and allowing yourselves to generate different choices.

In this, as you recognize, the religious beliefs have not been eliminated, but they are not being perceived in a manner in which they are being responded to in automatic response.

ANJULI: Another thing which I watched recently, I thought that we can find a lot about what insights we all collectively have objectively by watching the changes in the media or what the media talks about. Recently there was a time when they brought in the news examples of people who have been for a few minutes dead and reported about their subjective experience during that time. I thought it also shows a change in that direction, because when it comes on TV at such a time it reaches a lot of people.

ELIAS: Correct. These are examples that you are offering to yourselves in objective imagery as a reflection of your individual movements and the alteration in your perceptions of what holds significance, what you are redefining in value, and moving your attentions in different manners, which are actually altering your physical reality. (Pause)

ANJULI: I wanted to ask you about an imagery that I was sometimes using, because it tells me also something about my connection with you. When I seem to feel that there is more distance or I don’t allow myself to feel the subjective connection with you, then I try it with imagery, and I discovered a lot by feeling which kind of imagery I am using and what I am then experiencing in my connection with you.

I discovered that when I want to connect more closely with you, I am not using imagery like for example meeting you somewhere, finding myself on an island and meeting you somewhere, which I would like to imagine. But this does not work so much as if I am imagining you and other non-physical essences and me and essences with focuses here kind of meeting somewhere, let’s say in a city or starship or whatever, and I don’t talk with you. I watch you interacting with others. This imagery is a very specific experience and feels more intimate than anything else. It’s a kind of feeling my relationship with you in a way which I usually would not create when I use human imageries or imageries from this dimension. Do you understand what I want to express?

ELIAS: Yes. Yes, I am understanding. And your question?

ANJULI: This has something to do with knowing about our connectedness with all essences?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: And that this knowingness is what brings me close to you?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes, and in this imagery that you present to yourself, you specifically also generate an expression of indirect communication as an expression of this lack of separation, for it is expressed within your imagery purposefully in the knowing that it matters not. Any interaction is an interaction with you also, for there is no separation. I have been expressing this concept to individuals from the onset of this forum, that it matters not what you express or what any other individual expresses within any moment, for you are all interconnected and therefore you all and all of consciousness are also affected.

ANJULI: Also with using those imageries I am discovering that sometimes I of course do not need any imagery, and the subjective connection with you feels more objective. In the past, the objective, like when I talk with you on the phone, feels more real or more there, and this has changed. The other subjective connections feel similar, as real as the objective ones.

ELIAS: Correct. This is an allowance of you moving your attention and recognizing the subjective expression.

ANJULI: Yes, I discovered that there are many areas where I didn’t feel the need to talk with you during the session anymore, because the doubts if it is true or the doubts into me if I am listening or getting it correct or something, they are lessening.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: My other focus Leslie has a question.

ELIAS: Very well.

ANJULI: I wrote her an email about the last session. She is very excited about it and wants to get it too. We talked about our male American focus, Joe Newton. She said she has had a dinner with friends, and she talked with them about me and everything that happened, about our essence Miranda and also about this male American focus, and they knew a Joe Newton. Leslie’s question is, is this is our male American focus?

ELIAS: No. This is another individual.

ANJULI: Tameala with the essence name Ricanna, she has a question about her essence family and alignment. She thinks it is Sumari/Vold.

ELIAS: Acknowledged.

ANJULI: A friend of ours, Emma, she would like to know her essence name. (Pause)

ELIAS: Roiann, R-O-I-A-N-N (ROY ahn).

ANJULI: And she thinks to be Sumafi/Vold?

ELIAS: Sumafi/Zuli.

ANJULI: Aha, no Vold. She thinks her color is maybe light blue or light violet, or something in that direction?

ELIAS: Lavender.

ANJULI: Thank you. Our friend Philoan, she would like to know her essence name. (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Callicoe, C-A-L-L-I-C-O-E (kah LEE coe).

ANJULI: Is she Zuli/Ilda or Zuli/Gramada maybe? (Pause)

ELIAS: Your initial impression is correct.

ANJULI: Could I get the essence name of Bernd? (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Rycel, R-Y-C-E-L (rye CELL).

ANJULI: And Sigrid? (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Melanae, M-E-L-A-N-A-E (mel ah NAY).

ANJULI: All very beautiful names. And Rycel, is he Sumafi/Gramada? (Pause)

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Ah! I am good! (Elias laughs) And Melanae, is she Sumafi/Tumold?

ELIAS: Reverse.

ANJULI: Reverse, aha. Oh great! We are a little family of friends, nine of us, and they wanted me to start talking about them. So this was the very first start, to get all the nine essence names, with Lyryn and Ahmed and Wynnett and Ricanna, and then those.

ELIAS: Very well.

ANJULI: Very interested in the sessions they read from me, and so... (Sighing) The one hour is done. (Elias chuckles) I wished it could be more.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! And we shall continue to be interactive, my friend.

ANJULI: Yes, I know. I will create very many interesting interactions with you.

ELIAS: (Chuckling) As always.

ANJULI: Elias, I love you very much.

ELIAS: And I express my tremendous affection for you also, my friend. I shall be playful with you as we continue in our interactions together.

ANJULI: Yes. Thank you, Elias.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome, my friend.

ANJULI: It was a great joy.

ELIAS: In tremendous encouragement, au revoir.

ANJULI: Au revoir.

Elias departs at 12:51 PM.

(1) Anjuli’s note: A few minutes before the session started I heard downstairs my mother crying loud in despair, and I had a conflict between feeling responsible for her in her situation with my sick father and the desire to get the session. I decided to not go downstairs for to ’fix her,’ but to start with the session.

(2) Refer to , 10/4/01.

(3) Refer to , 10/18/01.

(4) Anjuli’s note: I am referring here to the very first days of the surprisingly easy change in Afghanistan.

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