Monday, October 29, 2001 (Private/In Person)
Participants: Mary (Michael), Ted (Cara) and Luanne (Inez)
Elias arrives at 12:05 PM. (Arrival time is 21 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

BOTH: Good morning, Elias! (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: And we continue!

TED: As always!

ELIAS: Ha HA! (Pause)

TED: (Sighs) I guess I want to start this ... Elias, I’m really pissed off at you!

ELIAS: Ah? Very well.

TED: You have been saying for years now that what I dwell on I create, and I’m finding that reading your transcripts and these sessions that you’ve been holding that the things I DON’T dwell on are what I create.

ELIAS: Or so you think.

TED: Or so I think. (Elias laughs) But you said in some of your scripts that if I’m not wanting to create, and we’ll use the term ’bad things,’ and I’m pushing them away and pushing them away and I’m discouraged of them, I don’t want them anymore and I want to uncreate them, that’s what I create. You said that I should be concentrating not in thought but in spirit on the things that I really want, and I should be able to create that. But I don’t seem to be able to. The more I concentrate on the things that I want, the more I get these, as we say, bad things. Can you explain what the hell’s going on here?

ELIAS: Very well. Let me express to you, as you aware, although I may say to you that you may create any expression instantaneously within the moment, you also hold an awareness that your beliefs are quite strong, which presents obstacles, and you do not necessarily believe that you hold the ability to generate this type of action - which is not bad; it matters not.

You choose processes, and processes also may be quite beneficial, for it offers you an opportunity to view and to watch how you are creating, in a manner of speaking, step by step. It also offers you an opportunity to objectively understand what you are creating and how you are creating, which also lends to familiarizing yourself with you.

Now; given this, that you choose to be creating processes for movement, I have been expressing to many individuals explanations concerning your processes.

Now; in this, I have been offering to you information: yes, you may create whatever you want; yes, you do create what you concentrate upon, not necessarily what you think, but what you concentrate upon.

Now; I am understanding that these are difficult concepts, for they are genuinely quite unfamiliar, [and] you are unfamiliar with the action of recognizing what your attention is and where you are directing it. Attention is not an expression that you see or feel or may touch. Therefore, it is somewhat elusive. For much of your focuses you have associated attention with thought as being synonymous, and they are not.

TED: Yes, we have discussed this before.

ELIAS: Correct.

Now; in the process, I expressed to you the importance of recognizing where your attention is and to become familiar with you.

Now; what is the meaning of becoming familiar with you? The meaning of becoming familiar with you is to move your attention and direct it to other expressions of you, that you may allow yourself to recognize what you are actually generating rather than what you think you are generating or what you think you want.

You express an example that you create a thought process expressing to yourself what you want, but you create other expressions. Let me also interject in this, in this time framework, my friend, this type of action is occurring quite commonly and in more excess than it has been created previously purposefully with many, many individuals. The purpose is to allow you to experience an example of what I am expressing to you, that thought does not generate your reality.

TED: I understand that thought does not generate my reality.

ELIAS: As you offer yourselves examples that your thinking is expressing one thing and your choosing is expressing a different thing, it offers you a clear example concerning thought and choice and direction, which also lends to your own facilitation of moving your attention. For as your thoughts do not materialize in the manner in which you expect, you begin to question, and as you question, you begin to allow yourself to move your attention and seek out what your explanation is.

In this, what I am expressing to you is to allow yourself to move your attention in the now, and this is [of] key importance, in the NOW.

TED: Very difficult.

ELIAS: Quite, for it is unfamiliar and it is quite easily expressed to be projecting your attention either past or future and not notice. But this expression of holding your attention in the now is becoming even more significant than it has been.

TED: Let me ask you to explain an example, and I’ll go back to the World Trade Center collapsing. When that incident occurred, I was in the now on my computer writing some notes for myself to someone else and that incident occurred. I had no objective awareness that there were terrorists in an airplane crashing it into the World Trade Center. But you have said to others that I created that. Why don’t I have an awareness of my creations?

ELIAS: But you do, my friend. It matters not that you do not offer yourself that awareness in that moment.

This is what I am expressing to you all. You view your world, yourselves, in absolutes, in narrowness, in black and white. This is an example of that. You do hold an awareness of all that occurred now.

TED: Now I do...

ELIAS: Yes.

TED: ...but I didn’t prior to that.

ELIAS: It matters not.

TED: If I am creating an action through my perception, then my feelings and my emotions are communications to me, and my thoughts then translate that emotion to information that I can use within my brain...

ELIAS: Correct.

TED: ...but why can’t I have an objective knowledge...

ELIAS: You did not create that action occurring in THAT moment. This is what I am expressing to you about the automatic association with absolutes. You are viewing time as an absolute and your movement in it as an absolute, the event as an absolute. These structures were collided with in a particular moment as an absolute: a particular day, a particular time, a particular minute as an absolute, as something outside of yourself, as something that is created and generated by something else. What I am expressing to you is, in the moment that you offer yourself an awareness, in this example of the event, you have created it.

TED: That’s tough to buy. Now, as all time is simultaneous, sticking with this same example, the moment I became aware of it, I created it and I’m very aware of it. If time is simultaneous, this did not happen in the past; it is happening now.

ELIAS: Correct.

TED: And I may create the plane being diverted from this building or the building moving out of the way into another parallel reality?

ELIAS: But you are not.

TED: I know I’m not, but MAY I? Is that a probability?

ELIAS: Is it a probability that you are creating in this now? No.

TED: Because I’ve chosen to be in THIS reality.

ELIAS: And you have chosen to participate in this manner, regardless of your assessment of good or bad. For the movement that it has created IS in alignment with this shift in consciousness. You are in agreement with that, and therefore you also are choosing to participate in this event to create an emergence in objective reality of this shift in consciousness.

Let me express to you, my friend, the choosing aspect of you does not concern itself with judgments. It does not concern itself with comfortable, uncomfortable, good, bad, pleasant. It merely chooses. It chooses directly in alignment with the direction that you are moving in.

TED: Is that what you were speaking of Saturday when you talked about the theme of my focuses?

ELIAS: Not the theme of your focuses, the theme of THIS focus.

TED: I thought this focus only had an intent.

ELIAS: Which IS the theme.

LUANNE: So it’s the same thing.

ELIAS: Yes, yes.

TED: Then the focuses I have created as essence, which is me, do not have a theme?

ELIAS: Yes, they also incorporate a theme. But I am expressing to you information concerning you in this attention, in this focus.

What we have created in this interaction together is an initial offering of information which is quite broad and encompassing, and throughout your time framework of continued interaction, what we have created together is a honing in closer and closer and focusing more and more and more directly to each individual.

TED: But now you’ve just stated that we are co-creating, and you said Saturday...

ELIAS: You are not co-creating!

TED: ’We are creating together’ is in my definition a co-creation.

ELIAS: No. You each individually are creating ALL, without exception, ALL of your reality.

TED: I’m trying to define that with your statement that you just made.

ELIAS: Yes.

TED: So you are creating and I am creating, but we’re in agreement with the theme, so to speak, of this interaction?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes.

LUANNE: But the creation itself is different for each of us.

ELIAS: Yes.

TED: I understand that. There are three of us physically present, but there are nine of us here.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes. In this, you are offering yourself movement to genuinely allow yourself to objectively understand how you create. You already view now what you create. You hold an understanding of WHAT you create, and you also are moving into acceptance that you choose what you create and you...

TED: Are you passing me tremendous amounts of energy right now? Because I feel so good, so filled with energy and so light and wonderful.

ELIAS: Yes.

TED: So I’m getting this subjectively also...

ELIAS: Yes.

TED: ...in detail.

ELIAS: Yes.

TED: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome. I am recognizing the resistance within thought but, my friend, thought is not your only interpreter.

TED: I know, that’s why I’m getting this here, inside, in my stomach now.

ELIAS: Yes. (Chuckles)

TED: I’m feeling my yellow energy center quite readily.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) But also you are allowing.

TED: Absolutely! That’s why I’m here, to allow. (Elias chuckles) I know I don’t have to do anything, I just have to allow it to be.

ELIAS: Correct.

TED: And that’s the marvelous information I have from this interaction that we have had over the past few nows.

ELIAS: Correct. This is in actuality, my friends, a wondrous time framework that you are participating within. Those of you that choose to continue to participate within physical reality are offering yourselves wondrous expressions, and you are offering yourselves the viewing of the tremendous power that you each incorporate, for you are exceptionally powerful.

TED: And I am feeling that now.

This mass event we created, that is - I’ll ask for confirmation - the beginnings of our change of government and financial and...

ELIAS: Yes.

TED: This is the beginning, and there will be other mass events occurring which will continue to bring about these changes of those who are unfamiliar with change.

ELIAS: Yes. This is not necessarily to say that you may choose to be creating similarly to this mass event.

TED: I’m not saying destructive mass events.

ELIAS: Correct.

TED: I meant mass events undefined at this point, for we have not chosen them.

ELIAS: Correct.

TED: It is so marvelous to me to have this interaction with this energy exchange that you have created. I’m feeling extremely joyous, as I do in my every moment in this past five years.

I’ve had many people ask me how to create the winning of the lottery (Elias chuckles), and I’ve told them, just allow it to happen. They do not believe me. Am I informing them incorrectly?

ELIAS: No.

TED: Each individual must allow their own abundance, is that not correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

TED: Thank you. (Pause) I’m done!

LUANNE: You are? I think you’re still beginning! (Laughs)

Okay, Elias. I’m trying to understand my own symbology to myself, and it doesn’t seem to come easily to me. So really what I’d like to discuss a little bit with you for one thing is, it wasn’t really a dream that I had, because I woke up and most of it occurred in my head while I was awake. I think I interpreted it, and it’s really only for validation and to see if I’m interpreting it correctly. It’s not a really big deal, but just for my helpfulness.

Last week I woke up in the middle of the night at 3 AM, and in my mind or in my head I was repeating over and over again ’bin Laden, bin Aldee, bin Laden, bin Aldee,’ back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. I asked myself what does this have to do with me, what do these names mean to me? And I was really extremely restless and agitated during that period of time.

Then the word ’counterpart’ came into my mind, and then his wife came into my mind, and I’m still saying, ’What does this mean to me?’ Then I thought, counterpart action. So, I was thinking to myself, ’Well, is this saying I was having counterpart action with bin Laden’s wife?’ Then shortly thereafter his father came to my mind.

So my impression of what information I was giving myself was I was having a counterpart action with one of the wives of Osama bin Laden’s father. Then I said, ’Am I having counterpart action with Osama bin Laden’s mother?’ That’s kind of as far as I got, and I never did answer the question ’who is bin Aldee?’

ELIAS: You are presenting to yourself two expressions of imagery. They are both concerning counterpart action. One, you are correct, with a wife of this individual. The other, you may adjust the name and incorporate the name Ben-adi.

LUANNE: Ben-adi?

ELIAS: Yes. Now; this is also a counterpart action, and this individual has participated in this forum.

LUANNE: Is presently participating?

ELIAS: Not physically in this moment in this physical location, but is associated with this forum, and you may be in interaction with this individual if you are so choosing. I am not expressing this to you as a suggestion.

LUANNE: Right, I understand.

ELIAS: This is your choice. It is not necessarily an expression that may be tremendously beneficial, but it is available to you.

LUANNE: So I’m understanding that I was experiencing counterpart action with one of the wives...

ELIAS: Correct.

LUANNE: ...of bin Laden’s father...

ELIAS: Correct.

LUANNE: ...not necessarily the woman that was his mother.

ELIAS: Correct.

LUANNE: What is this counterpart action doing for either one of us?

ELIAS: Offering different experiences, which allows for a greater understanding. All counterpart actions are an offering of experiences.

Now; you have chosen to be creating a counterpart action with this other individual, and in that exchange of energy you allow yourself experience of that culture and those beliefs and experiences to allow you a greater understanding, which offers you a lending of energy, so to speak, in your movement into acceptance. The other individual receives experience from you in association with your beliefs and your culture, which offer an opening of that individual to be focusing more upon self.

As you are aware, this movement of this shift and all of the aspects of it are being accomplished throughout your globe. It matters not what culture, what beliefs you incorporate. It is being accomplished regardless, and counterpart action may be quite beneficial in this type of movement, in allowing you to be subjectively receiving and exchanging energy that does not necessarily incorporate your thoughts but is affecting.

LUANNE: I understand. Now, the counterpart action with the Ben-adi person or essence, what is that about? Who is that? Oh, you said that person was someone that I know objectively who is involved in the forum.

ELIAS: Not necessarily what you term to be knowing objectively but...

LUANNE: I could investigate?

ELIAS: Yes.

LUANNE: If I wished to.

ELIAS: Yes.

LUANNE: Where is that counterpart action occurring, with me also or...?

ELIAS: Yes, allowing yourself to offer yourself experiences in association with the experiences of that individual.

Now; the reason you are engaging that counterpart action is to be offering yourself a type of energy that shall move with your energy to be beneficial in an action of balance.

LUANNE: I’m not understanding. What are we balancing?

ELIAS: Self, to be balancing experiences, which creates an energy flow of balance. For the other individual’s experiences in some manners are quite different from your experiences, and therefore it creates a type of counterbalance.

TED: Could you give us an example of that experience that Luanne is not creating within this focus? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes.

LUANNE: Good!

ELIAS: Within your expressions and your movement and what you value, you express yourself in interaction with other individuals frequently. You value this type of interaction. You interact with individuals of family and friends in a continuing manner and you exchange easily. But you also assume many of the expressions of other individuals within self. In moments in which other individuals may be generating conflict or confusion or strong emotional communications, you assume this energy and draw this to yourself in empathy.

LUANNE: Yes, I recognize that.

ELIAS: Yes. Not necessarily in fixing, but in an expression of empathy and [you] allow yourself, in that empathic sense, to also be partially experiencing with the other individual.

Now; at times this may be generated in almost an extreme, which is not a balance, and this may generate some confusion and conflict within you.

Now; this individual that you are creating this counterpart action with does not express in this manner. This individual focuses attention singularly and is not this type of interactive individual. This individual focuses attention upon self almost to extreme. Not that the attention upon self itself is extreme, but to the exclusion of other energies.

Although you create every expression of your reality, although you create every aspect of it, you are not occupying your dimension alone. You do interact with other individuals’ energy. You may project the image of them, but you ARE interactive with their energy.

Therefore, this individual focuses upon self in what may be viewed as almost extreme, for it is to the exclusion of allowance of interaction with other energies, which you MAY create. You may create buffers that become almost impenetrable.

Therefore, what you offer to this individual is an energy of balance in offering your experience, and what he offers to you is an expression of balance in the offering of his experience to you.

LUANNE: That’s very exciting! (Elias chuckles) Now, these arrangements and agreements and discussions, they occur in Regional Area 2? Is that when we communicate with each other and make these agreements or arrangements, the counterparts?

ELIAS: This is occurring simultaneous to what you are creating objectively in Regional Area 1, but yes.

LUANNE: I had another question along those lines, and I’m trying to formulate it. So these counterpart experiences appear as though they will be ongoing throughout all of us, but for me in assisting me to learn to lift the veils or free the veils?

ELIAS: Yes.

LUANNE: The other thing that I wanted to ask you about is, I’ve always been a very healthy person physically, very little illnesses, maybe a headache, maybe a good cold during the year, whatever, in what we call the past timeframes. But it seems to me since I’ve been learning this information that I am frequently creating annoying little physical illnesses, but of a frequency that’s uncommon for me. Now, is the reason I’m doing this for me to be noticing, or is it to give me practice in learning to discontinue the creations?

ELIAS: No. Yes, it is to be noticing, and yes, it is to be practicing, but not practicing in uncreating. Practicing...

LUANNE: To discontinue that creation? You say we create in the moment, every new moment we recreate what appears to be an ongoing infirmity or illness or whatever you want to say.

ELIAS: Correct...

LUANNE: So to discontinue that type of creation?

ELIAS: No.

LUANNE: Oh, I’m misunderstanding.

ELIAS: To allow yourself, in this noticing, to practice with not forcing energy...

LUANNE: Accepting what I’ve created.

ELIAS: ...and allowing the flow of energy and offering yourself the opportunity to view how that naturally discontinues the action without forcing energy and without creating tension, and also without creating judgments. It is a practice method, so to speak. For in your description, you are expressing that you are creating annoying physical affectingness. Therefore, yes, you are creating this to notice, not merely to notice that you are generating a physical action but to notice your automatic response to it, which is...

LUANNE: That I don’t like it.

ELIAS: ...annoying or irritating or bothersome, and as you create that automatic association, you immediately begin creating tension and forcing energy. Therefore, as you are noticing and you merely allow, you offer yourself the practice, and once you begin accomplishing what you are practicing with, you shall discontinue the action, for it shall be unnecessary.

LUANNE: Wonderful. (Elias chuckles) I have the feeling that I have been improving quote/unquote in the allowing, the accepting that I have whatever disease I would say, or whatever you want to say, but the judgment that I don’t like it, that it’s a inconvenience, that it’s an irritation is really an automatic response. But am I right in that, that I’ve been improving with the allowance part?

ELIAS: Yes.

LUANNE: Okay, great. That’s really super! (Elias chuckles)

Is there anything else that you’d like to tell me that will assist me in my journey?

ELIAS: Merely to be noticing, my friend. Pay attention to energy fields. Pay attention to your energy field and how it incorporates tension at times. This may be quite helpful to you in your expression.

LUANNE: I seem to have a lot of physical tension.

ELIAS: Correct.

LUANNE: I feel it in my jaw. I feel it in the back of my shoulders, my musculature.

ELIAS: Correct. You do create this quite often. In turning your attention, which shall also be a practicing action in allowing yourself to recognize where your attention is being directed, you may incorporate physical actions that offer you the practice of moving your attention.

As you incorporate thinking in extended time frameworks, you automatically also begin generating this tension, and you do not notice this tension until it is expressed in an extreme in which you are physically feeling the tension. But even in this, once noticing that you are generating this type of tension, move your attention to your physical body, rather than thinking. Occupy your attention with your physical muscles and bones, and merely allow yourself to intentionally relax, to be suggesting to your actual muscles and bones to be relaxing - but not merely commanding, but moving INTO the relaxation of it. This shall, in a manner of speaking, free your energy field, and in this, you shall also generate more of a physical feeling of energy.

LUANNE: That’s the other desire that I have, because I have noticed especially recently within this past year’s timeframe that I don’t feel the physical energy that I think I have felt in the past and that I’m very tense.

ELIAS: Correct, for you are creating fatigue through this tension.

LUANNE: Is there anything particular that is causing me to create this tension? Is there one specific area?

ELIAS: This is what I have identified to you.

LUANNE: This has to do with my relationships and my communications?

ELIAS: No, it is an automatic response to holding your attention intensely in thinking. (Luanne laughs) Analyzing and thinking, thinking, thinking! And as you are thinking, thinking, thinking, you are automatically tensing, tensing, tensing, and you are not even noticing.

LUANNE: When I’m reading the transcripts, I can’t even read an entire paragraph, so to speak, when I’m already thinking in my mind, well, how does this relate to me? How do I exhibit this? What can I do to... (Laughs)

ELIAS: Which is quite acceptable, my friend, but to generate this type of analyzation and thinking, thinking, thinking in excess is a different action. For in this, be remembering, thinking is not a communication. It is a mechanism to translate and interpret. Therefore you are not generating a communication to yourself.

LUANNE: I’m trying to figure something out.

ELIAS: Correct, and in this, the more you incorporate the tension, the more you constrict the mechanism of the thinking, for the less information you offer it. For your attention concentrates upon the mechanism of thinking and therefore is not being directed to avenues of information, and therefore the thinking mechanism is not being offered input and information to translate. (Chuckles)

TED: One small question about the scientific belief systems. I was presented yesterday with the theory that all physical material that we create in our camouflage is electromagnetic energy. This person that I was discussing with felt that consciousness was electromagnetic energy, and I disagreed with that. The consciousness is consciousness, and is not defined within our scientific community. It will probably never be defined.

ELIAS: Correct.

TED: So it’s not electromagnetic?

ELIAS: No. This may be associated with your physical dimension, but it is relative to this one physical dimension.

TED: The same as you spoke about mathematics.

ELIAS: Correct.

TED: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

LUANNE: Thank you, Elias.

ELIAS: You are very welcome.

LUANNE: I also value our relationship.

ELIAS: As do I. (Smiling)

LUANNE: Wonderful.

ELIAS: As always, I offer you my energy and encouragement, and extend my invitation to continue to interact with each other.

TED: Thank you very much, Elias, and we offer you our energy also.

ELIAS: Very well, my friends! (Ted and Luanne laugh) To you both, as always, in tremendous affection, au revoir.

BOTH: Au revoir.

Elias departs at 12:56 PM.

(1) This would be Robert, essence name Ben-adi, who participated in a group session a year previous which Ted and Luanne also participated in. ()

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