Friday, November 9, 2001 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Frank (Ulra)
Elias arrives at 11:39 AM. (Arrival time is 18 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

FRANK: Good morning, nice to speak to you again!

ELIAS: (Laughs) And what interesting adventure shall you present this morning?

FRANK: As usual, I do have one for you, but we'll save that for later.

ELIAS: Very well!

FRANK: I would like to start with some questions from Sterling, first of all.

ELIAS: Very well.

FRANK: His first question is why did he not make the basketball team? He tried out for the basketball team at his high school this week and didn't make it, which was a cause of much distress to him. That's his first question. (Pause)

ELIAS: Very well. This in actuality is an interesting example of allowing yourself to pay attention to what you are choosing rather than what you think you want, and also an opportunity to be paying attention to impressions.

Now; I may express that this individual was neither paying attention to impressions or to the choosing aspect of himself. But this is an example of the significance of allowing one's self to be paying attention to these actions, one as communication and one as an action of following the individual's direction. For in this situation, I may express to you, yes, there has been expressed a want to be engaging in this particular activity and participating in association with this team, so to speak, but also impressions were being expressed concerning conflict in relation to other individuals participating in this activity also, which were not being listened to.

Now; regardless of whether you are listening to your impressions or your communications or not, many times you shall create what is in alignment with your direction in a particular time framework. In this, in choosing to not be engaging certain conflicts and to be engaging what you term to be a sport in a different expression of perception than has been expressed previously, he has chosen not to be participating in this particular time framework to allow himself to not engage conflict and to also allow himself to be moving more in an expression of paying attention to himself rather than distracting in an involvement with this type of situation. Are you understanding?

FRANK: Vaguely. I'm trying to write some of the high points down, but I'm sort of vaguely understanding. When you talk about conflict with an individual, is that a potential teammate or a coach or...?

ELIAS: Individuals. (Emphasizing the plural)

FRANK: What type of conflict was the fear or the concern about?

ELIAS: This was not a fear. This was a communication through impression, that there has been expressed potential to be creating conflict between himself and other individuals - one as the authority individual and also with other individuals participating in the team, so to speak.

FRANK: So in other words he had that impression, and it was based on that recognition of this potential for conflict that he chose not to participate.

ELIAS: Correct. Although, I may express to you, what holds significance here is the information to be paying attention to the impressions and also to be paying attention to what you're actually creating, especially within the time frameworks in which your thinking moves in a different expression from your choosing.

Now; I may also express to you once again, he was not paying attention to either of these expressions within himself.

FRANK: I will do my best to explain that to him.

ELIAS: Very well.

FRANK: I think that that will be a little difficult, but I accept that challenge! (Elias laughs)

His second question is, he has had an injury to his foot and it has been sort of a lingering injury, and his question is why does his foot hurt? (Pause)

ELIAS: This also is a manifestation which has been created to be obtaining his attention in different directions, to be paying attention to self and not projecting his attention outside of self to other individuals.

I may express to you, in actuality there is more than one action occurring in creating this manifestation. He is attempting to turn his attention by limiting certain movements in his directions, in a manner of speaking almost forcing himself to pay attention to self, but also offering to himself a pay-off in which he receives a certain expression of attention from other individuals in relation to this manifestation.

In allowing himself to be genuinely not concerning himself with other individuals and their expectations, he may also discover that this manifestation physically may mysteriously disappear.

FRANK: The last question that he has is, why does he have difficulty staying focused on his homework and other things? (Pause)

ELIAS: (Chuckles) And shall we express that the theme of all of these questions is paying attention to self! For in this, I may express to you the recognition that this individual experiences difficulty focusing attention in ANY singular direction for extended time frameworks. (Laughs)

FRANK: Sounds familiar to me!

ELIAS: In this, he is also once again presenting imagery to himself in not paying attention to self, either.

FRANK: You're right, obviously this is a theme that runs through all of this, so...

ELIAS: Correct. These are all expressions of outside imagery, so to speak. Even though he chooses to be creating a physical manifestation, the physical manifestation is motivated by expressions outwardly and focusing his attention upon outside situations, circumstances and other individuals, and how other individuals perceive him and what he perceives to be the expectations of other individuals concerning his choices and direction, and not paying attention to what HE is generating and what he is creating and not paying attention to what he genuinely wants, and also creating expectations upon himself in relation to the perceived expectations of other individuals. (Slight pause)

FRANK: I'm just writing here.

ELIAS: Very well.

FRANK: Now I think I can distill this down for him and explain it to him. It all seems pretty obvious to me, now that you've laid this out. I will relay that to him.

ELIAS: Very well!

FRANK: We'll sort of move on here, but let me ask you about two things that are sort of involving him and myself jointly. First of all, we play a game when we ride in the car, where we each try to be the first to identify other cars of a certain type or color. The question that I want to pose here is why do we play this game? Before you ask me what my impression is, it's my impression that the purpose of the game, for my part, is to keep me focused in the present now, because it causes me to be very focused on exactly what's going on around me. Is there more to it?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct, and in this I may express to you that you are choosing to incorporate what may be viewed as a natural expression of essence in being playful and creating games, incorporating what you view as a serious matter, so to speak, of focusing your attention but creating a playful manner in which to accomplish this action.

FRANK: Is the purpose the same for him?

ELIAS: Partially, and partially it is an expression of competition.

FRANK: I guess it is for me, too, a little bit. (Elias laughs) Not as much, but okay!

Next, we have another - how shall I term this? - what we call a game, where we sort of try to sneak up on each other - not to describe it in too much detail - but sort of pull on each other's clothes. (Laughs) The question I have is what does this symbolize?

ELIAS: (Chuckles, and Frank laughs) Ah, now you are incorporating the seriousness of playfulness, and I may express to you, my friend, this is a clear example in this present now of creating excessive analyzation of an action. For in actuality you are merely engaging each other's energy in playfulness and allowing yourselves to be experiencing a comfort in the expression of playfulness.

FRANK: I thought that everything had some sort of a meaning.

ELIAS: Ah! Very well, I may express to you, if you are wishing for a serious meaning, pay attention to the allowance of this playfulness and incorporate this in other expressions of your focus that you create quite seriously. Ha ha ha ha!

FRANK: Okay! Next, I had a dream that ... well, actually it wasn't really a dream. I had just woken up and I was laying in bed thinking about my business and what I wanted to create in my business, and the next thing I knew I had a thought or it almost seemed like a dream - but I really do believe I was awake - that I was on the outside of an airplane that was flying low to the ground, an old airplane like a DC-3. My first reaction was that I'm on the outside skin of the airplane and I need to get into the plane, but if I tried to do that I quickly realized I wasn't able to get in. Then I tried to find a way to get a good hold on something on the plane so I wouldn't fall off. I did this, and after I had done this I realized that as soon as the plane started slowing down I would go flying off the plane, that I would be thrown forward. So then I looked for another place to hold onto the plane that would keep me able to stay on during landing, but couldn't find one. The next thing I realized is that I might be okay just as I was hanging on to the plane, that I might be able to stay on even though I was in sort of a bad position; then I came out of this. My question is was this a dream, was this not a dream? What exactly was that? Secondly, what is the communication?

ELIAS: Offer your impression.

FRANK: As to the first one, I don't feel like it was a dream, so that's my answer on that. As far as my impression of what the communication is, I think that, number one, it probably has something to do with my attitude or thought process towards my business and what I'm trying to create, because it happened concurrently with me thinking about what I wanted to create.

As far as what the message is, I believe it's something to do with, I would say, my growth as an individual in terms of things we discuss in these sessions and what it takes or what it will take to create what I want.

ELIAS: Very well. I shall express to you, first of all, this is not what you generally term to be dream imagery, although it is in actuality quite closely associated. It is not quite a meditative state and also not quite a sleep state, but the action is similar. For in this, it may be more likened to what you recognize in physical focus as a hypnotic state, in which you are not actually engaging sleep state but you also are not creating a meditative state.

In this, you allow your physical expression to be extremely relaxed and therefore allow yourself to generate subjective activity, and be translating that subjective activity objectively in imagery and recognizing the objective imagery simultaneously to the subjective activity.

Within dream state, the objective imagery that you present to yourself is generally recognized within your time framework subsequent to the subjective activity. You recall, objectively.

Now; many times within meditative states, your objective translation also is created subsequent to the actual meditative state. You recall what has been generated in that state, so to speak, objectively.

In this type of action, you allow yourself the objective translation and recognition in the same time framework as the action is occurring.

Now; you are correct in partial association of translation concerning what you generate within your business, so to speak, and that also parallels what you are expressing to yourself concerning your focus and its relationship to essence. You are creating both in parallel to each other. What you are expressing is an identification of, in a manner of speaking, in your terms, feeling outside of the expression of essence - being an aspect of it, holding to it, but expressing a desire to be inside of it, and recognizing the perception of being a part of it but outside of it.

In like manner, in parallel, you create the translation in relation to what you identify as your business in recognizing the potential of this entity of the business, which is perceived to be greater or larger than yourself and the desire to be within it, or creating the perception that it actually is within you and springs from you, rather than you being outside of this larger entity of the business but being part of it and therefore holding to it, in the translation of being on the outside of it.

Both are perceived to be entities larger than yourself and not necessarily genuinely generated from within, but almost perceiving in this manner but not quite yet, and therefore, in a manner of speaking clinging to the edge of it, as it is perceived to be created separately from yourself. Are you understanding?

FRANK: Yes. It's pretty interesting.

ELIAS: This is, in actuality, quite intricate imagery that you have presented to yourself and quite accurate concerning your perception, recognizing in part that you are a part of and holding to these two expressions, also recognizing your desire to be within them and not quite separated from them, but genuinely recognizing that your perception is not expressing yet that you actually are within them.

FRANK: But I am moving in that direction?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: So really, what we're saying here when we really get down to it, the situation relative to the business is a reflection of what's going on with me relative to my essence.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: And this dream or hypnotic state, whatever we're going to term it, was giving me a communication about what's going on in the business, which is a communication about what's going on relative to my essence.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: So I'm getting double messages here.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking.

FRANK: Well, that is a desire of mine. Any suggestions or advice on continuing my movement in that direction?

ELIAS: Continue to be paying attention, my friend, and acknowledging yourself, recognizing that regardless of the manner in which expressions are manifest within your reality, you individually are creating this. It matters not that it may objectively appear to you that another individual or situation has presented an expression to you or has manifest some expression for you. In actuality, you have generated that.

FRANK: I create everything.

ELIAS: Yes. I may express to you, I am aware of the challenge that is presented in this concept. For, I may offer to you a simple example that may be recognized by yourself and by many, many, many individuals within your physical dimension, that another individual may approach you, you may express a desire to be creating a particular expression and you may perceive that to be accomplishing this particular action you are requiring of currency, and this other individual approaches you and offers you the currency that you perceive you require to accomplish the action that you want.

Now; I may express to you in this small example, the automatic response shall be that you did not create this. Another individual offered you the currency. Therefore, they created the currency, they offered it to you, they generated the expression of it, and therefore although it allows you, in your perception, to accomplish what you want, you did not create it. But you did, for you created the other individual and you created the scenario in its entirety. Therefore if the object that you perceived you required was the currency, you also created that.

FRANK: Then shall I also deduce that this other person who provided me with the currency in whatever manner or for whatever reason did that in line with their own desire to create that, and had that person not had the desire to create that, some other person would have popped up to provide the currency?

ELIAS: Correct, but I may also express to you, this direction of thinking that you are engaging incorporates some distortion, for what you interact with concerning other individuals is an expression of energy. The actual individual is created by you; the physical expression of the individual is created by yourself. Therefore you are viewing this example in absolute terms.

FRANK: Yes, as someone outside of me.

ELIAS: And in black and white agreement terms, which is an expression of absolute. What I am expressing to you is not necessarily in association with agreements in the solidity that you perceive them to be, for the other individual projects an energy and you configure that energy in the manner in which it shall be beneficial to you. Regardless of whether it is comfortable or not comfortable, it shall be beneficial to you in your direction.

FRANK: That's all kind of interesting, because over the past few days my son and I have been talking about you, and I made the comment to him that you create everything in your life, and his response was, "So, Elias is a figment of my imagination."

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking. Imagination is quite real; it is a communication. Imagination is an avenue of communication that you offer to yourself, and in this, it is one avenue of communication in which you allow yourself to tap into information that you do not necessarily allow yourself through other avenues of communication. Therefore it offers you, in some manners, a broader spectrum to draw from.

FRANK: I think I understand. Maybe we'll talk more about that next time.

ELIAS: Very well.

FRANK: Last time we spoke about the joint focus we had in Prague. You suggested that I investigate that a bit more. My impression at this point is that we did not know each other very well, or we knew each other for a short period, and that I am some sort of authority figure, say a policeman or a social worker or something like that, who is trying to either arrest you or get you to do something supposedly for your own good that you don't particularly want to do. Is that accurate?

ELIAS: Correct. (Laughs)

FRANK: Do want to elaborate or...?

ELIAS: A constable.

FRANK: Am I trying to arrest you, or what am I trying to do in the scene I see there? Get you off the street or...?

ELIAS: Yes. Not necessarily what you term to be arresting, but threatening this action in perceiving that to be a tool, so to speak, to be motivating to my focus to be altering behavior, which is not accepted. (Laughs)

FRANK: Is that pretty much our only interaction during that focus, that particular incident?

ELIAS: No. This has been created in repetition in that focus. You are correct that there is not a relationship of intimacy or friendship, so to speak, but there is an expression of fondness, in a manner of speaking, and therefore although there is a presentment of sternness by the one individual, there is also a desire to be helpful, and these types of encounters occur what may be viewed as semi-frequently. (Laughs)

FRANK: (Laughs) Well, I got that one pretty good, then!

Let's move on to some other imagery, then. This one is pretty interesting to me. About two weeks ago, during the evening when I was sitting around watching TV with my son, I got a phone call from a good friend, an ex-partner of mine. He called to apologize to me about a remark he had made on the phone three days earlier, which he, after thinking about this remark he had made, felt like he had insulted me, when in actuality I viewed the remark as a typical sort of a joke that we make between each other and really thought nothing of it at all. But he seemed to feel like he had really injured me or insulted me and called to apologize, and I, of course, told him don't think anything of it. About an hour later, I got a call from my current partner, who called to apologize for something that again, when it occurred, never impressed me at all as being any sort of a slight or an insult or anything like that. Again, I was quite surprised at what he was expressing. But these two phone calls within the space of an hour made me think there's some sort of message here, and so I thought I would ask you about that.

ELIAS: Very well. I may express to you that you have offered yourself an interesting opportunity to be paying attention, in similar manner to an exercise that I previously offered to individuals in what may be termed as the beginning expressions of this phenomenon. I expressed to the individuals to be engaging an exercise in allowing themselves to be paying attention to expressions of discounting themselves in a brief time framework, to allow themselves the noticing of how frequently individuals create this type of automatic expression and are not paying attention.

Now; in this, you have offered yourself the opportunity to be experimenting with this type of exercise, paying attention to self and paying attention to what in actuality is being expressed. Many times individuals express discounting of themselves and are not noticing, for it has become so very automatic.

In this, be remembering: you have created all of these expressions. You have created the initial scenario, and you have created both of these individuals expressing apology to you. Therefore, you are expressing apology to yourself. For let me express to you my friend, you have inquired previously in this discussion concerning playfulness and I have expressed to you that this is a natural expression of essence, to be creating playfulness in all of its explorations, although many times within this physical dimension you do not create playfulness.

Now; in this situation, this is quite commonly expressed. You incorporate the natural playfulness of essence, but you incorporate that in association with automatic responses and discounting of yourselves. Many individuals create this type of expression in what you term to be sarcasm. I, at times, incorporate this expression of sarcasm with individuals within physical focus, for it is quite familiar to you and you incorporate this as playfulness.

Now; in my express of sarcasm that I engage with any of you, there is no expression of discounting of you. I incorporate this familiarity with you for it is familiar to you in expressions, and you quite easily and immediately allow yourself objectively to be receiving the point - not in discounting of yourself and not in an expression of my discounting of you, but merely in recognition of a particular point.

Within physical focus and your expressions to yourselves and each other, you incorporate this expression of sarcasm as a discounting. It is an automatic expression to be discounting of yourself or to be discounting of another individual. In this, you incorporate a natural expression of playfulness but in association with automatic responses and expressions of duplicity. There are many instances within physical focus in which you express a discounting of yourselves and do not notice or ignore or excuse, for it is so very familiar.

FRANK: And that's what this message was all about?

ELIAS: Yes. Pay attention, for there is a key in this imagery that you have offered to yourself, in ACCEPTING what is being expressed.

Now; what did you create? Not accepting.

FRANK: In other words, I didn't accept the apology...

ELIAS: Correct!

FRANK: ...because I didn't feel there was anything to apologize for.

ELIAS: Correct! And in this, in acceptance of the expression of the apology, you also generate acceptance of the message that you are presenting to yourself.

FRANK: Well, I'll accept their apology now! (Elias laughs) Quite interesting imagery...

ELIAS: Quite!

FRANK: ...especially two calls in a row. When that happened, I knew there was something up. Did I receive the second call because I didn't get the message on the first call?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: And then I still really didn't get the message with the second call.

ELIAS: Correct, but it did move your attention.

FRANK: Yes, I immediately began to say, "What's going on here?"

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: It's amazing how all that works. (Elias chuckles)

In that vein, with the second call I got, the conversation drifted from the apology to other matters, business matters. My partner made a comment and the essence of it was you need to work hard to get anything worthwhile, if it comes easy it's no good, it doesn't last. As he said this, I'm thinking about the last conversation you and I had, and many other conversations you and I've had on that subject. I thought about how this is a reflection of a mass belief that in fact we discussed last time we talked. Why did I create that? Was it to remind myself of this, or why did I put that out there?

ELIAS: Partially, and also as a reminder, in a manner of speaking, to yourself that you are not eliminating beliefs. You are acknowledging their existence, their expression, and allowing yourself choice, therefore accepting. For you continue to move in the expression of projecting a perception of eliminating the beliefs or changing the beliefs.

FRANK: It's hard to understand the difference between changing and choosing.

ELIAS: Let me express to you, my friend, the beliefs merely are. They are an aspect of the design of this particular dimension, as I have expressed many times. It matters not. The beliefs in themselves are not good or bad. The beliefs in themselves are not limiting or promoting, so to speak. It is your association with them and what you create through perception in association with them in automatic responses that creates limitation.

In this, what is familiar within your reality is to be associating through the expressions of duplicity in the identification of the good and the bad, and once attaching an expression of bad, the automatic response is to eliminate what is bad - or a more enlightened term in this time framework may be to "uncreate" what is bad.

In this, if you perceive that you may not uncreate or eliminate, you shall attempt to change, for in your common vernacular this shall be the next best expression. But it matters not, for in actuality you are not changing any of your beliefs. What you create in the moments that you perceive that you are changing a belief is merely an action of turning your attention to a different expression of a belief, a different aspect.

FRANK: Let's take this specific belief that we're talking about. Although maybe there are many aspects to it, one aspect is the belief that it takes hard work to get anything worthwhile or good, and maybe an alternative belief is that it doesn't, that anyone can creating anything they want any time they want, and there's nothing better or more noble about creating it through hard work versus just creating it through ease.

ELIAS: Quite. These are two aspects.

FRANK: It almost sounds like you're saying I can hold both beliefs simultaneously.

ELIAS: And you do! This is the point, my friend. For in this, as you move your expression of attention and you move into an expression of directing yourself into "you may be creating what you want in ease and you may be creating value without struggle," the belief that you must be generating struggle to be creating value has not disappeared. It continues to exist. Your attention is merely focused upon a different aspect.

In a manner of speaking, quite simply, my friend, it may be objectively likened to presenting yourself physically with two books before you upon your desk. You may physically turn your physical form in a manner in which your physical vision may be focused upon one book, and in the position of your physical form, your vision shall not be incorporating the viewing of the other book even within your periphery. This is not to say that the other book does not continue to exist.

FRANK: But for me, in a sense it doesn't exist.

ELIAS: Yes, it does, for you have already created it. You are merely not paying attention to it any longer. Therefore, it is not held within your attention. This is not to say that it does not exist.

FRANK: Would it be fair to say that when people talk about changing beliefs, what they're really talking about is just changing their attention?

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: Aren't we almost just into semantics here about what's going on?

ELIAS: No, for this is significant. For in this, as you recognize that these beliefs continue to exist, you acknowledge to yourself that they are not changed and that they are not eliminated, which is an expression of not denying them and therefore not denying yourself, which offers you choice. For this also allows you more of an objective understanding of yourself and your reality and more of an objective understanding realistically of what you create and, in your most prolific question, WHY you create certain expressions.

Do you not confuse yourselves quite often, expressing to yourselves, "Why have I created this expression? I have addressed to THAT belief. I am not incorporating THAT belief any longer." This is an automatic association that you have eliminated it or that you have changed it, which you have not. Therefore in that time framework you become confused, and your automatic question is why - "Why shall this be affecting of me? I am not incorporating that belief any longer." Yes, you are!

FRANK: So are you saying then that once an individual adopts a particular belief, that belief is essentially with them forever?

ELIAS: Within this physical dimension, yes. But it matters not, my friend. For in recognizing that you do hold this belief, as in your example, you may present yourself with the expression of it, and recognizing that it exists and that you incorporate this belief, you may also offer yourself choice.

FRANK: In the form of a new belief, a different belief?

ELIAS: In the expression of how you shall move within your choices. "Ah, I recognize that I incorporate this belief. I align with this belief that I must be expressing work and difficulty to be achieving an expression of value. This is a belief."

Now; in that mere recognition, you are discontinuing the automatic response. The automatic response is the expression that limits you. In the recognition of this and the discontinuation of the automatic response, you may objectively choose how you shall express. "In this moment, very well, I am aligning with this belief and I am choosing to be toiling. In the subsequent moment, I am choosing not to be toiling; I am choosing ease. In another moment, I am choosing to be incorporating some challenge but also some playfulness."

FRANK: Is it as simple as me just sitting here and saying I'm choosing not to need hard work to bring in the next big client?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: Is it really that simple? It doesn't seem that way.

ELIAS: Yes. I may express to you, my friend, much of what I express to you is quite simple. But within your physical focus you fascinate yourselves with complicating, and therefore although what I express to you may be in actuality quite simple, within your reality achieving that simple expression may be quite challenging and difficult.

FRANK: But at least you've pointed us in the right direction here. (Elias laughs) I think the beginning is the recognition that (a) I created this, (b) this is based on some belief, and (c) I can express a different belief.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: What you're saying is that the process of implementing "c" is different or the optimal expression of it is different from what we try to do.

ELIAS: Correct. It is quite unfamiliar. Automatic responses are precisely that. They are automatic and many times are expressed unnoticed.

FRANK: Most of the time they are, right?

ELIAS: Yes, and this is the point of allowing yourselves to pay attention and to notice and therefore offer yourself the freedom to choose rather than expressing the automatic responses which limit your choices to one.

FRANK: As you probably know, I think I've been moving in this direction - maybe you can confirm or can't confirm that - of rather than trying to eliminate beliefs, trying to adopt different beliefs is the way that I'd put it, particularly with respect to creating clients in my business. Is the manner in which I'm going about this more in line with what you're advocating here?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: Do you have any advice for me, relative to what I am doing?

ELIAS: Merely to genuinely be paying attention and noticing the automatic responses, to continue to be noticing your expression of automatic responses.

FRANK: I kind of go up and down on that, at least that's what I feel. At times I seem to be more noticing of them, but I think particularly over the last few weeks I've been not noticing very much at all. (Elias laughs)

ELIAS: Although you are presenting yourself with many opportunities to be noticing! Ha ha ha!

FRANK: Yes, but that's my specialty, right?

ELIAS: (Laughs) Quite!

FRANK: I'd love to keep talking about this, but our time is pretty short; in fact I'm a bit over here. I'll just supply you with the entertainment for today.

ELIAS: Ah, very well, my friend! Ha ha ha!

FRANK: (Laughs) About a month ago, I was at a football game and sat in the driving rain for about three hours at this football game. When the game was over, my son and I got in the car and went to drive out, and a fair portion of the parking lot was flooded. Cars were undrivable because there was so much water there. I fortunately parked in a very good spot to not be flooded. So now we're driving home and the traffic is getting very slow, and it turns out the road is flooded. Some people were turning around; some people were going through. At the time I tried to think of what's the best way to go, and I think I may have even sort of searched for an impression, thinking about our last conversation. At any rate, I decided to try to drive through the big puddle - it was more like a lake in the road than a puddle - and at any rate, my car stopped, and as it turned out the engine got ruined, it got destroyed. Just to finish up, what is interesting to me, or what I focused on trying to determine what this is all about, it seems in many of the discussions we've had about things like this that have occurred, it seems like water is always involved, as it certainly was in this case. So, there it is.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! Pay attention to your dreams, my friend, and allow yourself within your dream imagery to recognize the expression of water.

FRANK: That's come up before.

ELIAS: (Laughs) You are translating in objective imagery the expression of dream triggers.

FRANK: So are you saying I had a dream around this time about something or other that...

ELIAS: No, I am merely expressing to you that water may be recognized as a dream trigger within your dream imagery as a portal. (Laughs) And I may express to you, as I have expressed previously, objective imagery is quite abstract! Ha ha ha!

FRANK: (Confused) Okay...

ELIAS: I may express to you, objective imagery may be almost more abstract than dream imagery! Ha ha ha! And you do fascinate yourself with objective imagery in quite creative manners! (Frank laughs)

I may express, this is quite interesting in actuality, for you are, in a manner of speaking, creating a type of opposite imagery from many individuals in expressing the dream imagery in waking state. Ha ha ha ha!

FRANK: Can you tell me what it all means?

ELIAS: You are merely generating a presentment to yourself of a dream trigger, in which generally speaking, I may express to you, most individuals allow themselves to recognize dream triggers in relation to dream imagery. You are offering yourself a dream trigger in relation to waking imagery! Ha ha ha ha!

FRANK: I told you I had a good one for you!

ELIAS: As always, my friend, quite amusing!

FRANK: As usual, it's been a pleasure.

ELIAS: I shall be anticipating our next discussion. (Chuckles)

FRANK: Same here!

ELIAS: Continue in your adventure, my friend, and I shall continue to be encouraging with you. In great affection to you, au revoir.

FRANK: Goodbye.

Elias departs at 1:02 PM

(1) Since Elias uses contractions so rarely, just thought I'd note that he did use the contraction "you're" in this sentence instead of "you are."

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